Do We Really Need A 92 MILLION DOLLAR PARADE?

[Agent Zero]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade-expected-to-cost-80-million-more-than-estimated.html

Trump's military parade is now estimated to cost $92 million – $80 million more than earlier estimate

President Donald Trump's military parade is estimated to cost $92 million, according to a U.S. defense official with firsthand knowledge of the assessment.
An earlier estimate pegged the cost at $12 million.
The parade is scheduled to take place in the nation's capital on Nov. 10 and will feature armored vehicles, aircraft flyovers and period uniforms.



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President Donald Trump's military parade this fall is shaping up to cost $80 million more than initially estimated.
The Department of Defense and its interagency partners have updated their perspective cost estimates for the parade, according to a U.S. defense official with firsthand knowledge of the assessment. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The parade, slated for Nov. 10, is estimated to cost $92 million, the official said. The figure consists of $50 million from the Pentagon and $42 million from interagency partners such as the Department of Homeland Security. An initial estimate last month (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/07/18/initial-cost-for-trump-military-parade-comes-in-at-12-million-dod-says/) pegged the prospective cost for the parade at $12 million.

A Pentagon spokesman said in an email to CNBC that the Defense Department expects to make an announcement soon, but he would not comment further. The White House referred questions to the Defense Department.
The $92 million cost estimate includes security, transportation of parade assets, aircraft, as well as temporary duty for troops. The official also noted that while the size and scope of the military parade can still shift, the plans currently include approximately eight tanks, as well as other armored vehicles, including Bradleys, Strykers and M113s.

[Agent Zero]

I believe that number is 666% higher than originally estimated.

hmmm....

[Brat]

Yes we do!!!!!!!!!!

[Common]

Money far better spent on a Patriotic Parade than spending it on illegal immigrant pedophilles and various other criminal illegals that cost us billions.

[waltky]

Granny wantin' to know...

... if dey gonna be sellin' cotton candy?

She an possum likes cotton candy.

[Agent Zero]

Money far better spent on a Patriotic Parade than spending it on illegal immigrant pedophilles and various other criminal illegals that cost us billions.
Will there be Catholic priests marching?

Roy Moore?

Any of these folks?













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[Ethereal]

An extravagance meant to stroke Trump's ego and inflame mindless nationalism.

His cultists will love it.

[Agent Zero]

An extravagance meant to stroke Trump's ego and inflame mindless nationalism.

His cultists will love it.

Maybe the alt righties didn't attend last weeks get together to save up money to line the streets of the parade white in the finest whitest gowns.

[Chloe]

No, it's a completely unnecessary event. That money would be better served helping Americans in need. Americans such as homeless, struggling, and sick veterans.

[Crepitus]

Money far better spent on a Patriotic Parade than spending it on illegal immigrant pedophilles and various other criminal illegals that cost us billions.

Lol, can you name some illegal immigrant pedophiles for me?

I bet I can name far more conservative ones.

[Agent Zero]

Lol, can you name some illegal immigrant pedophiles for me?

I bet I can name far more conservative ones.
I already did.

lots of them!

[Crepitus]

Cancelled for this year at least.

https://apnews.com/53566c92681c4330bafbb05298f280c6/Pentagon-delays-Trump's-veterans-parade-until-at-least-2019

[Tahuyaman]

Will there be Catholic priests marching?



Are you going to ask for a break from bussing tables so you can watch the parade?

[Tahuyaman]

No, it's a completely unnecessary event. That money would be better served helping Americans in need. Americans such as homeless, struggling, and sick veterans.


Everything doesn't come to a complete halt because of a parade.

[Chloe]

Everything doesn't come to a complete halt because of a parade.

I didn't say it did.

[Tahuyaman]

Lol, can you name some illegal immigrant pedophiles for me?

I bet I can name far more conservative ones.

Are you sure that you want to start comparing which side has the most perverts?

[Tahuyaman]

I didn't say it did.


So then what was your point? Holding a parade takes away from helping the homeless?

How many homeless people have you invited into your home?

[Ethereal]

I didn't say it did.

You have to keep in mind that Tahu doesn't care about what you actually said. All he cares about is what he imagined you said.

[Tahuyaman]

You have to keep in mind that Tahu doesn't care about what you actually said. All he cares about is what he imagined you said.

Let her try to explain her own comments.

[Ethereal]

Let her try to explain her own comments.
As if she needs to explain herself to the likes of you...

[Chloe]

So then what was your point? Holding a parade takes away from helping the homeless?

How many homeless people have you invited into your home?
Re-read what I wrote.

[Tahuyaman]

Re-read what I wrote.


How many homeless people have you invited into your home?

[Tahuyaman]

As if she needs to explain herself to the likes of you...

You seem to follow me around humping my leg, so.....

[Chloe]

How many homeless people have you invited into your home?
I've invited no homeless and struggling veterans into my home as of today. Do you think 90 million dollars would be better served going towards helping homeless and struggling veterans or to a military parade?

[Ethereal]

You seem to follow me around humping my leg, so.....

You seem to attribute far more importance to yourself than is warranted.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm not a big fan of these parades, but I also don't look at it as a sign that Trump is looking to insert himself as a military dictator type or he's trying to stroke his ego.


Trump seems to respect members of the military and sees a need to publicly honor them. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Go fishing or something.

[Tahuyaman]

You seem to attribute far more importance to yourself than is warranted.


That would be funny if it wasn't so ironic.

[Captdon]

How many homeless people have you invited into your home?

Umm, that's not the point. It's how much money can we waste on programs that don't work? You have to know the lingo.

[Common Sense]

Seems like a huge waste of money.

I'm not sure what purpose it serves.

