Democrats are ramping up the hate.

[Lummy]

Just in the last day or two:

https://twitter.com/AndrewJKugle/status/1050394308568854528/video/1
Reporters: "Mob" is the wrong word for Democrat violent behavior.

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1050089144632918018
Eric Holder: "When they go low, we kick 'em. That's what this new Democratic Party is all about."

Carlson and Loesch discuss violent left:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/10/10/loesch-tucker-dems/


And then there's this one high school halftime show:
https://youtu.be/J1kErWqqf3k


This is absolutely deplorable and inexcusable. Where are the school authorities?

[Peter1469]

CNN anchor. Kanye West is what happens when a negro reads the wrong books. :shocked:

[stjames1_53]

Just in the last day or two:

https://twitter.com/AndrewJKugle/status/1050394308568854528/video/1
Reporters: "Mob" is the wrong word for Democrat violent behavior.

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1050089144632918018
Eric Holder: "When they go low, we kick 'em. That's what this new Democratic Party is all about."

Carlson and Loesch discuss violent left:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/10/10/loesch-tucker-dems/


And then there's this one high school halftime show:
https://youtu.be/J1kErWqqf3k


This is absolutely deplorable and inexcusable. Where are the school authorities?

you cannot unsee what they did............
all of the staff and musical coaches and musical admin should be held for questioning and those immediately responsible should be fired.......... but it's cool, they can find work at UCLA

[Common]

The democrats do what pumps up their base, their base is pumped up by just the kind of rhetoric coming out of the democrat party, they are promoting violence and incivility.

[MMC]

Indeed, and expect them to hit tilt after they find out they wont win the House and they will lose 4-5 seats in the Senate.

[midcan5]

Sure.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/101798-Camille-Paglia-Explains-How-Feminism-Has-Cost-Women-Their-Identity-and-Happiness?p=2439014&viewfull=1#post2439014 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/101798-Camille-Paglia-Explains-How-Feminism-Has-Cost-Women-Their-Identity-and-Happiness?p=2439014&viewfull=1#post2439014)


https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2018/02/national-security-pros-its-time-talk-about-right-wing-extremism/146319/

https://qz.com/1355874/terrorism-is-surging-in-the-us-fueled-by-right-wing-extremists/

[Tahuyaman]

No one can deny that the Democrats are fueling the hate. Of course Trump is their built in excuse. Their hateful rhetoric is all justified because of Donald Trump.

[ripmeister]

No one can deny that the Democrats are fueling the hate. Of course Trump is their built in excuse. Their hateful rhetoric is all justified because of Donald Trump.
"Donald Trump standing on stage at a rally saying he will pay the legal fees of anyone who beats up protestors,” Just sayin.

[Tahuyaman]

No one can deny that the Democrats are fueling the hate. Of course Trump is their built in excuse. Their hateful rhetoric is all justified because of Donald Trump.


"Donald Trump standing on stage at a rally saying he will pay the legal fees of anyone who beats up protestors,” Just sayin.
Just when someone was going to tell me I’m wrong, a liberal chimes in and proves me right.

[ripmeister]

Just when someone was going to tell me I’m wrong, a liberal chimes in and proves me right.
Are you saying The Salesman didn't say that and has only contributed to the vitriol?

[ripmeister]

I'm glad the R's aren't contributing to the air of incivility these days. :rollseyes:

https://www.axios.com/scott-wagner-threatens-to-stomp-tom-wolf-face-pennsylvania-e86d17d5-3d64-4164-abc3-0efc9f4952dd.html

[Tahuyaman]

Are you saying The Salesman didn't say that and has only contributed to the vitriol?

No, my comment should not have been so confusing to you.

Democrats use Trump to justify spreading their hatred which has motivated violence.

[ripmeister]

No, my comment should not have been so confusing to you.

Democrats use Trump to justify spreading their hatred which has motivated violence.

I guess I misinterpreted you. For that I apologize. It does take two to tango though.

[Tahuyaman]

I'm glad the R's aren't contributing to the air of incivility these days. :rollseyes:

https://www.axios.com/scott-wagner-threatens-to-stomp-tom-wolf-face-pennsylvania-e86d17d5-3d64-4164-abc3-0efc9f4952dd.html
When he brings a high powered rifle to a baseball practice and tries to kill Democrats, let me know. When he tries to run a Democrat off the road with car, throw the book at him. When he violently ambushes a congressman yelling “this is for health care” link us to that.

[stjames1_53]

I'm glad the R's aren't contributing to the air of incivility these days. :rollseyes:

https://www.axios.com/scott-wagner-threatens-to-stomp-tom-wolf-face-pennsylvania-e86d17d5-3d64-4164-abc3-0efc9f4952dd.html

Earlier this week, Hillary Clinton drew criticism for saying Democrats "cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for." White House counselor Kellyanne Conway quickly pushed back with her own biting rhetoric. Former Attorney General Eric Holder also told Democrats this week to flip former First Lady Michelle Obama's mantra on civility, instead advocating, "When they go low, we kick them."

[stjames1_53]

I'm glad the R's aren't contributing to the air of incivility these days. :rollseyes:

https://www.axios.com/scott-wagner-threatens-to-stomp-tom-wolf-face-pennsylvania-e86d17d5-3d64-4164-abc3-0efc9f4952dd.html

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/12/arizona-gop-office-vandalized/

[Tahuyaman]

Tell me when a Republican or conservative elected official gather his or her constituents and tells them to “harass them wherever you find them”. “Harass them while they’re in a restaurant or getting gasoline”. ”. “Get in their face”.

[Captdon]

"Donald Trump standing on stage at a rally saying he will pay the legal fees of anyone who beats up protestors,” Just sayin.\


He never had to. Just sayin'.

[Captdon]

I guess I misinterpreted you. For that I apologize. It does take two to tango though.

1. Both are Demonuts.

2. If that changes it won't be a tango.

[Robo]

"Donald Trump standing on stage at a rally saying he will pay the legal fees of anyone who beats up protestors,” Just sayin.

He only said that when the protestors invaded his rally and screamed obscenities at him and supporters in the crowd. Violence begets violence. Paying one's fine for protecting his/her right to be at a rally without being attacked seems rational and a damned good idea to me.

[stjames1_53]

I guess I misinterpreted you. For that I apologize. It does take two to tango though.

right.........a bully and his target................gotcha

[ripmeister]

I guess all the dissention is a result of those on the left. :rollseyes:

[Tahuyaman]

I guess all the dissention is a result of those on the left. :rollseyes:
What dissension are you referring to?

[Chris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv5GUIbHqHM

[Captain Obvious]

It doesn't take a lot of effort to see what happens when the left wants power, they go militant, terrorist, they organize and kill, rape, etc.

The right just drones and occupies but that's another story.

[Peter1469]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv5GUIbHqHM

Looked like a shot from the front on JFK. The Secret Service already foiled one plot to assassinate Trump (https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-the-secret-service-foiled-an-assassination-attempt-against-trump-by-isis?ref=home)- by ISIL in the Philippines. (A similar attempt was made on Bill there by al Qaeda in the late 1990s.)

Regarding the video- Hollywood is called Holly-weird for a reason.

[MMC]

I'm glad the R's aren't contributing to the air of incivility these days. :rollseyes:

https://www.axios.com/scott-wagner-threatens-to-stomp-tom-wolf-face-pennsylvania-e86d17d5-3d64-4164-abc3-0efc9f4952dd.html

Oh were you looking for moral equivalency? For every one incident that you can show a Repub inciting violence. There are 10-12 incidents on the left.

You don't think that one or two incidents by Repubs equal 20-24 by leftists.....Do you? And lets not fallback on the basic concept that all should comprehend. That none should be using violence and it is wrong in the first place. Quite redundant to say when the left keeps on committing acts of violence or inciting violence.


Oh and if you want to go by moral equivalency.....that it means so much to a leftist to seek out that moral equivalency. Then surely the leftness cannot forget history. Or do they always need to be reminded about their past. Where the violence, intimidation, and terrorizing of people begins with the Oldest Party in the Country. Their party.....their people. Their tactics. A reality that can't escape and clearly haven't changed.

[MMC]

I guess all the dissention is a result of those on the left. :rollseyes:

So what Repub members of Congress are out inciting violence?

[Peter1469]

So what Repub members of Congress are out inciting violence?

Lib answer: "all of them." Just by being alive I suppose. :wink:

[MMC]

Lib answer: "all of them." Just by being alive I suppose. :wink:

So in reality.....none.

Whats funny is that the leftness thinks those on the Right shouldn't return the favors. Or that if something is said.....after the fact, that it warrants the same consideration. Which is ridiculous.


The left has started something. Which they wont like the end game at all.

[MMC]

The democrats do what pumps up their base, their base is pumped up by just the kind of rhetoric coming out of the democrat party, they are promoting violence and incivility.

:wink:


https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/stg100918dAPR20181007084516.jpg

[Common Sense]

There are idiots on both sides.

GOP candidate threatens to "stomp" on Pennsylvania governor's face with golf spikes
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gop-candidate-threatens-to-stomp-on-pennsylvania-governors-face-with-golf-spikes

Video appears to show members of far-right 'Proud Boys' group beating up anti-fascist protesters outside Republican club in NYC
https://www.businessinsider.com/proud-boys-antifa-fight-nyc-video-2018-10

[Chris]

There are idiots on both sides.

