Democrats: Enough with Anti-Confirmation Tricks

[donttread]

Who is scumier? The Dems or the neocons? I won't include mainstream repubs or the LP as they do not stoop as low as either of the above. Even the socialist can't match war making for selected profit or the tantrum throwing dems.
"35 years ago in high school" somebody choose whether or not to report an incident , quite probably because it never happened in the way now described.But they found someone willing to say that the Judge attacked her back in the day. Her claims about his high level of intoxication are no doubt designed to claim that he doesn't remember because he was in a blackout. But yet was sober enough to trap her and over power her? I can hear it now. What a balless, cheap shot this whole thing is. Even if partly true there can be no evidence now , only doubt cast over his character in a last ditch effort for dems to.... get what they want.. like a three year old who doesn't want to leave clinging to the couch! And what they want is to have the president pick a justice they want. To get that you have to win the white house, which they did not , which SHOULD BE the end of the story.
Why I myself had a knife pulled on me as a kid , close to 50 years ago. Should I report this now? LOL. The dude is dead anyway but I didn't have anything to do with it. But wouldn't that be equally silly?
This is a tantrum/last ditch effort like a small child would make. After seeing how the DNC turned on their own and their faithful voters in the last election and now this I must ask:
Who are bigger assholes? Neocons? Or the Democrats as a whole?

[gamewell45]

Who is scumier? The Dems or the neocons? I won't include mainstream repubs or the LP as they do not stoop as low as either of the above. Even the socialist can't match war making for selected profit or the tantrum throwing dems.
"35 years ago in high school" somebody choose whether or not to report an incident , quite probably because it never happened in the way now described.But they found someone willing to say that the Judge attacked her back in the day. Her claims about his high level of intoxication are no doubt designed to claim that he doesn't remember because he was in a blackout. But yet was sober enough to trap her and over power her? I can hear it now. What a balless, cheap shot this whole thing is. Even if partly true there can be no evidence now , only doubt cast over his character in a last ditch effort for dems to.... get what they want.. like a three year old who doesn't want to leave clinging to the couch! And what they want is to have the president pick a justice they want. To get that you have to win the white house, which they did not , which SHOULD BE the end of the story.
Why I myself had a knife pulled on me as a kid , close to 50 years ago. Should I report this now? LOL. The dude is dead anyway but I didn't have anything to do with it. But wouldn't that be equally silly?
This is a tantrum/last ditch effort like a small child would make. After seeing how the DNC turned on their own and their faithful voters in the last election and now this I must ask:
Who are bigger $#@!s? Neocons? Or the Democrats as a whole?

Whoever said that politics was a clean business?? Both sides practice the same dirty tricks and then cry publicly how bad the other side is. My feeling is that both sides deserve what they get. Both sides are **** IMO; so glad I've been a life-long independent, there is no way I want to be associated with these clowns.

[countryboy]

Whoever said that politics was a clean business?? Both sides practice the same dirty tricks and then cry publicly how bad the other side is. My feeling is that both sides deserve what they get. Both sides are **** IMO; so glad I've been a life-long independent, there is no way I want to be associated with these clowns.

Oh really? When have republicans ever stooped to this level during SCOTUS confirmation hearings? I mean, you know, besides never.

[Hoosier8]

Oh really? When have republicans ever stooped to this level during SCOTUS confirmation hearings? I mean, you know, besides never.
There is a reason there is a saying, 'getting Borked'. The dems started this over 30 years ago.

[gamewell45]

Oh really? When have republicans ever stooped to this level during SCOTUS confirmation hearings? I mean, you know, besides never.
I'm talking in politics in general but to answer your question, the Merrick Garland nomination comes to mind. Both sides play the same game, so please don't try to tell me that the republicans are innocent players in politics.

[donttread]

Whoever said that politics was a clean business?? Both sides practice the same dirty tricks and then cry publicly how bad the other side is. My feeling is that both sides deserve what they get. Both sides are **** IMO; so glad I've been a life-long independent, there is no way I want to be associated with these clowns.

Point taken but part of my point is that the dems are winning the "how low can you go game"

[countryboy]

I'm talking in politics in general but to answer your question, the Merrick Garland nomination comes to mind. Both sides play the same game, so please don't try to tell me that the republicans are innocent players in politics.