[Tahuyaman]

I've invited no homeless and struggling veterans into my home as of today. Do you think 90 million dollars would be better served going towards helping homeless and struggling veterans or to a military parade?


We already spend billions of dollars helping struggling vets and homeless people. The problem is that there is a huge wasteful and inefficient bureaucracy getting in the way.

You won't go out of your way or endure any inconvenience in your own life to help a vet or homeless person, so.....

[Tahuyaman]

Seems like a huge waste of money.

I'm not sure what purpose it serves.

It's probably meant to honor people and boost morale.

[Ethereal]

That would be funny if it wasn't so ironic.
You've used the mention feature to get my attention ten times in the past eight months and sent me at least two unsolicited private messages, yet you accuse me of following you around and humping your leg?

Talk about irony.

[Peter1469]

An extravagance meant to stroke Trump's ego and inflame mindless nationalism.

His cultists will love it.
I can't believe that number. And I still don't support the parade.

[Captdon]

I've invited no homeless and struggling veterans into my home as of today. Do you think 90 million dollars would be better served going towards helping homeless and struggling veterans or to a military parade?

Sure. I also think the money going to welfare recipients could go a long way towards helping the homeless and vets. I think not allowing able-bodied people to get Medicaid would be a help.

You agree?

[Captdon]

You seem to attribute far more importance to yourself than is warranted.

Funny.

[Chloe]

We already spend billions of dollars helping struggling vets and homeless people. The problem is that there is a huge wasteful and inefficient bureaucracy getting in the way.

You won't go out of your way or endure any inconvenience in your own life to help a vet or homeless person, so.....
What exactly would I do with or for homeless veterans in my living room? If we are already spending billions and its not working then perhaps the money shouldn't be spent at all until spending is under better control. Would you agree with that? I'm assuming you are against excessive government spending as a conservative?

[Common Sense]

I'm not a big fan of these parades, but I also don't look at it as a sign that Trump is looking to insert himself as a military dictator type or he's trying to stroke his ego.


Trump seems to respect members of the military and sees a need to publicly honor them. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Go fishing or something.

I agree that it's silly to imply that it means Trump is trying to be a like dictator.

Trumps motivation is probably that he thinks it would be cool.

I think its a bit hypocritical though. Conservatives and Trump complain about wasteful spending, yet often support it themselves.

[Tahuyaman]

Umm, that's not the point. It's how much money can we waste on programs that don't work? You have to know the lingo.


The people who scream the loudest about helping the homeless never lift a finger or endure any inconvenience themselves. They just talk and demand someone else takes care of the problem. They care, so they think their caring makes them superior.

[Chloe]

Sure. I also think the money going to welfare recipients could go a long way towards helping the homeless and vets. I think not allowing able-bodied people to get Medicaid would be a help.

You agree?
I'm not sure why medicaid has to do with this. I'm just saying that if we are to spend 90 million dollars on the military then perhaps it should go towards helping veterans and not a military parade.

[Peter1469]

I'm not sure why medicaid has to do with this. I'm just saying that if we are to spend 90 million dollars on the military then perhaps it should go towards helping veterans and not a military parade.

Lets not spend the money on anything. It would slightly help our out of control deficit.

[Common Sense]

It's probably meant to honor people and boost morale.

It's pageantry. I don't know that it would boost morale, but I get the point.

I think the military and service members would be honoured more effectively by spending that money on homeless vets and those suffering from the physical and mental scars of their services.

[Chloe]

The people who scream the loudest about helping the homeless never lift a finger or endure any inconvenience themselves. They just talk and demand someone else takes care of the problem. They care, so they think their caring makes them superior.
You are talking about me I know. All I said was that the money would be better served going towards helping homeless veterans instead of a parade. Why you felt it necessary to try and twist my words and embarrass me for that is something only you would know.

[Tahuyaman]

What exactly would I do with or for homeless veterans in my living room? If we are already spending billions and its not working then perhaps the money shouldn't be spent at all until spending is under better control. Would you agree with that? I'm assuming you are against excessive government spending as a conservative?

Provide him or her with a hot meal. Maybe give them some chores to do.

Maybe be its time for you to look for ways you can make a difference instead of always demanding that others bear the burden. You care more about a field mouse than you do a human being.

[Tahuyaman]

You are talking about me I know. All I said was that the money would be better served going towards helping homeless veterans instead of a parade. Why you felt it necessary to try and twist my words and embarrass me for that is something only you would know.

We already spend billions and billion. How many more do we need to spend? Another five, ten or twenty billion?

[Tahuyaman]

You've used the mention feature to get my attention ten times in the past eight months and sent me at least two unsolicited private messages, yet you accuse me of following you around and humping your leg?

Talk about irony.

This is from the guy who created a thread dedicated to me. One which didn't get the results he was hoping for too.

[Tahuyaman]

It's pageantry. I don't know that it would boost morale, but I get the point.

I think the military and service members would be honoured more effectively by spending that money on homeless vets and those suffering from the physical and mental scars of their services.

Many people would have their morale boosted by being honored in public.


This parade would not be taking anything away from the wasteful, redundant and inefficient programs designed to help homeless vets and such. Those programs are more designed to create jobs for people other than the homeless vets.

[Chloe]

Provide him or her with a hot meal. Maybe give them some chores to do.

Maybe be its time for you to look for ways you can make a difference instead of always demanding that others bear the burden. You care more about a field mouse than you do a human being.
I'm not demanding anything. I literally simply just said that the money would be better served going towards veterans in some way instead of a parade. Do you care more about supporting Trump's parade than you do homeless veterans? (See how annoying it is to have your words twisted like a jerk?).

