Unedited Video Clearly Shows Accosta Put His Hands on WH Intern, MORE THAN ONCE

[Grokmaster]

We realize that the frothy-mouthed left condones violence against women, (Keith Ellison, etc. )but stop trying to tell us not to believe our OWN EYES:






https://youtu.be/864xfxQ0ME0?t=2

[Sergeant Gleed]

I do recall when the bodyguard of Pocahontas did a full body-slam on a reporter...
...the media were dead silent about that.

[Tahuyaman]

I do recall when the bodyguard of Pocahontas did a full body-slam on a reporter...
...the media were dead silent about that.

When was that?

[)))Marc(((]

Is mr "accosta" associated with a culture that disrespects Women? Video shows the "gentleman" clearly invading the Lady's personal space.

[Common]

Even if he didnt touch her he needed his credentials pulled, he went to the briefings with the mindset to disrupt and be rude and demanding for well over a year. Enough is enough

[stjames1_53]

Being a rude and obnoxious reporter is one thing. And there is no doubt Acosta was exactly that. His MO is to try and take over WH briefings, often times interrupting other reporters by shouting over them, or taking pushing his question after being responded to. He would pose questions in this manner that were outside of a WH briefing.
It didn't matter what Trump of Sanders replied, he went ahead and misrepresented every answer they would give and "report" whatever and however he wanted. But mostly, he lied.
He's no journalist in every definition and sense of the word. He wanted to control the briefings.
Here's the rub folks, as much as people don't like what happened, being a WH reporter and invited to attend these briefings, isn't a Right. It is a privilege. No president is obligated nor required by law to allow press briefings. It is only a long standing relationship between the Oval Office and the press. Hell, even Obama practiced his own brand of controlling the press while he was in office, as was his Right to do so.
So if you scream and wail at Trump, remember, it is still a privilege practiced as a president sees fit, not Acosta or any reporter.
They are free to "report" the "news" as they wont to do. Their 1st Amendment Right has nor been denied or restricted. Not even under the Law and no court will ever rule in their favor over this.
Trump and Sanders didn't need his permission, he needed theirs.

[roadmaster]

Trump has put up with rude reporters before many times. It's a natural instinct for many men to get upset when they think a woman is being treated wrong. You could tell he was offended by the way she was treated by Jim.

[Safety]

Trump has put up with rude reporters before many times. It's a natural instinct for many men to get upset when they think a woman is being treated wrong. You could tell he was offended by the way she was treated by Jim.

Bwhahahahahahahaha

“Look at his wife compared to mine”
“Horse face”
“Grab them by the p*ssy”

Bwhahahahahahahaha

:rofl:

[Cletus]

Even if he didnt touch her he needed his credentials pulled, he went to the briefings with the mindset to disrupt and be rude and demanding for well over a year. Enough is enough

Exactly.

[)))Marc(((]

Just another example of the cultural mysogyny illustrated by "accosters" non European background.

[Common]

Bwhahahahahahahaha

“Look at his wife compared to mine”
“Horse face”
“Grab them by the p*ssy”

Bwhahahahahahahaha

:rofl:

How about that ellison beating on his wife and getting away with it and democrats ELECTED HIM bet there was metoo frauds in there too

[Safety]

Just another example of the cultural mysogyny illustrated by "accosters" non European background.


Which pales (pun not intended) in comparison to Trumps misogyny and he is of European background....

:rofl:

[Safety]

How about that ellison beating on his wife and getting away with it and democrats ELECTED HIM bet there was metoo frauds in there too

You have a link depicting Ellison “beating on his “wife””?

[)))Marc(((]

The DOJ ran by eric "witholder" , had no choice. Crime figures against White Women were released. Guess what?

[exotix]

Even if he didnt touch her he needed his credentials pulled ...


... he went to the briefings with the mindset to disrupt and be rude and demanding ...


... for well over a year. Enough is enoughI'm sure this is outlined in the 1st Amendment.

[countryboy]

We realize that the frothy-mouthed left condones violence against women, (Keith Ellison, etc. )but stop trying to tell us not to believe our OWN EYES:






https://youtu.be/864xfxQ0ME0?t=2

From now on, I will refer to him as "Jim Acost-ya".

[countryboy]

You have a link depicting Ellison “beating on his “wife””?
I thought we were to believe women? Why would you need a link? Isn't the accusation evidence enough?

[Grokmaster]

I'm sure this is outlined in the 1st Amendment.

There is no 1st Amendment "right" to be allowed into White House pressers to behave like an asshole....the JACKASS Acosta got what he sorely deserved.

[Safety]

I thought we were to believe women? Why would you need a link? Isn't the accusation evidence enough?

It’s not that difficult, I asked for a link where Keith Ellison is accused of “beating on his wife”. It’s easy to make baseless accusations, it’s hard to back it up when it’s a lie.

[Mini Me]

Bwhahahahahahahaha

“Look at his wife compared to mine”
“Horse face”
“Grab them by the p*ssy”

Bwhahahahahahahaha

:rofl:
She was Accosta-ed! hahaha

[Mini Me]

Voila! RWNJ's have invented a new bogeyman!

So many to choose from, I lost my scorecard!

[countryboy]

It’s not that difficult, I asked for a link where Keith Ellison is accused of “beating on his wife”. It’s easy to make baseless accusations, it’s hard to back it up when it’s a lie.

