1,000,000 Plus Documents - for people who've already commited to vote NO!

[DGUtley]

What hypocrisy and political theater. There's been over a million pages turned over so far. Over 1,000,000 pages!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/31/senate-digs-through-record-1-million-pages-documents-kavanaugh/864516002/

Yet the hypocritical left has gone crazy!! Guess what? The ones that have gone craziest are the ones already on record has having said that they will be a "no" vote.

Harris: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Kamala-Harris-will-vote-no-on-Kavanaugh-13061616.php

Blumenthal: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/politics/brett-kavanaugh-senators-whip-list-vote-supreme-court/index.html

This is political theater designed to energize the left-wing base and it's disgusting. Just disgusting. If only Dirty Harry hadn't nuked us.....

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[Robo]

Does anybody doubt that the Democrats game plan is to disrupt this hearing long enough to force it beyond the election, retake the Congress and stop every Trump appointment to the court?

[DGUtley]

They will try. This is insane. Just insane.

I get that they don't like him.

[Safety]

and here I thought constitutional conservatives wanted a thorough and complete vetting process...is there a cap to the number of documents that should be presented for a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS? Just asking for a friend....

[Safety]

Does anybody doubt that the Democrats game plan is to disrupt this hearing long enough to force it beyond the election, retake the Congress and stop every Trump appointment to the court?


They will try. This is insane. Just insane.

I get that they don't like him.

Yea, kinda like Merrick Garland? Now the congress is ready to advise and consent so quickly? What possibly changed the viewpoints of conservatives here that now they are eager to push a nomination through the confirmation hearing? Rhetorical question.

[DGUtley]

and here I thought constitutional conservatives wanted a thorough and complete vetting process...is there a cap to the number of documents that should be presented for a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS? Just asking for a friend....

Which friend are you asking for?

Is there a cap? I think that there is. I think it's set by the Senate Chairman head -- this time, Grassley. Let me ask a more important question: Why do you need documents if you've already made up your mind (other than to obstruct)? These people have already made up their mind -- they have all said so. Moreover, the documents they want are the documents from when he was Staff Secretary for GW Bush. Staff Secretary. You know, menus, trip itineraries. etc. (As I understand it)

Goose / Gander: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-most-transparent-supreme-court-confirmation-process-history

I read:

8000 Documents for the Kagan.
100 documents for the wise Latina, Sotomayor. (Remember when the Ds filibustered the R's Latina pick so that the R's wouldn't be the first to appoint a Latina Judge to the DC Circuit?)

You realize that this is going to spiral down, right? This started with the D's treatment of W. Got worse with the R's payback to WPOAT. Has magnified with the D's treatment of Trump. The next D president will be under D-Day type assault by the R's from Day-1. All thanks to how W was treated as our political system unravels.

[stjames1_53]

and here I thought constitutional conservatives wanted a thorough and complete vetting process...is there a cap to the number of documents that should be presented for a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS? Just asking for a friend....

then, you grab that million plus paperwork and go through it yourself.
They aren't vetting crap. They are trying to stall thinking they will get enough seats this go-around.
Their message? HATE HATE HATE
I'm so sure that's working.........not one plank of any platform has been offered from your side. Just Hate and Intolerance.....

[DGUtley]

Yea, kinda like Merrick Garland? Now the congress is ready to advise and consent so quickly? What possibly changed the viewpoints of conservatives here that now they are eager to push a nomination through the confirmation hearing? Rhetorical question.

Just a rhetorical response: Who was it here that said he should get a yes or no vote? (Hint: Buckeyes fan!!)

[MMC]

Correct.....Blumenthal, Harris, and Booker were all saying they were a No vote once they found out who Trump picked.


Yes the Demos document tactic is lame. Not only did they get over 500k in docs. The Demos were even offered the opportunity for specific searches which they rejected.


Kavanaugh has over 300 decisions that are public, that pertains to his performance as a Judge. The only thing the Demos need to comprehend is that they are only looking at one issue. Is the guy qualified.


12 years on the DC Court says he is qualified.

[Safety]

Which friend are you asking for?

Is there a cap? I think that there is. I think it's set by the Senate Chairman head -- this time, Grassley. Let me ask a more important question: Why do you need documents if you've already made up your mind (other than to obstruct)? These people have already made up their mind -- they have all said so. Moreover, the documents they want are the documents from when he was Staff Secretary for GW Bush. Staff Secretary. You know, menus, trip itineraries. etc. (As I understand it)

Goose / Gander: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-most-transparent-supreme-court-confirmation-process-history

I read:

8000 Documents for the Kagan.
100 documents for the wise Latina, Sotomayor. (Remember when the Ds filibustered the R's Latina pick so that the R's wouldn't be the first to appoint a Latina Judge to the DC Circuit?)