[Common Sense]

Provide him or her with a hot meal. Maybe give them some chores to do.

Maybe be its time for you to look for ways you can make a difference instead of always demanding that others bear the burden. You care more about a field mouse than you do a human being.

That accusation is silly. It's your assumption presented as fact.

As to the homeless, I agree that people can do things to help them like you suggest, however that doesn't fix the problem, it only helps them temporarily. Individuals don't have the resources to reduce homelessness that local, state and federal governments do.

Advocating that tax money is spent on it doesn't mean that people don't help, nor does it mean people feel superior to you. It just means that's the solution they support.

[Tahuyaman]

You are talking about me I know. All I said was that the money would be better served going towards helping homeless veterans instead of a parade. Why you felt it necessary to try and twist my words and embarrass me for that is something only you would know.


I asked you a simple question. If it embarrassed you, that's not on me.

[Common Sense]

We already spend billions and billion. How many more do we need to spend? Another five, ten or twenty billion?
I doubt billions and billions has been spent on the current 40,000+ homeless veterans in the US.

[Tahuyaman]

That accusation is silly. It's your assumption presented as fact.

As to the homeless, I agree that people can do things to help them like you suggest, however that doesn't fix the problem, it only helps them temporarily. Individuals don't have the resources to reduce homelessness that local, state and federal governments do.

Advocating that tax money is spent on it doesn't mean that people don't help, nor does it mean people feel superior to you. It just means that's the solution they support.


How was as my question directed to her an assumption presented as fact or an accusation?


My point is that there are millions of liberal elitists out there who never go out of their way or lift a finger to help the needy. They provide nothing but lip service then demand government takes care of everything.

They are both sanctimonious and pompous.

[Ethereal]

Maybe be its time for you to look for ways you can make a difference instead of always demanding that others bear the burden.
Maybe Trump should pay for this military parade with his own money instead of demanding that taxpayers bear the burden.

[Tahuyaman]

I doubt billions and billions has been spent on the current 40,000+ homeless veterans in the US.

Why would you doubt that? That's inexplicable.

[Ethereal]

This is from the guy who created a thread dedicated to me. One which didn't get the results he was hoping for too.
What's one thread compared to ten mentions and two unsolicited private messages? Face it, you're obsessed with me.

[Tahuyaman]

Maybe Trump should pay for this military parade with his own money instead of demanding that taxpayers bear the burden.

I've said that I'm not a fan of these things. I'm just finding the outrage by the left and the blame America first types to be quite humorous.

[Tahuyaman]

What's one thread compared to ten mentions and two unsolicited private messages? Face it, you're obsessed with me.

Yet I've never created a thread dedicated you you.

[Chloe]

How was as my question directed to her an assumption presented as fact or an accusation?


My point is that there are millions of liberal elitists out there who never go out of their way or lift a finger to help the needy. They provide nothing but lip service then demand government takes care of everything.

They are both sanctimonious and pompous.

I think it's very telling how you can take a pretty basic statement from me just saying that if this money is meant for the military then it should go towards helping veterans instead of a military parade and then somehow make those words out to be elitist, sanctimonious and pompous. I know you don't like me but you don't have to literally disagree with everything I say.

[Ethereal]

I've said that I'm not a fan of these things. I'm just finding the outrage by the left and the blame America first types to be quite humorous.

Trump is trying to spend millions of tax dollars on an extravagance, but you're more concerned with sticking it to people than you are with preventing the waste of tax money.

[Ethereal]

Yet I've never created a thread dedicated you you.
I didn't "dedicate" anything to you. Once again, you wildly exaggerate your own importance.

The fact that you've been using the mention feature to call me out ten times over the past eight months, to say nothing of your weird, unsolicited private messages to me, shows quite clearly that you are obsessed with me.

[Common Sense]

How was as my question directed to her an assumption presented as fact or an accusation?


My point is that there are millions of liberal elitists out there who never go out of their way or lift a finger to help the needy. They provide nothing but lip service then demand government takes care of everything.

They are both sanctimonious and pompous.
The accusation that she cares more for a mouse than a person. That was the accusation I found silly. It was also a bit sanctimonious too.

Some issues and problems require more than just individual gestures. Drunk driving is better addressed by law enforcement than me going down to bars looking for drunk people with car keys.

...but I do concede that some liberals who ignore the homeless guy are hypocrites. People should do more on their own but rarely do.

[Tahuyaman]

The accusation that she cares more for a mouse than a person. That was the accusation I found silly...

It’s a fact. She’ll go out of her way to protect or help a rodent, but not a human being in need.

I know that I confused you when I used the word “sanctimonious”. Before you use it, you should consult a dictionary.

[Ethereal]

It’s a fact. She’ll go out of her way to protect or help a rodent, but not a human being in need.

Your uninformed, baseless opinion is not even close to a fact.

[Tahuyaman]

Some issues and problems require more than just individual gestures. Drunk driving is better addressed by law enforcement than me going down to bars looking for drunk people with car keys. .

The DUI thing was an odd leap.

[Tahuyaman]

I didn't "dedicate" anything to you. Once again, you wildly exaggerate your own importance.

The fact that you've been using the mention feature to call me out ten times over the past eight months, to say nothing of your weird, unsolicited private messages to me, shows quite clearly that you are obsessed with me.
Are you denying that you created a thread dedicated to your obsession with me?

I called you out ten times over the last 200+ days? Wow.

[Ethereal]

The DUI thing was an odd leap.
No, it was a fairly reasonable analogy that managed to go over your rather big head.

[Chloe]

It’s a fact. She’ll go out of her way to protect or help a rodent, but not a human being in need.

I know that I confused you when I used the word “sanctimonious”. Before you use it, you should consult a dictionary.

