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Common
11-17-2018, 07:55 AM
This stunned me, I have never heard a whisper about this before this article. How can this if true have been kept secret so long.



Indigenous American Women Facing 'Dire' Violence That's Hard to Track, Study Finds
Violence against Native American and Alaska Native women extends far beyond reservations into urban areas, but it's difficult to even track cases of missing and murdered indigenous women in the U.S., a new study found.

Murder is the third-leading cause of death for American Indian and Alaska Native women on reservations with a domestic violence rate estimated to be 10 times the national average, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported. The was a dearth of research, though, on Native populations in urban areas as 71 percent of indigenous Americans now live off reservations.


An Urban Indian Health Institute study (https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Missing-and-Murdered-Indigenous-Women-and-Girls-Report.pdf) uncovered the difficulty of obtaining these crime stats as they mined departments in 71 cities in 29 states for data on Native crime victims, running into "institutional practices that allow them to disappear not once, but three times — in life, in the media, and in the data."


"Reasons for the lack of quality data include underreporting, racial misclassifcation, poor relationships between law enforcement and American Indian and Alaska Native communities, poor record-keeping protocols, institutional racism in the media, and a lack of substantive relationships between journalists and American Indian and Alaska Native communities," said the report.


Researchers uncovered 506 cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across the 71 selected cities, with two-thirds of the cases tied to domestic and sexual violence. The victims ranged in age from a baby to an 83-year-old elder, with the average victim age 29 years old.


Since the oldest case identified by researchers happened in 1943, but about two-thirds of the cases in the recovered data happened from 2010 to 2018, researchers suggest the actual number of urban Indian missing or murdered women and girls is "much higher."


"Of the perpetrators UIHI was able to identify, 83% were male and approximately half were non-Native," the report states. "Thirty-eight of the perpetrators were convicted, while nine were never charged, four were acquitted, one had a mistrial, and one committed suicide.
Altogether, 28% of these perpetrators were never found guilty or held accountable. An additional 30 alleged perpetrators have pending charges."


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/indigenous-american-women-facing-dire-violence-thats-hard-to-track-study-finds/

IMPress Polly
11-17-2018, 08:00 AM
I saw a story about this recently too in a recent news round-up of links collected by Feminist Current. Here's the story they linked to (https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/new-report-identifies-506-urban-missing-murdered-indigenous-women-girls/).

Common
11-17-2018, 08:06 AM
One of the problems is that reservations have their own law enforcement and obviously its quite lacking.

Where does all the Casino money go that goes straight into tribal chiefs pockets. Why isnt there a mandate since Indians have an exclusive only they can own casinos in some states that X amount of that money has to go to the betterment of reservations.

Domestic Violence 10 times the national average and Murder the 3rd leading cause of death for American Indian and Alaskan women, That is INCREDIBLE

Helena
11-17-2018, 08:50 AM
One of the problems is that reservations have their own law enforcement and obviously its quite lacking. Law enforcement doesn't stop murder. I do agree that tribal law is lacking when it comes to detective work.


Where does all the Casino money go that goes straight into tribal chiefs pockets. Why isnt there a mandate since Indians have an exclusive only they can own casinos in some states that X amount of that money has to go to the betterment of reservations.

Domestic Violence 10 times the national average and Murder the 3rd leading cause of death for American Indian and Alaskan women, That is INCREDIBLE

This is a huge problem that the US created for itself with indigenous peoples. The NA people obviously are still incredibly distrustful and resentful of any outside interference telling or even suggesting what they should do.

As for the domestic violence and murder numbers being so large, I would attribute a good amount of that to the drugs and alcohol that are rampant in the communities.

Common
11-17-2018, 09:00 AM
Law enforcement doesn't stop murder. I do agree that tribal law is lacking when it comes to detective work.



This is a huge problem that the US created for itself with indigenous peoples. The NA people obviously are still incredibly distrustful and resentful of any outside interference telling or even suggesting what they should do.

As for the domestic violence and murder numbers being so large, I would attribute a good amount of that to the drugs and alcohol that are rampant in the communities.

Law enforcement can reduce murder by strict enforcement and by elimination, by getting more and more badguys put away and out of the environment. Nothing can stop murder its a sporadic and many times instantaneous crime



As for the domestic violence and murder numbers being so large, I would attribute a good amount of that to the drugs and alcohol that are rampant in the communities.
That statement I agree with completely, but poor law enforcement has something to do with it also

Helena
11-17-2018, 09:13 AM
It's twisty. They get their tribal law, their own communities; they govern themselves on the reservations. So if things go south, I don't believe they should have the audacity to turn it around at this point in time to fault the US government.