You realize that this is going to spiral down, right? This started with the D's treatment of W. Got worse with the R's payback to WPOAT. Has magnified with the D's treatment of Trump. The next D president will be under D-Day type assault by the R's from Day-1. All thanks to how W was treated as our political system unravels.

I'll ask again, if there is a cap on the amount of documents that can be reviewed, where is that number located? Just because people have made it known that they will vote no, does that mean they no longer have the right to participate in the confirmation process? But hey, at least we are at a further process than we were with the last time a SCOTUS was nominated...

You mean the same spiral that evolved to Bush and Michelle playing nice, or the spiral that the right has come to the realization that their choice for POTUS has shown them to be staunch hypocrites about everything they have castigated the left for years on? Everything from EO's to accusing the POTUS of being a dictator.

[Safety]

Just a rhetorical response: Who was it here that said he should get a yes or no vote? (Hint: Buckeyes fan!!)

Did he get it?

[midcan5]

I am always amazed that people who look like human beings and talk like human beings can so inhuman. Any reading of the decisions our scotus has made through the years could make one lose faith in humanity. I give great credit to those who stood and shouted down a man who may cause more misery and sorrow in the name of a document.

https://blogs.findlaw.com/supreme_court/2015/10/13-worst-supreme-court-decisions-of-all-time.html


"Democracies have great rational and imaginative powers. They also are prone to some serious flaws in reasoning, to parochialism, haste, sloppiness, selfishness, narrowness of the spirit. Education based mainly on profitability in the global market magnifies these deficiencies, producing a greedy obtuseness and a technically trained docility that threaten the very life of democracy itself, and that certainly impede the creation of a decent world culture." Martha Nussbaum

[MMC]

Does anybody doubt that the Democrats game plan is to disrupt this hearing long enough to force it beyond the election, retake the Congress and stop every Trump appointment to the court?


Well that is a given.....but nobody expected the Demos to act like little kids throwing temper tantrums. This isn't the only committee where the Demos disrupted proceedings.


Of course we do expect that the Demos will throw any rules out the window. Rules don't apply to them. As they keep showing the country.

[DGUtley]

. . . . .You mean the same spiral that evolved to Bush and Michelle playing nice, or the spiral that the right has come to the realization that their choice for POTUS has shown them to be staunch hypocrites about everything they have castigated the left for years on? Everything from EO's to accusing the POTUS of being a dictator.
Now, see, you trumped me there. Which EO's or dictatorial actions are you talking about with respect to Trump? I can't think of any. (Please don't reference the ones reversing WPOAT EO's that the left wing nut job judges have stalled -- we all know that they were well within his constitutional authority.

[Safety]

Now, see, you trumped me there. Which EO's or dictatorial actions are you talking about with respect to Trump? I can't think of any. (Please don't reference the ones reversing WPOAT EO's that the left wing nut job judges have stalled -- we all know that they were well within his constitutional authority.

Do you really need me to provide all the threads about Obama's EOs where the forum's constitutional conservatives screamed bloody murder about? Then when the facts about how many EOs have been created juxtaposed by the administrations that have written them were compared, the topic then shifted to the "content" of the EOs.

Then, we can talk about the countless threads and posts about Obama being a dictator, yet he never had the track history that the current WPOAT-TICIO has regarding wanting washington to change the libel laws, to sending official statements to the justice department in an attempt to politicalize their decisions on whom to investigate, saying he will take over an investigation, et. al.

I mean, you may like bananas but that doesn't mean you should support a banana republic.

[DGUtley]

Do you really need me to provide all the threads about Obama's EOs where the forum's constitutional conservatives screamed bloody murder about? Then when the facts about how many EOs have been created juxtaposed by the administrations that have written them were compared, the topic then shifted to the "content" of the EOs. Then, we can talk about the countless threads and posts about Obama being a dictator, yet he never had the track history that the current WPOAT-TICIO has regarding wanting washington to change the libel laws, to sending official statements to the justice department in an attempt to politicalize their decisions on whom to investigate, saying he will take over an investigation, et. al. I mean, you may like bananas but that doesn't mean you should support a banana republic.

I'm sorry, you apparently misunderstood. Let me clarify:

What EO's has Trump issued that you are referring to?
What dictatorial action has Trump taken that you are referring to?

I am well-aware of the unconstitutional conduct of WPOAT, with his 'I got a pen...'

[Safety]

I'm sorry, you apparently misunderstood. Let me clarify:

What EO's has Trump issued that you are referring to?
What dictatorial action has Trump taken that you are referring to?

