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exotix
11-01-2018, 11:31 AM
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Trump revives ‘Willie Horton’ tactic with ad linking illegal immigrant killer to Democrats

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1057728445386539008



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Common
11-01-2018, 11:32 AM
Truth is truth something that eludes democrats, they cant get the truth past their teeth

Illegal immigration is a scourge on this country, the saving grace is I find comfort that all the liberals offspring will suffer for it just like mine.

Captdon
11-01-2018, 11:33 AM
Don't like it when you get outsmarted.

Jesus, this guy bragged about killing people. What's wrong with you?

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 11:39 AM
The killer is obviously an evil dude who looks to be unredeemable. I'm not sure why liberals object to using this. He's very much relevant to one of the primary issues of the day.


Again, this is not an issue of race.

exotix
11-01-2018, 11:40 AM
Truth is truth something that eludes democrats, they cant get the truth past their teeth

Illegal immigration is a scourge on this country, the saving grace is I find comfort that all the liberals offspring will suffer for it just like mine.


Don't like it when you get outsmarted.

Jesus, this guy bragged about killing people. What's wrong with you?
The killer is obviously an evil dude who looks to be unredeemable. I'm not sure why liberals object to using this. He's very much relevant to one of the primary issues of the day.


Again, this is not an issue of race.

Bush Daddy ... in desperation ... posted this Political Ad ... and it got 'em elected ... because Klansman neo-nazi Lee Atwater was his campaign manager who came up with the idea ...

Here's the part you didn't hear ... it was Massachusetts Republican Governor Francis Sargent that created the Prison Release Program in which murderer Willie Horton went on weekend leave and committed more murders ..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o

Safety
11-01-2018, 12:24 PM
Bush Daddy ... in desperation ... posted this Political Ad ... and it got 'em elected ... because Klansman neo-nazi Lee Atwater was his campaign manager who came up with the idea ...

Here's the part you didn't hear ... it was Massachusetts Republican Governor Francis Sargent that created the Prison Release Program in which murderer Willie Horton went on weekend leave and committed more murders ..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o

Yep, you can tell Trump is getting desperate. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Hoosier8
11-01-2018, 01:04 PM
Libs just don't like facts, especially when it affects their favorite victim group, killer illegals.

exotix
11-01-2018, 01:06 PM
Libs just don't like facts, especially when it affects their favorite victim group, killer illegals.Buncha' crap because you're a brainwashed Trumphyte ... LOL



Alabama farmer says: If ya' wanna get rid of illegal immigrants, quit eatin'





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4gzps0lm1E

Hoosier8
11-01-2018, 01:08 PM
Buncha' crap because you're a brainwashed Trumphyte ... LOL



Alabama farmer says: If ya' wanna get rid of illegal immigrants, quit eatin'





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4gzps0lm1E
So basically you don't think murder is murder if an illegal alien does it.

Liberal logic 101.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 01:10 PM
Buncha' crap because you're a brainwashed Trumphyte ... LOL

Alabama farmer says: If ya' wanna get rid of illegal immigrants, quit eatin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4gzps0lm1E
Pay decent wages. Boot all illegals. All of them. Stop almost all immigration. We have enough people on welfare. We have way too many Democrats.

Chris
11-01-2018, 01:12 PM
At least he hasn't gone full retard like the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 01:17 PM
The killer is obviously an evil dude who looks to be unredeemable. I'm not sure why liberals object to using this. He's very much relevant to one of the primary issues of the day.


Again, this is not an issue of race.

It's an issue of fear and loathing.

exotix
11-01-2018, 01:24 PM
So basically you don't think murder is murder if an illegal alien does it.

Liberal logic 101.Again, Brainwashed Trumphyte ...


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Hoosier8
11-01-2018, 01:26 PM
Again, Brainwashed Trumphyte ...


https://res.cloudinary.com/luvckye9s/image/upload/v1541096654/Trump_murderers_wpmnpj.jpg

Thanks for proving my point.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 01:31 PM
It's an issue of fear and loathing.
It's an issue of respecting the law.

nathanbforrest45
11-01-2018, 01:31 PM
Does Exotix know the Willie Horton issue was first used by Al Gore Jr. and not by George HW Bush, just as the issue of Barack Obama's US citizenship was first broached by Hillary Rodham Clinton.

exotix
11-01-2018, 01:38 PM
Does Exotix know the Willie Horton issue was first used by Al Gore Jr. and not by George HW Bush, just as the issue of Barack Obama's US citizenship was first broached by Hillary Rodham Clinton.You mean in the Dem primaries ?