Mmm. Far reaching consequences for how indigenous peoples have been mistreated. The parallels in Canada and even Russia are striking. Same problems, same jokes about alcohol.. it's disturbingly fascinating.

MMC
11-17-2018, 11:43 AM
A Few years back Baba Walters was looking into a Native American Tribe. She wanted to know what the feathers mean in their headdress.


So she seen one brave that had 1 feather in his headdress. So she runs over and asks him. What does the feather mean. He responded back. Me, have one feather. Me, have one wife. Not believing him she then seen a brave that had 2 feathers in his head dress. So she stops and asks what does it mean when you have 2 feathers in your headdress. The Brave responded back. Me, have 2 feathers.....Me, have 2 wives.


Thinking they were just pulling her leg as both braves had laughed.


She then sees the Chief of the Tribe.....now he has a headdress all full of feathers and his headdress runs almost down to the ground. So she asks the Chief. What does all those feathers in your headdress mean.


The Chief responded back. Me, Chief fuck them all. Me fuck them big, fat, tall, and small. Baba Walters then says.....Oh dear. Upon the Chief hearing her.....he says. No.....no deer. Fuckers run to fast and jump to high. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/New_Smilies/shrug.gif

Cletus
11-17-2018, 01:08 PM
One of the museums for which we provide coverage currently has on display two eagle feathers from Sitting Bull's war bonnet. They are on loan from the grandson of Pop Chalee, who acquired them during WWII. It is kind of a long, convoluted story, but she ended up breaking the bonnet down and sending feathers to various relatives. I told the museum's Director of Collections yesterday, that in the event of fire or other catastrophe, the first thing I wanted my guard to grab and protect were those feathers.

I would love to be able to mount one of those on the sling of my .45-70. That would be powerful medicine.

Lummy
11-17-2018, 01:36 PM
Alcohol. Drugs.


Researchers uncovered 506 cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across the 71 selected cities, with two-thirds of the cases tied to domestic and sexual violence. The victims ranged in age from a baby to an 83-year-old elder, with the average victim age 29 years old.

Since the oldest case identified by researchers happened in 1943, but about two-thirds of the cases in the recovered data happened from 2010 to 2018, researchers suggest the actual number of urban Indian missing or murdered women and girls is "much higher."

"Of the perpetrators UIHI was able to identify, 83% were male and approximately half were non-Native," the report states. "Thirty-eight of the perpetrators were convicted, while nine were never charged, four were acquitted, one had a mistrial, and one committed suicide. Altogether, 28% of these perpetrators were never found guilty or held accountable. An additional 30 alleged perpetrators have pending charges."...

Note that there is a problem in the methodology.


A representative from Santa Fe police told researchers that their "crime systems are not flexible enough to pick out Native Americans from others in the system… it would be impossible to compile any statistically relevant information for you.”https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/indigenous-american-women-facing-dire-violence-thats-hard-to-track-study-finds/

Knowing what you know about fake news, government funding, statistics-gathering organizations and their political leanings, the cheese that academia cranks out, and the government need to appear concerned, important and hard at work, you would do well to take all this with a grain of salt.

That's not to say that these conditions don't exist among Native Americans, but I don't have much confidence in these numbers either. Too many caveats. Furthermore, the bottom line of the story is that if they just had more money, they could do a better job, and that's always the bottom line.

MisterVeritis
11-17-2018, 02:43 PM
This stunned me, I have never heard a whisper about this before this article. How can this if true have been kept secret so long.

Indigenous American Women Facing 'Dire' Violence That's Hard to Track, Study Finds

Researchers uncovered 506 cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across the 71 selected cities, with two-thirds of the cases tied to domestic and sexual violence. The victims ranged in age from a baby to an 83-year-old elder, with the average victim age 29 years old.

Since the oldest case identified by researchers happened in 1943, but about two-thirds of the cases in the recovered data happened from 2010 to 2018, researchers suggest the actual number of urban Indian missing or murdered women and girls is "much higher."

Really? 506 cases since 1943?