Wait, Garland was accused of sexual assault as a teenager to put the kibosh on his appointment? No, of course not. But you already knew that.

[AlmostRightofRight]

I'm talking in politics in general but to answer your question, the Merrick Garland nomination comes to mind. Both sides play the same game, so please don't try to tell me that the republicans are innocent players in politics.
Please post links to the allegations of sexual assault level by republican members of Congress against Merrick Garland.

I'll wait.

[Captdon]

Please post links to the allegations of sexual assault level by republican members of Congress against Merrick Garland.

I'll wait.

Satire.

[gamewell45]

Point taken but part of my point is that the dems are winning the "how low can you go game"

I agree with you on that.

[gamewell45]

Wait, Garland was accused of sexual assault as a teenager to put the kibosh on his appointment? No, of course not. But you already knew that.

Wrong; Garland was nominated by Obama and the republicans put the kibosh on that. I sure you know that.

[gamewell45]

Please post links to the allegations of sexual assault level by republican members of Congress against Merrick Garland.

I'll wait.

I hope you have a lot of time.

*addition*

Read post #11

[countryboy]

Wrong; Garland was nominated by Obama and the republicans put the kibosh on that. I sure you know that.

The Biden rule.

[gamewell45]

The Biden rule.

Did you agree with what Biden did? Or did you think it was wrong?

[countryboy]

Did you agree with what Biden did? Or did you think it was wrong?

What difference does it make? Why does the left whine when their own tactics are used against them?

[gamewell45]

What difference does it make? Why does the left whine when their own tactics are used against them?

I think it matters in the big picture of things. If the right complained about the Biden rule and the left complained about it don't you see the hypocrisy of both parties?

So what do you think? Was the Biden rule right or wrong?

[countryboy]

I think it matters in the big picture of things. If the right complained about the Biden rule and the left complained about it don't you see the hypocrisy of both parties?

So what do you think? Was the Biden rule right or wrong?

I think saving the country is what matters most.

[gamewell45]

I think saving the country is what matters most.

Okay, if I backed you into a corner I'm sorry.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm talking in politics in general but to answer your question, the Merrick Garland nomination comes to mind. Both sides play the same game, so please don't try to tell me that the republicans are innocent players in politics.Garland wasn't the victim of a political motivated character assassination attempt.

[gamewell45]

Garland wasn't the victim of a political motivated character assassination attempt.

You are correct; but that wasn't my point; my point being is both sides are guilty of playing whatever tricks they can pull out of there pockets at whatever opportunity that they can.

[Tahuyaman]

You are correct; but that wasn't my point; my point being is both sides are guilty of playing whatever tricks they can pull out of there pockets at whatever opportunity that they can.


Not scheduling a confirmation hearing is not a trick. It's actually something many Democrats were advocating in the past.

[gamewell45]

Not scheduling a confirmation hearing is not a trick. It's actually something many Democrats were advocating in the past.

Well that's where we disagree then. The republicans are not innocent when it comes to dirty tricks; they are just as bad as democrats in my book.

I asked another poster in here if he felt that the so-called Biden Rule was wrong. All I got were no direct answers at all. Do you feel the Biden Rule was wrong?

[Tahuyaman]

Well that's where we disagree then. The republicans are not innocent when it comes to dirty tricks; they are just as bad as democrats in my book.

I asked another poster in here if he felt that the so-called Biden Rule was wrong. All I got were no direct answers at all. Do you feel the Biden Rule was wrong?


Tell me when Republicans did something like this? I don't ever recall the Republicans smearing any Supreme Court nominees from Democratic presidents. They generally say that they don't like the pick, but vote to confirm anyway.

[Standing Wolf]

After the b.s. move by the Republican leadership in the case of Merrick Garland, they have nothing whatsoever to complain about. No rules in a knife fight, Butch.

[ripmeister]

Wait, Garland was accused of sexual assault as a teenager to put the kibosh on his appointment? No, of course not. But you already knew that.

You missed the point.

[ripmeister]

What difference does it make? Why does the left whine when their own tactics are used against them?
So you do agree. Both sides have done it.

[gamewell45]

Tell me when Republicans did something like this? I don't ever recall the Republicans smearing any Supreme Court nominees from Democratic presidents. They generally say that they don't like the pick, but vote to confirm anyway.

