The Homeless Crisis Is Getting Worse in America’s Richest Cities

[Common]

Our homeless crisis gets worse, Does CNN, MSNBC report on it. NO!!!!!!!!! it makes democrats who run those cities look bad. Especially the SANCTUARY CITIES

Democrats have sanctuary cities for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTs and sanctuary states and they have homeless americans in the hundreds of thousands with no sanctuary laws

Its disgusting and ALL democrats should hang their heads in shame for not speaking out about this.


It was just after 10 p.m. on an overcast September night in Los Angeles, and L. was tired from a long day of class prep, teaching, and grading papers. So the 57-year-old anthropology professor fed her Chihuahua-dachshund mix a freeze-dried chicken strip, swapped her cigarette trousers for stretchy black yoga pants, and began to unfold a set of white sheets and a beige cotton blanket to make up her bed.

But first she had to recline the passenger seat of her 2015 Nissan Leaf as far as it would go—that being her bed in the parking lot she’d called home for almost three months. The Late Show with Stephen Colbert was playing on her iPad as she drifted off for another night. “Like sleeping on an airplane—but not in first class,” she said. That was in part by design. “I don’t want to get more comfortable. I want to get out of here.”


L., who asked to go by her middle initial for fear of losing her job, couldn’t afford her apartment earlier this year after failing to cobble together enough teaching assignments at two community colleges. By July she’d exhausted her savings and turned to a local nonprofit called Safe Parking L.A. (https://www.safeparkingla.org/), which outfits a handful of lots around the city with security guards, port-a-potties, Wi-Fi, and solar-powered electrical chargers. Sleeping in her car would allow her to save for a deposit on an apartment. On that night in late September, under basketball hoops owned by an
Episcopal church in Koreatown, she was one of 16 people in 12 vehicles. Ten of them were female, two were children, and half were employed.




The headline of the press release (https://www.lahsa.org/news?article=412-2018-homeless-count-shows-first-decrease-in-four-years&ref=hc) announcing the results of the county’s latest homeless census strikes a note of progress: “2018 Homeless Count Shows First Decrease in Four Years.” In some ways that’s true. The figure for people experiencing homelessness dropped 4 percent, a record number got placed in housing, and chronic and veteran homelessness fell by double digits. But troubling figures lurk. The homeless population is still high, at 52,765—up 47 percent from 2012. Those who’d become homeless for the first time jumped 16 percent from last year, to 9,322 people, and the county provided shelter for roughly 5,000 fewer people than in 2011.




All this in a year when the economy in L.A., as in the rest of California and the U.S., is booming. That’s part of the problem. Federal statistics show homelessness overall has been trending down (https://www.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2017-AHAR-Part-1.pdf) over the past decade as the U.S. climbed back from the Great Recession, the stock market reached all-time highs, and unemployment sank to a generational low. Yet in many cities, homelessness has spiked.







At least 10 cities on the West Coast have declared states of emergency in recent years. San Diego and Tacoma, Wash., recently responded by erecting tents fit for disaster relief areas to provide shelter for their homeless. Seattle and Sacramento may be next.




https://www.bloombergquint.com/businessweek/the-homeless-crisis-is-getting-worse-in-america-s-richest-cities#gs.BYiVWNs

[Helena]

We tend to think of the homeless as individuals, who somehow or another have ended up alone, with no family.. perhaps, drugs or alcohol played a part in their demise. The truth is, many many people are one disaster away from homelessness and the charities or services ostensibly designed to help are not designed for families, but only for individuals.

And it's dangerous to go to a shelter whether you're a single person or have family in tow.

A woman with four kids, two boys and two girls, was told that there was nowhere for her to go when she needed immediate help, because boys had to be separated and no more than two siblings were permitted to be in the same room. What kind of nonsense logic is that?

When I was younger, I had the most unfavorable view of homeless people because of what I was taught. Turns out, the homeless problem encompasses so much more than just the mentally ill, lazy, or addicts.

A huge problem for which I can find no good solution. Yes, the liberal controlled areas do seem to have a more glaring problem, but this is a national issue with little feasible solution offered. I often think the problem is glossed over and sugar coated with the feel-good operations of the holidays. The stories of the volunteers who pass out turkeys and socks, who easily scoop slop onto a tray. These are not solutions, nor do they offer any real hope for people caught in tragic circumstances.

Heartbreaking, really. What is being done for the suddenly homeless from the fires in California? Does anyone know?

[ODB]

What is being done for the suddenly homeless from the fires in California? Does anyone know?
On a large-scale basis? No idea. I did read that Goodwill is stepping up to help with that, but I haven't verified it.

And, private individuals have opened up their properties and homes to a small, select amount of people, but again - more individual related, not large group.

[Captain Obvious]

Hooray for capitalism

[Cannons Front]

the biggest issues are states like California where housing costs have soared and the income has remained far below what is needed to afford it.
With a median income of about $67,000 housing is far beyond that The California House Median listing price: $544,000 a 30 year loan would run you starting at about $2,454.42 a month. Median apartment rental California has 20 of the highest 25 cities. The average rent for an apartment in California is $1,218 with a 2 bedroom averaging $1,350
In contrast lets look at Ohio Median income is around $55,000 but the median home price is just under $170,000 a 30 year loan would run about $739.85, and a 1 bedroom apartment in Ohio averaged $570 and a 2 bedroom averaged $700

The solution is some affordable housing in places that just do not have any

[ODB]

The solution is some affordable housing in places that just do not have any
Affordable, as in an income-based sliding scale?

[Chris]

Hooray for capitalism

Hooray for politicians restricting housing development in order to raise rents, enrich property owners, and keep the poor out.

[jimmyz]

So glad I moved out of California 20+ years ago.

[MisterVeritis]

Hooray for capitalism
Capitalism has nothing to do with it. Zoning laws do.

[MisterVeritis]

the biggest issues are states like California where housing costs have soared and the income has remained far below what is needed to afford it.
With a median income of about $67,000 housing is far beyond that The California House Median listing price: $544,000 a 30 year loan would run you starting at about $2,454.42 a month. Median apartment rental California has 20 of the highest 25 cities. The average rent for an apartment in California is $1,218 with a 2 bedroom averaging $1,350
In contrast lets look at Ohio Median income is around $55,000 but the median home price is just under $170,000 a 30 year loan would run about $739.85, and a 1 bedroom apartment in Ohio averaged $570 and a 2 bedroom averaged $700

The solution is some affordable housing in places that just do not have any
We could return to common sense zoning laws.

[Common]

We tend to think of the homeless as individuals, who somehow or another have ended up alone, with no family.. perhaps, drugs or alcohol played a part in their demise. The truth is, many many people are one disaster away from homelessness and the charities or services ostensibly designed to help are not designed for families, but only for individuals.

And it's dangerous to go to a shelter whether you're a single person or have family in tow.

A woman with four kids, two boys and two girls, was told that there was nowhere for her to go when she needed immediate help, because boys had to be separated and no more than two siblings were permitted to be in the same room. What kind of nonsense logic is that?

When I was younger, I had the most unfavorable view of homeless people because of what I was taught. Turns out, the homeless problem encompasses so much more than just the mentally ill, lazy, or addicts.

A huge problem for which I can find no good solution. Yes, the liberal controlled areas do seem to have a more glaring problem, but this is a national issue with little feasible solution offered. I often think the problem is glossed over and sugar coated with the feel-good operations of the holidays. The stories of the volunteers who pass out turkeys and socks, who easily scoop slop onto a tray. These are not solutions, nor do they offer any real hope for people caught in tragic circumstances.