"More than 211,000 homicides committed since 1980 remain unsolved..."
http://www.decodedc.com/how-many-unsolved-murders-are-there-in-the-u-s/

roadmaster
11-17-2018, 05:00 PM
I remember in Canada they had a lot of missing Indian woman found along side roads. This was coming from their own newspapers. About the same time I was reading about the water problems and pipe lines during the Obama administration. But you have to go to the source, not many other news talks about this but they were finding them along a long road outside the res.

hanger4
11-17-2018, 06:06 PM
One of the problems is that reservations have their own law enforcement and obviously its quite lacking.Where does all the Casino money go that goes straight into tribal chiefs pockets. Why isnt there a mandate since Indians have an exclusive only they can own casinos in some states that X amount of that money has to go to the betterment of reservations. Domestic Violence 10 times the national average and Murder the 3rd leading cause of death for American Indian and Alaskan women, That is INCREDIBLE*Where does all the Casino money go that goes straight into tribal chiefs pockets. Why isnt there a mandate since Indians have an exclusive only they can own casinos in some states that X amount of that money has to go to the betterment of reservations.* ............... I don't know about the other tribal reservations but the Eastern Band of the Cherokee at the Qualla Boundary fair very well, every man, women and child receives a biannual payment of about $4,000. The funds are held in trust for the under aged till 18 if they finish high school, 21 if not. A lump sum of around $175,000. Not to mention Harrah's Casino and related businesses give first dibs to tribal members for jobs.

Mini Me
11-17-2018, 06:14 PM
A few nights ago, I watched the old movie; "Billy Jack" It was about the town Rednecks harrassisng the Hippies and Injuns, and trying to shut down their Freedom School. It was quite moving!
Tom Laughlin starred as Billy Jack, and his female sidekick was played by Delores Taylor, who was a very plain looking woman. In my research on IMBD, he was married to Delores, and she came from the Rosebud Indian Rez in S. Dakota! So I think the movie was based on a true story. Back in 1967, the Hippies were all enthralled by Indian ways.I got upset, because I know about the discrimination of Indians having grown up in Phoenix, AZ during the 50's. I went to school with them, Gilas, Pimas, navaho, you name it. The Apaches had their own school, as they were the last to be tamed by the White Eyes.

Lummy
11-17-2018, 08:20 PM
http://mediaassets.scrippsnationalnews.com/photo/2015/01/16/HomicideSolved_1421441631617_12512190_ver1.0_640_4 80.png

This really is stunning.

Helena
11-17-2018, 08:23 PM
http://mediaassets.scrippsnationalnews.com/photo/2015/01/16/HomicideSolved_1421441631617_12512190_ver1.0_640_4 80.png

This really is stunning.

Wow. Should they really be advertising that now might be the time to try to get away with something?

Lummy
11-17-2018, 08:28 PM
I remember in Canada they had a lot of missing Indian woman found along side roads. This was coming from their own newspapers. About the same time I was reading about the water problems and pipe lines during the Obama administration. But you have to go to the source, not many other news talks about this but they were finding them along a long road outside the res.
I remember this. It was a few years ago in the Vancouver, BC area, I think.

hanger4
11-17-2018, 08:33 PM
Wow. Should they really be advertising that now might be the time to try to get away with something?I'd imagine that graph reflects more gang action than anything else.

Lummy
11-17-2018, 09:34 PM
Wow. Should they really be advertising that now might be the time to try to get away with something?

The thought crossed my mind that some people might feel emboldened, yeah. But I doubt it.


This is not an inspiring picture of an era of near total high tech intrusion. Constant monitoring and surveillance, which is about 100% in some cities, surrender of privacy and personal freedoms to accomodate government and law enforcement intrusion, the ability to record just about anything on a moment's notice and publish it immediately, instant geolocation updated as frequently as one wants, gun registration ad nauseum, police interagency networking, neighborhood crime watch, car cameras, porch cameras, indoor surveillance -- the whole ball of wax appears to be unproven trending toward a very costly waste for all the hype that has helped bring it all about, how everyone will have increased security.


One might ask, just who is it that's doing all the killing and not getting caught, anyway?

Common Sense
11-17-2018, 09:50 PM
I remember this. It was a few years ago in the Vancouver, BC area, I think.
That story was out of the Winnipeg area.

Canada also has the same serious problem with missing, assaulted and murdered native women. It's a national shame.

Mini Me
11-18-2018, 11:24 AM
Remember all the Mexican women dissappearing in Juarez a few years ago?Wasn't that related to the Drug cartels?Then there was the mass slaughter of students in Chiapas. The Gov.t did it!

Lummy
11-18-2018, 06:39 PM
That story was out of the Winnipeg area.

Canada also has the same serious problem with missing, assaulted and murdered native women. It's a national shame.

Sure is. Very weird too.

It's been awhile, but I think this was the guy in BC: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/robert-pickton-video-serial-killer-women-murders-vancouver-canada-a8175716.html

Grokmaster
11-18-2018, 08:25 PM
This stunned me, I have never heard a whisper about this before this article. How can this if true have been kept secret so long.