Answer my original question first, do you agree with the Biden Rule or disagree with it? It's relevant to my answer to your question.

[Tahuyaman]

Answer my original question first, do you agree with the Biden Rule or disagree with it? It's relevant to my answer to your question.
I dont know what the Biden rule is.

[Captdon]

Did you agree with what Biden did? Or did you think it was wrong?

It's what it is.

[Captdon]

I think it matters in the big picture of things. If the right complained about the Biden rule and the left complained about it don't you see the hypocrisy of both parties?

So what do you think? Was the Biden rule right or wrong?

He doesn't know exactly how to answer. The Biden Rule is stupid. It is fine when it happens and an incumbent is replaced. Otherwise they should say yes or no.

[gamewell45]

He doesn't know exactly how to answer. The Biden Rule is stupid. It is fine when it happens and an incumbent is replaced. Otherwise they should say yes or no.
I agree, it was a very stupid decision and now the democrats have learned what goes around comes around. To his credit Biden admits it was a very bad decision on his part, but it is what it is now.

[Tahuyaman]

Answer my original question first, do you agree with the Biden Rule or disagree with it? It's relevant to my answer to your question.I read the Biden rule. I don't agree with it. It's dumb. Anything proposed by Biden is dumb. He basically says in an election year, if you are a Republican president, appoint no one or someone who liberal Democrats like.


Biden is a plagiarizing dumb-ass anyway.

[Captdon]

Point taken but part of my point is that the dems are winning the "how low can you go game"

That's for sure. As of now we don't know if the woman is going to show for the hearing. What does that say? She has been offered a closed door hearing and still hasn't responded.


She is being offered time to tell a story she can't prove. Her lawyer wants to limit the questions. This is a setup. The woman hasn't said anything believable. She can't remember anyone else at the party but Judge; can't remember who's house it was at; can't remember how she got there or how she got home.

This is a disgraceful thing. It's what we've come to. It isn't going to get better.

[gamewell45]

I dont know what the Biden rule is.

Get a cup of coffee, beer or your favorite drink and check out the link.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/mar/17/context-biden-rule-supreme-court-nominations/

[gamewell45]

I read the Biden rule. I don't agree with it. It's dumb. Anything proposed by Biden is dumb.

He basically says in an election year, if you are a Republican president, appoint no one or someone who liberal Democrats like.

I agree; it was a dumb decision on his part. However I don't disagree with everything Biden says or does flat out; I want to know the particulars before I cast judgement.

[Captdon]

You are correct; but that wasn't my point; my point being is both sides are guilty of playing whatever tricks they can pull out of there pockets at whatever opportunity that they can.

No, the Democrats have gone too far with this. This is beyond the pale.

[gamewell45]

No, the Democrats have gone too far with this. This is beyond the pale.

It's only going to get worse IMO; the next time the dems put up a candidate, look for the republicans to dig up all of the dirt and anything else they can legally to stymie the nomination.

[Captdon]

After the b.s. move by the Republican leadership in the case of Merrick Garland, they have nothing whatsoever to complain about. No rules in a knife fight, Butch.

This is the way it's going to be. Any man nominated will have some woman accuse him and eventually we'll have nine women on the court. Well, maybe, if some man doesn't say she did 25 dollar tricks.

[Tahuyaman]

I read the Biden rule. I don't agree with it. It's dumb. Anything proposed by Biden is dumb. He basically says in an election year, if you are a Republican president, appoint no one or someone who liberal Democrats like.


Biden is a plagiarizing dumb-ass anyway.


Get a cup of coffee, beer or your favorite drink and check out the link.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/mar/17/context-biden-rule-supreme-court-nominations/


Keep up. I read it for myself and answered your question.

[Captdon]

It's only going to get worse IMO; the next time the dems put up a candidate, look for the republicans to dig up all of the dirt and anything else they can legally to stymie the nomination.

Digging up dirt is not required. You can make it up. This thing is a fraud. The woman thought she could say it and that would be that. Can I prove it? No, she can't either but that doesn't matter.

[gamewell45]

Keep up. I read it for myself and answered your question.

Yeah I know, you just type faster then I do.

