51.7% of kids live in households getting govt welfare

[Common]

The Census Bureau has released new data that strengthens the case for calling the current generation of American children “The Welfare Generation (https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/521-percent-kids-live-households-getting-means-tested-government).”

Among American residents under 18 years of age in 2017, according to the Census Bureau (https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/cps-pov/pov-26.2017.html), 51.7 percent lived in households in which one or more persons received benefits from a means-tested government program.
That was down slightly from the 52.1 percent of Americans under 18 in 2016 (https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/521-percent-kids-live-households-getting-means-tested-government) who lived in households receiving means-tested government assistance. (Also, because this new Census Bureau estimate is for 2017, it predates the significant economic and job growth the United States has seen in 2018).
But in each of the last five years on record (2013 through 2017), according to the Census Bureau, at least 51 percent of Americans under 18 have lived in households receiving means-tested government assistance.


https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/welfare-generation-kids-households-getting-government-assistance-drop

[Captdon]

Too much welfare.

[HawkTheSlayer]

Even with improved job growth the numbers will not move.
You can't make folks that don't want to work, work.

[Abby08]

Even with improved job growth the numbers will not move.
You can't make folks that don't want to work, work.

You can, if it's work, or, get your benefits cut off.

Amazing, how many people will then choose to get a job.

[Abby08]

It's ridiculous, how many people receive some form of welfare, when they're perfectly capable of working... even more ridiculous, that our government allows it.

Should be, get into a job training program and, wean yourself off of welfare, say, in two years time, or, get cut off completely.

[gamewell45]

You can, if it's work, or, get your benefits cut off.

Amazing, how many people will then choose to get a job.

So, if they don't work then they get their benefits cut off; so what happens to the kids (who are innocents in this) do they just starve?

[gamewell45]

It's ridiculous, how many people receive some form of welfare, when they're perfectly capable of working... even more ridiculous, that our government allows it.

Should be, get into a job training program and, wean yourself off of welfare, say, in two years time, or, get cut off completely.

Some people are not trainable; others have mental issues and some are perfectly capable of working; the question is there enough jobs to employ these people?

[Green Arrow]

You can, if it's work, or, get your benefits cut off.

Amazing, how many people will then choose to get a job.


Even with improved job growth the numbers will not move.
You can't make folks that don't want to work, work.

Right, because nobody receiving welfare works.

[Abby08]

Right, because nobody receiving welfare works.

Some do, sure, but, too many who are capable, don't.

[Abby08]

Some people are not trainable; others have mental issues and some are perfectly capable of working; the question is there enough jobs to employ these people?

I did say, people who are able... untrainable? How, why, are these people, ' untrainable?' if it's due to mental issues, that would fall under, not able.

Even people with mental issues, are capable of doing something to help support themselves, anyone who IS able, should contribute to their support.

There are always jobs, of some kind, for people who are interested.

[Hoosier8]

So, if they don't work then they get their benefits cut off; so what happens to the kids (who are innocents in this) do they just starve?
One would think like past immigrants that came to this country before welfare that working to feed your family would be the answer.

[Abby08]

So, if they don't work then they get their benefits cut off; so what happens to the kids (who are innocents in this) do they just starve?

Give only enough to cover food for the children... period...if the parent/s are able to work, but don't....yes, after 2 years, cut off all benefits, if the recipients haven't complied with a job training program.... welfare was never designed/intended to be a career...it was designed to give a helping hand, temporarily, not a lifelong handout.

[Abby08]

One would think like past immigrants that came to this country before welfare that working to feed your family would be the answer.

It used to be, but, it got too easy to sit back, collect whatever benefits the government is willing to give and, just not worry about supporting your kids, when taxpayers will do it...albeit, unwillingly.

[Captdon]

So, if they don't work then they get their benefits cut off; so what happens to the kids (who are innocents in this) do they just starve?

We can feed them in food centers if that's what it takes. It would be cheaper.

[Adelaide]

This includes things like educational programs aimed towards low-income students. I think a lot of people are assuming it is only food stamps, welfare cheques, and medicare. It also includes job training for the unemployed. There are 79 programs that fall under means-tested government assistance.

Ironically, it would just be cheaper to give every low income family a full salary than to pay for all of those programs.

[Common]

Some people are not trainable; others have mental issues and some are perfectly capable of working; the question is there enough jobs to employ these people?
Im betting most of those kids were born here of illegal immigrants and they get welfare for the kid

[Green Arrow]

This includes things like educational programs aimed towards low-income students. I think a lot of people are assuming it is only food stamps, welfare cheques, and medicare. It also includes job training for the unemployed. There are 79 programs that fall under means-tested government assistance.

Ironically, it would just be cheaper to give every low income family a full salary than to pay for all of those programs.

That’s essentially the idea behind Universal Basic Income (UBI).