I am well-aware of the unconstitutional conduct of WPOAT, with his 'I got a pen...'

I clarified my point in the post you replied to.
Before he became president, Donald Trump accused former President Barack Obama of abusing his power by signing so many executive orders.
But during his first 200 days in office, Trump signed more than Obama averaged in a year.

Executive orders are assigned numbers and published in the federal register, similar to laws passed by Congress, and they typically direct members of the executive branch to follow a new policy or directive.

Hypocrisy fact one.

Second point about dictatorship I clarified in my post you replied to.

[Common]

Looks like Kavanaugh will be nominated anyway, this is all for show. The old tradtional democrats are trying to hang on for dear life against a Ultra left socialist wave of I want it for free younger people who they are responsible for creating

[Common]

Give the democrats another 2 million documents, stack them up in congress and say here ya go. Then pull the nuke option and left them shred all that paper :)

[DGUtley]

I clarified my point in the post you replied to. Hypocrisy fact one. Second point about dictatorship I clarified in my post you replied to.

You lost me. It's ok. Golf league championship tonight. 96 degrees and humid. Grrrrr.

[Safety]

You lost me. It's ok. Golf league championship tonight. 96 degrees and humid. Grrrrr.

Stay hydrated, wear your Nike shirt.

[Common]

Do you really need me to provide all the threads about Obama's EOs where the forum's constitutional conservatives screamed bloody murder about? Then when the facts about how many EOs have been created juxtaposed by the administrations that have written them were compared, the topic then shifted to the "content" of the EOs.

Then, we can talk about the countless threads and posts about Obama being a dictator, yet he never had the track history that the current WPOAT-TICIO has regarding wanting washington to change the libel laws, to sending official statements to the justice department in an attempt to politicalize their decisions on whom to investigate, saying he will take over an investigation, et. al.

I mean, you may like bananas but that doesn't mean you should support a banana republic.

You and obama safety, everything isnt about obama, lets go back to GWBush and how the left raged about everything he did. Or lets go back to Jimmy Carter and the right raging about him. How about that Reagan and LBJ ?

The truth has been coming out about the dirty deals the Obama admin unleashed on america.

Let the democrats rage seeth and act like children for awhile then nuke them

[Safety]

You and obama safety, everything isnt about obama, lets go back to GWBush and how the left raged about everything he did. Or lets go back to Jimmy Carter and the right raging about him. How about that Reagan and LBJ ?

The truth has been coming out about the dirty deals the Obama admin unleashed on america.

Let the democrats rage seeth and act like children for awhile then nuke them

It's the age of social media and computers, Common. You will have to dig up some of the stuff said about Clinton, Bush, Carter, Reagan, and LBJ.

[stjames1_53]

I'll ask again, if there is a cap on the amount of documents that can be reviewed, where is that number located? Just because people have made it known that they will vote no, does that mean they no longer have the right to participate in the confirmation process? But hey, at least we are at a further process than we were with the last time a SCOTUS was nominated...

You mean the same spiral that evolved to Bush and Michelle playing nice, or the spiral that the right has come to the realization that their choice for POTUS has shown them to be staunch hypocrites about everything they have castigated the left for years on? Everything from EO's to accusing the POTUS of being a dictator.

almost all of Obie's EO's were unconstitutional..........he was writing law instead of EO's and you know it. But that's ok, Trump is tearing them all down, one EO at a time......I bet that frosts your behind.................
Remember this one thing..........I've got a pen and a phone and I can run/destroy this country without Congress.............

[MMC]

You and obama safety, everything isnt about obama, lets go back to GWBush and how the left raged about everything he did. Or lets go back to Jimmy Carter and the right raging about him. How about that Reagan and LBJ ?

The truth has been coming out about the dirty deals the Obama admin unleashed on america.

Let the democrats rage seeth and act like children for awhile then nuke them

Remember the whataboutism that he comes with is always about some moral equivalency.

That is why when you go back in time. It starts with the Oldest party. Begins there. Which the left can't get around their history.

[MMC]

https://i.imgur.com/ADQzYYl.jpg

[stjames1_53]

I am always amazed that people who look like human beings and talk like human beings can so inhuman. Any reading of the decisions our scotus has made through the years could make one lose faith in humanity. I give great credit to those who stood and shouted down a man who may cause more misery and sorrow in the name of a document.

https://blogs.findlaw.com/supreme_court/2015/10/13-worst-supreme-court-decisions-of-all-time.html


"Democracies have great rational and imaginative powers. They also are prone to some serious flaws in reasoning, to parochialism, haste, sloppiness, selfishness, narrowness of the spirit. Education based mainly on profitability in the global market magnifies these deficiencies, producing a greedy obtuseness and a technically trained docility that threaten the very life of democracy itself, and that certainly impede the creation of a decent world culture." Martha Nussbaum

what is a democracy? You know that the democrats are calling themselves Socialists............Ergo, Democrat/socialist and democracy and socialism are the same thing.
Why socialism? Why compel people to exist in the Collective when they prefer Individualism?