Heartbreaking, really. What is being done for the suddenly homeless from the fires in California? Does anyone know?

There are many mentally ill and emotionally ill homeless, there are many homeless Vets. Being homeless in big cities is incredibly dangerous for women and children. There are homeless that prey on other homeless and who are merciless. Its a sickening horrific thing to see up front and personally. Its one thing to read about it and see pictures and its a whole other reality to SEE IT first hand.

Homelessness is an american disgrace and what makes it so much worse to me is the Democrats WHO FIGHT publically for illegal immigrants who grant them sanctuary cities and and states, who give them special Id cards so they can get drivers licenses and other protections. Then herd american citizen homeless into tents or order the police to herd them into the industrial districts out of the site of tourists or anyone else. Make no mistake this fiasco is a DEMOCRAT disgrace

[MisterVeritis]

There are many mentally ill and emotionally ill homeless, there are many homeless Vets. Being homeless in big cities is incredibly dangerous for women and children. There are homeless that prey on other homeless and who are merciless. Its a sickening horrific thing to see up front and personally. Its one thing to read about it and see pictures and its a whole other reality to SEE IT first hand.

Homelessness is an american disgrace and what makes it so much worse to me is the Democrats WHO FIGHT publically for illegal immigrants who grant them sanctuary cities and and states, who give them special Id cards so they can get drivers licenses and other protections. Then herd american citizen homeless into tents or order the police to herd them into the industrial districts out of the site of tourists or anyone else. Make no mistake this fiasco is a DEMOCRAT disgrace
Emotionally ill?

Lock up the crazy people.

Establish common-sense zoning laws. End the welfare state. Problem solved.

[nathanbforrest45]

Emotionally ill?

Lock up the crazy people.

Establish common-sense zoning laws. End the welfare state. Problem solved.

Feed the homeless to the hungry. That's end two problems.

[Helena]

Emotionally ill?

Lock up the crazy people.

Establish common-sense zoning laws. End the welfare state. Problem solved.

Who is going to determine who the crazy people are and how is that going to be accomplished? Problem not solved. That creates a problem that plagued society not too long ago, where people could just have their "problem people" committed against their will for minor offenses or because they didn't want a wife anymore.

[MisterVeritis]

Who is going to determine who the crazy people are and how is that going to be accomplished? Problem not solved. That creates a problem that plagued society not too long ago, where people could just have their "problem people" committed against their will for minor offenses or because they didn't want a wife anymore.
I bet we could devise a way to decide who the crazy people are.

[Helena]

I bet we could devise a way to decide who the crazy people are.
Okay. Go for it. Let me know when you think you've worked out all the kinks.

[MisterVeritis]

Okay. Go for it. Let me know when you think you've worked out all the kinks.
Don't you ever tire of being goofy?

[Captain Obvious]

Increasing homelessness, shrinking middle class living standard and widening income gap are all a product of the capitalistic life cycle.

[MisterVeritis]

Increasing homelessness, shrinking middle class living standard and widening income gap are all a product of the capitalistic life cycle.
The opposite is true. Socialism destroys the middle leaving only the rich and the poor.

[Helena]

Lack of compassion, decency, the breakdown of cohesive family, family circles, and the greater community all bear a certain contributing factor to the growing and tragic homeless problem.

[MisterVeritis]

Lack of compassion, decency, the breakdown of cohesive family, family circles, and the greater community all bear a certain contributing factor to the growing and tragic homeless problem.
Is it growing and why is it tragic?

The number of people without a decent place to lay their heads at night is still down by more than 83,000 since 2010, a 13 percent drop.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/the-number-of-homeless-people-in-america-increased-for-the-first-time-in-7-years/

Aren't you the least bit suspicious that the homeless are reported on as a growing problem only under Republican Presidents?

[Captain Obvious]

The opposite is true. Socialism destroys the middle leaving only the rich and the poor.

You're not capable of independent thought, I can't respond to your canned replies but thanks anyway.

[Captain Obvious]

Lack of compassion, decency, the breakdown of cohesive family, family circles, and the greater community all bear a certain contributing factor to the growing and tragic homeless problem.

Desensitization in a materialistic "me" society. Why bother because... BUY BUY BUY.

Hooray for capitalism

[The Xl]

Crony capitalism and fraudulent money as debt economics are mostly to blame for this. And yeah, compounding the problem is the governments propensity to prioritize illegal immigrants over the homeless, the elderly, and the disabled.

[Helena]

Is it growing and why is it tragic?

The number of people without a decent place to lay their heads at night is still down by more than 83,000 since 2010, a 13 percent drop.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/the-number-of-homeless-people-in-america-increased-for-the-first-time-in-7-years/

Aren't you the least bit suspicious that the homeless are reported on as a growing problem only under Republican Presidents?


The homeless have been a constant presence for as far back as I can remember, and that is as far back as Reagan. It is tragic. The numbers are too damn high. The percentage that is lessened does not make it any less tragic for the people experiencing it, living it, or for America as a whole.


Reagan did a great disservice to the country on two fronts, one being his pulic denouncing of the homeless as a personal lifestyle choice. Yes, there are homeless who have made that decision. I've met them. And hey, live and let live. If they aren't complaining or causing mischief, leave them be. Let's not pretend that those people are in the majority.

I really don't care what the left/right, conservative/liberal spin on this is. The blame game is not helping anyone on this issue.

It's tragic and if you cannot understand why it is tragic, please try to imagine one of your loved ones alone, with no place to stay.. out in the cold, exposed to some evil heinousness with virtually no protection. Can't imagine it? That's probably because you would say that wouldn't happen to one of yours because they have a decent family with compassion, or great friends or a place in the community where that isn't a realistic possiblity.

[The Xl]

The homeless have been a constant presence for as far back as I can remember, and that is as far back as Reagan. It is tragic. The numbers are too damn high. The percentage that is lessened does not make it any less tragic for the people experiencing it, living it, or for America as a whole.


Reagan did a great disservice to the country on two fronts, one being his pulic denouncing of the homeless as a personal lifestyle choice. Yes, there are homeless who have made that decision. I've met them. And hey, live and let live. If they aren't complaining or causing mischief, leave them be. Let's not pretend that those people are in the majority.

I really don't care what the left/right, conservative/liberal spin on this is. The blame game is not helping anyone on this issue.

It's tragic and if you cannot understand why it is tragic, please try to imagine one of your loved ones alone, with no place to stay.. out in the cold, exposed to some evil heinousness with virtually no protection. Can't imagine it? That's probably because you would say that wouldn't happen to one of yours because they have a decent family with compassion, or great friends or a place in the community where that wouldn't happen.
Sadly, many people are narcissists with no concept of empathy.

[Helena]

There are many mentally ill and emotionally ill homeless, there are many homeless Vets. Being homeless in big cities is incredibly dangerous for women and children. There are homeless that prey on other homeless and who are merciless. Its a sickening horrific thing to see up front and personally. Its one thing to read about it and see pictures and its a whole other reality to SEE IT first hand. ...

I understand. I also believe that experiencing homelessness causes or contributes to what presents as mental and emotional illness.

[MisterVeritis]

You're not capable of independent thought, I can't respond to your canned replies but thanks anyway.
Coward.

[MisterVeritis]

Desensitization in a materialistic "me" society. Why bother because... BUY BUY BUY.

Hooray for capitalism
You err. It is socialism that destroys the middle class. Catholic? Socialist? Anti-capitalist.