Here's your Cult Messiah doing his in the (R) Primaries ... LOL



http://i.imgur.com/bQKerMu.gif

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 01:42 PM
Does Exotix know the Willie Horton issue was first used by Al Gore Jr. and not by George HW Bush, just as the issue of Barack Obama's US citizenship was first broached by Hillary Rodham Clinton.Gore used it first when he was campaigning against Dukakis for the Democratic nomination. Yes, the hacks conveniently forgot about that. Still, there was nothing inaccurate or out of line with using the issue.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 01:43 PM
Statistically speaking whites have more to fear from other whites when it comes to crime than they do from illegal immigrants

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 01:45 PM
It's an issue of respecting the law.

In addition to stoking fear when it's not warranted. It's the Chicken Little approach.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 01:47 PM
The ability to secure our borders and control who we let in the country is a valid and important issue. There is nothing improper or out of line by showing what the consequences of unregulated immigration can be.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 01:49 PM
In addition to stoking fear when it's not warranted. It's the Chicken Little approach.

Don't you support securing our borders and controlling who we allow to live in this country?

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 01:50 PM
Statistically speaking whites have more to fear from other whites when it comes to crime than they do from illegal immigrants

It has nothing to do with race. Why are you making this about skin color?

exotix
11-01-2018, 01:56 PM
The ability to secure our borders and control who we let in the country is a valid and important issue. There is nothing improper or out of line by showing what the consequences of unregulated immigration can be.


Don't you support securing our borders and controlling who we allow to live in this country?Why ? Because its the only platform you can run on ... fear and loathing ?




https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx



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Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 01:58 PM
We need to ignore the liberal whiners and do what's best for everyone. Even they benefit from that. They are just too deep into the partisan hack hole to know it.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 02:00 PM
Why ? Because its the only platform you can run on ... fear and loathing ?




https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx



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I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with that, but I am sure that it didn't make the point that you hoping for.

exotix
11-01-2018, 02:02 PM
We need to ignore the liberal whiners and do what's best for everyone. Even they benefit from that. They are just too deep into the partisan hack hole to know it.
I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with that, but I am sure that it didn't make the point that you hoping for.
Yeah uh huh ...



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ripmeister
11-01-2018, 02:07 PM
Don't you support securing our borders and controlling who we allow to live in this country?

I do. I just don't think we need to send 15K army soldiers to the border to stop a dwindling caravan of Central Americans that are currently hundreds of miles from our border. It's a stunt and the sky is
not falling

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 02:09 PM
It has nothing to do with race. Why are you making this about skin color?
I'm not about the issue in and of itself but we all know this message is targeted to Trumps base and their fear of The Other.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 02:18 PM
I'm not about the issue in and of itself but we all know this message is targeted to Trumps base and their fear of The Other.

Now you just proved that you have nothing of substance to support your position.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 02:20 PM
Yeah uh huh ...



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You really go through a lot of contortions. Gumby couldn't twist and turn like that.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 02:21 PM
I do. I just don't think we need to send 15K army soldiers to the border to stop a dwindling caravan of Central Americans that are currently hundreds of miles from our border. It's a stunt and the sky is
not falling

Yes, it is a stunt but it has a purpose. Wise up, sir.

Don29palms
11-01-2018, 02:22 PM
I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with that, but I am sure that it didn't make the point that you hoping for.

She never has any clue what she's talking about other than she hates Trumpf whoever Trumpf is.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 02:22 PM
It's amazing. They're always telling us they are not for open borders but find themselves on the open borers side on every specific issue.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 02:27 PM
Statistically speaking whites have more to fear from other whites when it comes to crime than they do from illegal immigrants
I do not want my America changed into a mixture of warring third world nations.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 02:39 PM
She never has any clue what she's talking about other than she hates Trumpf whoever Trumpf is.
He.... exo is a he. Believe it or not.

exotix
11-01-2018, 02:41 PM
I do not want my America changed into a mixture of warring third world nations.Is that a joke ?