Oh my gosh what an asshole you are. I wish you'd go back to my first comment on this thread and then follow your responses after that. You have gone out of your way tonight to treat me like crap and to find little ways to put me down, and it's all because you don't agree with my intent. Have a good night.

[Common Sense]

It’s a fact. She’ll go out of her way to protect or help a rodent, but not a human being in need.

I know that I confused you when I used the word “sanctimonious”. Before you use it, you should consult a dictionary.

Again, you're passing off your opinion and assumptions as facts.

You are indeed being sanctimonius. You're accusing people of being immoral or disingenuous and implying you're not.

[Tahuyaman]

Trump is trying to spend millions of tax dollars on an extravagance, but you're more concerned with sticking it to people than you are with preventing the waste of tax money.

Who am I interested in “sticking it to” and how am I trying to do that?

[Common Sense]

The DUI thing was an odd leap.

Why? It's just a comparison.

[Ethereal]

Are you denying that you created a thread dedicated to your obsession with me?
I made a thread about the similarity between your behavior and Cigar's because you kept sending me weird private messages and using the mention feature to get my attention. And in true narcissistic fashion, you bizarrely interpret this as me being obsessed with you instead of the other way around. You have to know on some level just how much of a loathsome creature you are. There is no way you can be 100% oblivious to your severe character flaws, can you?

[Tahuyaman]

Liberals make me laugh.

Im sure that outrages them. They don’t like it when people laugh.

[Common Sense]

Oh my gosh what an asshole you are. I wish you'd go back to my first comment on this thread and then follow your responses after that. You have gone out of your way tonight to treat me like crap and to find little ways to put me down, and it's all because you don't agree with my intent. Have a good night.
It seems he would rather make it personal than discuss the issue.

[gamewell45]

Personally speaking, I'd much rather see the money spent on fixing up the infrastructure in the country as opposed to spending it on a parade, which most people can witness on either Memorial Day or perhaps July 4th.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm not a big fan of these parades, but I also don't look at it as a sign that Trump is looking to insert himself as a military dictator type or he's trying to stroke his ego.


Trump seems to respect members of the military and sees a need to publicly honor them. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Go fishing or something.
Bump

[Ethereal]

Oh my gosh what an $#@! you are. I wish you'd go back to my first comment on this thread and then follow your responses after that. You have gone out of your way tonight to treat me like crap and to find little ways to put me down, and it's all because you don't agree with my intent. Have a good night.

Once again, one of the forum's most loathsome members manages to drive away one of the forum's most liked members.

Why do the MODS continue to tolerate Tahu's incessant trolling of other members?

[Ethereal]

Who am I interested in “sticking it to” and how am I trying to do that?

Your entire presence in this thread has been dedicated to attacking Chloe for things she never said. You are a damn scoundrel.

[Tahuyaman]

I made a thread about the similarity between your behavior and Cigar's because you kept sending me weird private messages and using the mention feature to get my attention. And in true narcissistic fashion, you bizarrely interpret this as me being obsessed with you instead of the other way around. You have to know on some level just how much of a loathsome creature you are. There is no way you can be 100% oblivious to your severe character flaws, can you?

I’ve never created a thread dedicated to you in any way, but you seem to think I’m obsessed with you. Your evidence for that is that I’ve called you out ten times in the last 240 days.


Okeedokee....

[Common Sense]

Liberals make me laugh.

Im sure that outrages them. They don’t like it when people laugh.

Yeah, liberals don't laugh. That sounds believable.

Personally, when I see people laugh, I get so super angry that I have to read some Karl Marx to calm me down. That or some light satan worship.

[Tahuyaman]

Why? It's just a comparison.
An odd comparison.

[Ethereal]

It seems he would rather make it personal than discuss the issue.

Seems?

His penchant for making things personal and misrepresenting other posters is rather obvious at this point.

He's been posting 50 times a day for over three years and virtually every post is some kind of snide, contemptuous remark meant to provoke other posters.

He is a loathsome little troll and nothing more. It's time we just came out and said it.

[Tahuyaman]

Yeah, liberals don't laugh. That sounds believable.

Personally, when I see people laugh, I get so super angry that I have to read some Karl Marx to calm me down. That or some light satan worship.

I believe that.

You probably think laughing contributes to global warming.

[Common Sense]

An odd comparison.

Not really.

[Tahuyaman]

Oh my gosh what an $#@! you are. I wish you'd go back to my first comment on this thread and then follow your responses after that. You have gone out of your way tonight to treat me like crap and to find little ways to put me down, and it's all because you don't agree with my intent. Have a good night.
Oh boy.....

[Ethereal]

I’ve never created a thread dedicated to you in any way, but you seem to think I’m obsessed with you. Your evidence for that is that I’ve called you out ten times in the last 240 days.


Okeedokee....
I made a thread about you being a cretinous little weirdo. If you consider that a "dedication", then you're even more delusional than I thought.

[Tahuyaman]

No, it was a fairly reasonable analogy that managed to go over your rather big head.

I'm not surprised that you thought it was aporopriate.

[Common Sense]

I believe that.

You probably think laughing contributes to global warming.

It does. Every time a conservative laughs, a polar bear drowns.

The worst part is, all the great comedians are conservatives. The polar bears don't stand a chance.

[Tahuyaman]

I made a thread about you being a cretinous little weirdo. If you consider that a "dedication", then you're even more delusional than I thought.


Oh oh. The Internet tough guy persona is starting to manifest itself. O

[Ethereal]

I'm not surprised that you thought it was aporopriate.

I'm not surprised you failed to comprehend a simple analogy.

[Tahuyaman]

It does. Every time a conservative laughs, a polar bear drowns.