What a mix. It is no wonder you are so goofy.

[AZ Jim]

So glad I moved out of California 20+ years ago.I left there in '91 and I was a native (LA circa '36)...

[Helena]

Desensitization in a materialistic "me" society. Why bother because... BUY BUY BUY.

Hooray for capitalism

Debt, credit scores, paying the poor tax...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZz7mOXDu0g

This is depressing.

[MisterVeritis]

Crony capitalism and fraudulent money as debt economics are mostly to blame for this. And yeah, compounding the problem is the governments propensity to prioritize illegal immigrants over the homeless, the elderly, and the disabled.
We have about 340 million Americans in the US. We have about a half million homeless. The BBC reports we have around 550K homeless. The HUD which benefits from a greater number says 5 million "qualify" as homeless. So let's say we have a million homeless.

It is a trifling number.

Some are homeless because they will not move to places where they can afford a home. It is their problem to solve. Some are crazy. You see goofy people here claim we cannot lock them up. Some are criminals.

California wants them in time for the census. They are valuable federal commodities.

[MisterVeritis]

The homeless have been a constant presence for as far back as I can remember, and that is as far back as Reagan. It is tragic. The numbers are too damn high. The percentage that is lessened does not make it any less tragic for the people experiencing it, living it, or for America as a whole.


Reagan did a great disservice to the country on two fronts, one being his pulic denouncing of the homeless as a personal lifestyle choice. Yes, there are homeless who have made that decision. I've met them. And hey, live and let live. If they aren't complaining or causing mischief, leave them be. Let's not pretend that those people are in the majority.

I really don't care what the left/right, conservative/liberal spin on this is. The blame game is not helping anyone on this issue.

It's tragic and if you cannot understand why it is tragic, please try to imagine one of your loved ones alone, with no place to stay.. out in the cold, exposed to some evil heinousness with virtually no protection. Can't imagine it? That's probably because you would say that wouldn't happen to one of yours because they have a decent family with compassion, or great friends or a place in the community where that isn't a realistic possiblity.
It is tragic that you believe it is tragic.

If you cannot accurately identify the problem how can you pretend to want to solve it?

Homelessness is a target used against Republican Presidents. How many sob stories did you here when Obama was President? Yet homelessness was higher in 2010 than it is today.

Don't be gullible.

[MisterVeritis]

Sadly, many people are narcissists with no concept of empathy.
Even worse are the gullible fools who are easily, even willfully manipulated.

[Captain Obvious]

Debt, credit scores, paying the poor tax...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZz7mOXDu0g

This is depressing.

And all the while the super rich are laughing at the poor and middle class and consuming their living standards.

And little Eichmann voters make the wheels go around.

[MisterVeritis]

And all the while the super rich are laughing at the poor and middle class and consuming their living standards.

And little Eichmann voters make the wheels go around.
As long as you embrace socialism and denigrate capitalism you will see what you are seeing.

[Captain Obvious]

Even worse are the gullible fools who are easily, even willfully manipulated.

If you only possessed the ability of self awareness you might realize you unwittingly are describing yourself, Eichmann.

[Captain Obvious]

As long as you embrace socialism and denigrate capitalism you will see what you are seeing.

Where did I embrace socialism?

I didn't, you're senile.

[MisterVeritis]

If you only possessed the ability of self awareness you might realize you unwittingly are describing yourself, Eichmann.
You are one of the easily manipulated. I smile when you speak of self-awareness. Catholic. Marxist. Anti-capitalist. Cartoonish.

[MisterVeritis]

Where did I embrace socialism?

I didn't, you're senile.
Catholic. Anticapitalist. Socialist. Cartoonish.

[Helena]

Homelessness is a target used against Republican Presidents. How many sob stories did you here when Obama was President? ...


You mean when I was homeless? One. Mine. And I didn't blame Obama for it. Also, the other homeless people weren't blaming any political party, either.

Blame is a game for people above it all.

[MisterVeritis]

You mean when I was homeless? One. Mine. And I didn't blame Obama for it. Also, the other homeless people weren't blaming any political party, either.

Blame is a game for people above it all.
How did you solve your problem?

[Helena]

How did you solve your problem?

I'd rather not go into that right now.

Suffice it to say, had there been a decent, compassionate cohesive family unit that gave a damn, I wouldn't have ever had to go through that.

[MisterVeritis]

I'd rather not go into that right now.

Suffice it to say, had there been a decent, compassionate cohesive family unit that gave a damn, I wouldn't have ever had to go through that.
If you could solve your problem so can the rest of them. Except for the criminals, the crazy and the lazy.

[Helena]

If you could solve your problem so can the rest of them. Except for the criminals, the crazy and the lazy.
This is actually hurting my heart. And I've developed a heavy callous around my heart, or so I thought.

Well, let's talk about criminals. They're treated pretty badly all the way through the system and when they get out, the uphill battle they have to find their place is tremendous.

And the crazy... goes back to who you determine is crazy and how you go about doing that. Have you come up with a good plan yet?

[MisterVeritis]

This is actually hurting my heart. And I've developed a heavy callous around my heart, or so I thought.

Well, let's talk about criminals. They're treated pretty badly all the way through the system and when they get out, the uphill battle they have to find their place is tremendous.

And the crazy... goes back to who you determine is crazy and how you go about doing that. Have you come up with a good plan yet?
It is not my problem to come up with the plan. It is my place to demand that a plan is put in place.

The crazy should be dealt with ass crazies. Lock them up.
The criminals should be dealt with as criminals. Lock them up too. Or deport them.
The lazy? Deport the ones you can.

[Helena]

I bet we could devise a way to decide who the crazy people are.


It is not my problem to come up with the plan. It is my place to demand that a plan is put in place. ...

Do you regularly lose bets with yourself, or is this the one time you thought you'd give it a whirl?

[Common]

the biggest issues are states like California where housing costs have soared and the income has remained far below what is needed to afford it.
With a median income of about $67,000 housing is far beyond that The California House Median listing price: $544,000 a 30 year loan would run you starting at about $2,454.42 a month. Median apartment rental California has 20 of the highest 25 cities. The average rent for an apartment in California is $1,218 with a 2 bedroom averaging $1,350
In contrast lets look at Ohio Median income is around $55,000 but the median home price is just under $170,000 a 30 year loan would run about $739.85, and a 1 bedroom apartment in Ohio averaged $570 and a 2 bedroom averaged $700

The solution is some affordable housing in places that just do not have any

Theres tons of homeless in fla and id bet its in the lower end of cost of living. Homelessness is a problem everywhere, certain ares are much worse

Its easier to be homeless in fla or california at least you wont freeze to death like some do elsewhere

[Common]

We have about 340 million Americans in the US. We have about a half million homeless. The BBC reports we have around 550K homeless. The HUD which benefits from a greater number says 5 million "qualify" as homeless. So let's say we have a million homeless.

It is a trifling number.

Some are homeless because they will not move to places where they can afford a home. It is their problem to solve. Some are crazy. You see goofy people here claim we cannot lock them up. Some are criminals.

California wants them in time for the census. They are valuable federal commodities.

Homelessness like crime statistics are total BS, they LIE all cities LIE about the numbers. There were thousands upon thousands in NYC alone and they are everywhere. Since the obama recession that number soared.

No one knows how many homeless there is but its certainly averages more than 10,000 a state, that number is absurdly ridiculous. Id bet california and florida alone has 500,000

[Common]

Look forget the numbers, forget the cause of homelessness, regardless of any reason for it, WHY isnt it reported and WHY is no one doing anything for it and

WHY do we have those that not only want more illegal immigrants but want even MORE protections for them.