Lol, have you been under a rock? This is common knowledge. Ask your mom for help.

[Safety]

Lol, have you been under a rock? This is common knowledge. Ask your mom for help.

Evidently, because instead of providing a link to back up the claim that Ellison beat on his wife, you are angrily deflecting. Why even respond if you have nothing? Maybe you and Common should not try to lie about things.

[Chris]

Evidently, because instead of providing a link to back up the claim that Ellison beat on his wife, you are angrily deflecting. Why even respond if you have nothing? Maybe you and Common should not try to lie about things.

It is common knowledge. It's all over the Interweb, just search.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/13/638199556/congressman-accused-of-domestic-abuse-by-former-girlfriend "The allegation that the physical abuse was caught on video was posted to Facebook late Saturday night by the woman's son, days before Minnesota's primary election, where Ellison is facing off against four other Democrats for the open state attorney general's seat."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dkNjHheAc8

[Safety]

It is common knowledge. It's all over the Interweb, just search.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/13/638199556/congressman-accused-of-domestic-abuse-by-former-girlfriend "The allegation that the physical abuse was caught on video was posted to Facebook late Saturday night by the woman's son, days before Minnesota's primary election, where Ellison is facing off against four other Democrats for the open state attorney general's seat."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dkNjHheAc8

So, where in the link you provided does it allege Ellison beat on his wife? The same allegation that was presented originally by Common and the same allegation that countryboy failed to prove as well?

Let me know when you find it, for I would be most interested in reading it. Hopefully you do find it, because otherwise, it could be said that the three of you were lying....

[Green Arrow]

Lies. More lies. He tried to avoid touching her at least three times, and when he did finally make contact it was accidental, a reflex move when she went to yank the mic. At this point y’all are just running cover to avoid having to admit the administration lied it’s ass off.

[Captain Obvious]

Who cares.

Fucking dopes, all if you.

[stjames1_53]

I'm sure this is outlined in the 1st Amendment.

is it? Where? otherwise, it's just another claim by you that something that is, isn't

[nathanbforrest45]

I have come to the conclusion that Democrats of all stripes are basically braindead sheep who will only believe what their masters tell them to believe and will never trust their own lying eyes unless its cleared by the authorities.

[Safety]

24685

[Chris]

So, where in the link you provided does it allege Ellison beat on his wife? The same allegation that was presented originally by Common and the same allegation that countryboy failed to prove as well?

Let me know when you find it, for I would be most interested in reading it. Hopefully you do find it, because otherwise, it could be said that the three of you were lying....

""The allegation that the physical abuse was ca...' Oh, what's the use. You deny what's in front of your eyes.

[DGUtley]

I am not an Acosta fan. I am not a fan of how Trump talks about the media. I like that he fights back but he doesn't have to be so unpresidential about it. I don't think that what Acosta did was hitting a woman or assaulting a woman. Physically, it didn't appear to me to be much of anything. Let's not make more out of it than it is.

I don't know the answer of whether pulling the credentials violates the First Amendment. I would lean towards yes, but I haven't researched it.

[Chris]

I am not an Acosta fan. I am not a fan of how Trump talks about the media. I like that he fights back but he doesn't have to be so unpresidential about it. I don't think that what Acosta did was hitting a woman or assaulting a woman. Physically, it didn't appear to me to be much of anything. Let's not make more out of it than it is.

Agree, pretty much so. Acosta wasn't very professional either. WIth Trump, it's just who he is, and it drives many over the edge.

[Hoosier8]

The media are only talking about the video and not Acosta’s insistence to hog the spotlight and hurl insults.

[Safety]

""The allegation that the physical abuse was ca...' Oh, what's the use. You deny what's in front of your eyes.

So, you concede that there is no allegation that Ellison beat on his wife. Nothing you or the other two have alleged has been shown to support your allegation. That is very dishonest on y’alls part, and should be condemned wholly by tPF, and a public apology from all of you should be given at your earliest convenience.

[Common]

Woman accusing Rep. Keith Ellison of abuse speaks outhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/karen-monahan-woman-accusing-rep-keith-ellison-of-abuse-speaks-out-2018-08-16/

[Hoosier8]

So, you concede that there is no allegation that Ellison beat on his wife. Nothing you or the other two have alleged has been shown to support your allegation. That is very dishonest on y’alls part, and should be condemned wholly by tPF, and a public apology from all of you should be given at your earliest convenience.
Two women, progressives, made the accusations against Ellison’s violence.

[Safety]

Woman accusing Rep. Keith Ellison of abuse speaks outhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/karen-monahan-woman-accusing-rep-keith-ellison-of-abuse-speaks-out-2018-08-16/

Where in the link does it show Keith Ellison accused of beating on his wife? That was your accusation.


Two women, progressives, made the accusations against Ellison’s violence.

Another one joins the fray, but still is not able to provide any link or source to show Ellison beat on his wife that was originally claimed.

[Chris]

Where in the link does it show Keith Ellison accused of beating on his wife? That was your accusation.



Another one joins the fray, but still is not able to provide any link or source to show Ellison beat on his wife that was originally claimed.


Did you notice how you moved the goalposts from "accused of beating on his wife" to "Ellison beat on his wife"?

[Hoosier8]

Where in the link does it show Keith Ellison accused of beating on his wife? That was your accusation.



