Hillary Clinton and "civility"

[pjohns]

Well, I suppose that I should not be surprised.

Hillary Clinton now says that civility is a passe concept: "You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about."

Oh, for anyone interested, here is the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/10/09/hillary-clinton-cnn-interview/1578636002/

Since she once characterized those who dared to disagree with her left-wing political views as "deplorables," this is really not entirely surprising.

Nonetheless, it is a bit disappointing...

[Peter1469]

Did she say that before or after a glass of wine?

[Common]

What is surprising is that these democrats think they are scaring people with their big yapping flappers.

I hope they continue to be uncivil and act like buffoons i

[littlejohn]

Well, I suppose that I should not be surprised.
Hillary Clinton now says that civility is a passe concept: "You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about."



Hillary wants to fight, which should be a welcome change for both her followers and those who oppose her. For the followers, well, a liberal position with no civil disobedience is not going anywhere. It is a natural, necessary, and expected behavior. Indeed it is part of the definition of liberal. (A liberal by definition "liberates" the rest of the population from an unjust status quo)
So if Hillary wants to fight, that works for them.

For those opposed, fighting head on is what those-opposed typically know how to do. Taking the Republican Party as an example; they have never understood the tactics nor the strategy used by the Socialists, Thus, have never been able to mount an effective campaign. Republicans are looking for somebody to fight. Obama era strategy certainly never provided an opportunity for a head on fight.

Hillary however, can't help herself. In fact, the Socialist team of the Obama era would have had a bit of a problem with her. In fact, much like the Republicans do with President Trump. Both Hillary and Donald depend on two things; 1) charisma, and 2) "correct" is what they say it is. (autocratic)

Adding the word passe is an interesting adornment. But, passe is important. There is more at stake now. After President Nixon, and up until President Obama, those who would rule could pretty much get up and give their position on abortion and lie about tax reform. That was as complicated as elections were. Now? A very different time in history. Two opposing countries occupying the same physical space. So completely divided, one might ask whether there is a USA at all.

I am not personally a supporter of the contemporary liberal position, nor am I a Socialist, nor would I vote for Hillary.
But this time, I think she is right. I tend to agree with Hillary that things are too important now for yakking. It is going to take more
on both sides, or should I say for both of the congruent universes. Debate is gone, hate rules now.
We are going to have the fight. Try as you will, you won't be able to sit it out.

[Peter1469]

It would help if there were clearer differences between how the two main parties actually govern (as opposed to what they say). That way citizens would have something tangible to judge- which one they think is better.

[pjohns]

Former Attorney General (under Barack Obama), Eric Holder, has now chimed in:

"Michelle [Obama] used to say, 'When they go low, we go high.' No. When they go low [according to the Democrats' definition of the term], we kick them."

So much, I guess, for even a modicum of civility...

[Safety]

What did she say that wasn’t accurate?

[Chris]

"Hillary Clinton now says that civility is a passe concept: 'You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.'"

But what liberals generally stand for is destroying the traditional past and replacing it with some unknowable future.

[Tahuyaman]

Was Hillary Clinton civil with the women her husband raped and sexually assaulted?

[Chloe]

Hillary Clinton is being breathtakingly hypocritical and irresponsible with her comments, as is Eric Holder. They are knowingly and willingly contributing to the division in the country in hopes that if they succeed they will look like the inspiration. We need to do better than this.

[Chris]

Hillary Clinton is being breathtakingly hypocritical and irresponsible with her comments, as is Eric Holder. They are knowingly and willingly contributing to the division in the country in hopes that if they succeed they will look like the inspiration. We need to do better than this.

Replace the whole bunch.

[Captdon]

She and Bill are going on tour. Unlike most people, I think she is going to run again.

[Mini Me]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpO0CqDXoAAbT1v.jpg

[Tahuyaman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpO0CqDXoAAbT1v.jpg
That is effing stupid.

[Hoosier8]

That is effing stupid.

Well, the left excels at that.

[Adelaide]

Fuck both parties. They are both guilty for the climate that has made civility a mythical creature.

The Democrats need to get their shit together, starting with getting rid of and silencing the old guard. Pelosi, Clinton, others... they are doing nothing to help their cause. They are simply alienating more Democrats, particularly young voters.

[Orion Rules]

If one was to ask Hillary exactly who is running the system, would she say it is Eric Holder, or President Trump, because they don't seem to care about anything but their own. Or is it just her, that she thinks she is President, because of 'Russian collaboration'. So, which fallacy is right: 1. Donald Trump is President of the United States, of a 50-state disjointed union, or: 2. she is the President of those who want her, of they already rule over them.

[Tahuyaman]

Well, the left excels at that.

Some more than others.

[Tahuyaman]

$#@! both parties. They are both guilty for the climate that has made civility a mythical creature.

The Democrats need to get their $#@! together, starting with getting rid of and silencing the old guard. Pelosi, Clinton, others... they are doing nothing to help their cause. They are simply alienating more Democrats, particularly young voters.
The young Democrats coming up are socialists to one degree or another. They aren’t doing your party any favors.

[Chris]

Fuck both parties. They are both guilty for the climate that has made civility a mythical creature.

The Democrats need to get their shit together, starting with getting rid of and silencing the old guard. Pelosi, Clinton, others... they are doing nothing to help their cause. They are simply alienating more Democrats, particularly young voters.


Agree. But just don't see it happening. Time for sea change.

[Captdon]

It would help if there were clearer differences between how the two main parties actually govern (as opposed to what they say). That way citizens would have something tangible to judge- which one they think is better.

Trump makes a difference. That's enough for now. He seems to be putting some backbone into Republicans. He wouldn't cave on Kavanaugh(probably didn't consider it) so the Republicans didn't.

I hope he doesn't cave on Dec 8 about the spending. I hope.

[Tahuyaman]

No one is going to get spending under control until circumstances make it so it can’t be avoided.

[Peter1469]

No one is going to get spending under control until circumstances make it so it can’t be avoided.

Very true.

[Tahuyaman]

Back to the topic of this thread, I think it’s possibly the greatest irony in political history that Hillary Clinton is lecturing anyone on the need for civility. Ask Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski and Kathleen Wiley about how civil she was with them.

[Peter1469]

Back to the topic of this thread, I think it’s possibly the greatest irony in political history that Hillary Clinton is lecturing anyone on the need for civility. Ask Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Monica Lewinski and Kathleen Wiley about how civil she was with them.

Ironic, isn't it?

[Tahuyaman]

Ironic, isn't it?
It’s incredible. This is a woman who led an operation to destroy the lives of women who were victims of her husband. And she wants to lecture anyone about civility? Really?

[Jeb!]

Thanks to Hillary Clinton, my post from a week ago aged well.

Evil lost. Civility won.

[Captdon]

No one is going to get spending under control until circumstances make it so it can’t be avoided.

But Trump could get it started by cutting this spending deficit by half. He can't get it all but he could try to get something. So far, he has been a disappointment in that.

[Captdon]

What did she say that wasn’t accurate?

Everything. It's Hillary Clinton.