GOP candidate threatens to "stomp" on Pennsylvania governor's face with golf spikes
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gop-candidate-threatens-to-stomp-on-pennsylvania-governors-face-with-golf-spikes

Video appears to show members of far-right 'Proud Boys' group beating up anti-fascist protesters outside Republican club in NYC
https://www.businessinsider.com/proud-boys-antifa-fight-nyc-video-2018-10


DOes that exonerate the left or condemn both?

[Common Sense]

DOes that exonerate the left or condemn both?

It does neither.

There are idiots on all sides. What's stupid and dishonest is to try to condemn an entire group based on the actions or words of a few.

[Chris]

It does neither.

There are idiots on all sides. What's stupid and dishonest is to try to condemn an entire group based on the actions or words of a few.

Exonerates then, I see.

[Common Sense]

Exonerates then, I see.

No. Putting words in people's mouths is also dishonest.

I condemn all incitement to violence and violence itself.

[Chris]

No. Putting words in people's mouths is also dishonest.

I condemn all incitement to violence and violence itself.

Then just say so.

[mamooth]

Nazi propaganda claimed the Jews were instigating violence against peaceful innocent Germans, in order to justify violence and oppression against Jews. Fascism, it's the Republican playbook.

Conservatives have been trained to be violent these days. Let them talk a while, and they usually end up saying how those awful liberals deserve the beatdowns that they have coming their way. MMC was kind enough to provide a good example of that. After all, FOX keeps telling them how awful and violent the liberals are. Just look at the OP. No violence by liberals, just conservative talking heads saying how violent liberals are, for the purpose of inciting the conservative base.

Needless to say, you don't see liberals dreaming of getting violent to defend themselves from conservatives. The two sides are totally different. Liberals condemn liberal violence, hence there's less liberal violence. Conservatives encourage and excuse conservative violence, hence there's much more conservative violence. The conservatives usually fail to understand how they're being manipulated into supporting violence. Their cult leaders hide conservative violence from them, and then trumpet liberal harsh words as actual violence. Conservatives have been trained to see themselves as the oppressed victims who need to fight back, in the same way the GoodGermans saw themselves as victims of the evil Jews.

(If the fascist comparisons triggered anyone, tough luck. If the jackboot fits, wear it.)

[MMC]

There are idiots on both sides.

GOP candidate threatens to "stomp" on Pennsylvania governor's face with golf spikes


https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gop-candidate-threatens-to-stomp-on-pennsylvania-governors-face-with-golf-spikes

Video appears to show members of far-right 'Proud Boys' group beating up anti-fascist protesters outside Republican club in NYC


https://www.businessinsider.com/proud-boys-antifa-fight-nyc-video-2018-10

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East Bay GOP Rep. Candidate Attacked in Attempted Stabbing at Castro Valley Fall Festival No injuries were reported from the incident, according to the Sheriff's Office spokesperson Sgt. Ray Kelly



[URL="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/04/four-chicago-thugs-arrested-for-kidnapping-torturing-white-trump-supporter-during-facebook-livestream/"]Four Chicago Thugs Arrested for Kidnapping Torturing White ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Gop+Candidate+stabbed&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS#)https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/04/four-chicago-thugs...
Four Chicago Thugs Arrested for Kidnapping Torturing White Trump Supporter During Facebook Livestream… Posted on January 4, 2017 by sundance Chicago police have arrested four people in a gruesome attack after they video themselves torturing a …



Moral Equivalency.....Right?

[Captdon]

I guess all the dissention is a result of those on the left. :rollseyes:

Now you have it.

[Captdon]

There are idiots on both sides.

GOP candidate threatens to "stomp" on Pennsylvania governor's face with golf spikes


https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gop-candidate-threatens-to-stomp-on-pennsylvania-governors-face-with-golf-spikes

Video appears to show members of far-right 'Proud Boys' group beating up anti-fascist protesters outside Republican club in NYC


https://www.businessinsider.com/proud-boys-antifa-fight-nyc-video-2018-10

Anti-fa? You're worrying about anti-Fa? They're are the Democratic SA. They are the violent left. If you were an American I'd say you were an apologist for the violent left. Since you aren't, you're an apologist for the left.

Anti-Fa should be attacked wherever their found.

[Captdon]

No. Putting words in people's mouths is also dishonest.

I condemn all incitement to violence and violence itself.

You never condemn anti-fa. Never. The leaders of the Dems never do either. Talk about dishonesty.

[Peter1469]

Nazi propaganda claimed the Jews were instigating violence against peaceful innocent Germans, in order to justify violence and oppression against Jews. Fascism, it's the Republican playbook.

Conservatives have been trained to be violent these days. Let them talk a while, and they usually end up saying how those awful liberals deserve the beatdowns that they have coming their way. MMC was kind enough to provide a good example of that. After all, FOX keeps telling them how awful and violent the liberals are. Just look at the OP. No violence by liberals, just conservative talking heads saying how violent liberals are, for the purpose of inciting the conservative base.

Needless to say, you don't see liberals dreaming of getting violent to defend themselves from conservatives. The two sides are totally different. Liberals condemn liberal violence, hence there's less liberal violence. Conservatives encourage and excuse conservative violence, hence there's much more conservative violence. The conservatives usually fail to understand how they're being manipulated into supporting violence. Their cult leaders hide conservative violence from them, and then trumpet liberal harsh words as actual violence. Conservatives have been trained to see themselves as the oppressed victims who need to fight back, in the same way the GoodGermans saw themselves as victims of the evil Jews.

(If the fascist comparisons triggered anyone, tough luck. If the jackboot fits, wear it.)

Oh sure. Fascists advocate for smaller government and individual liberty..., where do I sign up. :shocked:

[Captdon]

Nazi propaganda claimed the Jews were instigating violence against peaceful innocent Germans, in order to justify violence and oppression against Jews. Fascism, it's the Republican playbook.

Conservatives have been trained to be violent these days. Let them talk a while, and they usually end up saying how those awful liberals deserve the beatdowns that they have coming their way. MMC was kind enough to provide a good example of that. After all, FOX keeps telling them how awful and violent the liberals are. Just look at the OP. No violence by liberals, just conservative talking heads saying how violent liberals are, for the purpose of inciting the conservative base.

Needless to say, you don't see liberals dreaming of getting violent to defend themselves from conservatives. The two sides are totally different. Liberals condemn liberal violence, hence there's less liberal violence. Conservatives encourage and excuse conservative violence, hence there's much more conservative violence. The conservatives usually fail to understand how they're being manipulated into supporting violence. Their cult leaders hide conservative violence from them, and then trumpet liberal harsh words as actual violence. Conservatives have been trained to see themselves as the oppressed victims who need to fight back, in the same way the GoodGermans saw themselves as victims of the evil Jews.

(If the fascist comparisons triggered anyone, tough luck. If the jackboot fits, wear it.)

Go back to the sandbox. You are a lesser.

[mamooth]

Go back to the sandbox. You are a lesser.

Here's just a very tiny list of recent conservative violence I made a couple years back. If I had decided to update it, which would be a Herculean task, given levels of conservative violence, it would be many times longer. Thus, by the very craven and dishonest conservative "whoever posts the most cherrypicks wins" standard, I have proven conservatives are far more violent, and I win running away. You've been humiliated according to your own standards. Truly, it sucks to be you.

1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/william-celli-arrested_us_56782b8fe4b0b958f6573d35
Trump supporter arrested for building bombs, was planning to attack Muslims.

2
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/militia-terror-plot-fbi-kansas_us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90
Three pro-Trump Christian jihadists arrested for plotting terror attacks against Muslims.

3
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/27/da-man-kicked-muslim-woman-jfk-airport-said-trump-here-now/97145286/
Trump supporter attacks Muslim woman at airport.

4
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/?utm_term=.28ad880f87d3
Trump supporter attacks Muslim student and latino man at gas station.

5
http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/Black-Man-Stabbed-In-Olympia-In-What-Police-Say-May-Be-Racially-Motivated-Hate-Crime-2584308
White man stabs black man for holding hands with white woman, asks to be released so he can attend Trump rally.

6
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/
Hardcore Trump supporter kills 6 people in mosque attack.

7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdYHdbWduNs
Triggered Trump-snowflake assaults comedian on stage for telling anti-Trump joke. Comedian then continues show (because liberals aren't snowflakes).

8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/21/trump-says-fans-are-very-passionate-after-hearing-one-of-them-allegedly-assaulted-hispanic-man/?utm_term=.e2089826bada
Two white men savagely attack homeless man while screaming support for Trump. Trump immediately praises his fans for being "passionate".

9
http://fox17online.com/2016/11/17/police-investigating-assault-on-cab-driver-ethnic-intimidation/
Man beats immigrant cab driver while screaming "TRUMP!".

10
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/get-the-fck-out-of-america-btches-crazed-trump-fan-attacks-muslim-women-pushing-baby-strollers/
Fanatical Trump supporter attacks two Muslim women pushing a baby stroller.