The worst part is, all the great comedians are conservatives. The polar bears don't stand a chance.


I think you really believe that.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm not surprised you failed to comprehend a simple analogy.
A dumb analogy.

[Common Sense]

Oh boy.....
Chloe was correct. You went out of your way to attack her and make the argument personal. Ironically something you condemn others for doing.

[Tahuyaman]

Ethereal will need to disappear for a few days because his head is in danger of exploding.

[Ethereal]

Oh oh. The Internet tough guy persona is starting to manifest itself. O

Yeah, you're out of your mind. A complete wacko with no life at all.

[Ethereal]

A dumb analogy.

No, just a dumb person who failed to comprehend the analogy.

[Common Sense]

I think you really believe that.

Then you are experiencing cognitive dissonance.

Why so ornery tonight? You ok?

[Tahuyaman]

Chloe was correct. You went out of your way to attack her and make the argument personal. Ironically something you condemn others for doing.
I said she cares more for a mouse than she does a needy human being. That’s not a personal attack. That’s an accurate observation.

[Tahuyaman]

I think you really believe that.


Then you are experiencing cognitive dissonance.

Why so ornery tonight? You ok?

How did you translate that to being ornery?

[Tahuyaman]

No, just a dumb person who failed to comprehend the analogy.


Keep repeating that to yourself.

[Ethereal]

Ethereal will need to disappear for a few days because his head is in danger of exploding.

Yeah, I admit I have a life outside of this forum. You should try it sometime.

[Ethereal]

I said she cares more for a mouse than she does a needy human being. That’s not a personal attack. That’s an accurate observation.
No, it's a pile of horse shit, the kind that you are known for spewing regularly.

[Tahuyaman]

Yeah, I admit I have a life outside of this forum. You should try it sometime.Your life right now seems to be consumed with biting my ankles.

[Ethereal]

Keep repeating that to yourself.

You failed to understand a simple analogy. And you're the only one who doesn't seem to realize it.

[Tahuyaman]

No, it's a pile of horse shit, the kind that you are known for spewing regularly.
I do not nor have ever spewed “horse shit”.

[Ethereal]

Your life right now seems to be consumed with biting my ankles.
Why do you always accuse others of the things you're most guilty of?

[Tahuyaman]

You failed to understand a simple analogy. And you're the only one who doesn't seem to realize it.


You’re repeating yourself.

[Common Sense]

I said she cares more for a mouse than she does a needy human being. That’s not a personal attack. That’s an accurate observation.
It's a personal accusation and attack. It's also based on your biased opinion of her values based on posts on an Internet forum. You have no actual way of knowing what she truly thinks.

It's no more accurate than me claiming you care more about Trump than your own dignity and integrity.

[Tahuyaman]

Why do you always accuse others of the things you're most guilty of?
Like what?

[Ethereal]

I do not nor have ever spewed “horse $#@!”.

Everything that comes out of your big, fat mouth is 100%, steaming horse shit. I bet you were never really in the infantry either. Probably just an admin clerk who was attached to an infantry battalion.

[Common Sense]

Why do you always accuse others of the things you're most guilty of?
Well there's the fucking irony of it all...

[Ethereal]

You’re repeating yourself.
See, there you go again, accusing someone else of the very thing you're guilty of.

[Tahuyaman]

It's a personal accusation and attack. It's also based on your biased opinion of her values based on posts on an Internet forum. You have no actual way of knowing what she truly thinks.

It's no more accurate than me claiming you care more about Trump than your own dignity and integrity.

she expresses her thought here. Those thoughts are generally about how animal and or insect life is more valuable than human life.

[Tahuyaman]

See, there you go again, accusing someone else of the very thing you're guilty of.

Lol

[Common Sense]

she expresses her thought here. Those thoughts are generally about how animal and or insect life is more valuable than human life.
That's your interpretation. That's not something she's ever claimed.

[Tahuyaman]

See, there you go again, accusing someone else of the very thing you're guilty of.
You might need a drink to calm down a bit.

[Ethereal]

Like what?

Like everything you've ever accused another poster of being or doing.

You are guilty of it all.

Just as the most obvious example, you spent months biting at my ankles, sending me messages, calling me out using the mention feature, constantly trying to get my attention, and now you're accusing me of the very thing that you were guilty of.

It's simply amazing how oblivious you are to reality. You inhabit a narcissistic fantasy world.

[Tahuyaman]

That's your interpretation. That's not something she's ever claimed.
Actually I believe she has said that the earth would be better off in human life ceased to exist.

[Ethereal]

Well there's the $#@!ing irony of it all...
Projection is a common trait of narcissists.

[Ethereal]

Lol
You're the king of repeating yourself. 90% of what you post is nothing more than a mindless repetition of something you already said.

[Peter1469]

It does. Every time a conservative laughs, a polar bear drowns.

The worst part is, all the great comedians are conservatives. The polar bears don't stand a chance.

Do we have any real evidence about polar bears drowning?

[Ethereal]

You might need a drink to calm down a bit.

When I see good members being driven away by cretins, I get upset. It's a perfectly natural response to seeing the forum destroyed by the biggest troll in forum history. You're worse than Cigar and Bethere combined.

[Agent Zero]

Cancelled for this year at least.

https://apnews.com/53566c92681c4330bafbb05298f280c6.

/Pentagon-delays-Trump's-veterans-parade-until-at-least-2019 (https://apnews.com/53566c92681c4330bafbb05298f280c6/Pentagon-delays-Trump's-veterans-parade-until-at-least-2019)
Poor Trump.

Omarosa and now his precious parade cancelled.

He should crack soon...