Another one joins the fray, but still is not able to provide any link or source to show Ellison beat on his wife that was originally claimed.
Defending Ellison’s violence against women? Not surprised.

[Ethereal]

Two women, progressives, made the accusations against Ellison’s violence.

Were either of them his wife?

[Ethereal]

Defending Ellison’s violence against women? Not surprised.
Defending outright lies? Not surprised.

[Hoosier8]

Defending outright lies? Not surprised.

#NotMeToo eh? Now it is don’t believe the women?

[Safety]

Did you notice how you moved the goalposts from "accused of beating on his wife" to "Ellison beat on his wife"?

Ok, I parsed my response in haste, so let me correct it. Show links or a source that confirms Keith Ellison is accused of beating on his wife.

[Safety]

Were either of them his wife?


You win the mother fucking chicken dinner!

[Ethereal]

#NotMeToo eh? Now it is don’t believe the women?
Were either of the women his wife as was claimed by Common and others? No? Then that makes you all liars, doesn't it?

[Safety]

#NotMeToo eh? Now it is don’t believe the women?

You might want to rethink your participation in this thread. Ignorance is no excuse.

[Common]

Safety

Keith Ellison’s accuser says with proof, Dem party smears, doubts her – cry for Kavanaugh’s head, with nonehttps://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/09/18/keith-ellisons-accuser-says-with-proof-dem-party-smears-doubts-her-cry-for-kavanaughs-head-with-none-675162

Rep. Keith Ellison's Ex-Partner Shares Medical Record Supporting Abuse Allegations https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/09/210730/keith-ellison-karen-monahan-domestic-violence-medical-records


Another woman accused Dem Rep Ellison of abusehttps://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/the-pursuit-of-happiness/content/2018-08-16-another-woman-accused-dem-rep-ellison-of-abuse/

[Safety]

Were either of the women his wife as was claimed by Common and others? No? Then that makes you all liars, doesn't it?

That’s what it does. Let’s see if any have the scruples to apologize.

[Common]

Safety Hes a pos and a follower butt sniffer of FairyCan

Keith Ellison’s accuser says with proof, Dem party smears, doubts her – cry for Kavanaugh’s head, with none

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/09/18/keith-ellisons-accuser-says-with-proof-dem-party-smears-doubts-her-cry-for-kavanaughs-head-with-none-675162

Rep. Keith Ellison's Ex-Partner Shares Medical Record Supporting Abuse Allegations

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/09/210730/keith-ellison-karen-monahan-domestic-violence-medical-records


Another woman accused Dem Rep Ellison of abuse

https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/the-pursuit-of-happiness/content/2018-08-16-another-woman-accused-dem-rep-ellison-of-abuse/

[Safety]

Safety

Keith Ellison’s accuser says with proof, Dem party smears, doubts her – cry for Kavanaugh’s head, with nonehttps://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/09/18/keith-ellisons-accuser-says-with-proof-dem-party-smears-doubts-her-cry-for-kavanaughs-head-with-none-675162

Rep. Keith Ellison's Ex-Partner Shares Medical Record Supporting Abuse Allegations https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/09/210730/keith-ellison-karen-monahan-domestic-violence-medical-records


Another woman accused Dem Rep Ellison of abusehttps://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/the-pursuit-of-happiness/content/2018-08-16-another-woman-accused-dem-rep-ellison-of-abuse/

Which one was his wife? Surely you can show proof of your claim?

[Ethereal]

@Safety (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1226)

Keith Ellison’s accuser says with proof, Dem party smears, doubts her – cry for Kavanaugh’s head, with none

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/09/18/keith-ellisons-accuser-says-with-proof-dem-party-smears-doubts-her-cry-for-kavanaughs-head-with-none-675162

Rep. Keith Ellison's Ex-Partner Shares Medical Record Supporting Abuse Allegations

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/09/210730/keith-ellison-karen-monahan-domestic-violence-medical-records


Another woman accused Dem Rep Ellison of abuse

https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/the-pursuit-of-happiness/content/2018-08-16-another-woman-accused-dem-rep-ellison-of-abuse/
You claimed that Ellison's WIFE made the accusation. Are any of those women Ellison's WIFE, Common? Or are you just a damn liar?

[DGUtley]

C'mon guys -- it clearly wasn't his wife. Let's get back on topic?

[Chris]

Were either of them his wife?


Is that what all this nonsense is about?

[Safety]

Is that what all this nonsense is about?

Oh, it wasn’t nonsense when you went all in defending the slander.

[Ethereal]

C'mon guys -- it clearly wasn't his wife.

So why won't these clowns just admit it?


Let's get back on topic?

They're the ones who brought it up and refuse to admit to their mistake, just like they refuse to admit that Acosta never made inappropriate contact with that White House personnel.

[Safety]

C'mon guys -- it clearly wasn't his wife. Let's get back on topic?


It is a bigger issue that just it not being his wife. It’s about how easy it is to post false information and have it spread like wildfire just because of confirmation bias. So many thanked and defended the false allegation, because they want to believe it.

[Safety]

So why won't these clowns just admit it?



They're the ones who brought it up and refuse to admit to their mistake, just like they refuse to admit that Acosta never made inappropriate contact with that White House personnel.