11
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/christopher-von-keyserling-republican-grab-woman-genitals-groin-pussy-greenwich-connecticut-town-a7530856.html
Local Republican politician grabs woman's genitals to prove he doesn't have to be PC.

12
https://thinkprogress.org/black-family-says-white-hospital-volunteer-assaulted-them-used-the-n-word-and-invoked-donald-trump-3b175dde48a5
Black family assaulted by hospital volunteer who is ranting about Donald Trump.

13
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3902902/Iowa-cop-killer-Scott-Michael-Greene-proud-Donald-Trump-supporter.html
Proud Trump supporter kills 2 cops in Iowa.

14
https://itsgoingdown.org/olympia-wa-fascist-shoots-windows-downtown-yells-hail-trump/
Vehicle occupants yelling "Hail Trump" shoot out windows of occupied businessess.

15
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/there-was-blood-everywhere-trump-supporter-arrested-after-attacking-gay-men-at-sydney-mcdonalds/
Trump supporter screaming "White men rule" attacks gay man outside of McDonalds.

16
http://globalnews.ca/news/3049756/man-beaten-at-donald-trump-rally-for-holding-republicans-against-trump-sign/
Mob of unhinged Trump supporters assaults man for holding protest sign.

17
http://www.businessinsider.com/man-punched-and-choked-protesters-at-north-carolina-trump-rally-2016-9
Another unhinged Trump supporter attacking someone at a Trump rally.

18
http://gawker.com/trump-supporter-charged-with-assault-after-beating-prot-1766090832
And another.

19
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/69-year-old-woman-punched-in-the-face-at-trump-rally.html
And another, this time an old woman being punched.

20
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-supporter-arrested-punching-person-clinton-event-article-1.2842182
Trump supporter attacks people at Clinton rally. (Trump supporters get violent at everyone's rallies).

21
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/02/a_list_of_violent_incidents_at_donald_trump_rallie s_and_events.html
A list of 20 times Trump supporters attacked people at Trump rallies.

22
http://dcist.com/2016/05/police_are_searching_for_a_suspect.php
Muslim woman attacked at Starbucks by self-proclaimed Trump voter.

23
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/this-is-for-donald-trump-white-man-repeatedly-punches-hispanic-worker-in-the-back-of-the-head/
White man screaming "This is for Donald Trump" assaults Latino man.

24
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-supporter-allegedly-tries-to-run-over-latino-dem-candidate-whos-also-a-retired-marine/
Trump supporter attempts to murder Latino Democratic candidate by running him over.

25
http://bangordailynews.com/2016/11/21/news/bangor/council-members-denounce-alleged-pro-trump-attack-as-hate-crime/
White man assaults black man while screaming pro-Trump slogans.

26
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-faces-hate-crime-charge-mateen-mosque-arson-article-1.2792764
Trump supporter tries to burn down mosque.

27
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Employee-Hijab-Delta-Sky-Lounge-Kicked-Harassed-Flyer-Shouts-Trump-is-Here-Now-411924555.html
Muslim man assaulted at airport by man screaming support for Trump.

28
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/30/after-alleged-groping-teen-trump-protester-pepper-sprayed-by-trump-supporter-outside-wisc-rally/?utm_term=.5914f2e99ff5
Two Trump supporters pepper spray and sexually assault 15-year-old.

29
http://www.dailywire.com/news/10612/report-transgenders-truck-set-fire-after-being-frank-camp#exit-modal
Transgender person's car torched after having "Trump" spraypainted on it.

30
http://www.thedailybeast.com/black-protester-beaten-at-trump-rally-ready-to-sue-for-hate-crime
Trump rally attendees gang-assault and hospitalize black man, while screaming racist insults at him.

31
https://patch.com/new-york/bed-stuy/bed-stuy-school-kids-harassed-driver-yelling-f-black-lives-they-dont-matter
Trump supporter nearly runs over schoolchildren after screaming racist insults.

32
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/lgbt-activist-kidnapped-raped-man-france-donald-trump-mocked-anger-a7627001.html
Gay rights activist kidnapped and raped by Trump supporter.

33
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15177-trump-supporter-who-punched-protester-next-time-we-might-have-to-kill-him
Trump supporter who sucker-punched protester only regrets not killing him.

34
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/trump-artist-punched-face-nude-painting-los-angeles-378062381.html?_osource=nbcnews_twitter
Petite female artist stalked and assaulted by Trump-gang for making fun of Trump's tiny weewee.

35
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-hate-crime-gay-man-attacked-homophobic-chris-ball-calgary-santa-monica-a7411116.html
Men yelling pro-Trump slogans attack gay man.

36
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/sarasota-man-says-he-was-attacked-for-being-gay
Trump supporter road-rage attacks 75 year old man for having pro-LGBT bumper sticker.

37
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/drunken-pittsburgh-man-sucker-punches-oblivious-indian-man-he-mistook-for-sand-nr/
Drunken Trump supporter attacks Indian man that he thinks is a Muslim.

38
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3521583/Uber-driver-repeated-Trump-s-Make-America-Great-slogan-shooting-dead-six-people-Kalamazoo.html
Uber driver murders 6 while screaming "Make America Great Again!".

39
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748428/Cannibal-killer-Austin-Harrouff-19-wearing-Make-America-Great-Trump-hat-stormed-murdered-random-couple.html
Man wearing "Make America Great Again" hat murders two people and tries to eat their faces.

[MMC]

Ah yes the List, the incidents moral equivalency list.....then one has to go by History with those long long lists of incidents, and once again we learn that the Oldest Party in the Country was the first to incite violence, use violence, threaten and intimidate. Having more incidents than any other party or parties combined. And the winner is.....the Democrats.


Its just a fact that the Leftness can't get around.

[ripmeister]

Lib answer: "all of them." Just by being alive I suppose. :wink:

"Punch him in the face"

[ripmeister]

DOes that exonerate the left or condemn both?
It condemns both. Neither side has clean hands.

[ripmeister]

Ah yes the List, the incidents moral equivalency list.....then one has to go by History with those long long lists of incidents, and once again we learn that the Oldest Party in the Country was the first to incite violence, use violence, threaten and intimidate. Having more incidents than any other party or parties combined. And the winner is.....the Democrats.


Its just a fact that the Leftness can't get around.
You need to give up on this moral equivalency argument you want to make. That dog don't hunt.

[Chris]

Oh sure. Fascists advocate for smaller government and individual liberty..., where do I sign up. :shocked:

Since fascism has more in common with the left, all mamooth triggered was a boot in his own hole.

[Chris]

You need to give up on this moral equivalency argument you want to make. That dog don't hunt.


Depends. And this is why I questioned Common Sense. Is it done dismissively as a whataboutism? Or is it intended to condemn violence in politics?

[MMC]

You need to give up on this moral equivalency argument you want to make. That dog don't hunt.

Its not me doing it.....its the leftness. They always bring up some incident that involved a Repub. So its best to cut to the chase and go Right to who started it all in the beginning.

I stay focused on the current situation and who is doing it now at this time in reality. Rather than deflect to Repubs. The left should acknowledge how their leaders are wrong for trying to incite more violence.

[ripmeister]

Its not me doing it.....its the leftness. They always bring up some incident that involved a Repub. So its best to cut to the chase and go Right to who started it all in the beginning.

I stay focused on the current situation and who is doing it now at this time in reality. Rather than deflect to Repubs. The left should acknowledge how their leaders are wrong for trying to incite more violence.
So which is it. In your first paragraph you say "who started it all in the beginning" and then in your second paragraph you say "I stay focused on the current situation".

Which "leaders" exactly are inciting violence and I specifically mean that, not protest, not resistance.

[Common Sense]

You never condemn anti-fa. Never. The leaders of the Dems never do either. Talk about dishonesty.

I've repeatedly condemned antifa. Keep up.

[Common Sense]

Since fascism has more in common with the left, all mamooth triggered was a boot in his own hole.
Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum. It's on the right/authoritarian quadrant of the political compass.

[Peter1469]

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum. It's on the right/authoritarian quadrant of the political compass.

On a linear model- they are left.

total authoritarian on the far left
zero government on the far right

as you add government move from right to left.

[Common Sense]

On a linear model- they are left.

total authoritarian on the far left
zero government on the far right

as you add government move from right to left.

That seems more like a scale that measures libertarian vs. Authoritarian. That isn't the left right spectrum.

[Chris]

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum. It's on the right/authoritarian quadrant of the political compass.

It's funny, we go through this time and again. I ask why you think so and you say many say so. I say but fascists were anti-individualism, anti-capitalism. How is that rightwing? And you say but they were authoritarian and I say so were communists so that's not a distinction. So, come on, say something new to support your claim?

[Peter1469]

That seems more like a scale that measures libertarian vs. Authoritarian. That isn't the left right spectrum.

Of course it is. The US and European nations would be hovering around the middle of the line.

[MMC]

So which is it. In your first paragraph you say "who started it all in the beginning" and then in your second paragraph you say "I stay focused on the current situation".

Which "leaders" exactly are inciting violence and I specifically mean that, not protest, not resistance.

When waters stated you let them know they aren't wanted here or anywhere, anymore. That is a statement of inciting violence.

[Captdon]

Here's just a very tiny list of recent conservative violence I made a couple years back.

You write bad fiction.