LOL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoCcGq31gNU

Don29palms
11-01-2018, 03:18 PM
He.... exo is a he. Believe it or not.
Ok. I don't believe it but ok.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 03:22 PM
Yes, it is a stunt but it has a purpose. Wise up, sir.

That purpose being to gin up his political base on a Chicken Little basis?

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 03:23 PM
I do not want my America changed into a mixture of warring third world nations.

Neither do I.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 03:24 PM
I do. I just don't think we need to send 15K army soldiers to the border to stop a dwindling caravan of Central Americans that are currently hundreds of miles from our border. It's a stunt and the sky is
not falling


The caravan is not dwindling. They are branching off. Some are now heading for San Diego while others are heading for Texas. Plus there are three more behind them.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 03:27 PM
I do. I just don't think we need to send 15K army soldiers to the border to stop a dwindling caravan of Central Americans that are currently hundreds of miles from our border. It's a stunt and the sky is not falling
Whatever you think or fail to think of it, catch and release is over. Anchor babies will soon be over. The Democratic party will be a two state party, California and New York.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 03:43 PM
Ok. I don't believe it but ok.
Take my word for it. He’s a troubled “he”.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 03:49 PM
Whatever you think or fail to think of it, catch and release is over. Anchor babies will soon be over. The Democratic party will be a two state party, California and New York.
I probably actually agree with you and those like you more than you think on many of these immigration issues. Where we most likely differ is how we deal with them. I don't think we need to resort to histrionics and demonization of others, playing on people's fears or misperceptions simply for political gain.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 04:25 PM
I probably actually agree with you and those like you more than you think on many of these immigration issues. Where we most likely differ is how we deal with them. I don't think we need to resort to histrionics and demonization of others, playing on people's fears or misperceptions simply for political gain.
I think we should resort to securing the border and being selective about who we let have the privilege of living here.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 04:26 PM
I think we should resort to securing the border and being selective about who we let have the privilege of living here.
I would agree for the most part. Of course where the rubber meets the road is how you define selective.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 04:39 PM
I would agree for the most part. Of course where the rubber meets the road is how you define selective. one needs to have a skill and a legitimate plan as to how they will support them self and or their family.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 04:48 PM
one needs to have a skill and a legitimate plan as to how they will support them self and or their family.

What about a true political refugee seeking asylum regardless of the things you mention? Should they be considered?

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 04:57 PM
What about a true political refugee seeking asylum regardless of the things you mention? Should they be considered?

On a true case by case basis. Just because one makes the claim that they are seeking political asylum, doesn't necessarily make it so.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 05:12 PM
I probably actually agree with you and those like you more than you think on many of these immigration issues. Where we most likely differ is how we deal with them. I don't think we need to resort to histrionics and demonization of others, playing on people's fears or misperceptions simply for political gain.
Right. You want us to go quietly into the night. That is not going to happen.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 05:15 PM
That purpose being to gin up his political base on a Chicken Little basis?

No, that purpose being to see if your type of insouciance prevails.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 05:17 PM
I probably actually agree with you and those like you more than you think on many of these immigration issues. Where we most likely differ is how we deal with them. I don't think we need to resort to histrionics and demonization of others, playing on people's fears or misperceptions simply for political gain.

Whenever it comes to making a stand in a specific instance you're on the wrong side.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:18 PM
On a true case by case basis. Just because one makes the claim that they are seeking political asylum, doesn't necessarily make it so.

Agreed

Mister D
11-01-2018, 05:18 PM
Right. You want us to go quietly into the night. That is not going to happen.

Yes, he does. They're a deceitful bunch.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 05:20 PM
Whenever it comes to making a stand in a specific instance you're on the wrong side.
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. :-)

He is consistent.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:34 PM
Right. You want us to go quietly into the night. That is not going to happen.
No, I just want you to be rational and have some humanity.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:36 PM
No, that purpose being to see if your type of insouciance prevails.