Do you see a pattern, Acosta is accused of assaulting/manhandling an intern, which didn’t happen, but the Trump sycophants eat it hook, line, and sinker. Then a deflection attempt is brought up claiming Ellison beat on his wife, and yet, the same salivating belief that it was true based upon belief perseverance.

[AZ Jim]

Technically the woman in grabbing the mic committed battery.

[Ethereal]

Do you see a pattern, Acosta is accused of assaulting/manhandling an intern, which didn’t happen, but the Trump sycophants eat it hook, line, and sinker. Then a deflection attempt is brought up claiming Ellison beat on his wife, and yet, the same salivating belief that it was true based upon belief perseverance.
They will parrot any lie Trump feeds them, no matter how embarrassing or fallacious it may be.

[Chris]

So why won't these clowns just admit it?



They're the ones who brought it up and refuse to admit to their mistake, just like they refuse to admit that Acosta never made inappropriate contact with that White House personnel.


Why wasn't it simply pointed out it wasn't his wife but girlfriend Ellison physically abused? I mean other than that would not be an effective way to derail the thread.

[Green Arrow]

I am not an Acosta fan. I am not a fan of how Trump talks about the media. I like that he fights back but he doesn't have to be so unpresidential about it. I don't think that what Acosta did was hitting a woman or assaulting a woman. Physically, it didn't appear to me to be much of anything. Let's not make more out of it than it is.

I don't know the answer of whether pulling the credentials violates the First Amendment. I would lean towards yes, but I haven't researched it.
DGUtley - And what about the administration knowingly sharing a doctored video of the incident to support their blatant lie that he assaulted the intern?

Genuinely interested in your opinion, you are one of the few conservatives here that I respect a great deal.

[DGUtley]

@DGUtley (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=2019) - And what about the administration knowingly sharing a doctored video of the incident to support their blatant lie that he assaulted the intern? Genuinely interested in your opinion, you are one of the few conservatives here that I respect a great deal.

If it happened (I haven't followed, so don't know whether it did or didn't), it's despicable. I think it is despicable to lie. I think it is despicable to hide, conceal, fabricate, alter or destroy evidence. The entire system breaks down if this happens -- and the system is so much more important than any one individual, administration, moment in time, etc.. It is incumbent on the lawyers to make sure that evidence is retained. I write "evidence hold" letters to clients as a matter of course. When evidence goes missing, the other side is entitled to an instruction to the jury that the missing evidence is entitled to be construed as being harmful to the opposing party -- and we have a separate and independent cause of action for spoliation of evidence.

[Hoosier8]

Were either of the women his wife as was claimed by Common and others? No? Then that makes you all liars, doesn't it?

Did I say they were?

Ellison claimed his wife beat him. LOL

[Tahuyaman]

Bwhahahahahahahaha

“Look at his wife compared to mine”
“Horse face”
“Grab them by the p*ssy”

Bwhahahahahahahaha

:rofl:

Which does not justify Acosta continually being disruptive and boorish.

[Common Sense]

I guess boorish is only a quality people like in presidents.

[stjames1_53]

If it happened (I haven't followed, so don't know whether it did or didn't), it's despicable. I think it is despicable to lie. I think it is despicable to hide, conceal, fabricate, alter or destroy evidence. The entire system breaks down if this happens -- and the system is so much more important than any one individual, administration, moment in time, etc.. It is incumbent on the lawyers to make sure that evidence is retained. I write "evidence hold" letters to clients as a matter of course. When evidence goes missing, the other side is entitled to an instruction to the jury that the missing evidence is entitled to be construed as being harmful to the opposing party -- and we have a separate and independent cause of action for spoliation of evidence.

there is supposed to be a process for asking questions at a briefing. The "journalist" gets a question, which may or not be answered, depending. Then they are to relinquish the mic for the next questioner. Proper decorum at a presser with the president.

It all started when CNN’s Acosta got into a heated debate with Trump after he asked the president about the migrant caravan.
“Honestly, I think you should let me run the country and you run CNN,” the president said, resulting in the intern attempting to retrieve the microphone.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sarah-sanders-accused-of-circulating-doctored-video-of-jim-acostas-interaction-with-white-house-intern
No one disagrees with this. Acosta had his turn with the mic, and it was suppose to be handed to the next.
Acosta cannot rewrite the rules of decorum. He refused to give the mic up when it was the next guy's turn.
I must reiterate, that mic did not belong to Acosta. He had no legal claim to it. The intern was following protocol. He literally yanked it back from the intern, more tasteless decorum by Acosta.
Acosta thinks he runs the WHPC. He screams over other reporters, interrupts them, refuses to take his turn as the rest do. He is rude and obnoxious, not just to Sanders or Trump, but to the rest of the WHPC.
It is their [WH] press conference, not his. Being there is a privilege, not a Right.
When he denied/prevented her from taking the mic away, even with a touch to prevent it, it became a simple case of battery, and you law dogs know this.
Look, Acosta has been begging for this. He has been on his rag since Trump got elected, and we all know this. When you hunt for trouble, you'll usually find it.
He should have acted better and should have been more considerate of the intern.
When you are a guest in someone else's house, you should behave like one. Being a member of the press corp is a privilege, not a Right, again.

[Chris]

DGUtley - And what about the administration knowingly sharing a doctored video of the incident to support their blatant lie that he assaulted the intern?....