[Captdon]

"Punch him in the face"

You ever actually said that anti-fa is violent? Not one leader of any kind in the left has done so. Not a one. Hypocrisy seems to be sop for the left.

They still worship Clinton but want the #metoo movement considered legitimate. She single-handedly destroyed the credibility of NOW. Hypocrites all.

They call for getting in people's faces in private. Hypocrites.

They tried to politically lynch a man. Hypocrites.

They say nothing about left-wing violence. Hypocrites.

I don't know of a Democrat on this forum. I'd be embarrassed to admit it too.

The Dems are playing with fire.

[Captdon]

So which is it. In your first paragraph you say "who started it all in the beginning" and then in your second paragraph you say "I stay focused on the current situation".

Maxine Waters is the leader. You skip right over the lack of condemnation by any left-wing leader.

Which "leaders" exactly are inciting violence and I specifically mean that, not protest, not resistance.

[Captdon]

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum. It's on the right/authoritarian quadrant of the political compass.

Fascism is by definition left wing . Guaranteeing a job, a home and healthcare is left wing and fascism. Setting up free old age homes is left wing and fascism. Price and wage control is left wing and fascism.

What the fascism did to the Jews, Poles and others was German horror not fascism. The War in Europe was caused by German aggression not fascism.

Learn what it is before using the term. Fascism is on the right only to communism. Using this term today makes you foolish. Fascism is dead.

[Captdon]

Since fascism has more in common with the left, all mamooth triggered was a boot in his own hole.

I only respond to him with nothing but I think everyone deserves some attention. You don't ignore a child no matter how foolish.

[Captdon]

I've repeatedly condemned antifa. Keep up.

Not by name. Pay attention to what is said.

[Captdon]

That seems more like a scale that measures libertarian vs. Authoritarian. That isn't the left right spectrum.

Fascism is only to the right of communism.

[Captdon]

It's funny, we go through this time and again. I ask why you think so and you say many say so. I say but fascists were anti-individualism, anti-capitalism. How is that rightwing? And you say but they were authoritarian and I say so were communists so that's not a distinction. So, come on, say something new to support your claim?

It is a false claim.

[Peter1469]

Fascism is only to the right of communism.

Right. It was the communists who first called fascism right wing. To communists that could be seen as true. But to a modern American liberal that statement is false.

[ripmeister]

When waters stated you let them know they aren't wanted here or anywhere, anymore. That is a statement of inciting violence.

That's a pretty low bar.

[ripmeister]

You ever actually said that anti-fa is violent? Not one leader of any kind in the left has done so. Not a one. Hypocrisy seems to be sop for the left.

They still worship Clinton but want the #metoo movement considered legitimate. She single-handedly destroyed the credibility of NOW. Hypocrites all.

They call for getting in people's faces in private. Hypocrites.

They tried to politically lynch a man. Hypocrites.

They say nothing about left-wing violence. Hypocrites.

I don't know of a Democrat on this forum. I'd be embarrassed to admit it too.

The Dems are playing with fire.

I've denounced ANTIFA numerous times here.

[Dr. Who]

Then just say so.
He did, but he also pointed out that the left are not unique in promoting violence. The premise that the left is alone in this behavior is simply untrue, but it is popular among some to believe that it is.

[Dr. Who]

Anti-fa? You're worrying about anti-Fa? They're are the Democratic SA. They are the violent left. If you were an American I'd say you were an apologist for the violent left. Since you aren't, you're an apologist for the left.
Anti-Fa should be attacked wherever their found.
Whether or not you like Anti-Fa, they were simply demonstrating, not causing injury and property damage. If you feel it is wrong for Anti-Fa to attack white supremacists or the like when they are demonstrating, it is equally wrong for Proud Boys to engage in the same behavior. Suggesting that Anti-Fa should be attacked wherever they're found is simply hypocrisy. You are just choosing to support violence on the part of the team that allies with your own political philosophy. Proud boys have made themselves the violent right and you have become their apologist.

[Tahuyaman]

Whether or not you like Anti-Fa, they were simply demonstrating, not causing injury and property damage...


Tell me you aren't serious.

[roadmaster]

I have watched the proud boys and they never start any violence but they do defend themselves and that is why the left hates them. Even the last one in NY, they were protesting what Antifa did to the republican offices and Antifa followed them were threatening them and then threw a large bottle of piss on them. They defended themselves from these nasty people. The left acts like conservatives shouldn't be able to protest or walk down the street. It's ok for Antifa, BLM but not conservative groups.

[roadmaster]

I have never seen the proud boys set cars on fire, break windows, tear up places and attack people that didn't attack them first. The left knows they can't say the same thing for Antifa. Don't compare them to these nasty people.

[Lummy]

Black Lives Matter certainly does damage property. Like the story says, other than that, they are sort of peaceful (ie they haven't killed people under the BLM aegis yet.)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/09/03/vox-riots-arson-and-shootings-aside-black-lives-matter-is-pretty-peaceful/
(https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/09/03/vox-riots-arson-and-shootings-aside-black-lives-matter-is-pretty-peaceful/)

[nathanbforrest45]

Here's just a very tiny list of recent conservative violence I made a couple years back. If I had decided to update it, which would be a Herculean task, given levels of conservative violence, it would be many times longer. Thus, by the very craven and dishonest conservative "whoever posts the most cherrypicks wins" standard, I have proven conservatives are far more violent, and I win running away. You've been humiliated according to your own standards. Truly, it sucks to be you.

1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/william-celli-arrested_us_56782b8fe4b0b958f6573d35
Trump supporter arrested for building bombs, was planning to attack Muslims.

2
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/militia-terror-plot-fbi-kansas_us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90
Three pro-Trump Christian jihadists arrested for plotting terror attacks against Muslims.

3
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/27/da-man-kicked-muslim-woman-jfk-airport-said-trump-here-now/97145286/
Trump supporter attacks Muslim woman at airport.

4
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/trump-trump-trump-yells-attacker-as-he-beats-hispanic-man-muslim-student/?utm_term=.28ad880f87d3
Trump supporter attacks Muslim student and latino man at gas station.

5
http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/Black-Man-Stabbed-In-Olympia-In-What-Police-Say-May-Be-Racially-Motivated-Hate-Crime-2584308
White man stabs black man for holding hands with white woman, asks to be released so he can attend Trump rally.

6
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/
Hardcore Trump supporter kills 6 people in mosque attack.

7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdYHdbWduNs
Triggered Trump-snowflake assaults comedian on stage for telling anti-Trump joke. Comedian then continues show (because liberals aren't snowflakes).

8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/21/trump-says-fans-are-very-passionate-after-hearing-one-of-them-allegedly-assaulted-hispanic-man/?utm_term=.e2089826bada
Two white men savagely attack homeless man while screaming support for Trump. Trump immediately praises his fans for being "passionate".

9
http://fox17online.com/2016/11/17/police-investigating-assault-on-cab-driver-ethnic-intimidation/
Man beats immigrant cab driver while screaming "TRUMP!".

10
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/get-the-fck-out-of-america-btches-crazed-trump-fan-attacks-muslim-women-pushing-baby-strollers/
Fanatical Trump supporter attacks two Muslim women pushing a baby stroller.

11
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/christopher-von-keyserling-republican-grab-woman-genitals-groin-$#@!-greenwich-connecticut-town-a7530856.html
Local Republican politician grabs woman's genitals to prove he doesn't have to be PC.

12
https://thinkprogress.org/black-family-says-white-hospital-volunteer-assaulted-them-used-the-n-word-and-invoked-donald-trump-3b175dde48a5
Black family assaulted by hospital volunteer who is ranting about Donald Trump.

13
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3902902/Iowa-cop-killer-Scott-Michael-Greene-proud-Donald-Trump-supporter.html
Proud Trump supporter kills 2 cops in Iowa.

14
https://itsgoingdown.org/olympia-wa-fascist-shoots-windows-downtown-yells-hail-trump/
Vehicle occupants yelling "Hail Trump" shoot out windows of occupied businessess.

15
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/there-was-blood-everywhere-trump-supporter-arrested-after-attacking-gay-men-at-sydney-mcdonalds/
Trump supporter screaming "White men rule" attacks gay man outside of McDonalds.

16
http://globalnews.ca/news/3049756/man-beaten-at-donald-trump-rally-for-holding-republicans-against-trump-sign/
Mob of unhinged Trump supporters assaults man for holding protest sign.

17
http://www.businessinsider.com/man-punched-and-choked-protesters-at-north-carolina-trump-rally-2016-9
Another unhinged Trump supporter attacking someone at a Trump rally.

18
http://gawker.com/trump-supporter-charged-with-assault-after-beating-prot-1766090832
And another.

19
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/69-year-old-woman-punched-in-the-face-at-trump-rally.html
And another, this time an old woman being punched.

20
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-supporter-arrested-punching-person-clinton-event-article-1.2842182
Trump supporter attacks people at Clinton rally. (Trump supporters get violent at everyone's rallies).

21
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/02/a_list_of_violent_incidents_at_donald_trump_rallie s_and_events.html
A list of 20 times Trump supporters attacked people at Trump rallies.

22
http://dcist.com/2016/05/police_are_searching_for_a_suspect.php
Muslim woman attacked at Starbucks by self-proclaimed Trump voter.