[gamewell45]

Digging up dirt is not required. You can make it up. This thing is a fraud. The woman thought she could say it and that would be that. Can I prove it? No, she can't either but that doesn't matter.

She may very well be a fraud, that remains to be seen, lets see what happens over the next day or two is what I think we should do.

[Tahuyaman]

It's only going to get worse IMO; the next time the dems put up a candidate, look for the republicans to dig up all of the dirt and anything else they can legally to stymie the nomination.


I doubt that. If the Republicans are in the minority and a Democrat is in the White House making the nominarion, the Republicans will bend over and grab their ankles like they usually do. Garland is the lone example where they stood their ground

[Tahuyaman]

She may very well be a fraud, that remains to be seen, lets see what happens over the next day or two is what I think we should do.

It appears that she is not going to show up and testify to this under oath.

[Tahuyaman]

I agree; it was a dumb decision on his part. However I don't disagree with everything Biden says or does flat out; I want to know the particulars before I cast judgement.

What has Biden ever done which is praise worthy?

[countryboy]

You missed the point.

No, I didn't.

[Tahuyaman]

That's for sure. As of now we don't know if the woman is going to show for the hearing. What does that say? She has been offered a closed door hearing and still hasn't responded.


She is being offered time to tell a story she can't prove. Her lawyer wants to limit the questions. This is a setup. The woman hasn't said anything believable. She can't remember anyone else at the party but Judge; can't remember who's house it was at; can't remember how she got there or how she got home.

This is a disgraceful thing. It's what we've come to. It isn't going to get better.

She remembers nothing other than she thought He might accidenly kill her. Plus the guy she named as a witness says he’s never witnessed any such incident.

I’m curious as to whether or not there’s any truth to the story that she made the same accusation against Gorsuch.

[countryboy]

So you do agree. Both sides have done it.

No, I do not. Name a few eleventh hour, unprovable, sexual assault allegations Republicans have made against Democrat nominees for the Supreme Court. Go ahead, I'll wait.

[gamewell45]

It appears that she is not going to show up and testify to this under oath.
If that follows through, then the republicans can point the finger and make their point made.

[gamewell45]

What has Biden ever done which is praise worthy?

That depends on what side of the fence you sit I suppose.

[Tahuyaman]

That depends on what side of the fence you sit I suppose.
ok. Let me word it this way. What has he ever accomplished other than being elected?

[Tahuyaman]

If that follows through, then the republicans can point the finger and make their point made.

Point Their finger? What?


I suspect that if she doesn't show, they'll listen to Kavanaugh on this issue and see if he seems credible.

[gamewell45]

ok. Let me word it this way. What has he ever accomplished other than being elected?
He introduced a bill addressing sexual assault and domestic violence (VAWA) the bill became law; he was also a supporter of numerous labor bills; supported the McCain-Feingold Bi-Partisan Campaign Reform Act; the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act; He has a life-time rating of 85% by the AFL-CIO voting record on organized labor issues. He has served as chairman of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary; Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee among other accomplishments.

[Captdon]

Point Their finger? What?


I suspect that if she doesn't show, they'll listen to Kavanaugh on this issue and see if he seems credible.

If she doesn't show there should be a vote to send the nomination to the floor.

[gamewell45]

If she doesn't show there should be a vote to send the nomination to the floor.

I think that would be the right thing to do.

[Tahuyaman]

He introduced a bill addressing sexual assault and domestic violence (VAWA) the bill became law; he was also a supporter of numerous labor bills; supported the McCain-Feingold Bi-Partisan Campaign Reform Act; the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act; He has a life-time rating of 85% by the AFL-CIO voting record on organized labor issues. He has served as chairman of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary; Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee among other accomplishments.
So, he supports the things others do. Oh and he is against sexual assault. How courageous.

[gamewell45]

So, he supports the things others do. Oh and he is against sexual assault. How courageous.

Your letting all this political b.s. get to you. Take a break away from the keyboard, get a drink and relax for a few minutes before sitting/standing in front of the keyboard. I'm going to follow my advice and take a break for a while as well.

[Tahuyaman]

Anyone who thinks Biden has done anything worthy of praise of any kind needs to take a break.

[Captdon]

This story has been in the news long enough that if anyone knew anything they would have come forward. No one has. It is "he said, she said." There is nothing to investigate.