There's accusations and denials and nothing known of Sanders's intent. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/sarah-sanders-accused-of-sharing-doctored-jim-acosta-video/10480486

[Safety]

Why wasn't it simply pointed out it wasn't his wife but girlfriend Ellison physically abused? I mean other than that would not be an effective way to derail the thread.

Considering it was brought into the discussion as a derail attempt, you chose to ignore it and continue the false narrative. So, for you to even fix your mouth to say something is derailing anything is utterly stupid and consistent with your participation in every thread at tPF.

[Chris]

Considering it was brought into the discussion as a derail attempt, you chose to ignore it and continue the false narrative. So, for you to even fix your mouth to say something is derailing anything is utterly stupid and consistent with your participation in every thread at tPF.

Incoherent.

[Safety]

Incoherent.

Pretty simple English sentence structure, proper use of punctuation, and proper grammar, but you are unable to comprehend it...yea, that’s an issue that you need to address.

[Chris]

Pretty simple English sentence structure, proper use of punctuation, and proper grammar, but you are unable to comprehend it...yea, that’s an issue that you need to address.

Yes, it was incoherent. You figure it out, get back to me when you have.

[Safety]

Yes, it was incoherent. You figure it out, get back to me when you have.

Oh, I figured it out, it is the usual attempt you employ when you have been exposed doing the exact thing you constantly accuse others of doing.

[stjames1_53]

Incoherent.

wtf is he whining about now?

[Chris]

Oh, I figured it out, it is the usual attempt you employ when you have been exposed doing the exact thing you constantly accuse others of doing.

No, it was just incoherent, and now you're dragging things down your bicker'ole. So long. :wave:

[Chris]

wtf is he whining about now?

:dontknow:

[Safety]

No, it was just incoherent, and now you're dragging things down your bicker'ole. So long. :wave:

I take that as your usual M.O. when you have nothing as a rebuttal.

[Captdon]

I am not an Acosta fan. I am not a fan of how Trump talks about the media. I like that he fights back but he doesn't have to be so unpresidential about it. I don't think that what Acosta did was hitting a woman or assaulting a woman. Physically, it didn't appear to me to be much of anything. Let's not make more out of it than it is.

I don't know the answer of whether pulling the credentials violates the First Amendment. I would lean towards yes, but I haven't researched it.

Let us know what part of the First Amendment gives anyone the right to attend a news briefing. I'd really be interested. There are a lot of bloggers who would love to go to them.

If it is a violation . Trump should call the briefings off. I know he doesn't have to answer anyone's questions. Whatever it makes him look like really doesn't matter. It never did.

[Captdon]

Defending Ellison’s violence against women? Not surprised.

If Ellison was a white Republican, Safety would be all over this. So would women's groups.

[Green Arrow]

there is supposed to be a process for asking questions at a briefing. The "journalist" gets a question, which may or not be answered, depending. Then they are to relinquish the mic for the next questioner. Proper decorum at a presser with the president.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sarah-sanders-accused-of-circulating-doctored-video-of-jim-acostas-interaction-with-white-house-intern
No one disagrees with this. Acosta had his turn with the mic, and it was suppose to be handed to the next.
Acosta cannot rewrite the rules of decorum. He refused to give the mic up when it was the next guy's turn.
I must reiterate, that mic did not belong to Acosta. He had no legal claim to it. The intern was following protocol. He literally yanked it back from the intern, more tasteless decorum by Acosta.
Acosta thinks he runs the WHPC. He screams over other reporters, interrupts them, refuses to take his turn as the rest do. He is rude and obnoxious, not just to Sanders or Trump, but to the rest of the WHPC.
It is their [WH] press conference, not his. Being there is a privilege, not a Right.
When he denied/prevented her from taking the mic away, even with a touch to prevent it, it became a simple case of battery, and you law dogs know this.
Look, Acosta has been begging for this. He has been on his rag since Trump got elected, and we all know this. When you hunt for trouble, you'll usually find it.
He should have acted better and should have been more considerate of the intern.
When you are a guest in someone else's house, you should behave like one. Being a member of the press corp is a privilege, not a Right, again.

And now the goalposts get moved.

[Green Arrow]

There's accusations and denials and nothing known of Sanders's intent. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/sarah-sanders-accused-of-sharing-doctored-jim-acosta-video/10480486

Sanders was in the room, as was Trump. They both saw what happened and they knew Acosta did not intentionally lay hands on the intern or otherwise try to harm her. Claiming otherwise is a bold-faced lie.

[Tahuyaman]

If Ellison was a white Republican, Safety would be all over this. So would women's groups.
That's true, it I'm not sure how it's relevant to the issue here.

[Green Arrow]

Incoherent.

It was coherent, you just dislike what was said. I understood it perfectly.

[Captdon]

Defending outright lies? Not surprised.

The Hate America Liberal-terian. You are getting confused during your political change operation.

[Tahuyaman]

Sanders was in the room, as was Trump. They both saw what happened and they knew Acosta did not intentionally lay hands on the intern or otherwise try to harm her. Claiming otherwise is a bold-faced lie.


Of course Acosta did not physically assault her, but he did attempt a sort of intimidation and many on the left will associate that with an assault. He acted foolishly and unprofessionally.

[Captdon]

Technically the woman in grabbing the mic committed battery.

No, she didn't. She was retrieving government property. Geez, take longer naps.