23
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/this-is-for-donald-trump-white-man-repeatedly-punches-hispanic-worker-in-the-back-of-the-head/
White man screaming "This is for Donald Trump" assaults Latino man.

24
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-supporter-allegedly-tries-to-run-over-latino-dem-candidate-whos-also-a-retired-marine/
Trump supporter attempts to murder Latino Democratic candidate by running him over.

25
http://bangordailynews.com/2016/11/21/news/bangor/council-members-denounce-alleged-pro-trump-attack-as-hate-crime/
White man assaults black man while screaming pro-Trump slogans.

26
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-faces-hate-crime-charge-mateen-mosque-arson-article-1.2792764
Trump supporter tries to burn down mosque.

27
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Muslim-Employee-Hijab-Delta-Sky-Lounge-Kicked-Harassed-Flyer-Shouts-Trump-is-Here-Now-411924555.html
Muslim man assaulted at airport by man screaming support for Trump.

28
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/30/after-alleged-groping-teen-trump-protester-pepper-sprayed-by-trump-supporter-outside-wisc-rally/?utm_term=.5914f2e99ff5
Two Trump supporters pepper spray and sexually assault 15-year-old.

29
http://www.dailywire.com/news/10612/report-transgenders-truck-set-fire-after-being-frank-camp#exit-modal
Transgender person's car torched after having "Trump" spraypainted on it.

30
http://www.thedailybeast.com/black-protester-beaten-at-trump-rally-ready-to-sue-for-hate-crime
Trump rally attendees gang-assault and hospitalize black man, while screaming racist insults at him.

31
https://patch.com/new-york/bed-stuy/bed-stuy-school-kids-harassed-driver-yelling-f-black-lives-they-dont-matter
Trump supporter nearly runs over schoolchildren after screaming racist insults.

32
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/lgbt-activist-kidnapped-raped-man-france-donald-trump-mocked-anger-a7627001.html
Gay rights activist kidnapped and raped by Trump supporter.

33
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15177-trump-supporter-who-punched-protester-next-time-we-might-have-to-kill-him
Trump supporter who sucker-punched protester only regrets not killing him.

34
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/trump-artist-punched-face-nude-painting-los-angeles-378062381.html?_osource=nbcnews_twitter
Petite female artist stalked and assaulted by Trump-gang for making fun of Trump's tiny weewee.

35
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-hate-crime-gay-man-attacked-homophobic-chris-ball-calgary-santa-monica-a7411116.html
Men yelling pro-Trump slogans attack gay man.

36
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/sarasota-man-says-he-was-attacked-for-being-gay
Trump supporter road-rage attacks 75 year old man for having pro-LGBT bumper sticker.

37
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/drunken-pittsburgh-man-sucker-punches-oblivious-indian-man-he-mistook-for-sand-nr/
Drunken Trump supporter attacks Indian man that he thinks is a Muslim.

38
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3521583/Uber-driver-repeated-Trump-s-Make-America-Great-slogan-shooting-dead-six-people-Kalamazoo.html
Uber driver murders 6 while screaming "Make America Great Again!".

39
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3748428/Cannibal-killer-Austin-Harrouff-19-wearing-Make-America-Great-Trump-hat-stormed-murdered-random-couple.html
Man wearing "Make America Great Again" hat murders two people and tries to eat their faces.

This reminds me of those "list" Demoloonies posted incessantly about Republicans over the last 100 years getting arrested for various crimes.

To Mamooth I can only say, go away little twerp.

[nathanbforrest45]

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum. It's on the right/authoritarian quadrant of the political compass.


I really have to question the quality of Canadian education if you believe fascism is on the "right side of the political spectrum". I submit to you that Fascism is just one more branch of the Collectivist, Statist tree. The very name "Fascist" comes from the bundle of reeds bound together with the idea that an individual reed is easily broken while a bundle of reeds is quite strong. Carried over to the State it means the individual has no power, it all resides in the State.

The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative. Benito Mussolini


All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. Benito Mussolini

Fascism is a religious concept. Benito Mussolini

The truth is that men are tired of liberty. Benito Mussolini


To continue to claim fascism is on the right is to continue to show your ignorance.

[stjames1_53]

He did, but he also pointed out that the left are not unique in promoting violence. The premise that the left is alone in this behavior is simply untrue, but it is popular among some to believe that it is.

then, compile a list of those people who committed acts of violence based just on their right leaning political beliefs.
Believe what you want, you cannot compile such a list.
Then build a list of Right political leaders who demanded Trump supporters to harass and confront liberals where ever they eating, getting gas, or just seen in public......or you are deliberately misleading (lying?)..............

[Common Sense]

Not by name. Pay attention to what is said.
Yes, by name I've condemned antifa.

..but you've never really been interested in facts, so...

[Peter1469]

He did, but he also pointed out that the left are not unique in promoting violence. The premise that the left is alone in this behavior is simply untrue, but it is popular among some to believe that it is.

Protests including violence is largely on the left. The Proud Boys are exceptions to the rule. The right has had its nut cases- murdering abortion doctors comes to mind. The left also has eco-terrorists and animal rights terrorists (recognized by the FBI as such.) The right doesn't really have that.

[Peter1469]

Black Lives Matter certainly does damage property. Like the story says, other than that, they are sort of peaceful (ie they haven't killed people under the BLM aegis yet.)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/09/03/vox-riots-arson-and-shootings-aside-black-lives-matter-is-pretty-peaceful/
(https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/09/03/vox-riots-arson-and-shootings-aside-black-lives-matter-is-pretty-peaceful/)
Oddly, BLM tend to destroy their property / their parts of town.

[Common Sense]

I really have to question the quality of Canadian education if you believe fascism is on the "right side of the political spectrum". I submit to you that Fascism is just one more branch of the Collectivist, Statist tree. The very name "Fascist" comes from the bundle of reeds bound together with the idea that an individual reed is easily broken while a bundle of reeds is quite strong. Carried over to the State it means the individual has no power, it all resides in the State.

The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative. Benito Mussolini


All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. Benito Mussolini

Fascism is a religious concept. Benito Mussolini

The truth is that men are tired of liberty. Benito Mussolini


To continue to claim fascism is on the right is to continue to show your ignorance.

If it's so wrong, why is the political compass test a sticky here?

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/5279-Hey-guys-Political-Crowd-Chart

[nathanbforrest45]

If it's so wrong, why is the political compass test a sticky here?

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/5279-Hey-guys-Political-Crowd-Chart

I have no idea but for anyone to put fascism on the conservative side of the spectrum is an error. One that you seem to delight in perpetuating.

[Captdon]

Whether or not you like Anti-Fa, they were simply demonstrating, not causing injury and property damage. If you feel it is wrong for Anti-Fa to attack white supremacists or the like when they are demonstrating, it is equally wrong for Proud Boys to engage in the same behavior. Suggesting that Anti-Fa should be attacked wherever they're found is simply hypocrisy. You are just choosing to support violence on the part of the team that allies with your own political philosophy. Proud boys have made themselves the violent right and you have become their apologist.

Anti-Fa is not causing violence? They haven't hurt anyone? They haven't caused any damage? I'm not going to engage someone who lives in a fantasy world.

[Captdon]

Tell me you aren't serious.

The sad part is she is serious.

[Chris]

Right. It was the communists who first called fascism right wing. To communists that could be seen as true. But to a modern American liberal that statement is false.

Correct, in the history of the time, the communists were left collectivists while fascists and Nazis right collectivists.

[Captdon]

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by MMC http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=2440902#post2440902)
When waters stated you let them know they aren't wanted here or anywhere, anymore. That is a statement of inciting violence.


That's a pretty low bar.

Nancy Pelosi attacked President trump for calling MS-13 animals. She said they were human beings like anyone else. That's not a condemnation, that's saying they are not bad.

The Dems never say a word about leftist violence. Never.

[Chris]

If it's so wrong, why is the political compass test a sticky here?

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/5279-Hey-guys-Political-Crowd-Chart


The Political Compass test doesn't score groups, especially groups that no longer exist. The test scores some person answering the questions.

The people who created it explain that, that the left/right dichotomy is fading in importance:


Our essential point is that Left and Right, although far from obsolete, are essentially a measure of economics. As political establishments adopt either enthusiastically or reluctantly the prevailing economic orthodoxy — the neo-liberal strain of capitalism — the Left-Right division between mainstream parties becomes increasingly blurred. Instead, party differences tend to be more about identity issues. In the narrowing debate, our social scale is more crucial than ever.

@ https://www.politicalcompass.org/


What exactly in your mind makes fascists right wing? What distinguishes them as such?

[MMC]

That's a pretty low bar.

Not really.....where are they suppose to go if they aren't wanted around anywhere, anymore?

[MMC]

Dem Official Who Said Republicans Should Be Sent to the 'Guillotine' Insists It Was an Inside Joke https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2018/10/16/dem-official-republicans-should-be-sent-to-the-guillotine-n2528742

Someone Sent a Threatening Letter, Allegedly Laced With 'Ricin,' to Sen. Collins' Home in Maine (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/10/16/someone-sent-a-threatening-letter-allegedly-laced-with-ricin-to-sen-collins-home-in-maine-n2528823)


More to come, huh?