[Tahuyaman]

Like everything you've ever accused another poster of being or doing.

You are guilty of it all.

Just as the most obvious example, you spent months biting at my ankles, sending me messages, calling me out using the mention feature, constantly trying to get my attention, and now you're accusing me of the very thing that you were guilty of.

It's simply amazing how oblivious you are to reality. You inhabit a narcissistic fantasy world.


You're the king of repeating yourself. 90% of what you post is nothing more than a mindless repetition of something you already said.


When I see good members being driven away by cretins, I get upset. It's a perfectly natural response to seeing the forum destroyed by the biggest troll in forum history. You're worse than Cigar and Bethere combined.
No. You’re not at all obsessed with me.

[Tahuyaman]

Do we have any real evidence about polar bears drowning?
There’s photo shopped evidence.

[Common Sense]

Do we have any real evidence about polar bears drowning?
The science is pretty solid. Laughing causes polar bear drowning.

[Agent Zero]

I hear the military moved the parade to next year because Trump will be gone.

[Peter1469]

The science is pretty solid. Laughing causes polar bear drowning.

The "definitive" photo was found to not represent a drowning polar bear. They can swim long distances.

[Peter1469]

I hear the military moved the parade to next year because Trump will be gone.

Liar.

[Brat]

I hear the military moved the parade to next year because Trump will be gone.

You dreamer, you. :pointlaugh:

[Ethereal]

No. You’re not at all obsessed with me.
You're projecting, as usual.

[Tahuyaman]

You're projecting, as usual.
You’re entitled to your opinion.

[Tahuyaman]

I hear the military moved the parade to next year because Trump will be gone.


You dreamer, you. :pointlaugh:


The liberal crowd thought Trump wouldn’t make it past six months in office. It’s driving them crazy that they can’t force him out.

[Tahuyaman]

You're the king of repeating yourself. 90% of what you post is nothing more than a mindless repetition of something you already said.
You’re entitled to your opinions.

[Tahuyaman]

The science is pretty solid. Laughing causes polar bear drowning.


Seriously, I’m waiting for a time where extreme environmentalists claim that laughter contributes to global warming. Anything which is fun and motivates laughter needs to be banned.

[Safety]

Lol, can you name some illegal immigrant pedophiles for me?

I bet I can name far more conservative ones.

It was the first thing to pop in his Trumpist cult mind. Doesn’t matter if it makes any sense, just say something pertaining to the rwnj talking points and the rest of the cultists will thank and like.

[Safety]

When I see good members being driven away by cretins, I get upset. It's a perfectly natural response to seeing the forum destroyed by the biggest troll in forum history. You're worse than Cigar and Bethere combined.

Damn, damn, damn.

Damn.

[Common Sense]

Seriously, I’m waiting for a time where extreme environmentalists claim that laughter contributes to global warming. Anything which is fun and motivates laughter needs to be banned.
I wouldn't hold your breath. ;)

Do you honestly think liberal people don't laugh or have a sense of humour? That's gotta be one of the nuttiest things I've read here. Most comedians are liberals. Most comedies are made by and for liberals. Then there's the fact that most humans like to laugh.

Plus I'm funny as shit...

[Beevee]

Money far better spent on a Patriotic Parade than spending it on illegal immigrant pedophilles and various other criminal illegals that cost us billions.

It's even better to transfer the allocated $92m funds, following the cancellation of the parade, to accounts in the Cayman Islands, controlled by the Trump dynasty.

[Hoosier8]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade-expected-to-cost-80-million-more-than-estimated.html

Trump's military parade is now estimated to cost $92 million – $80 million more than earlier estimate


President Donald Trump's military parade is estimated to cost $92 million, according to a U.S. defense official with firsthand knowledge of the assessment.
An earlier estimate pegged the cost at $12 million.
The parade is scheduled to take place in the nation's capital on Nov. 10 and will feature armored vehicles, aircraft flyovers and period uniforms.


Amanda Macias (https://www.cnbc.com/amanda-macias/) | @amanda_m_macias (https://twitter.com/amanda_m_macias)
Published 6 Hours Ago Updated 3 Hours AgoCNBC.com























































https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/08/16/105401295-5ED4-BL-0816MilitaryParade.600x337.jpg?v=1534442374 (https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade.html)President Trump’s military parade is now estimated to cost $92 million 3 Hours Ago | 01:28
(https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade.html)

President Donald Trump's military parade this fall is shaping up to cost $80 million more than initially estimated.
The Department of Defense and its interagency partners have updated their perspective cost estimates for the parade, according to a U.S. defense official with firsthand knowledge of the assessment. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The parade, slated for Nov. 10, is estimated to cost $92 million, the official said. The figure consists of $50 million from the Pentagon and $42 million from interagency partners such as the Department of Homeland Security. An initial estimate last month (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/07/18/initial-cost-for-trump-military-parade-comes-in-at-12-million-dod-says/) pegged the prospective cost for the parade at $12 million.

A Pentagon spokesman said in an email to CNBC that the Defense Department expects to make an announcement soon, but he would not comment further. The White House referred questions to the Defense Department.
The $92 million cost estimate includes security, transportation of parade assets, aircraft, as well as temporary duty for troops. The official also noted that while the size and scope of the military parade can still shift, the plans currently include approximately eight tanks, as well as other armored vehicles, including Bradleys, Strykers and M113s.




Like Mattis said, “Whoever told you that number is smoking something that isn’t illegal in my state but probably is in yours.”

[MMC]

Like Mattis said, “Whoever told you that number is smoking something that isn’t illegal in my state but probably is in yours.”

Yeah, and now Mattis knows there is a leaker in the DOD.

