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Peter1469
10-15-2018, 07:36 AM
Warren releases results of DNA test (https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2018/10/15/warren-addresses-native-american-issue/YEUaGzsefB0gPBe2AbmSVO/story.html)

Warren had a private lab, led by a greatly respected DNA doc and it turns out she has between 1/32 - 1/512 parts American Indian.


Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

Smith was born in the late 1700s. She identified as white in historical documents, though at the time Indians faced discrimination, and Smith would have had strong incentives to call herself white if possible.


The inherent imprecision of the six-page DNA analysis could provide fodder for Warren’s critics. If her great-great-great-grandmother was Native American, that puts her at 1/32nd American Indian. But the report includes the possibility that she’s just 1/512th Native American if the ancestor is 10 generations back.

Here is an article (http://genetics.ncai.org/tribal-enrollment-and-genetic-testing.cfm)about tribal enrollment and DNA testing. However most tribes currently do not accept DNA testing for tribal admission. Also, tribes have different standards in how much American Indian ancestry is needed. For instance the (https://www.theroot.com/how-do-i-legally-prove-native-american-ancestry-1790877932)Navajo Nation (http://www.navajo-nsn.gov/contact.htm) requires 1/4 Navajo ancestry. (https://www.theroot.com/how-do-i-legally-prove-native-american-ancestry-1790877932) Other nations, such as the Cherokee Nation (http://www.cherokee.org/Services/TribalCitizenship.aspx), require a documented lineage connecting the applicant to a direct ancestor who was listed on the Dawes Rolls. Others, such as the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe (http://sioux.org/enrollment-office.html), require that one of the parents of the applicant be an enrolled member.

Anyhow, Warren did this in preparation for a 2020 presidential run, should the midterms favor the dems.

Based on this test, the GOP would be wise to drop this issue and focus on Warren's policies. She is nutty enough on her own to taint an election with this issue.

Safety
10-15-2018, 07:45 AM
Now Trump should apologize for his mocking of her ancestry.

Peter1469
10-15-2018, 07:58 AM
Now Trump should apologize for his mocking of her ancestry.

He offered $1M to the charity of her choice if she took a DNA test and released the results.

Common
10-15-2018, 08:01 AM
1/512 ROFL I have more indian in me than her

Common
10-15-2018, 08:02 AM
Now Trump should apologize for his mocking of her ancestry.
No he shouldnt, he should tell her to kiss his ass along with the rest of the democrats that LIE about him every second of every day

Peter1469
10-15-2018, 08:03 AM
1/512 ROFL I have more indian in me than her

She claimed Cherokee ancestry. They don't accept DNA testing- you have to be on their special rolls.

Chris
10-15-2018, 08:42 AM
What does "between 1/32 - 1/512 parts" even mean? Is it a probability?

Peter1469
10-15-2018, 09:01 AM
What does "between 1/32 - 1/512 parts" even mean? Is it a probability?

The test is unclear which generation contributed to the American Indian DNA. If it was the 6th generation she would be 1/32. It looks like WaPo edited its article. Now it says if the American Indian ancestor was 10 generations ago, she would be 1/1024th American Indian, not 1/512.

Robo
10-15-2018, 09:36 AM
And being a smidgen indian makes her what? A Presidential candidate? Or just another leftist socialist?

nathanbforrest45
10-15-2018, 09:56 AM
And being a smidgen indian makes her what? A Presidential candidate? Or just another leftist socialist?
I'd go with leftist socialist myself.

Even 1/32 Native American shouldn't count for much, 1/512th would cover 99.9 percent of the American population

Besides, having a specific ancestry would only be pertinent if you were trying to get freebies from the government or a pass for your incompetence. Seems to me she is trying both paths.

Peter1469
10-15-2018, 10:00 AM
And being a smidgen indian makes her what? A Presidential candidate? Or just another leftist socialist?

Neither.

nathanbforrest45
10-15-2018, 10:25 AM
Neither.

The dominant economic system of the indigenous New World tribes was the barter system and a share and share alike distribution policy. The governmental system was chiefs and Indians, with a "tribal elder" system of "representatives" or advisers who achieved that position by dint of growing older. I would call this economic/political system either socialist or collectivist. I would put Princess Rabbitwarren in that same category

Lummy
10-15-2018, 06:24 PM
Warren's great great grandfather was half pixie, a quarter fairy and a quarter elf. Her great great grandmother was a troll, which is fairly obvious.

Captdon
10-15-2018, 06:30 PM
Now Trump should apologize for his mocking of her ancestry.

1/1024 is not ancestry. It's a joke. The Cherokees a blasted her for the fraud and deceit.They called her out for lying. They don't call her a Cherokee. They call her a user. She still owes the apology.

Captdon
10-15-2018, 06:34 PM
She claimed Cherokee ancestry. They don't accept DNA testing- you have to be on their special rolls.

They also demand 1/16 heritage. She isn't nay closer to being a Cherokee than I am to being a Mongol. (Austrian grandfather).

Captdon
10-15-2018, 06:39 PM
What does "between 1/32 - 1/512 parts" even mean? Is it a probability?

Generations. 1/32 makes 6 generations. 1/512 makes 9 generations. 1/1024 is 10 generations.

My wife is 15/32. Her grandmother was full; her grandfather was 7/8. He father was 15/16. That makes her 15/32.

She has never cared but she says Warrem is just an old white woman.

Captdon
10-16-2018, 08:55 AM
Orin Hatch released his DNA results today, it shows he is 1.1024 T Rex and the rest as various dinosaurs.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2018, 11:24 AM
Now Trump should apologize for his mocking of her ancestry.
Seriously?


She's the one who should admit that she misrepresented her ancestory and used it to gain an advantage over someone else. Also Harvard should apologize for representing her as a person of color in order to satisfy a diversity quota.


Instead she doubles down on stupidity and only a hard partisan hack would back her on this.

Safety
10-16-2018, 12:44 PM
Seriously?


She's the one who should admit that she misrepresented her ancestory and used it to gain an advantage over someone else. Also Harvard should apologize for representing her as a person of color in order to satisfy a diversity quota.


Instead she doubles down on stupidity and only a hard partisan hack would back her on this.

Trump should man up and pay the 1 million dollars he said he would if she released her DNA tests.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2018, 12:55 PM
Trump should man up and pay the 1 million dollars he said he would if she released her DNA tests.

You should admit that you are a hack.

Safety
10-16-2018, 12:57 PM
You should admit that you are a hack.

Just because you are one, doesn't mean others are. You didn't even start using the term hack until I started calling you one, learn to think for yourself sometimes, hack.

Don29palms
10-16-2018, 01:46 PM
You should admit that you are a hack.
Having a battle of wits with a demonrat liberal is fighting with an unarmed sheeple.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2018, 01:56 PM
Just because you are one, doesn't mean others are. You didn't even start using the term hack until I started calling you one, learn to think for yourself sometimes, hack.
Actually, you never used the word until I started calling you out. You expose yourself numerous times every day. These Elizabeth Warren threads are a perfect example. You are perhaps the only person on her side with this.

Don29palms
10-16-2018, 04:19 PM
Actually, you never used the word until I started calling you out. You expose yourself numerous times every day. These Elizabeth Warren threads are a perfect example. You are perhaps the only person on her side with this.

Facts don't matter to liberals.

Tahuyaman
10-16-2018, 04:53 PM
Facts don't matter to liberals.
They do to very few. He’s not one of them.