[Captdon]

Yes, by name I've condemned antifa.

..but you've never really been interested in facts, so...

I have never been interested in liberal lies is what I think you must have meant. Otherwise this makes no sense.

[Common Sense]

I have never been interested in liberal lies is what I think you must have meant. Otherwise this makes no sense.

You're an idiot.

[Dr. Who]

I have no idea but for anyone to put fascism on the conservative side of the spectrum is an error. One that you seem to delight in perpetuating.
That's because being a collectivist does not imply that you are not also right-wing. Both Hitler and Mussolini were fundamentally socially conservative in their views and both ultranationalistic.


In the 1920s the Italian Fascists described their ideology as right-wing in the political program The Doctrine of Fascism, stating: "We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right,' a fascist century".

Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

[Captdon]

That's because being a collectivist does not imply that you are not also right-wing. Both Hitler and Mussolini were fundamentally socially conservative in their views and both ultranationalistic.

They were both socialists. Read some history. They were ultra-nationalist and, in Hitler's case, bent on world domination.But to say they were conservative about anything is dead wrong.

They guaranteed jobs, housing, free healthcare, old age homes and price controls. There is not one conservative(right wing) thing in anything they did. They didn't have the government own everything but they did have it control everything.

The line goes communism, fascism, socialism, part socialism-part capitalism and capitalism. Left to right. Fascism is dead.

Wikipedia is not a credible source. I can edit it to say whatever I want.

[Dr. Who]

They were both socialists. Read some history. They were ultra-nationalist and, in Hitler's case, bent on world domination.But to say they were conservative about anything is dead wrong.

They guaranteed jobs, housing, free healthcare, old age homes and price controls. There is not one conservative(right wing) thing in anything they did. They didn't have the government own everything but they did have it control everything.

The line goes communism, fascism, socialism, part socialism-part capitalism and capitalism. Left to right. Fascism is dead.

Wikipedia is not a credible source. I can edit it to say whatever I want.
You know all those little numbers next to the text in Wikipedia - they are links to the list of sources at the bottom of the page.

[nathanbforrest45]

You're an idiot.


Isn't name calling really against the rules?

[Common Sense]

Isn't name calling really against the rules?

Yeah...my bad.

I guess I just don't tolerate people who imply I'm a liar.

[roadmaster]

Protests including violence is largely on the left. The Proud Boys are exceptions to the rule. The right has had its nut cases- murdering abortion doctors comes to mind. The left also has eco-terrorists and animal rights terrorists (recognized by the FBI as such.) The right doesn't really have that.
You are listening to the left media. The proud boys are diverse they just don't sit there and allow Antifa to attack them without defending themselves. They walk away and Antifa tried to attack them.
Gavin McInnes spoke at the Republican Club on 83rd street, after event, Proud Boys stream out of club and given police escort to Park Ave. When they reach 82nd street a small group turns down. Counter protesters tried to grab their Trump MAGA hat when the assault occurred. That was one, the other some were following them, sprayed gas at them and threw a bottle of piss at them. So you either believe in self defense or you don't.

https://youtu.be/-7-K4-ryBSE

[Captdon]

You know all those little numbers next to the text in Wikipedia - they are links to the list of sources at the bottom of the page.


I can always find a source to back whatever I want it to say. I read this great book, The South Was Right, that proves the South was correct to fight the Civil War. That's what a citation means to Wikipedia.

[roadmaster]

That is another reason why I get upset with the right. They are quick to disown their own, the ones fighting for free speech and our constitutional rights. Unite the right doesn't work because we have too many on the right that are concerned how they may look. I don't care what group on the right is fighting for us, I will support them. You can't win if you are always divided. Do you think the left cares if many Antifa supports child sex, no, promotes homosexuality and teaching kids it's normal, no. Believes in being lawless and mob control, no.

The rights need to stop being wimps.

[Chris]

That is another reason why I get upset with the right. They are quick to disown their own, the ones fighting for free speech and our constitutional rights. Unite the right doesn't work because we have too many on the right that are concerned how they may look. I don't care what group on the right is fighting for us, I will support them. You can't win if you are always divided. Do you think the left cares if many Antifa supports child sex, no, promotes homosexuality and teaching kids it's normal, no. Believes in being lawless and mob control, no.

The rights need to stop being wimps.


The right is right to disown their own who cross various lines, like racism. The left are wimps for excusing it.

[roadmaster]

The right is right to disown their own who cross various lines, like racism. The left are wimps for excusing it.

Oh right like the fake media says something and the rights refuse to rally. They were yelling in VA, YOU will not replaces us. So the fake media said they were saying Jews will not replace us. The rights all went into hiding. I can't stand most of the right. They are afraid of everything.

[roadmaster]

Then those Trump supporters like you carrying torches from a hardware store, because it was dark. All the media had to say was KKK and you all disowned them. You want the bikers to come to your defense every time. You will cheer them, well until the media labels them, then you will run away from them. They just haven't figured out how to do it yet.

Even the Patriot prayer group stupid rights are distancing themselves from them. Many rights claim to be Christian and won't even stand up for them while they run when they think another group is being offended. You are so double minded you might as well give the WH to the liberals. This should be in rants because there is no way I would stand with many of you. I feel sorry for the ones out there because they don't have support. If I were younger I would be out there with them.

[Captdon]

Then those Trump supporters like you carrying torches from a hardware store, because it was dark. All the media had to say was KKK and you all disowned them. You want the bikers to come to your defense every time. You will cheer them, well until the media labels them, then you will run away from them. They just haven't figured out how to do it yet.

Even the Patriot prayer group stupid rights are distancing themselves from them. Many rights claim to be Christian and won't even stand up for them while they run when they think another group is being offended. You are so double minded you might as well give the WH to the liberals. This should be in rants because there is no way I would stand with many of you. I feel sorry for the ones out there because they don't have support. If I were younger I would be out there with them.

And you've done what exactly?

[mamooth]

Since fascism has more in common with the left, all mamooth triggered was a boot in his own hole.

The only people claiming fascism is left-wing are right-wing fascists. They want to embrace the ideology, just without the label.


I say but fascists were anti-individualism,

So, textbook right wing, and totally opposite the left.


anti-capitalism

No. They liked the same corporate-government alliances that the American right likes. In contrast, the left favors true capitalism, as defined by Adam Smith.

Plus, there's the hardcore authoritarian thing in fascism that currently defines the modern American right.

So, go down the list, fascism is right-wing on every point.

[mamooth]

You write bad fiction.

Those incidents all had a links to a primary source.

And you handwaved it away. That is, you were actively covering for right-wing violence, and you did it because you want more of that violence. Same with Chris and Pete, being they thanked you for covering for right-wing violence. You all need to take a good look at yourselves, and try to grasp what your butthurt over me has driven you to do.

This is another reason why it's so good to be a liberal. We don't follow psychopaths and pathological liars, so we don't have to make excuses for them. We don't lie, so we don't end up tripping over our own lies. We're consistent, so we never get dinged for hypocrisy.

My point stands. My list was much, much longer than your lists, so by the gutless and dishonest "whoever cherrypicks the most" conservative standards, I have proven the right is far more violent than the left. None of the righties here even pretended they could address my point. Dang, I'm good.

[mamooth]

This reminds me of those "list" Demoloonies posted incessantly about Republicans over the last 100 years getting arrested for various crimes.
To Mamooth I can only say, go away little twerp.

And yet another excuser of right-wing violence. They get so upset when you rub their face in it, just how violent their side is.

Let's see, just today.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/10/armed_protesters_were_on_portl.html
---
Prior to the start of a scheduled Aug. 4 demonstration, "the Portland Police Bureau discovered individuals who positioned themselves on a rooftop parking structure in downtown Portland with a cache of firearms," Wheeler said during a City Hall press conference. Berk Nelson, a senior mayoral aide, later said the weapons included "long guns."
---

Remind me, which liberals stationed themselves on rooftops in sniper positions?

Let the excuses for it begin. After all, it's what you righties do, excuse right-wing violence. It's all you do, because you want to see more of it.

[Chris]

And yet another excuser of right-wing violence. They get so upset when you rub their face in it, just how violent their side is.

Let's see, just today.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2018/10/armed_protesters_were_on_portl.html
---
Prior to the start of a scheduled Aug. 4 demonstration, "the Portland Police Bureau discovered individuals who positioned themselves on a rooftop parking structure in downtown Portland with a cache of firearms," Wheeler said during a City Hall press conference. Berk Nelson, a senior mayoral aide, later said the weapons included "long guns."
---

Remind me, which liberals stationed themselves on rooftops in sniper positions?

Let the excuses for it begin. After all, it's what you righties do, excuse right-wing violence. It's all you do, because you want to see more of it.


Nice half-truth there, mamooth. Let's show everyone what you choose to omit from the story:


Police officers seized the weapons found on the rooftop that day, but they were later given back. No arrests were made because the protesters had not broken any laws and all had licenses to carry concealed weapons, Lee said.

...Outlaw said the Police Bureau warns the public that protesters may be armed. Both right- and left-wing demonstrators have come to Portland protests armed, she said.

[Chris]

The only people claiming fascism is left-wing are right-wing fascists. They want to embrace the ideology, just without the label.