[Hoosier8]

Yeah, and now Mattis knows there is a leaker in the DOD.
Doubt anyone in the DOD came up with that number. Probably some reporter figuring out how much it would cost to use a tank as an Uber vehicle.

[MMC]

Doubt anyone in the DOD came up with that number. Probably some reporter figuring out how much it would cost to use a tank as an Uber vehicle.

Cmon now.....If the FBI, CIA, and NSA can say whatever. Demos can say whatever. So to a US Defense Official with firsthand knowledge. :grin:

[Captdon]

I loved the way Mattis said anyone who believe that figure is smoking something. He said the figure of 12 million is the only one he's seen and then tries to stifle a laugh.

[Captdon]

I didn't "dedicate" anything to you. Once again, you wildly exaggerate your own importance.

The fact that you've been using the mention feature to call me out ten times over the past eight months, to say nothing of your weird, unsolicited private messages to me, shows quite clearly that you are obsessed with me.

You created a thread asking if he was the white cigar.

[Tahuyaman]

I wouldn't hold your breath. ;)

Do you honestly think liberal people don't laugh or have a sense of humour? That's gotta be one of the nuttiest things I've read here. Most comedians are liberals. Most comedies are made by and for liberals. Then there's the fact that most humans like to laugh.

Plus I'm funny as $#@!...


Liberals do not have a sense of humor in they can't laugh at themselves. Most modern comedians may indeed be liberal. They also aren't funny any more. They generally just stand up and scream obscene insults directed at people they dislike. That's not funny.


If you are ever funny, it's by accident.

[Tahuyaman]

You created a thread asking if he was the white cigar.

And that thread didn't turn out the way he had hoped it would.

[Captdon]

It's even better to transfer the allocated $92m funds, following the cancellation of the parade, to accounts in the Cayman Islands, controlled by the Trump dynasty.

It's 12 million. Pay attention.

[Captdon]

I hear the military moved the parade to next year because Trump will be gone.

Dream on.

[Beevee]

It's 12 million. Pay attention.

Oh! Clearly not enough to bother about then. $12m wouldn't feed the Trump clan for a week. Never mind. Onto the next embezellment of taxpayers money.

[Crepitus]

Poor Trump.

Omarosa and now his precious parade cancelled.

He should crack soon...

He was cracked before he decided to run the first time.

[Tahuyaman]

Damn, damn, damn.

Damn.

Brilliant response.

[Tahuyaman]

He was cracked before he decided to run the first time.



The first time?

[Hoosier8]

He was cracked before he decided to run the first time.

Must be why dems were urging him to run.

[Brat]

I wouldn't hold your breath. ;)

Do you honestly think liberal people don't laugh or have a sense of humour? That's gotta be one of the nuttiest things I've read here. Most comedians are liberals. Most comedies are made by and for liberals. Then there's the fact that most humans like to laugh.

Plus I'm funny as shit...

Except that liberal comedians aren't funny anymore; they are just spiteful nasty Trump-bashers.


Sorry, Tahuyaman; I didn't see your post saying the exact same thing until after I posted.

[Tahuyaman]

Except that liberal comedians aren't funny anymore; they are just spiteful nasty Trump-bashers.

Today, just being insulting, foul and obscene is supposed to be funny.

[Tahuyaman]

Except that liberal comedians aren't funny anymore; they are just spiteful nasty Trump-bashers.


Sorry, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365); I didn't see your post saying the exact same thing until after I posted.

No need to apologize.

[IMPress Polly]

Much of this thread (at least for Tahuyaman's part) has been dedicated to some pretty absurd propositions. It's ridiculous to suggest that each individual with a place to live take in boarders to eliminate homelessness. That's not only a highly disruptive solution (most homeless people don't want to feel like a burden to others), it's not even a viable one, as many more middle class households belong to that station in life only marginally and cannot afford to provide for more people than they already are. And even if they all could, do you really think that being a boarder is what homeless people want anyway? No, what people really want is a place of their own! Not necessarily always a place that they have exclusive ownership of, but certainly a space that is reasonably private, wherein actual residency is not shared with others. That somehow Tahuyaman apparently does not realize any of this is a reflection of just how far intellectually divorced he is from life under such conditions as homelessness and poverty, or even an ordinary middle class existence for that matter.

The fact is that homelessness is a problem of a scale that requires societal action through collective investment, not one that private individuals acting separately can solve on their own.

[Brat]

societal action through collective investment

So, how much MORE collective investment do they need? Billions? Trillions? Is there no limit?

[Crepitus]

The first time?

He's been trying since the late 80s. I think the first real run was as a reform candidate in 2000.

He got something like 9000 votes total. Lol.

But he probably declared it a "great victory".

[Tahuyaman]

He's been trying since the late 80s. I think the first real run was as a reform candidate in 2000.

He got something like 9000 votes total. Lol.

But he probably declared it a "great victory".
If he got 9,000 votes, that’s 8,999 more than you could get.

[Tahuyaman]

So, how much MORE collective investment do they need? Billions? Trillions? Is there no limit?
What’s “collective investment”? Another way to describe confiscatory taxation?

[Tahuyaman]

Much of this thread (at least for Tahuyaman's part) has been dedicated to some pretty absurd propositions....Such as?

[Tahuyaman]

Sometimes I have some major labor intensive chores to be accomplished on my property. I have occasionally stopped and told the guy holding a sign which says “will work for food” and told him that I’ve got some work for him and I’ll feed him and pay him too. Every time, they’ve come up with some lame excuse to avoid the work part.

[Peter1469]

Doubt anyone in the DOD came up with that number. Probably some reporter figuring out how much it would cost to use a tank as an Uber vehicle.