Democrat Politicians tell us that illegal immigrants break our laws and cost us billions because they are looking for a better life. WHAT ABOUT AMERICAN HOMELESS, not a single illegal immigrant should be in this country while theres a single american homeless.

Thats why this entire thread is void of liberals, whenever there is anything they cant bullshit their way out of or make excuses for or blame trump for, they hide.

This is a democrat problem, they want to spend BILLIONS on illegals and shove american homelessness under the rug.

All the money spent on illegal immgrants could end american homelessness and have hundreds of millions left over.

[Captain Obvious]

Homelessness like crime statistics are total BS, they LIE all cities LIE about the numbers. There were thousands upon thousands in NYC alone and they are everywhere. Since the obama recession that number soared.

No one knows how many homeless there is but its certainly averages more than 10,000 a state, that number is absurdly ridiculous. Id bet california and florida alone has 500,000

The two major cities I live nearby both have homeless issues. One has virtually an entire section of the city that's all tent cities and people sleeping under underpasses. I know this first hand, I have to drive through that area to get to the airport. I'll take pics next time I'm there for ya.

The second city is a little smaller and has a central park in it's downtown area that's a tent city basically. Stacks and stacks of cardboard boxes and wood pallets are in a corner and get burned - but here's the good part, these boxes and pallets come from locals who drop off cases of food and things, just leave them there in the grass like some sort of eerie sacrifice.

So, I don't remember this phenomenon in major cities when I was younger, do you? I remember seeing a hobo here and there but never entire communities of homeless people.

Wonder what happened...

[Chris]

San Antonio solved the homeless problem this way. They gathered just west of downtown, between the River Walk and Bexar County Jail. At the south end of the homeless area was a shelter that would feed as many as it could. At the north end was a street where the homeless would gather to be picked up for day work. It was getting out of hand. So the city planners decided to right smack dab in the middle of the homeless area to build a new modern VIA bus terminal. You can't have that and all these homeless people walking around bothering bus riders, so they shut down the shelter, fenced a lot of the area off, and over tidme chased all the homeless away...scattered them throughout the city, but one here, two there, so it's hardly noticed. It's how politicians solve problems. San Antonio is very liberal.

[MisterVeritis]

Do you regularly lose bets with yourself, or is this the one time you thought you'd give it a whirl?
In the areas where I have expertise, I offer it. "We" means the US. Not me. I thought a friend should tell you.

[MisterVeritis]

Homelessness like crime statistics are total BS, they LIE all cities LIE about the numbers. There were thousands upon thousands in NYC alone and they are everywhere. Since the obama recession that number soared.

No one knows how many homeless there is but its certainly averages more than 10,000 a state, that number is absurdly ridiculous. Id bet california and florida alone has 500,000
You can be like the people in HUD who have an interest in making the number as large as possible. They claim five million. I do not believe them. But then, I am not gullible.

California wants as many homeless as possible in time for the 2020 census. After serving a useful purpose California will crack down on them.

[Helena]

In the areas where I have expertise, I offer it. "We" means the US. Not me. I thought a friend should tell you.
Oh, I gathered. The collective "we", where it's always someone else's job, therefore they can shoulder the blame when it comes time for you to judge them for the shitty job they did. Gotcha. We're all in this together and there are no small parts, only small actors.

[MisterVeritis]

Oh, I gathered. The collective "we", where it's always someone else's job, therefore they can shoulder the blame when it comes time for you to judge them for the shitty job they did. Gotcha. We're all in this together and there are no small parts, only small actors.
And yet when I asked how you solved your homelessness problem you chose not to answer. There are no small parts, only small actors.

[Helena]

And yet when I asked how you solved your homelessness problem you chose not to answer. There are no small parts, only small actors.

I believe I just said that.

[MisterVeritis]

I believe I just said that.
I was, rightfully, throwing it right back at you.

[Helena]

I... guess. If YOU think it makes sense, then that's all that matters.

Here's to a good foundation, four walls, indoor plumbing, and a roof that don't leak! :f_bubbly:

Happy Thanksgiving.

[jimmyz]

Lack of compassion, decency, the breakdown of cohesive family, family circles, and the greater community all bear a certain contributing factor to the growing and tragic homeless problem.

We have enough taxpayer money to give basic housing to the homeless. Think mobilization in WWII. It would make them comfortable for less than the cost of an aircraft carrier. I am for it even if people call me a socialist pansie.

[Chris]

We have enough taxpayer money to give basic housing to the homeless. Think mobilization in WWII. It would make them comfortable for less than the cost of an aircraft carrier. I am for it even if people call me a socialist pansie.

Over the last couple years I've read of various efforts to build tiny houses for the homeless most of which meet with resistance from local politicians.

[Helena]

We have enough taxpayer money to give basic housing to the homeless. Think mobilization in WWII. It would make them comfortable for less than the cost of an aircraft carrier. I am for it even if people call me a socialist pansie.


It might. It might, indeed. Is that the wisest course of action? I'm not so sure. I believe the problem would be better addressed in a better society related to some of the things I listed. Prevention and all that jazz.

[jimmyz]

Over the last couple years I've read of various efforts to build tiny houses for the homeless most of which meet with resistance from local politicians.

Yes, If we care about the problem we can cure it. People dont care and NIMBY. A shame.

[jimmyz]

It might. It might, indeed. Is that the wisest course of action? I'm not so sure. I believe the problem would be better addressed in a better society related to some of the things I listed. Prevention and all that jazz.

Support politicians that want to help house the homeless. I realize they may need birth to grave help. But I think we can afford it. And I am a Con. Go figure.

[Lummy]

Support politicians that want to help house the homeless. I realize they may need birth to grave help. But I think we can afford it. And I am a Con. Go figure.

They need sterilization ... uh-oh. So simple a solution is so huge a can of worms.

Man is really too smart for himself. He jacks off in his brilliance. Seduces in his brilliance. Rules in his brilliance. Creates God to suit himself in his brilliance. Predicts heaven and hell to come in his brilliance.

Essentially, He is God.

Then not.

Left to me, I would exterminate every liberal, every progressive, half of all liberals, and three quarters of all academics.

That has worked before, and they seem to demand it again.

[Captain Obvious]

They need sterilization ... uh-oh. So simple a solution is so huge a can of worms.

Man is really too smart for himself. He jacks off in his brilliance. Seduces in his brilliance. Rules in his brilliance. Creates God to suit himself. He is God, for all intents and purposes.

Then not.

Maybe you can convert your bb gun to shoot sterilization darts

[Captain Obvious]

Support politicians that want to help house the homeless. I realize they may need birth to grave help. But I think we can afford it. And I am a Con. Go figure.

In a leaner society where people had to produce to survive I don't think we would be seeing this phenomenon to this degree.

But when we can throw away what people can live on, what do you think happens?

[jimmyz]

They need sterilization ... uh-oh. So simple a solution is so huge a can of worms.

Man is really too smart for himself. He jacks off in his brilliance. Seduces in his brilliance. Rules in his brilliance. Creates God to suit himself. He is God, for all intents and purposes.

Then not.
When I was born our first Thanksgiving dinner was Ravioli in a walk-up garage flat that my mom and dad had when he was in the military. I am glad that sterilization as you put it was not considered.

[Lummy]

Maybe you can convert your bb gun to shoot sterilization darts


In a leaner society where people had to produce to survive I don't think we would be seeing this phenomenon to this degree.