So, textbook right wing, and totally opposite the left.



No. They liked the same corporate-government alliances that the American right likes. In contrast, the left favors true capitalism, as defined by Adam Smith.

Plus, there's the hardcore authoritarian thing in fascism that currently defines the modern American right.

So, go down the list, fascism is right-wing on every point.


You make claims without backing any of it up.

What made fascist rightwing? Be specific. Name your points.

No, authoritarianism just doesn't cut it when their opponents, the communists, were just as authoritarian.

[Chris]

Oh right like the fake media says something and the rights refuse to rally. They were yelling in VA, YOU will not replaces us. So the fake media said they were saying Jews will not replace us. The rights all went into hiding. I can't stand most of the right. They are afraid of everything.


Fake media?

You're not responding at all to what I posted. I'll wait.

[stjames1_53]

You make claims without backing any of it up.

What made fascist rightwing? Be specific. Name your points.

No, authoritarianism just doesn't cut it when their opponents, the communists, were just as authoritarian.

manmooth is merely projecting himself on others

[Captdon]

Those incidents all had a links to a primary source.

And you handwaved it away. That is, you were actively covering for right-wing violence, and you did it because you want more of that violence. Same with Chris and Pete, being they thanked you for covering for right-wing violence. You all need to take a good look at yourselves, and try to grasp what your butthurt over me has driven you to do.

This is another reason why it's so good to be a liberal. We don't follow psychopaths and pathological liars, so we don't have to make excuses for them. We don't lie, so we don't end up tripping over our own lies. We're consistent, so we never get dinged for hypocrisy.

My point stands. My list was much, much longer than your lists, so by the gutless and dishonest "whoever cherrypicks the most" conservative standards, I have proven the right is far more violent than the left. None of the righties here even pretended they could address my point. Dang, I'm good.

Now, children are okay but you are getting tiresome with your fiction.I'm going to ignore you again for a while until I get bored again. Back to the crayons for you.

[Captdon]

Nice half-truth there, mamooth. Let's show everyone what you choose to omit from the story:

If you're seeking the truth this guy isn't it.

[Chris]

If you're seeking the truth this guy isn't it.

Posting for everyone else's benefit. A sort of Paul Harvey and now for the rest of the story.

[Captdon]

Fake media?

You're not responding at all to what I posted. I'll wait.

I'm waiting to see what she's done except bitch that we haven't done anything.

[Chris]

manmooth is merely projecting himself on others

I call it mirror trolling. Say something about the left, he'll mirror it back about the right.

[Captdon]

Yeah...my bad.

I guess I just don't tolerate people who imply I'm a liar.

I wasn't implying.

[stjames1_53]

Eight Violent Attacks On Republicans Just This Year

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/17/republicans-attacked-2018-list/

‘Stop Hurting Me!’: Soros-Funded Male Democratic Operative Arrested For Assaulting Female Campaign Manager, Leaving Bruises

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/17/soros-funded-operative-nevada-assault/
I am compelled to note on this one: So much for the party that respects women

[mamooth]

Nice half-truth there, mamooth. Let's show everyone what you choose to omit from the story:

So if Antifa was setting up sniper nests on the rooftops, would you say it's fine and dandy because they technically didn't do anything illegal?

Of course you wouldn't. Every conservative media source would be screaming about liberal terrorists, and you'd be parroting them, as you always do. I hope you don't lie openly and pretend otherwise. Every rightie here would be in a state of complete hysterical meltdown if the left was setting up sniper nests.

[Chris]

So if Antifa was setting up sniper nests on the rooftops, would you say it's fine and dandy because they technically didn't do anything illegal?

Of course you wouldn't. Every conservative media source would be screaming about liberal terrorists, and you'd be parroting them, as you always do. I hope you don't lie openly and pretend otherwise. Every rightie here would be in a state of complete hysterical meltdown if the left was setting up sniper nests.


No one was setting up sniper nests, mamooth. Why do you need to makes things up.

[mamooth]

What made fascist rightwing? Be specific. Name your points.

Maintaining and enhancing the corporate-capitalist economic status quo is the big one. That very starkly divides fascism from communism. The fascist doesn't rail about class. The fascist says the current class system is awesome, and we just need more of it. The fascist replaces government by the people with government by the monied.

The other traits of fascism that American conservatives display in such abundance are generally held in common with other types of authoritarianism. If you want to invent a new term to describe right wing authoritarianism in the USA, that's fine, given that the American right does tend to combine the worst features of communism and fascism.

[MMC]

So far.....one Repub shot at a softball game. Since this upcoming election. 2 Repubs in Minnesota attacked. One in California attacked with a knife. A Repub female threatened to Raped and Killed.


Repub politicians homes mobbed by the left. Offices mobbed. Mobbed at a restaurant. Or out in public.


We have Demos inciting violence, their leaders not toning down the rhetoric or acts.


And still the Right remains tolerant.


What should Repubs do once they learn that it will continue after the Election?

[mamooth]

No one was setting up sniper nests, mamooth. Why do you need to makes things up.

Yes, they just assembled on the rooftop with long rifles.

I understand your confusion. If the left had done that, it clearly would have been a sniper nest in your eyes. But this was the right, and in your world, the right is incapable of such things.

[ripmeister]

So far.....one Repub shot at a softball game. Since this upcoming election. 2 Repubs in Minnesota attacked. One in California attacked with a knife. A Repub female threatened to Raped and Killed.


Repub politicians homes mobbed by the left. Offices mobbed. Mobbed at a restaurant. Or out in public.


We have Demos inciting violence, their leaders not toning down the rhetoric or acts.


And still the Right remains tolerant.


What should Repubs do once they learn that it will continue after the Election?
Yea, right!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/18/politics/trump-rally-gianforte-my-guy/index.html

[mamooth]

Yea, right!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/18/politics/trump-rally-gianforte-my-guy/index.html
I was about to post that.

Most of the Republicans at that rally cheered Trump's praise of violence.

Every Republican on this thread will also refuse to condemn it, if they don't openly cheer it as well.

The two sides are completely different. The left condemns violence, so there's little violence from the left. The right endorses violence, so there's much more of it from the right.

And if any conservative disagrees, they should start by unconditionally condemning Trump for his praise of violence. Otherwise, the appropriate reply to them will be "shut up, hypocrite".

[Chris]

Yes, they just assembled on the rooftop with long rifles.

I understand your confusion. If the left had done that, it clearly would have been a sniper nest in your eyes. But this was the right, and in your world, the right is incapable of such things.


It is you who takes the facts and stretches them into fantasy. I'm not the one confused here.

[stjames1_53]

It is you who takes the facts and stretches them into fantasy. I'm not the one confused here.

you cannot expect less than violent rhetoric and mirror trolling from a certified extremist...........I believe I got "mirror trolling" from you...thanks

[stjames1_53]

Yes, they just assembled on the rooftop with long rifles.

I understand your confusion. If the left had done that, it clearly would have been a sniper nest in your eyes. But this was the right, and in your world, the right is incapable of such things.
those rifles belonged to your side. You were waiting for Trump to show up so you could kill him.......

[Chris]

Maintaining and enhancing the corporate-capitalist economic status quo is the big one. That very starkly divides fascism from communism. The fascist doesn't rail about class. The fascist says the current class system is awesome, and we just need more of it. The fascist replaces government by the people with government by the monied.

The other traits of fascism that American conservatives display in such abundance are generally held in common with other types of authoritarianism. If you want to invent a new term to describe right wing authoritarianism in the USA, that's fine, given that the American right does tend to combine the worst features of communism and fascism.


Maintaining and enhancing the corporate-capitalist economic status quo is the big one.

LOL. Facist corporatism has to do with organizing society around giulds and trade unions and such. Fascism was anti-capitalist. So, obviously, you don't know what you're talking about.



The other traits of fascism that American conservatives display in such abundance are generally held in common with other types of authoritarianism.

Communism was also authoritarian so that is not a distinguishing feature. Republicans are generally for smaller government and Democrats for bigger government. So you're confused there too.

[MMC]

Yea, right!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/18/politics/trump-rally-gianforte-my-guy/index.html

Oh my Trump jokes about somebody bodyslamming a reporter. As opposed to 4 separate attacks on Repub politicians and threatening to rape and kill a Female Repub candidate.

Yet somehow the leftness looks for moral equivalency.


Give it a break.

[mamooth]

Fascism was anti-capitalist.

On a scale of 10 to 10, how much does it bother you that even other conservatives laugh hard at your openly revisionist history? That's a standard fascist tactic, of course, trying to revise history like that.

Republicans are generally for smaller government

No. Republicans say that, but they always demonstrate the opposite. So, by your standards, they're fascist. They just like a different type of bigger government. They're for a big government that oppresses the people, as opposed to a liberal government that protects the people.

[Common Sense]

Oh my Trump jokes about somebody bodyslamming a reporter. As opposed to 4 separate attacks on Repub politicians and threatening to rape and kill a Female Repub candidate.

Yet somehow the leftness looks for moral equivalency.


Give it a break.

Except one guy is the actual president of the United States and the others are fringe nuts.