[Tahuyaman]

I guess boorish is only a quality people like in presidents.. There's always one who supports the concept of "two wrongs make a right".

[Chris]

Sanders was in the room, as was Trump. They both saw what happened and they knew Acosta did not intentionally lay hands on the intern or otherwise try to harm her. Claiming otherwise is a bold-faced lie.

Wow, everything you disagree with is a lie. Sort of poisons the well.

Ignoring that, we simply do not know what Sanders intended. The WH may only do certain video formats and she just grabbed one without checking it. We do not know. We can speculate but we can't argue from unknowns.

[Tahuyaman]

It was coherent, you just dislike what was said. I understood it perfectly.
The first sentence in the comment was and that's where he should have left it. But, he didn't.

[DGUtley]

Let us know what part of the First Amendment gives anyone the right to attend a news briefing. I'd really be interested. There are a lot of bloggers who would love to go to them. If it is a violation . Trump should call the briefings off. I know he doesn't have to answer anyone's questions. Whatever it makes him look like really doesn't matter. It never did.

To me, (again, I haven't researched it), it represents an attempt by the government to chill the free press. The press has the right to attend council meetings, courts, and (I think) press briefings. The thing I'm held up on is whether where you have an obstructive and obnoxious press member the government can prevent that particular person's participation. I honestly don't know. Look, we want the press there. I would not want President Harris preventing a fox reporter from asking the tough questions and kicking her out when she does; but when said reporter gets obnoxious (really obnoxious) I don't know. I would lean towards: The Freedom of the Press entails the press has the right to designate its representatives within limits.

[Chris]

It was coherent, you just dislike what was said. I understood it perfectly.

It was incoherent. Or you'd explain it. But go ahead and tell me what I think as if you know.

[Green Arrow]

Of course Acosta did not physically assault her, but he did attempt a sort of intimidation and many on the left will associate that with an assault. He acted foolishly and unprofessionally.

He didn’t do that either. He mostly ignored her and tried repeatedly to avoid making contact.

[Green Arrow]

Wow, everything you disagree with is a lie. Sort of poisons the well.

That is not even close to true.

[Captdon]

There's accusations and denials and nothing known of Sanders's intent. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/sarah-sanders-accused-of-sharing-doctored-jim-acosta-video/10480486

ABC's video. It's clear that doucehead pushed her arm away. Now, I guess ABC is on Trump's side. what an amazing turn of events. This deserves two sources:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/sarah-sanders-accused-of-sharing-doctored-jim-acosta-video/10480486

Courtesy of Chris and Captdon. You're welcome, libs.

[Tahuyaman]

To me, (again, I haven't researched it), it represents an attempt by the government to chill the free press. The press has the right to attend council meetings, courts, and (I think) press briefings. The thing I'm held up on is whether where you have an obstructive and obnoxious press member the government can prevent that particular person's participation. I honestly don't know. Look, we want the press there. I would not want President Harris preventing a fox reporter from asking the tough questions and kicking her out when she does; but when said reporter gets obnoxious (really obnoxious) I don't know. I would lean towards: The Freedom of the Press entails the press has the right to designate its representatives within limits.


And the press still has this right. CNN still has the right to send anyone they choose as long as it's not Acosta. Freedom of the press has not been stifled.

[Green Arrow]

It was incoherent. Or you'd explain it. But go ahead and tell me what I think as if you know.

You mean like you telling me that I think everything I disagree with is a lie?

Go ahead, try and squirm away from that one.

[Chris]

https://i.snag.gy/S7NsfO.jpg

[Chris]

You mean like you telling me that I think everything I disagree with is a lie?

Go ahead, try and squirm away from that one.


You told me whatever I replied that disagreed with you would be a lie. Don't poison the well if you don't like the effects.

[Tahuyaman]

He didn’t do that either. He mostly ignored her and tried repeatedly to avoid making contact.


No. He did not act in a professional manner. His intent was to disrupt. He was looking to create a confrontation.

[Chris]

ABC's video. It's clear that doucehead pushed her arm away. Now, I guess ABC is on Trump's side. what an amazing turn of events. This deserves two sources:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/sarah-sanders-accused-of-sharing-doctored-jim-acosta-video/10480486

Courtesy of Chris and Captdon. You're welcome, libs.

It could be said the c-span video shows him pushing her arm down and away. The video on the right was slightly altered. We don't know if Acosta intended it just as we don't know why Sanders used the altered video, though some like to imagine they know what others think.

[Captdon]

Pretty simple English sentence structure, proper use of punctuation, and proper grammar, but you are unable to comprehend it...yea, that’s an issue that you need to address.

"something is derailing anything is utterly stupid"- by safety. Post#69

Proper grammar?

[Captdon]

Sanders was in the room, as was Trump. They both saw what happened and they knew Acosta did not intentionally lay hands on the intern or otherwise try to harm her. Claiming otherwise is a bold-faced lie.

Now it's gone from it didn't happen to it wasn't deliberate. He had no right to do it. It wasn't his mic.

[Safety]

Wow, everything you disagree with is a lie. Sort of poisons the well.

Ignoring that, we simply do not know what Sanders intended. The WH may only do certain video formats and she just grabbed one without checking it. We do not know. We can speculate but we can't argue from unknowns.