But when we can throw away what people can live on, what do you think happens?

You are so fucking profound, it's hardly any wonder why you get the big bucks. LOL!

[jimmyz]

In a leaner society where people had to produce to survive I don't think we would be seeing this phenomenon to this degree.

But when we can throw away what people can live on, what do you think happens?

Voters (I know you dont) can get this done. Maybe if it comes up on your ballot you would eschew you wants and support it?

[Captain Obvious]

You are so fucking profound, it's hardly any wonder why you get the big bucks. LOL!

That it's talked past you... ain't my concern.

Have a cotton candy.

[Agent Zero]

Our homeless crisis gets worse, Does CNN, MSNBC report on it. NO!!!!!!!!! it makes democrats who run those cities look bad. Especially the SANCTUARY CITIES

Democrats have sanctuary cities for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTs and sanctuary states and they have homeless americans in the hundreds of thousands with no sanctuary laws

Its disgusting and ALL democrats should hang their heads in shame for not speaking out about this.


It was just after 10 p.m. on an overcast September night in Los Angeles, and L. was tired from a long day of class prep, teaching, and grading papers. So the 57-year-old anthropology professor fed her Chihuahua-dachshund mix a freeze-dried chicken strip, swapped her cigarette trousers for stretchy black yoga pants, and began to unfold a set of white sheets and a beige cotton blanket to make up her bed.

But first she had to recline the passenger seat of her 2015 Nissan Leaf as far as it would go—that being her bed in the parking lot she’d called home for almost three months. The Late Show with Stephen Colbert was playing on her iPad as she drifted off for another night. “Like sleeping on an airplane—but not in first class,” she said. That was in part by design. “I don’t want to get more comfortable. I want to get out of here.”


L., who asked to go by her middle initial for fear of losing her job, couldn’t afford her apartment earlier this year after failing to cobble together enough teaching assignments at two community colleges. By July she’d exhausted her savings and turned to a local nonprofit called Safe Parking L.A. (https://www.safeparkingla.org/), which outfits a handful of lots around the city with security guards, port-a-potties, Wi-Fi, and solar-powered electrical chargers. Sleeping in her car would allow her to save for a deposit on an apartment. On that night in late September, under basketball hoops owned by an
Episcopal church in Koreatown, she was one of 16 people in 12 vehicles. Ten of them were female, two were children, and half were employed.




The headline of the press release (https://www.lahsa.org/news?article=412-2018-homeless-count-shows-first-decrease-in-four-years&ref=hc) announcing the results of the county’s latest homeless census strikes a note of progress: “2018 Homeless Count Shows First Decrease in Four Years.” In some ways that’s true. The figure for people experiencing homelessness dropped 4 percent, a record number got placed in housing, and chronic and veteran homelessness fell by double digits. But troubling figures lurk. The homeless population is still high, at 52,765—up 47 percent from 2012. Those who’d become homeless for the first time jumped 16 percent from last year, to 9,322 people, and the county provided shelter for roughly 5,000 fewer people than in 2011.




All this in a year when the economy in L.A., as in the rest of California and the U.S., is booming. That’s part of the problem. Federal statistics show homelessness overall has been trending down (https://www.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2017-AHAR-Part-1.pdf) over the past decade as the U.S. climbed back from the Great Recession, the stock market reached all-time highs, and unemployment sank to a generational low. Yet in many cities, homelessness has spiked.




It’s most stark and visible out West, where shortages of shelter beds force people to sleep in their vehicles or on the street. In Seattle, the number of “unsheltered” homeless counted on a single night in January jumped 15 percent this year from 2017—a period when the value of
Amazon.com Inc., one of the city’s dominant employers, rose 68 percent, to $675 billion. In California, home to Apple, Facebook, and Google, some 134,000 people were homeless during the annual census for the Department of Housing and Urban Development in January last year, a 14 percent jump from 2016. About two-thirds of them were unsheltered, the highest rate in the nation.


At least 10 cities on the West Coast have declared states of emergency in recent years. San Diego and Tacoma, Wash., recently responded by erecting tents fit for disaster relief areas to provide shelter for their homeless. Seattle and Sacramento may be next.




https://www.bloombergquint.com/businessweek/the-homeless-crisis-is-getting-worse-in-america-s-richest-cities#gs.BYiVWNs

8. You must provide a link when quoting an article and follow fair use guidelines (you are permitted to copy and paste two to three paragraphs). In addition, do not alter another user's words when quoting them.

[jimmyz]

They need sterilization ... uh-oh. So simple a solution is so huge a can of worms.

Man is really too smart for himself. He jacks off in his brilliance. Seduces in his brilliance. Rules in his brilliance. Creates God to suit himself in his brilliance. Predicts heaven and hell to come in his brilliance.

Essentially, He is God.

Then not.

Left to me, I would exterminate every liberal, every progressive, half of all liberals, and three quarters of all academics.

That has worked before, and they seem to demand it again.

Kind of makes you look silly with this post no? I realize you are typing stuff. But your side, mine and theirs can do better. Yes.

[Agent Zero]

Our homeless crisis gets worse, Does CNN, MSNBC report on it. NO!!!!!!!!! it makes democrats who run those cities look bad. Especially the SANCTUARY CITIES

Democrats have sanctuary cities for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTs and sanctuary states and they have homeless americans in the hundreds of thousands with no sanctuary laws

Its disgusting and ALL democrats should hang their heads in shame for not speaking out about this.


It was just after 10 p.m. on an overcast September night in Los Angeles, and L. was tired from a long day of class prep, teaching, and grading papers. So the 57-year-old anthropology professor fed her Chihuahua-dachshund mix a freeze-dried chicken strip, swapped her cigarette trousers for stretchy black yoga pants, and began to unfold a set of white sheets and a beige cotton blanket to make up her bed.

But first she had to recline the passenger seat of her 2015 Nissan Leaf as far as it would go—that being her bed in the parking lot she’d called home for almost three months. The Late Show with Stephen Colbert was playing on her iPad as she drifted off for another night. “Like sleeping on an airplane—but not in first class,” she said. That was in part by design. “I don’t want to get more comfortable. I want to get out of here.”
L., who asked to go by her middle initial for fear of losing her job, couldn’t afford her apartment earlier this year after failing to cobble together enough teaching assignments at two community colleges. By July she’d exhausted her savings and turned to a local nonprofit called Safe Parking L.A. (https://www.safeparkingla.org/), which outfits a handful of lots around the city with security guards, port-a-potties, Wi-Fi, and solar-powered electrical chargers. Sleeping in her car would allow her to save for a deposit on an apartment. On that night in late September, under basketball hoops owned by an
Episcopal church in Koreatown, she was one of 16 people in 12 vehicles. Ten of them were female, two were children, and half were employed.
The headline of the press release (https://www.lahsa.org/news?article=412-2018-homeless-count-shows-first-decrease-in-four-years&ref=hc) announcing the results of the county’s latest homeless census strikes a note of progress: “2018 Homeless Count Shows First Decrease in Four Years.” In some ways that’s true. The figure for people experiencing homelessness dropped 4 percent, a record number got placed in housing, and chronic and veteran homelessness fell by double digits. But troubling figures lurk. The homeless population is still high, at 52,765—up 47 percent from 2012. Those who’d become homeless for the first time jumped 16 percent from last year, to 9,322 people, and the county provided shelter for roughly 5,000 fewer people than in 2011.