The DC government came up with this number. Anyone who believes that is the true cost for a military parade is stupid as a pile of shit. That has already cooled off.

[Captdon]

Oh! Clearly not enough to bother about then. $12m wouldn't feed the Trump clan for a week. Never mind. Onto the next embezellment of taxpayers money.

Liberals have never been shy about spending money. They are willing to spend any amount on illegal immigrants. You ought to know- oh, wait. Pretty Boy backed off. Go Canada!

[Captdon]

He was cracked before he decided to run the first time.

Still in the alternative world.

[Captdon]

Much of this thread (at least for Tahuyaman's part) has been dedicated to some pretty absurd propositions. It's ridiculous to suggest that each individual with a place to live take in boarders to eliminate homelessness. That's not only a highly disruptive solution (most homeless people don't want to feel like a burden to others), it's not even a viable one, as many more middle class households belong to that station in life only marginally and cannot afford to provide for more people than they already are. And even if they all could, do you really think that being a boarder is what homeless people want anyway? No, what people really want is a place of their own! Not necessarily always a place that they have exclusive ownership of, but certainly a space that is reasonably private, wherein actual residency is not shared with others. That somehow Tahuyaman apparently does not realize any of this is a reflection of just how far intellectually divorced he is from life under such conditions as homelessness and poverty, or even an ordinary middle class existence for that matter.

The fact is that homelessness is a problem of a scale that requires societal action through collective investment, not one that private individuals acting separately can solve on their own.

This is just a liberal rant. You offer no solution and no clue as to the size of the problem. You don't say who should be helped and who has chosen this life style. Yes, I said chosen. You need to edit this one.

[Captdon]

He's been trying since the late 80s. I think the first real run was as a reform candidate in 2000.

He got something like 9000 votes total. Lol.

But he probably declared it a "great victory".


It was a primary. He got 15,000 votes.

Update: Trump is President of the United States. He got your state's electoral vote.(Just an aside)

[Captdon]

Sometimes I have some major labor intensive chores to be accomplished on my property. I have occasionally stopped and told the guy holding a sign which says “will work for food” and told him that I’ve got some work for him and I’ll feed him and pay him too. Every time, they’ve come up with some lame excuse to avoid the work part.

You need to find a bridge. The guys there will work hard.

[Brat]

It was a primary. He got 15,000 votes.

Update: Trump is President of the United States. He got your state's electoral vote.(Just an aside)

LOL! I just LOVE seeing that in print! He IS President! :love4::flag::occasion14:

[Crepitus]

If he got 9,000 votes, that’s 8,999 more than you could get.

Oh you're so witty!

[Tahuyaman]

Oh you're so witty!
You’re not.

[Crepitus]

You’re not.

Well, neither are you really. You also apparently aren't astute enough to recognize sarcasm either.

[Trish]

Sometimes I have some major labor intensive chores to be accomplished on my property. I have occasionally stopped and told the guy holding a sign which says “will work for food” and told him that I’ve got some work for him and I’ll feed him and pay him too. Every time, they’ve come up with some lame excuse to avoid the work part.

That's so sad. It's good of you to try but it sounds like it's more about getting drugs than work or food.

[Tahuyaman]

Well, neither are you really. You also apparently aren't astute enough to recognize sarcasm either.
Obviously aren't either.

[donttread]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade-expected-to-cost-80-million-more-than-estimated.html

Trump's military parade is now estimated to cost $92 million – $80 million more than earlier estimate


President Donald Trump's military parade is estimated to cost $92 million, according to a U.S. defense official with firsthand knowledge of the assessment.
An earlier estimate pegged the cost at $12 million.
The parade is scheduled to take place in the nation's capital on Nov. 10 and will feature armored vehicles, aircraft flyovers and period uniforms.


Amanda Macias (https://www.cnbc.com/amanda-macias/) | @amanda_m_macias (https://twitter.com/amanda_m_macias)
Published 6 Hours Ago Updated 3 Hours AgoCNBC.com























































https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2018/08/16/105401295-5ED4-BL-0816MilitaryParade.600x337.jpg?v=1534442374 (https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade.html)President Trump’s military parade is now estimated to cost $92 million 3 Hours Ago | 01:28
(https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/08/16/trump-military-parade.html)

President Donald Trump's military parade this fall is shaping up to cost $80 million more than initially estimated.
The Department of Defense and its interagency partners have updated their perspective cost estimates for the parade, according to a U.S. defense official with firsthand knowledge of the assessment. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The parade, slated for Nov. 10, is estimated to cost $92 million, the official said. The figure consists of $50 million from the Pentagon and $42 million from interagency partners such as the Department of Homeland Security. An initial estimate last month (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/07/18/initial-cost-for-trump-military-parade-comes-in-at-12-million-dod-says/) pegged the prospective cost for the parade at $12 million.

A Pentagon spokesman said in an email to CNBC that the Defense Department expects to make an announcement soon, but he would not comment further. The White House referred questions to the Defense Department.
The $92 million cost estimate includes security, transportation of parade assets, aircraft, as well as temporary duty for troops. The official also noted that while the size and scope of the military parade can still shift, the plans currently include approximately eight tanks, as well as other armored vehicles, including Bradleys, Strykers and M113s.





No . Neither did the pres and vp BOTH need to make a recent trip to Fort Drum. The government could take spending prudence lessons from a teenage girl with mommy and daddy's credit card on a school shopping spree!

[Crepitus]

Obviously aren't either.

That's what I just said.

[Tahuyaman]

That's what I just said.
It’s not.

[donttread]

Money far better spent on a Patriotic Parade than spending it on illegal immigrant pedophilles and various other criminal illegals that cost us billions.


Spending is spending and debt is debt