Give me a fucking break. Everything that you don’t agree with you bring up “we don’t know their intentions”, it’s old and tired. Sanders released an edited video, then lied that Acosta assaulted the intern.

Now, if you were the type of person that would challenge every accusation of lying with the same vigorous defense as you seem to do when a select few here use the term, that would be one thing, but that hasn’t happened yet, so you can save that bullshit.

[Safety]

"something is derailing anything is utterly stupid"- by safety. Post#69

Proper grammar?


You are embarrassing yourself.

[Captdon]

That's true, it I'm not sure how it's relevant to the issue here.

To Ellison? Safety? You know it as well as I do. What thread are you reading?

[Tahuyaman]

To Ellison? Safety? You know it as well as I do. What thread are you reading?

The thread pertaining to the unprofessional conduct of Jim Acosta.

[Captdon]

You are embarrassing yourself.

This is proper grammar. See, you learned to pay attention to how you write. Now, that wasn't too hard for you to do.You're welcome.

[Chris]

Give me a fucking break. Everything that you don’t agree with you bring up “we don’t know their intentions”, it’s old and tired. Sanders released an edited video, then lied that Acosta assaulted the intern.

Now, if you were the type of person that would challenge every accusation of lying with the same vigorous defense as you seem to do when a select few here use the term, that would be one thing, but that hasn’t happened yet, so you can save that bullshit.

Break...

https://i.postimg.cc/sxKwPPbs/giphy-4.gif

[Captdon]

The thread pertaining to the unprofessional conduct of Jim Acosta.

Start with Post 11 and go from there. Not my thread.

[Green Arrow]

You told me whatever I replied that disagreed with you would be a lie. Don't poison the well if you don't like the effects.

I never said that. Post the quote.

[Green Arrow]

No. He did not act in a professional manner. His intent was to disrupt. He was looking to create a confrontation.

That may be but the only thing he did wrong with the intern was refusing to give up the mic.

[Green Arrow]

Now it's gone from it didn't happen to it wasn't deliberate. He had no right to do it. It wasn't his mic.

That is not correct. What I said is that an intentional assault did not happen. The only connection between the two was accidental. Those two statements are not exclusive.

[The Xl]

I have no use for Mr Accosta or most of the bought and paid for media, but there was literally nothing there in this instance. No reason to make something of nothing. Really, both sides of this coin are pretty fucking ridiculous .

[Tahuyaman]

That may be but the only thing he did wrong with the intern was refusing to give up the mic.


I never claimed he assaulted her. I said he acted unprofessionally and foolishly. I said his intent was to disrupt and create a confrontation. Do you disagree with me on any of those points? If your answer is yes, please state why.

[Captdon]

That is not correct. What I said is that an intentional assault did not happen. The only connection between the two was accidental. Those two statements are not exclusive.

You're correct. I apologize.

I still stand by my saying he was in the wrong and he did push her arm away. He had no right to do that.

[Chris]

Sanders was in the room, as was Trump. They both saw what happened and they knew Acosta did not intentionally lay hands on the intern or otherwise try to harm her. Claiming otherwise is a bold-faced lie.


You told me whatever I replied that disagreed with you would be a lie. Don't poison the well if you don't like the effects.


I never said that. Post the quote.

[Green Arrow]

I never claimed he assaulted her. I said he acted unprofessionally and foolishly. I said his intent was to disrupt and create a confrontation. Do you disagree with me on any of those points? If your answer is yes, please state why.

No, and half-no. I don’t think it was his intent to disrupt, but I don’t have any evidence to support that. Just my opinion based on personal evaluation. Your opinion that it was his intention is valid.

[Green Arrow]

You're correct. I apologize.

I still stand by my saying he was in the wrong and he did push her arm away. He had no right to do that.

That’s fair. I disagree. From what I can tell, his arm making contact with hers was accidental.

[Green Arrow]

Chris, note first that none of the words you attributed to me were in that post.

Now, let’s dig in. Which names were mentioned in that post?

[Grokmaster]

That may be but the only thing he did wrong with the intern was refusing to give up the mic.

Blind? He shoved her hands away, as well...the punk.

[Grokmaster]

That is not correct. What I said is that an intentional assault did not happen. The only connection between the two was accidental. Those two statements are not exclusive.

Oh...his hands placed themselves aggressivley on the intern of their own accord...

[Green Arrow]

Oh...his hands placed themselves aggressivley on the intern of their own accord...
His hands never touched her. His arm did, and that was clearly (IMO) accidental.

[Dr. Who]

We realize that the frothy-mouthed left condones violence against women, (Keith Ellison, etc. )but stop trying to tell us not to believe our OWN EYES:






https://youtu.be/864xfxQ0ME0?t=2
If that's what you deem to be assault, then I get assaulted several times a week on public transit - at least a couple of hundred times a year and often far more forcefully than that. It's a veritable crime wave that no one noticed.

[Grokmaster]

If that's what you deem to be assault, then I get assaulted several times a week on public transit - at least a couple of hundred times a year and often far more forcefully than that. It's a veritable crime wave that no one noticed.

See the Ellisonites defending Acosta's PHYSICAL ABUSE of the female intern...

[Grokmaster]

His hands never touched her. His arm did, and that was clearly (IMO) accidental.