All this in a year when the economy in L.A., as in the rest of California and the U.S., is booming. That’s part of the problem. Federal statistics show homelessness overall has been trending down (https://www.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2017-AHAR-Part-1.pdf) over the past decade as the U.S. climbed back from the Great Recession, the stock market reached all-time highs, and unemployment sank to a generational low. Yet in many cities, homelessness has spiked.




It’s most stark and visible out West, where shortages of shelter beds force people to sleep in their vehicles or on the street. In Seattle, the number of “unsheltered” homeless counted on a single night in January jumped 15 percent this year from 2017—a period when the value of
Amazon.com Inc., one of the city’s dominant employers, rose 68 percent, to $675 billion. In California, home to Apple, Facebook, and Google, some 134,000 people were homeless during the annual census for the Department of Housing and Urban Development in January last year, a 14 percent jump from 2016. About two-thirds of them were unsheltered, the highest rate in the nation.


At least 10 cities on the West Coast have declared states of emergency in recent years. San Diego and Tacoma, Wash., recently responded by erecting tents fit for disaster relief areas to provide shelter for their homeless. Seattle and Sacramento may be next.




https://www.bloombergquint.com/businessweek/the-homeless-crisis-is-getting-worse-in-america-s-richest-cities#gs.BYiVWNs


I wish you'd research your claims based upon opinions, not facts, before posting them.

In fact, the homeless population in California has declined quite a bit, not so much for red states like South Dakota

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bf3142938150774b71980c1-750-1055.jpg

https://www.businessinsider.com/homeless-population-usa-states-2018-11

[Lummy]

That it's talked past you... ain't my concern.

Have a cotton candy.

You are why antifa. Fucking hello? Fucking dumbass bitch.

[Lummy]

Lord, how does this happen that such a mostly reprobate vile asshole is so well off?

Think about that, you stupid fuck. I do not care.

[Lummy]

Get rid of that disgusting av, you POS. Johnny Cash would certainly not approve, and you defile him with it.

Well, guess what?

[Agent Zero]

You are why antifa. Fucking hello? Fucking dumbass bitch.


Lord, how does this happen that such a mostly reprobate vile asshole is so well off?

Think about that, you stupid fuck. I do not care.

Get rid of that disgusting av, you POS. Johnny Cash would certainly not approve, and you defile him with it.

Well, guess what?

Going out in flames, huh troll?

bye!

https://media.giphy.com/media/OM2x3VWNkPUn6/giphy.gif

[jimmyz]

Get rid of that disgusting av, you POS. Johnny Cash would certainly not approve, and you defile him with it.

Well, guess what?

Nah. Captain Obvious is mostly a good sort. That being said, He is mostly good before his perversions kick in. I feel for his misses. She must be an understanding lover.

[Abby08]

Get rid of that disgusting av, you POS. Johnny Cash would certainly not approve, and you defile him with it.

Well, guess what?

Actually, I think Johnny would approve.... I always pegged him, as having a great sense of humor.... I think he'd get a kick out of it.

[MisterVeritis]

We have enough taxpayer money to give basic housing to the homeless. Think mobilization in WWII. It would make them comfortable for less than the cost of an aircraft carrier. I am for it even if people call me a socialist pansie.
We are 22 trillion dollars in debt. You are a socialist pansy.

Put up as much of your money as you wish to.

[MisterVeritis]

Support politicians that want to help house the homeless. I realize they may need birth to grave help. But I think we can afford it. And I am a Con. Go figure.
You pretend. That is all.

If you were a real conservative you would use your money and your effort. You are a garden-variety socialist. Nothing more.

[MisterVeritis]

You are so fucking profound, it's hardly any wonder why you get the big bucks. LOL!
C.O. is cartoonish. I wonder if he is sick.

[MisterVeritis]

Voters (I know you dont) can get this done. Maybe if it comes up on your ballot you would eschew you wants and support it?
Socialists always want to take more from taxpayers. Prioritize.
Do you want an upgraded road or do you want to subsidize sloth and depravity?

[MisterVeritis]

That it's talked past you... ain't my concern.
Have a cotton candy.
You are cartoonish.

[Captain Obvious]

C.O. is cartoonish. I wonder if he is sick.

The space in your head isn't worth the effort, thanks.

Maybe you, lummy and Boris should go on a road trip.

[Captain Obvious]

You are cartoonish.

Did your neighbor's kid teach you a new word?

[MisterVeritis]

Going out in flames, huh troll?

bye!

https://media.giphy.com/media/OM2x3VWNkPUn6/giphy.gif
You and C.O. are like two peas in a pod.

[MisterVeritis]

The space in your head isn't worth the effort, thanks.

Maybe you, lummy and Boris should go on a road trip.
Cartoonish. It is all I need to say about you. What a waste.

[MisterVeritis]

Did your neighbor's kid teach you a new word?
You are cartoonish. Do you remember, before you went into your steep decline when you made sense from time to time? Yeah, me neither.

[Captain Obvious]

You are cartoonish. Do you remember, before you went into your steep decline when you made sense from time to time? Yeah, me neither.

Are you saying I'm cartoonish?

[MisterVeritis]

Are you saying I'm cartoonish?
You are slowly catching on. Congratulations.

[Captain Obvious]

You are slowly catching on. Congratulations.

ok, I'm cartoonish then?

I wasn't sure if that's what you meant.

[Lummy]

The space in your head isn't worth the effort, thanks.

Maybe you, lummy and Boris should go on a road trip.

Your av this thoroughly disgusting. It shows mostly how gutless and cheap, and how low you will go to get attention.

That's fact. You are pathetic.

[Captain Obvious]

Your av this thoroughly disgusting. It shows mostly how gutless and cheap, and how low you will go to get attention.

That's fact. You are pathetic.

Wait... check your club's bylaws, the proper term is cartoonish.

You didn't get the decoder ring?

[Lummy]

Wait... check your club's bylaws, the proper term is cartoonish.

You didn't get the decoder ring?

Die in a fire, you fucking POS. You have the intelligence of used tp.

[Captain Obvious]

Die in a fire, you fucking POS. You have the intelligence of used tp.
Happy turkey day to you too.

Christmas card is in the mail.

[Agent Zero]

Die in a fire, you fucking POS. You have the intelligence of used tp.

lol

[Lummy]

Happy turkey day to you too.

Christmas card is in the mail.

You are an inspiration to migrants, no doubt, fucking brat POS. Post your contact information for them, bitch.

[Agent Zero]

lol

[Mini Me]

There are many mentally ill and emotionally ill homeless, there are many homeless Vets. Being homeless in big cities is incredibly dangerous for women and children. There are homeless that prey on other homeless and who are merciless. Its a sickening horrific thing to see up front and personally. Its one thing to read about it and see pictures and its a whole other reality to SEE IT first hand.

Homelessness is an american disgrace and what makes it so much worse to me is the Democrats WHO FIGHT publically for illegal immigrants who grant them sanctuary cities and and states, who give them special Id cards so they can get drivers licenses and other protections. Then herd american citizen homeless into tents or order the police to herd them into the industrial districts out of the site of tourists or anyone else. Make no mistake this fiasco is a DEMOCRAT disgrace

WRONG! Your beloved Rethuglicans have done NOTHING for the downtrodden!

[Agent Zero]

You and C.O. are like two peas in a pod.
Thank you

[Agent Zero]

Wait... check your club's bylaws, the proper term is cartoonish.

You didn't get the decoder ring?
I believe you spelled Klub wrong.

[Captain Obvious]

I believe you spelled Klub wrong.