[mamooth]

Oh my Trump jokes about somebody bodyslamming a reporter.And right on schedule, a Repoublican runs to defend Trump's calls for violence, by making up stories of liberal violence. That's the point I keep making, and it keeps being proven.

opposed to 4 separate attacks on Repub politicians and threatening to rape and kill a Female Repub candidate.
See? He's just making stories up now.

The guy threatening the two senators over Kavanaugh was ... a white male Christian and registered Republican. And yet conservatives are all screaming he's a liberal. They'll say anything to justify their thuggery.

Yet somehow the leftness looks for moral equivalency.
There's no equivalence. The conservative side is way more violent, as I keep demonstrating. Not a single conservative is willing to condemn Trump's calls for violence, and not a single one ever will, because they all adore the violence. That's why they're trying so hard to excuse it with phony stories of moral equivalency.

[Chris]

On a scale of 10 to 10, how much does it bother you that even other conservatives laugh hard at your openly revisionist history? That's a standard fascist tactic, of course, trying to revise history like that.


No. Republicans say that, but they always demonstrate the opposite. So, by your standards, they're fascist. They just like a different type of bigger government. They're for a big government that oppresses the people, as opposed to a liberal government that protects the people.


I see only people laughing at your lack of knowledge. I'd say you're revising history, however, you actually just make it up.

No, by your fake standards.

By your standards Democrats are fascists. Even that's false.

[Mister D]

I see only people laughing at your lack of knowledge. I'd say you're revising history, however, you actually just make it up.

No, by your fake standards.

By your standards Democrats are fascists. Even that's false.

He obviously doesn't understand what is meant by corporatism in this context but this brings to mind the least interesting part of Polyani's work. The post war left simply could not accept the revolutionary, anti-liberal nature of fascism.

[Chris]

He obviously doesn't understand what is meant by corporatism in this context but this brings to mind the least interesting part of Polyani's work. The post war left simply could not accept the revolutionary, anti-liberal nature of fascism.

Yes, they were anti-liberal but that included classical-liberal-minded conservatives, libertarians and progressives.

Speaking of progressives, FDR sure did admire Mussolini's running of trains on time.

[Mister D]

Yes, they were anti-liberal but that included classical-liberal-minded conservatives, libertarians and progressives.

Speaking of progressives, FDR sure did admire Mussolini's running of trains on time.

Of course. I try to only use "liberal" in that general sense at this point.

I rather admire Mussolini but dislike FDR.

[Chris]

Of course. I try to only use "liberal" in that general sense at this point.

I rather admire Mussolini but dislike FDR.


Right, just not sure everyone understands how liberalism includes all we see in America.


I don't know enough about Mussolinin and what he accomplished to say, only enough to shoot down modern liberals who see some affinity between fascists and conservatives, see but cannot seem to explain.

[Mister D]

Right, just not sure everyone understands how liberalism includes all we see in America.


I don't know enough about Mussolinin and what he accomplished to say, only enough to shoot down modern liberals who see some affinity between fascists and conservatives, see but cannot seem to explain.
Typically, they don't. Just a matter of context and terminology.

Mussolini's problem was that Italy was not ready for a real war. Adventures in Africa were one thing. War with England, France and eventually the US quite another.

[MMC]

Except one guy is the actual president of the United States and the others are fringe nuts.

Except that one guy comes and goes in 4-8 yrs. Whereas Maxine Waters has been around for 18 years. Then there is that Former first Lady and 2 timer loser. Pelosi and few other House members that have been around a decade or longer. Which don't count Holder types.

[MMC]

And right on schedule, a Repoublican runs to defend Trump's calls for violence, by making up stories of liberal violence. That's the point I keep making, and it keeps being proven.

See? He's just making stories up now.

The guy threatening the two senators over Kavanaugh was ... a white male Christian and registered Republican. And yet conservatives are all screaming he's a liberal. They'll say anything to justify their thuggery.

There's no equivalence. The conservative side is way more violent, as I keep demonstrating. Not a single conservative is willing to condemn Trump's calls for violence, and not a single one ever will, because they all adore the violence. That's why they're trying so hard to excuse it with phony stories of moral equivalency.

Of course Right on Schedule....making sure that the left can't ignore reality.

Oh and you should try and stay abreast of whats been in the News. You know keep up with it. Be in tune. On the Up and up. All of that type of stuff.


That way you would know about those 4 physical attacks and the threatening of rape and death to a Female Repub candidate. And wouldn't look foolish not knowing whats been in the news recently.

[mamooth]

All the people flying Nazi flags are loudly and proudly aligned with the right, yet the history-revisers here are still declaring that fascism is left wing. You can't make this stuff up. These people are just flat out rejecting the real world in favor of their ivory-tower fantasies.

Meanwhile, two of the Proud Boys were just arrested for violence behavior and assault, and the police are seeking 7 more.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kinsman-arrested-proud-boys-new-york-city-brawl-gavin-mcinnes-geoffrey-young/

And a Proud Boy mob just attacked the Pelosi campaign.

https://thesternfacts.com/miami-gop-chairman-just-caught-leading-proud-boys-in-attack-on-democratic-campaign-office-319216540f79

If any conservatives comment, it will be to will make more excuses. None of them will condemn the escalating conservative violence. That's a given, and that's why there is so much conservative violence. Conservatives see the violence as a feature. Seeing conservative jackboot thugs in action gives them a tingle up the leg. They actively desire more violence, so of course they won't condemn conservative violence.

[Hoosier8]

All the people flying Nazi flags are loudly and proudly aligned with the right, yet the history-revisers here are still declaring that fascism is left wing. You can't make this stuff up. These people are just flat out rejecting the real world in favor of their ivory-tower fantasies.

Meanwhile, two of the Proud Boys were just arrested for violence behavior and assault, and the police are seeking 7 more.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kinsman-arrested-proud-boys-new-york-city-brawl-gavin-mcinnes-geoffrey-young/

And a Proud Boy mob just attacked the Pelosi campaign.

https://thesternfacts.com/miami-gop-chairman-just-caught-leading-proud-boys-in-attack-on-democratic-campaign-office-319216540f79

If any conservatives comment, it will be to will make more excuses. None of them will condemn the escalating conservative violence. That's a given, and that's why there is so much conservative violence. Conservatives see the violence as a feature. Seeing conservative jackboot thugs in action gives them a tingle up the leg. They actively desire more violence, so of course they won't condemn conservative violence.
While Mamooth actively ignores the preponderance of violence from the left.

[Don29palms]

All the people flying Nazi flags are loudly and proudly aligned with the right, yet the history-revisers here are still declaring that fascism is left wing. You can't make this stuff up. These people are just flat out rejecting the real world in favor of their ivory-tower fantasies.

Meanwhile, two of the Proud Boys were just arrested for violence behavior and assault, and the police are seeking 7 more.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kinsman-arrested-proud-boys-new-york-city-brawl-gavin-mcinnes-geoffrey-young/

And a Proud Boy mob just attacked the Pelosi campaign.

https://thesternfacts.com/miami-gop-chairman-just-caught-leading-proud-boys-in-attack-on-democratic-campaign-office-319216540f79

If any conservatives comment, it will be to will make more excuses. None of them will condemn the escalating conservative violence. That's a given, and that's why there is so much conservative violence. Conservatives see the violence as a feature. Seeing conservative jackboot thugs in action gives them a tingle up the leg. They actively desire more violence, so of course they won't condemn conservative violence.
You can only kick a dog so many times until it fights back or dies. The liberal demonrats have started a fight that they won't win. It shouldn't be happening on either side but it is.

[Hoosier8]

Last week, the Dem spokesman in Minnesota said Republicans should be "brought to the guillotine."

[MMC]

All the people flying Nazi flags are loudly and proudly aligned with the right, yet the history-revisers here are still declaring that fascism is left wing. You can't make this stuff up. These people are just flat out rejecting the real world in favor of their ivory-tower fantasies.

Meanwhile, two of the Proud Boys were just arrested for violence behavior and assault, and the police are seeking 7 more.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kinsman-arrested-proud-boys-new-york-city-brawl-gavin-mcinnes-geoffrey-young/

And a Proud Boy mob just attacked the Pelosi campaign.

https://thesternfacts.com/miami-gop-chairman-just-caught-leading-proud-boys-in-attack-on-democratic-campaign-office-319216540f79

If any conservatives comment, it will be to will make more excuses. None of them will condemn the escalating conservative violence. That's a given, and that's why there is so much conservative violence. Conservatives see the violence as a feature. Seeing conservative jackboot thugs in action gives them a tingle up the leg. They actively desire more violence, so of course they won't condemn conservative violence.

Why would Conservatives condemn violence being done to those who broke the first golden rule. Sorry the Leftness don't get to break the rule then whine and cry about some moral equivalency nor preach about morals. Nor act like they have standards.

The left should have thought about that before they acted with their mobs and violence. With their Leaders inciting violence.


Now all there is.....is the last golden rule for the left to break. Which they will and then they get what they always wanted. But are not ready for.

[Chris]

All the people flying Nazi flags are loudly and proudly aligned with the right, yet the history-revisers here are still declaring that fascism is left wing. You can't make this stuff up. These people are just flat out rejecting the real world in favor of their ivory-tower fantasies.....


Still waiting for you to identify what characteristics of fascism were right wing in the real world.