[stjames1_53]

Remember the whataboutism that he comes with is always about some moral equivalency.

That is why when you go back in time. It starts with the Oldest party. Begins there. Which the left can't get around their history.

Dems, SJW's liberals....all live with their foot in the past, say, about the 1700-1800's

[Mini Me]

Does anybody doubt that the Democrats game plan is to disrupt this hearing long enough to force it beyond the election, retake the Congress and stop every Trump appointment to the court?

That;s a GOOD PLAN! Thanks!

[Captdon]

Does anybody doubt that the Democrats game plan is to disrupt this hearing long enough to force it beyond the election, retake the Congress and stop every Trump appointment to the court?

The vote is going to be on Sept. 23 no matter what. Grassley said said it yesterday.

[donttread]

What hypocrisy and political theater. There's been over a million pages turned over so far. Over 1,000,000 pages!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/31/senate-digs-through-record-1-million-pages-documents-kavanaugh/864516002/

Yet the hypocritical left has gone crazy!! Guess what? The ones that have gone craziest are the ones already on record has having said that they will be a "no" vote.

Harris: https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Kamala-Harris-will-vote-no-on-Kavanaugh-13061616.php

Blumenthal: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/politics/brett-kavanaugh-senators-whip-list-vote-supreme-court/index.html

This is political theater designed to energize the left-wing base and it's disgusting. Just disgusting. If only Dirty Harry hadn't nuked us.....

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One thing our government does well is create paper. I believe we have a few "trillion " pages of classified secrets

[DGUtley]

One thing our government does well is create paper. I believe we have a few "trillion " pages of classified secrets

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Yes, I'm sure they can't tell me exactly how many pages!

[texan]

I liked Lindsey Graham's words for the dems. If you want to pick judges win elections!


I could care less about the manufactured outrage or not on this and any of these subjects. They wouldn't vote for anyone offered so spare me the BS. That goes for both sides.


This is all about soundbites for aspiring presidential candidates.

[Common Sense]

Republicans didn't have a problem with blocking Obamas nominations until the election. I guess turnabout is fair play.

[MMC]

Republicans didn't have a problem with blocking Obamas nominations until the election. I guess turnabout is fair play.

Really.....how did that play out with Kagan and Sotomayor? Especially Kagan on a Mid Term Election.

[Tahuyaman]

What hypocrisy and political theater. There's been over a million pages turned over so far. Over 1,000,000 pages!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/31/senate-digs-through-record-1-million-pages-documents-kavanaugh/864516002/

Yet the hypocritical left has gone crazy!! Guess what? The ones that have gone craziest are the ones already on record has having said that they will be a "no" vote....

This request for more documents is the proverbial political smoke-screen. It doesn't matter what they receive or what answers Kavanaugh provides to the questions presented. The majority of Democrats made it known that they would vote no on any Trump nominee. They will oppose him even when they agree with his judicial philosophy.


Who cares? He'll be confirmed and the Supreme Court will be dominated by strict constitutionalists for the time being. That's a good thing, even for left wing loons.

[donttread]

and here I thought constitutional conservatives wanted a thorough and complete vetting process...is there a cap to the number of documents that should be presented for a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS? Just asking for a friend....


Vetting as to qualifications for the job and character. Not vetting to try to make them an extension of the party.

[donttread]

Which friend are you asking for?

Is there a cap? I think that there is. I think it's set by the Senate Chairman head -- this time, Grassley. Let me ask a more important question: Why do you need documents if you've already made up your mind (other than to obstruct)? These people have already made up their mind -- they have all said so. Moreover, the documents they want are the documents from when he was Staff Secretary for GW Bush. Staff Secretary. You know, menus, trip itineraries. etc. (As I understand it)

Goose / Gander: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-most-transparent-supreme-court-confirmation-process-history

I read:

8000 Documents for the Kagan.
100 documents for the wise Latina, Sotomayor. (Remember when the Ds filibustered the R's Latina pick so that the R's wouldn't be the first to appoint a Latina Judge to the DC Circuit?)

You realize that this is going to spiral down, right? This started with the D's treatment of W. Got worse with the R's payback to WPOAT. Has magnified with the D's treatment of Trump. The next D president will be under D-Day type assault by the R's from Day-1. All thanks to how W was treated as our political system unravels.


The timeframe for requesting such documents should be before the proceedings begin.