I don't think MV is a racist, or Boris for that matter.

Lummy is bigoted but I don't hold that against him. He's an older guy and I kind of have sympathy for that generation. For some reasons, I'm a little like that but I like to laugh, joke. Why not have fun with things but the older school bigotry is a little staunch.

[Captdon]

I believe you spelled Klub wrong.

Who's balls are you using?

[jimmyz]

Disarray within our ranks... well done. CO is NOT the enemy. We are our own worst enemy. But we do not know it yet.

[Mini Me]

You err. It is socialism that destroys the middle class. Catholic? Socialist? Anti-capitalist.

What a mix. It is no wonder you are so goofy.

We don't have socialism in the US. never did! Find another bogeyman!

[Lummy]

I've been homeless for over 60 years now. State, national, local governments, United Nations, UNICEF, AIDS for Africa, -- they all call me up asking for money, and WTF, I'm homeless, you MFs?

[Agent Zero]

I don't think MV is a racist, or Boris for that matter.

Lummy is bigoted but I don't hold that against him. He's an older guy and I kind of have sympathy for that generation. For some reasons, I'm a little like that but I like to laugh, joke. Why not have fun with things but the older school bigotry is a little staunch.
I think they’re all very old, but have to disagree about the racism angle. The racism is ingrained in their minds, it’s how they were raised. After all, I admit I laughed a bit when Lummy used the horribly racist “Jap” slur earlier. Gotta admit I hadn’t heard that one since I was about 13 and heard my grandfather we it while ranting about the Great War. Even then it was a slur.

Regadless it’s a violation of forum rules, so I don’t feel too sorry. (And I thought Lummy was a woman)

[jimmyz]

Damn! Mister V called me a kook and all went south. I hope I wake up in America tomorrow with my Constitution intact.

[Captain Obvious]

Damn! Mister V called be a kook and all went south. I hope I wake up in America tomorrow with my Constitution intact.

Your turkey will be in the oven and beer in the fridge.

The rest is fudge.

[Mini Me]

I'd rather not go into that right now.

Suffice it to say, had there been a decent, compassionate cohesive family unit that gave a damn, I wouldn't have ever had to go through that.
I too, spent two years of my life homeless. Through no fault of my own. And I didn't blame anyone for it.

[Agent Zero]

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_9995156

Participants represented organizations from all ten concentration camps where Japanese Americans were imprisoned during World War II. The work of the conference was to make sure that the injustices perpetrated primarily on the Japanese population — 62 percent of whom were American citizens — are not inflicted on another group of people.

On the very day we met, the headlines were again filled with the word “Jap.” Hate speech from 75 years ago. King’s demagoguery was not a simple matter of political incorrectness. He used the same dehumanizing term that turned an entire nation against loyal Americans. For those at the conference, the word drained the blood from our faces and brought back the nightmare of numbers instead of names, of horse stalls and desolate prisons, and of a destruction of property, assets, community, heritage, culture and language. Even if King had apologized, he could not erase the impact of his racism. But he did not apologize.

For decades, the Japanese American Citizens League (JACL) has worked to expunge the term “Jap” from American speech, signs, names, advertisements - you name it. Why? “Jap” is and has been a racial pejorative that has been long viewed by the community as a word associated with civil rights injustices, discrimination, hate crimes, and persecution that spanned over a century. It is a word that was flaunted in anti-Japanese persecution of World War II and in the yellow Jim Crow environment of the late 19th and the 20th century. It was a word hurled at Japanese Americans as they were forcibly removed from their homes by armed soldiers and sent to remote prisons in 1942 and by a white supremacist who bombed the Sacramento office of the JACL in 1993. It was the word used by politicians as they passed laws to deny citizenship, deny property ownership, deny the right to marry an American citizen, and create segregated schools.

[Mini Me]

Homelessness like crime statistics are total BS, they LIE all cities LIE about the numbers. There were thousands upon thousands in NYC alone and they are everywhere. Since the obama recession that number soared.

No one knows how many homeless there is but its certainly averages more than 10,000 a state, that number is absurdly ridiculous. Id bet california and florida alone has 500,000

The Obama Recession? Happened on Dumbya's watch!

[jimmyz]

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_9995156

Participants represented organizations from all ten concentration camps where Japanese Americans were imprisoned during World War II. The work of the conference was to make sure that the injustices perpetrated primarily on the Japanese population — 62 percent of whom were American citizens — are not inflicted on another group of people.

On the very day we met, the headlines were again filled with the word “Jap.” Hate speech from 75 years ago. King’s demagoguery was not a simple matter of political incorrectness. He used the same dehumanizing term that turned an entire nation against loyal Americans. For those at the conference, the word drained the blood from our faces and brought back the nightmare of numbers instead of names, of horse stalls and desolate prisons, and of a destruction of property, assets, community, heritage, culture and language. Even if King had apologized, he could not erase the impact of his racism. But he did not apologize.

For decades, the Japanese American Citizens League (JACL) has worked to expunge the term “Jap” from American speech, signs, names, advertisements - you name it. Why? “Jap” is and has been a racial pejorative that has been long viewed by the community as a word associated with civil rights injustices, discrimination, hate crimes, and persecution that spanned over a century. It is a word that was flaunted in anti-Japanese persecution of World War II and in the yellow Jim Crow environment of the late 19th and the 20th century. It was a word hurled at Japanese Americans as they were forcibly removed from their homes by armed soldiers and sent to remote prisons in 1942 and by a white supremacist who bombed the Sacramento office of the JACL in 1993. It was the word used by politicians as they passed laws to deny citizenship, deny property ownership, deny the right to marry an American citizen, and create segregated schools.

To be fair, We paid them off ( American Nips). Psssst dont mention this history. It might besmirch Democrat politicians. Like FDR and his co conspirators for instance. lol

[Mini Me]

In a leaner society where people had to produce to survive I don't think we would be seeing this phenomenon to this degree.
You asked why all this happens, earlier.

It started when the Powell Memorandum went down, to empower the large corporation so take over power from the people. !971, then ALEC and the conservative stink tanks and Koch agenda made it much worse. Income inequality and the decline of the middle class and Unions set in.
But when we can throw away what people can live on, what do you think happens?

[Mini Me]

Where are the moderators? Did they all quit? Lummy goes on an insult binge, and we allow this?

I don't think he is long for this board!

[Dr. Who]