Blind? 1:41. That thing at the end of his arm...is called a "hand".



https://youtu.be/864xfxQ0ME0

[Ethereal]

See the Ellisonites defending Acosta's PHYSICAL ABUSE of the female intern...
The only people who believe physical abuse took place are Trump cultists.

[Ethereal]

Oh...his hands placed themselves aggressivley on the intern of their own accord...
What do you hope to accomplish by repeating these risible falsehoods? Do you think anyone besides Trump's cult are going to find this persuasive?

[Dr. Who]

See the Ellisonites defending Acosta's PHYSICAL ABUSE of the female intern...
In this day and age, you really need to be careful what you define as physical abuse - it could come back to bite you.

[Ransom]

In this day and age, you really need to be careful what you define as physical abuse - it could come back to bite you.
Exactly. Look how it made Dr. Ford, the entire Democrat Senate cabal, and her immediate believers look the political hacks and gullible idiots.

[The Xl]

The only people who believe physical abuse took place are Trump cultists.

Anyone who this that physical abuse occurred here is either insane or completely delusional.

[Grokmaster]

What do you hope to accomplish by repeating these risible falsehoods? Do you think anyone besides Trump's cult are going to find this persuasive?
If you deem it allright for a man do do such things to a woman, fine.

I don't.

[Ransom]

The pu55y has been banned from the White House because he's an idiot not for this irrelevant incident.

[Grokmaster]

In this day and age, you really need to be careful what you define as physical abuse - it could come back to bite you.

If a man did that to my wife, he would sustain a prolonged assault.

See the Ellisonites defending misogyny...AGAIN.

[Green Arrow]

Blind? 1:41. That thing at the end of his arm...is called a "hand".



https://youtu.be/864xfxQ0ME0
LOL your video isn’t even 1:41 long. Try again.

[Grokmaster]

LOL your video isn’t even 1:41 long. Try again.

Excuse me, at 18 seconds.

Anything to DODGE the embarrassing fact that he shoved her hands away from the mike that was hers to take.

[Green Arrow]

Excuse me, at 18 seconds.

Anything to DODGE the embarrassing fact that he shoved her hands away from the mike that was hers to take.

Incorrect, again. His hands never touch her at that point. Want to try again? They say the third time’s the charm.

[DGUtley]

It was a nothing encounter, IMHO. Two 'mine is bigger than yours' types squaring off to a draw. Trump will lose b/c he took on the Fourth Estate.

[donttread]

We realize that the frothy-mouthed left condones violence against women, (Keith Ellison, etc. )but stop trying to tell us not to believe our OWN EYES:






https://youtu.be/864xfxQ0ME0?t=2

It looks like he barely touched as she tried to rip the microphone out of his hands. Equal rights and all. Trump calling someone rude is priceless.

[MisterVeritis]

It was a nothing encounter, IMHO. Two 'mine is bigger than yours' types squaring off to a draw. Trump will lose b/c he took on the Fourth Estate.
What do you think would change? Would the Trump stories go from 92% bad to 90% bad?

[Chris]

It was a nothing encounter, IMHO. Two 'mine is bigger than yours' types squaring off to a draw. Trump will lose b/c he took on the Fourth Estate.


Could've fooled me with the heated arguments about wife v girlfriend, hand v arm throughout the day. It was just Trump being Trump, unsurprising anymore, and the media being the news, hardly surprising anymore either.

[Chris]

It looks like he barely touched as she tried to rip the microphone out of his hands. Equal rights and all. Trump calling someone rude is priceless.

Ripped!?!? Looks more like he ripped her dress sleeve. :D

https://i.snag.gy/qRiOYU.jpg

[Grokmaster]

Incorrect, again. His hands never touch her at that point. Want to try again? They say the third time’s the charm.

Blind, obviously. he was to HAND HER THE MIKE instead of shoving her hands away....

[Grokmaster]

It was a nothing encounter, IMHO. Two 'mine is bigger than yours' types squaring off to a draw. Trump will lose b/c he took on the Fourth Estate.

Except for the COMBATIVE CONTACT with the intern....the former "Fourth Estate" is now the FIFTH COLUMN, and less trusted than the POTUS.

[Common Sense]

Lol...combative contact.

[Green Arrow]

Blind, obviously. he was to HAND HER THE MIKE instead of shoving her hands away....
HE DID NOT SHOVE HER HAND AWAY. You cannot present any un-doctored clip or image from that incident to support that claim. The ONLY time he touched her was a clearly accidental tap from arm to arm.

[Tahuyaman]

Good gawd people. Just admit that he didn’t assault the young woman, but acted unprofessionally and foolishly.

[Captdon]

It was a nothing encounter, IMHO. Two 'mine is bigger than yours' types squaring off to a draw. Trump will lose b/c he took on the Fourth Estate.

No, he won't. The press will scream and yell but Trump gets that everyday. Acosta has no more right there than any political blogger. he isn't special. CNN can put someone else in his place.

His career is shot. What else does CNN need him for?

[Dangermouse]

Except for the COMBATIVE CONTACT with the intern....the former "Fourth Estate" is now the FIFTH COLUMN, and less trusted than the POTUS.

The "combative contact" came from the extra frames inserted into the government fake news version of events. How many bones did he break with those vicious "karate chops"?

[Tahuyaman]

Technically the woman in grabbing the mic committed battery.


I wish that was meant as a joke, but I'm sure it wasn't.