I'll have to look that word up.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:38 PM
Whenever it comes to making a stand in a specific instance you're on the wrong side.
We'll see how history judges

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:40 PM
Yes, he does. They're a deceitful bunch.

Accuse me of what you will but not deceipt. I have always been honest about my point on view with you

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:41 PM
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. :-)

He is consistent.

As are you. Oh well.

ripmeister
11-01-2018, 05:43 PM
I was wondering how long it would take the two of you to go to your default MO

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 05:58 PM
No, I just want you to be rational and have some humanity.Humanity isn't demonstrated by allowing everyone to come here and leech off of our generosity.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 05:58 PM
No, I just want you to be rational and have some humanity.
Do not concern yourself with me. I am fine. You are the dangerous one.

Chris
11-01-2018, 06:06 PM
Humanity isn't found in intentions but in consequences.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 06:13 PM
Humanity isn't found in intentions but in consequences.
It also isn't demonstrated by increasing the size of the dependent class.

Chris
11-01-2018, 06:15 PM
It also isn't demonstrated by increasing the size of the dependent class.

Which to some is well-intentioned, but the consequences may not be.

Dr. Who
11-01-2018, 07:21 PM
Pay decent wages. Boot all illegals. All of them. Stop almost all immigration. We have enough people on welfare. We have way too many Democrats.
Even at $100 a day, most Americans won't pick crops. At that price they can get easier work and even if they can't they aren't healthy enough to do that kind of work. Furthermore, look at the farmer. Sixty to seventy years ago you wouldn't see a fat farmer. Farms are now heavily subsidized and even farmers don't actually want to do the kind of work that farmers did in the past. They will sit on their tractors, but get some immigrant or migrant to do the back-breaking work. If you boot all the illegals and don't come up with another plan, America will starve.

Common
11-01-2018, 07:32 PM
Even at $100 a day, most Americans won't pick crops. At that price they can get easier work and even if they can't they aren't healthy enough to do that kind of work. Furthermore, look at the farmer. Sixty to seventy years ago you wouldn't see a fat farmer. Farms are now heavily subsidized and even farmers don't actually want to do the kind of work that farmers did in the past. They will sit on their tractors, but get some immigrant or migrant to do the back-breaking work. If you boot all the illegals and don't come up with another plan, America will starve.

I agree with you doc, that you couldnt get enough americans to pick crops but we do not have to have open borders and caravans and sanctuary cities to get enough immigrants LEGALLY to pick crops.

Theres one flaw with your thinking many crops do not need pickers anymore there are far less crop pickers needed than in years past, automation has hit the farm industy in a very big way and MUCH of our fruit and produce comes from mexico, quatemala, peru far more imported produce than even 10 yrs ago.

We can easily fulfill the need for immigrant labor LEGALLY, whats happening at our border is absolutely bad for our country bad for ALL americans black white and hispanic and its ripping a hole in our debt.

Now we have caravans telling US WE WILL GET IN THE USA, and that attitude has been promoted by liberal Rhetoric on open borders and sanctuary cities, the LEFT OWNS IT.

All the excuses for illegal immigration are totally bogus crap, the left wants them here for two reasons. To dilute the population and for democrat votes, they are willing to destroy the quality of life for their own kids for political gain.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 07:39 PM
Even at $100 a day, most Americans won't pick crops. At that price they can get easier work and even if they can't they aren't healthy enough to do that kind of work. Furthermore, look at the farmer. Sixty to seventy years ago you wouldn't see a fat farmer. Farms are now heavily subsidized and even farmers don't actually want to do the kind of work that farmers did in the past. They will sit on their tractors, but get some immigrant or migrant to do the back-breaking work. If you boot all the illegals and don't come up with another plan, America will starve.

Automation and guest worker programs. Pick lettuce. Go go home. Come back next season.

Japan gets robots. We get Mexicans.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 07:40 PM
America will starve lol

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 07:40 PM
As are you. Oh well.
I am consistent until the known facts change.

Admiral Ackbar
11-01-2018, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=Safety;2451821]Yep, you can tell Trump is getting desperate. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Discussion of immigration and how to handle it is an appropriate topic for discussion. Sorry it bothers you.