[Captain Obvious]

It buys votes.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. ... From that moment on, the majority always votes for the canidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy--to be followed by a dictatorship.”

[Tahuyaman]

Some people are not trainable; others have mental issues and some are perfectly capable of working; the question is there enough jobs to employ these people?


Right now? Yes.

[The Xl]

Everything is getting more and more expensive relative to how it used to be. Society simply doesn't function anymore, and that fact is going to become increasingly apparent as time goes on. That's not to say many of the younger generation aren't lazy, but that's merely one variable at play.

[Green Arrow]

Everything is getting more and more expensive relative to how it used to be. Society simply doesn't function anymore, and that fact is going to become increasingly apparent as time goes on. That's not to say many of the younger generation aren't lazy, but that's merely one variable at play.
Don’t forget, in the midst of those price increases, wages have stagnated. So the cost of living has gotten more expensive but wages have not kept the pace.

[Captain Obvious]

Don’t forget, in the midst of those price increases, wages have stagnated. So the cost of living has gotten more expensive but wages have not kept the pace.

uhh... no, you're still thinking the O'bammy era of shrinking living standards and smoke and mirrors

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46072979

US wage growth hits nine-year high

[Green Arrow]

uhh... no, you're still thinking the O'bammy era of shrinking living standards and smoke and mirrors

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46072979

US wage growth hits nine-year high

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/?amp=1

[Captain Obvious]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/?amp=1

And...

[Green Arrow]

And...

I mean, the article was pretty clear. Relative to inflation and the cost of living wages have not grown that much since the 1970s.

[Mister D]

And...

And the obvious takeaway here is that diversity is our strength. What the article does is avoid the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

[Captain Obvious]

I mean, the article was pretty clear. Relative to inflation and the cost of living wages have not grown that much since the 1970s.

Right, it's lagging. Showing the O'bammy era trenddoesnt support your point. That trend is turning around.

Highest wage growth in 9 years. I understand the inflation gap but it's nartowed or surpassed.

[Green Arrow]

Right, it's lagging. Showing the O'bammy era trenddoesnt support your point. That trend is turning around.

Highest wage growth in 9 years. I understand the inflation gap but it's nartowed or surpassed.

In one month. One month does not change decades of lag.

Also not sure why you keep bringing up Obama. He was president for eight out of nearly fifty years. The problem is bigger than any one president.

[Ransom]

This includes things like educational programs aimed towards low-income students. I think a lot of people are assuming it is only food stamps, welfare cheques, and medicare. It also includes job training for the unemployed. There are 79 programs that fall under means-tested government assistance.

Ironically, it would just be cheaper to give every low income family a full salary than to pay for all of those programs.

Wouldn't be cheaper for their souls, Adelaide. Give something for nothing and they've no incentive to "earn" a full salary but will take it from you and I. Perhaps maybe study some systems that have tried that and see what happens.

From each according their skills, to each according to their needs has been tried....remember. Or maybe you didn't.

[Mini Me]

It's ridiculous, how many people receive some form of welfare, when they're perfectly capable of working... even more ridiculous, that our government allows it.

Should be, get into a job training program and, wean yourself off of welfare, say, in two years time, or, get cut off completely.

Well, businesses don't want to provide job training programs.So what the private sector doesn't do, gov.t must.

[Captain Obvious]

Well, businesses don't want to provide job training programs.So what the private sector doesn't do, gov.t must.


Straight out of your ass?

[gamewell45]

We can feed them in food centers if that's what it takes. It would be cheaper.

Okay, that works.

[gamewell45]

Im betting most of those kids were born here of illegal immigrants and they get welfare for the kid
I think that is quite possible.

[donttread]

The Census Bureau has released new data that strengthens the case for calling the current generation of American children “The Welfare Generation (https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/521-percent-kids-live-households-getting-means-tested-government).”

Among American residents under 18 years of age in 2017, according to the Census Bureau (https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/cps-pov/pov-26.2017.html), 51.7 percent lived in households in which one or more persons received benefits from a means-tested government program.
That was down slightly from the 52.1 percent of Americans under 18 in 2016 (https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/521-percent-kids-live-households-getting-means-tested-government) who lived in households receiving means-tested government assistance. (Also, because this new Census Bureau estimate is for 2017, it predates the significant economic and job growth the United States has seen in 2018).
But in each of the last five years on record (2013 through 2017), according to the Census Bureau, at least 51 percent of Americans under 18 have lived in households receiving means-tested government assistance.


https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/welfare-generation-kids-households-getting-government-assistance-drop


So where is this turned around economy I keep hearing about

[barb012]

We have a system that gives out more benefits with women who have a child on welfare benefits by them having more children. These women should be put on a birth control method after the first child and no more benefits if they continue to be irresponsible.

[Raffishragabash]

You can't make folks that don't want to work, work.
You also can't make unethical employers of a "good ol' boy" network, hire the correct worthy people who are unemployed.