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Cigar
01-16-2013, 11:57 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/609624/thumbs/r-KOCH-BROTHERS-large570.jpg?2

Republicans intent on smashing through the debt ceiling in order to wring some spending concessions out of President Obama are finding themselves awfully lonely these days, but they've kept soldiering on. The latest ally to abandon them may be the toughest to ignore, though. The president of the group Americans For Prosperity, bankrolled by Charles G. and David H. Koch of Koch Industries, yesterday said the group wants spending cuts, but warned Republicans that screwing around with the debt ceiling (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/fdb387d4-5f3b-11e2-be51-00144feab49a.html#axzz2I2dW0ZLk) "makes the messaging more difficult," the Financial Times writes. The AFP president also warned Republicans not to be seen as "hostage takers." That's a marked change from the summer of 2011, when AFP objected to a debt-ceiling deal because it didn't cut spending enough, the FT notes.


This is way, way beyond former House Speaker Newt Gingrich telling House Republicans to give up on its debt-ceiling threat (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/newt-gingrich_n_2478280.html), like he did again yesterday. Newt's always rattling on about moon bases and zoos and stuff, so nobody listens to him. And certainly the House GOP doesn't care that Sen. Susan Collins (RINO-Maine) warned them to bow to the inevitable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/15/another-gop-senator-recognizes-the-inevitable/) and raise the debt ceiling, as she did yesterday. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (http://www.newsminer.com/news/politics/article_4311800e-5ef3-11e2-aa40-0019bb30f31a.html)(R-Alaska) and former Sen. Alan Simpson (https://twitter.com/CNBCClosingBell/status/291296149493669888) (R-DebtPanicStan) are a little tougher to take, but the cognitive dissonance arising from their debt-ceiling warnings is still manageable.


But the deep-pocketed Kochs are harder to ignore. Similar warnings recently from Tom Donohue of the Chamber of Commerce (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/11/business-leaders-to-gop-no-more-debt-limit-hostage-taking/), along with the Financial Services Roundtable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/09/business-leaders-failure-to-raise-debt-ceiling-will-drive-markets-haywire/), the Business Roundtable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/06/business-leaders-siding-with-obama-on-debt-ceiling/) and other job creators (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/26/15457023-private-sector-job-creators-warn-gop-on-debt-ceiling?lite), also can't be ignored. These people have all of the money. And if the economy goes off the cliff, as a new survey of economists strongly suggests it would (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/15/economists-dont-mess-around-with-the-debt-ceiling/) in a ceiling-breach, then these people will have less money available for campaign contributions. Game over.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/koch-brothers-debt-ceiling_n_2486191.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics

It's a great pleasure watching the Republicans party in their free-fall ... :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Uncle Slam
01-16-2013, 11:59 AM
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/609624/thumbs/r-KOCH-BROTHERS-large570.jpg?2

Republicans intent on smashing through the debt ceiling in order to wring some spending concessions out of President Obama are finding themselves awfully lonely these days, but they've kept soldiering on. The latest ally to abandon them may be the toughest to ignore, though. The president of the group Americans For Prosperity, bankrolled by Charles G. and David H. Koch of Koch Industries, yesterday said the group wants spending cuts, but warned Republicans that screwing around with the debt ceiling (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/fdb387d4-5f3b-11e2-be51-00144feab49a.html#axzz2I2dW0ZLk) "makes the messaging more difficult," the Financial Times writes. The AFP president also warned Republicans not to be seen as "hostage takers." That's a marked change from the summer of 2011, when AFP objected to a debt-ceiling deal because it didn't cut spending enough, the FT notes.


This is way, way beyond former House Speaker Newt Gingrich telling House Republicans to give up on its debt-ceiling threat (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/newt-gingrich_n_2478280.html), like he did again yesterday. Newt's always rattling on about moon bases and zoos and stuff, so nobody listens to him. And certainly the House GOP doesn't care that Sen. Susan Collins (RINO-Maine) warned them to bow to the inevitable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/15/another-gop-senator-recognizes-the-inevitable/) and raise the debt ceiling, as she did yesterday. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (http://www.newsminer.com/news/politics/article_4311800e-5ef3-11e2-aa40-0019bb30f31a.html)(R-Alaska) and former Sen. Alan Simpson (https://twitter.com/CNBCClosingBell/status/291296149493669888) (R-DebtPanicStan) are a little tougher to take, but the cognitive dissonance arising from their debt-ceiling warnings is still manageable.


But the deep-pocketed Kochs are harder to ignore. Similar warnings recently from Tom Donohue of the Chamber of Commerce (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/11/business-leaders-to-gop-no-more-debt-limit-hostage-taking/), along with the Financial Services Roundtable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/09/business-leaders-failure-to-raise-debt-ceiling-will-drive-markets-haywire/), the Business Roundtable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2012/12/06/business-leaders-siding-with-obama-on-debt-ceiling/) and other job creators (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/26/15457023-private-sector-job-creators-warn-gop-on-debt-ceiling?lite), also can't be ignored. These people have all of the money. And if the economy goes off the cliff, as a new survey of economists strongly suggests it would (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/15/economists-dont-mess-around-with-the-debt-ceiling/) in a ceiling-breach, then these people will have less money available for campaign contributions. Game over.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/koch-brothers-debt-ceiling_n_2486191.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics

It's a great pleasure watching the Republicans party in their free-fall ... :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Fuck the Coke Brothers too! Just more zillionaire American extortonists.

patrickt
01-16-2013, 02:13 PM
They aren't patriotic like George Soros.

Peter1469
01-16-2013, 03:29 PM
Anyone voting for raising the debt ceiling should be removed from office and thrown in jail for fraud.

GrumpyDog
01-17-2013, 04:22 AM
Billionaires and the secret society never lose. They just make you think they did. They will alwasy make money regardless of which candidate wins. They probably have bought Obama, just like they owned Mitt Romney.

For all we know,they might secretly like Obama, more than they like Mitt Romney.

Carygrant
01-17-2013, 07:24 AM
Billionaires and the secret society never lose. They just make you think they did. They will alwasy make money regardless of which candidate wins. They probably have bought Obama, just like they owned Mitt Romney.

For all we know,they might secretly like Obama, more than they like Mitt Romney.

Yes .
But in the circles I move , everybody likes Obama and completely ignores the other chap --- remind me of his name .

Chris
01-17-2013, 07:46 AM
Anyone notice how cigar's bitching about the koch bros has flipflopped to praise?