Indigenous American Women Facing 'Dire' Violence That's Hard to Track, Study Finds


Violence against Native American and Alaska Native women extends far beyond reservations into urban areas, but it's difficult to even track cases of missing and murdered indigenous women in the U.S., a new study found.

Murder is the third-leading cause of death for American Indian and Alaska Native women on reservations with a domestic violence rate estimated to be 10 times the national average, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported. The was a dearth of research, though, on Native populations in urban areas as 71 percent of indigenous Americans now live off reservations.


An Urban Indian Health Institute study (https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Missing-and-Murdered-Indigenous-Women-and-Girls-Report.pdf) uncovered the difficulty of obtaining these crime stats as they mined departments in 71 cities in 29 states for data on Native crime victims, running into "institutional practices that allow them to disappear not once, but three times — in life, in the media, and in the data."


"Reasons for the lack of quality data include underreporting, racial misclassifcation, poor relationships between law enforcement and American Indian and Alaska Native communities, poor record-keeping protocols, institutional racism in the media, and a lack of substantive relationships between journalists and American Indian and Alaska Native communities," said the report.


Researchers uncovered 506 cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across the 71 selected cities, with two-thirds of the cases tied to domestic and sexual violence. The victims ranged in age from a baby to an 83-year-old elder, with the average victim age 29 years old.


Since the oldest case identified by researchers happened in 1943, but about two-thirds of the cases in the recovered data happened from 2010 to 2018, researchers suggest the actual number of urban Indian missing or murdered women and girls is "much higher."


"Of the perpetrators UIHI was able to identify, 83% were male and approximately half were non-Native," the report states. "Thirty-eight of the perpetrators were convicted, while nine were never charged, four were acquitted, one had a mistrial, and one committed suicide.
Altogether, 28% of these perpetrators were never found guilty or held accountable. An additional 30 alleged perpetrators have pending charges."


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/indigenous-american-women-facing-dire-violence-thats-hard-to-track-study-finds/

Like the film "Wind River"....etal….outrageous that these crimes go unsolved, or even UNNOTICED....

donttread
11-19-2018, 07:18 AM
This stunned me, I have never heard a whisper about this before this article. How can this if true have been kept secret so long.



Indigenous American Women Facing 'Dire' Violence That's Hard to Track, Study Finds


Violence against Native American and Alaska Native women extends far beyond reservations into urban areas, but it's difficult to even track cases of missing and murdered indigenous women in the U.S., a new study found.

Murder is the third-leading cause of death for American Indian and Alaska Native women on reservations with a domestic violence rate estimated to be 10 times the national average, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported. The was a dearth of research, though, on Native populations in urban areas as 71 percent of indigenous Americans now live off reservations.


An Urban Indian Health Institute study (https://www.murkowski.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Missing-and-Murdered-Indigenous-Women-and-Girls-Report.pdf) uncovered the difficulty of obtaining these crime stats as they mined departments in 71 cities in 29 states for data on Native crime victims, running into "institutional practices that allow them to disappear not once, but three times — in life, in the media, and in the data."


"Reasons for the lack of quality data include underreporting, racial misclassifcation, poor relationships between law enforcement and American Indian and Alaska Native communities, poor record-keeping protocols, institutional racism in the media, and a lack of substantive relationships between journalists and American Indian and Alaska Native communities," said the report.


Researchers uncovered 506 cases of missing and murdered American Indian and Alaska Native women and girls across the 71 selected cities, with two-thirds of the cases tied to domestic and sexual violence. The victims ranged in age from a baby to an 83-year-old elder, with the average victim age 29 years old.


Since the oldest case identified by researchers happened in 1943, but about two-thirds of the cases in the recovered data happened from 2010 to 2018, researchers suggest the actual number of urban Indian missing or murdered women and girls is "much higher."


"Of the perpetrators UIHI was able to identify, 83% were male and approximately half were non-Native," the report states. "Thirty-eight of the perpetrators were convicted, while nine were never charged, four were acquitted, one had a mistrial, and one committed suicide.
Altogether, 28% of these perpetrators were never found guilty or held accountable. An additional 30 alleged perpetrators have pending charges."


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/indigenous-american-women-facing-dire-violence-thats-hard-to-track-study-finds/

Assimilation would help fix this.

Common
11-19-2018, 07:24 AM
I agree, why is there still reservations, that seems to segregate them not help

I would be for the govt buying them some land and building them a home and then them not have to pay any property taxs but get them out of that reservation mentality.