MisterVeritis
11-01-2018, 07:41 PM
Even at $100 a day, most Americans won't pick crops. At that price they can get easier work and even if they can't they aren't healthy enough to do that kind of work. Furthermore, look at the farmer. Sixty to seventy years ago you wouldn't see a fat farmer. Farms are now heavily subsidized and even farmers don't actually want to do the kind of work that farmers did in the past. They will sit on their tractors, but get some immigrant or migrant to do the back-breaking work. If you boot all the illegals and don't come up with another plan, America will starve.
I am willing to risk it.

Chris
11-01-2018, 07:42 PM
Even at $100 a day, most Americans won't pick crops. At that price they can get easier work and even if they can't they aren't healthy enough to do that kind of work. Furthermore, look at the farmer. Sixty to seventy years ago you wouldn't see a fat farmer. Farms are now heavily subsidized and even farmers don't actually want to do the kind of work that farmers did in the past. They will sit on their tractors, but get some immigrant or migrant to do the back-breaking work. If you boot all the illegals and don't come up with another plan, America will starve.

So to you most Americans are sickly, fat and lazy.

Hoosier8
11-01-2018, 07:44 PM
So to you most Americans are sickly, fat and lazy.

Or entitled liberals.

Dr. Who
11-01-2018, 08:15 PM
So to you most Americans are sickly, fat and lazy.
Those who would be looking for or only eligible for that kind of work are unlikely to be fit enough to do the job. The fittest people in society are generally either very young or sufficiently well-off to go to the gym and only buy healthy food - i.e. not looking for jobs picking potatoes. Look at the guy from Mexico who is a picker - he has pretty much zero fat on his body and has been doing back-breaking hard work his whole life. He probably started as a child. Do you honestly think that there are many Americans who even if they were fit enough, wouldn't find better-paying work? Construction work pays better and it's not nearly as seasonal.

Hoosier8
11-01-2018, 08:37 PM
My first wife's parents used to pick cotton. People do what is necessary to feed their families unless you think Mexicans are smarter than the average American that needs work.

Common
11-01-2018, 08:40 PM
Those who would be looking for or only eligible for that kind of work are unlikely to be fit enough to do the job. The fittest people in society are generally either very young or sufficiently well-off to go to the gym and only buy healthy food - i.e. not looking for jobs picking potatoes. Look at the guy from Mexico who is a picker - he has pretty much zero fat on his body and has been doing back-breaking hard work his whole life. He probably started as a child. Do you honestly think that there are many Americans who even if they were fit enough, wouldn't find better-paying work? Construction work pays better and it's not nearly as seasonal.
I agree with everything you said doc you are just right about all of it. However, none of that is any reason to allow illegal immigrants to flood the country, we dont need illegals to pick crops.

Doc crop pickers as an excuse for immigrant labor is a moot issue. Theres less and less pickers needed everyday and theres MILLIONS of illegals that wont pick crops and dont.

They are taking construction and food industry jobs from americans and forcing the wages down across the board because they work for nothing. Is that right doc ? is that fair to american workers is that fair to american citizens.

There are many crops that dont need pickers anymore and theres more and more added to the list all the time like cranberries and lima beans. Apples arent all hand picked anymore, illegals are NOT running over the border to pick crops doc, they are coming here for the free ride the sanctuary cities the free health care and anything else they can grab.

Orlando has become all hispanic disney has laid off workers and hired new for less pay, my new neighbor behind me moved there from Kissimee he worked in disney he was a skilled mechanic repaired all moving rides and exhibitions, he was let go along with others and new hired for less pay. IS THAT RIGHT DOC

Illegals are murdering the construction and landscaping industry by working for peanuts and driving salaries down. THE liberal press does not tell us the truth about the impact of these millions of illegals in our country and running into it.

Doc down the road liberals are going to regret what they have enabled to happen for political gain

Dr. Who
11-01-2018, 09:50 PM
I agree with everything you said doc you are just right about all of it. However, none of that is any reason to allow illegal immigrants to flood the country, we dont need illegals to pick crops.

Doc crop pickers as an excuse for immigrant labor is a moot issue. Theres less and less pickers needed everyday and theres MILLIONS of illegals that wont pick crops and dont.

They are taking construction and food industry jobs from americans and forcing the wages down across the board because they work for nothing. Is that right doc ? is that fair to american workers is that fair to american citizens.

There are many crops that dont need pickers anymore and theres more and more added to the list all the time like cranberries and lima beans. Apples arent all hand picked anymore, illegals are NOT running over the border to pick crops doc, they are coming here for the free ride the sanctuary cities the free health care and anything else they can grab.

Orlando has become all hispanic disney has laid off workers and hired new for less pay, my new neighbor behind me moved there from Kissimee he worked in disney he was a skilled mechanic repaired all moving rides and exhibitions, he was let go along with others and new hired for less pay. IS THAT RIGHT DOC

Illegals are murdering the construction and landscaping industry by working for peanuts and driving salaries down. THE liberal press does not tell us the truth about the impact of these millions of illegals in our country and running into it.

Doc down the road liberals are going to regret what they have enabled to happen for political gain
I have said before that those who illegally hire undocumented migrants should be made to pay the piper, but Americans don't want to actually pay the price for basic goods and services at American wages. They want to pay far less, particularly where food is concerned. That's really why State governments turn a blind eye to illegal labor. In the rest of the western world, food isn't cheap nor are services like landscaping, gardening and renovations. It's a case of wanting your cake and eating it. Don't blame that on the liberal press. If people suddenly had to start paying the true cost of unsubsidized agriculture without illegal labor, people would be rioting in the streets.

Abby08
11-01-2018, 10:12 PM
Americans will not starve if illegals are all sent back, for one thing, how many do you think are actually working in the produce fields? That isn't why they're here, they're here for the welfare, not to work... even they won't pick crops for a legitimate living.

Second, crop harvesting is done, in large part, by machinery.

The American people aren't so dumb and lazy, as to let themselves starve, if there are no more illegals .

Get real.

Abby08
11-01-2018, 10:15 PM
I have said before that those who illegally hire undocumented migrants should be made to pay the piper, but Americans don't want to actually pay the price for basic goods and services at American wages. They want to pay far less, particularly where food is concerned. That's really why State governments turn a blind eye to illegal labor. In the rest of the western world, food isn't cheap nor are services like landscaping, gardening and renovations. It's a case of wanting your cake and eating it. Don't blame that on the liberal press. If people suddenly had to start paying the true cost of unsubsidized agriculture without illegal labor, people would be rioting in the streets.

Oh please. Get real.

Mister D
11-01-2018, 10:16 PM
I love it when Dr. Who parrots corporate propaganda.

Dr. Who
11-01-2018, 10:32 PM
Oh please. Get real.
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/agriculture/subsidies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/in-an-immigration-crackdown-who-will-pick-our-produce/2017/03/17/cc1c6df4-0a5d-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.2eadc0eefb26

Abby08
11-01-2018, 10:39 PM
You really think Americans are gonna starve, rather than pay a little more for food?

Most Americans don't want illegals here, I believe they'd take that trade off.

Tahuyaman
11-01-2018, 10:57 PM
Well, they should go after those who hire illegals. I doubt that it would cause a remarkable increase in prices.

Captdon
11-02-2018, 09:19 AM
Bush Daddy ... in desperation ... posted this Political Ad ... and it got 'em elected ... because Klansman neo-nazi Lee Atwater was his campaign manager who came up with the idea ...

Here's the part you didn't hear ... it was Massachusetts Republican Governor Francis Sargent that created the Prison Release Program in which murderer Willie Horton went on weekend leave and committed more murders ..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o

He was "paroled" for a week-end and raped and murdered until they caught him again. That's your poster boy, Exo. You must be so proud.

ripmeister
11-02-2018, 10:12 AM
Humanity isn't demonstrated by allowing everyone to come here and leech off of our generosity.
I know of no one who has said allow everyone.

Tahuyaman
11-02-2018, 10:21 AM
I know of no one who has said allow everyone.

Many do. Pay attention.

ripmeister
11-02-2018, 10:54 AM
Many do. Pay attention.
Who?

Abby08
11-02-2018, 11:16 AM
Who?

There's a couple of them, right here!

Tahuyaman
11-02-2018, 11:29 AM
Who?Leftists who advocate open borders.