Our homeless crisis gets worse, Does CNN, MSNBC report on it. NO!!!!!!!!! it makes democrats who run those cities look bad. Especially the SANCTUARY CITIESDemocrats have sanctuary cities for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTs and sanctuary states and they have homeless americans in the hundreds of thousands with no sanctuary laws Its disgusting and ALL democrats should hang their heads in shame for not speaking out about this. It was just after 10 p.m. on an overcast September night in Los Angeles, and L. was tired from a long day of class prep, teaching, and grading papers. So the 57-year-old anthropology professor fed her Chihuahua-dachshund mix a freeze-dried chicken strip, swapped her cigarette trousers for stretchy black yoga pants, and began to unfold a set of white sheets and a beige cotton blanket to make up her bed.But first she had to recline the passenger seat of her 2015 Nissan Leaf as far as it would go—that being her bed in the parking lot she’d called home for almost three months. The Late Show with Stephen Colbert was playing on her iPad as she drifted off for another night. “Like sleeping on an airplane—but not in first class,” she said. That was in part by design. “I don’t want to get more comfortable. I want to get out of here.”L., who asked to go by her middle initial for fear of losing her job, couldn’t afford her apartment earlier this year after failing to cobble together enough teaching assignments at two community colleges. By July she’d exhausted her savings and turned to a local nonprofit called Safe Parking L.A. (https://www.safeparkingla.org/), which outfits a handful of lots around the city with security guards, port-a-potties, Wi-Fi, and solar-powered electrical chargers. Sleeping in her car would allow her to save for a deposit on an apartment. On that night in late September, under basketball hoops owned by an Episcopal church in Koreatown, she was one of 16 people in 12 vehicles. Ten of them were female, two were children, and half were employed.The headline of the press release (https://www.lahsa.org/news?article=412-2018-homeless-count-shows-first-decrease-in-four-years&ref=hc) announcing the results of the county’s latest homeless census strikes a note of progress: “2018 Homeless Count Shows First Decrease in Four Years.” In some ways that’s true. The figure for people experiencing homelessness dropped 4 percent, a record number got placed in housing, and chronic and veteran homelessness fell by double digits. But troubling figures lurk. The homeless population is still high, at 52,765—up 47 percent from 2012. Those who’d become homeless for the first time jumped 16 percent from last year, to 9,322 people, and the county provided shelter for roughly 5,000 fewer people than in 2011.All this in a year when the economy in L.A., as in the rest of California and the U.S., is booming. That’s part of the problem. Federal statistics show homelessness overall has been trending down (https://www.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2017-AHAR-Part-1.pdf) over the past decade as the U.S. climbed back from the Great Recession, the stock market reached all-time highs, and unemployment sank to a generational low. Yet in many cities, homelessness has spiked.It’s most stark and visible out West, where shortages of shelter beds force people to sleep in their vehicles or on the street. In Seattle, the number of “unsheltered” homeless counted on a single night in January jumped 15 percent this year from 2017—a period when the value of Amazon.com Inc., one of the city’s dominant employers, rose 68 percent, to $675 billion. In California, home to Apple, Facebook, and Google, some 134,000 people were homeless during the annual census for the Department of Housing and Urban Development in January last year, a 14 percent jump from 2016. About two-thirds of them were unsheltered, the highest rate in the nation.At least 10 cities on the West Coast have declared states of emergency in recent years. San Diego and Tacoma, Wash., recently responded by erecting tents fit for disaster relief areas to provide shelter for their homeless. Seattle and Sacramento may be next.https://www.bloombergquint.com/businessweek/the-homeless-crisis-is-getting-worse-in-america-s-richest-cities#gs.BYiVWNs
The root cause of this kind of homelessness is not illegal migrants but the increasing cost of accommodations in major cities. Illegals also live on the street and in alleys, they also live 25 to an apartment. This is a world-wide issue. The more money that can be made in a city, the higher the rents. Places like NYC and LA are becoming prohibitive. It has nothing to do with illegals, but whatever the market will bear. The average studio apartment rent in LA is $1,622 a month. That's a one-room apartment with a bathroom.

[Ransom]

The root cause of this kind of homelessness is not illegal migrants but the increasing cost of accommodations in major cities. Illegals also live on the street and in alleys, they also live 25 to an apartment. This is a world-wide issue. The more money that can be made in a city, the higher the rents. Places like NYC and LA are becoming prohibitive. It has nothing to do with illegals, but whatever the market will bear. The average studio apartment rent in LA is $1,622 a month. That's a one-room apartment with a bathroom.

The root causes of homelessness is......the increasing cost of accommodations?

Always someone else responsible. Always a landlord charging too much rent.....or restaurant owners charging too much for food and that's the reason for hunger. It's an insurance company, it's some corporation, someone using 'hateful' rhetoric. It's racism or discrimination, your reality here on earth always someone else's doing according to liberals. Huh Who?

[Ransom]

I think they’re all very old, but have to disagree about the racism angle. The racism is ingrained in their minds, it’s how they were raised. After all, I admit I laughed a bit when Lummy used the horribly racist “Jap” slur earlier. Gotta admit I hadn’t heard that one since I was about 13 and heard my grandfather we it while ranting about the Great War. Even then it was a slur.

Regadless it’s a violation of forum rules, so I don’t feel too sorry. (And I thought Lummy was a woman)

Agreed and one must be very careful. I honestly thought Safety was a woman for some time before being sanctioned for saying so.

Oops!

[Abby08]

But, why IS, Jap, a racial slur? It's just a shortened version of, Japanese.

[Helena]

But, why IS, Jap, a racial slur? It's just a shortened version of, Japanese.
Because people didn't say it nicely.

[Common]

The root cause of this kind of homelessness is not illegal migrants but the increasing cost of accommodations in major cities. Illegals also live on the street and in alleys, they also live 25 to an apartment. This is a world-wide issue. The more money that can be made in a city, the higher the rents. Places like NYC and LA are becoming prohibitive. It has nothing to do with illegals, but whatever the market will bear. The average studio apartment rent in LA is $1,622 a month. That's a one-room apartment with a bathroom.
I did not say the root cause of homelessness is illegal immigrants, no where did I even insinuate that Doc.

I clearly stated that Democrat Mayors and Govs have sanctuary cities and states and spend billions on Illegal immigrants and their benefits, along with their crime. Democrats come out vocally and loudly in the national public eye defending illegal immigration and then herd american citizen homeless into tent cities and industrial areas to keep them away from tourists and the general public. Its a disgrace and a democrat disgrace. Because they run ALL the major cities they created ALL THE SANCTUARY cities and STATES.

[Chris]

The root cause of this kind of homelessness is not illegal migrants but the increasing cost of accommodations in major cities. Illegals also live on the street and in alleys, they also live 25 to an apartment. This is a world-wide issue. The more money that can be made in a city, the higher the rents. Places like NYC and LA are becoming prohibitive. It has nothing to do with illegals, but whatever the market will bear. The average studio apartment rent in LA is $1,622 a month. That's a one-room apartment with a bathroom.


OK, but what is the root cause of "the increasing cost of accommodations in major cities"?

Think simple economics, supply and demand. Increase the demand without increasing the supply what happens, prices go up. And that is exactly what has been happening in many large cities, politicians restrict development of jousing driving up prices beyond most people's means.

And what's the root cause of that? Corruption, politicians selling themselves out to the highest bidders.

We have discussed this half a dozen times.

[Adelaide]

To be fair, We paid them off ( American Nips). Psssst dont mention this history. It might besmirch Democrat politicians. Like FDR and his co conspirators for instance. lol

Thread banned for rule 3 violation - "nips"

[MisterVeritis]

We don't have socialism in the US. never did! Find another bogeyman!
Of course, we have socialism in the US. It will grow in time to choke out all else.

[MisterVeritis]

Damn! Mister V called me a kook and all went south. I hope I wake up in America tomorrow with my Constitution intact.
Your Constitution has already been breached. You may wake up in relatively less freedom every day for a while. Without amending the Constitution to give it teeth and claws the progressives have already won. President Obama promised to fundamentally transform America. Obama succeeded.

You can wear a happy face for a few more years.

[MisterVeritis]

I think they’re all very old, but have to disagree about the racism angle. The racism is ingrained in their minds, it’s how they were raised. After all, I admit I laughed a bit when Lummy used the horribly racist “Jap” slur earlier. Gotta admit I hadn’t heard that one since I was about 13 and heard my grandfather we it while ranting about the Great War. Even then it was a slur.

Regadless it’s a violation of forum rules, so I don’t feel too sorry. (And I thought Lummy was a woman)
"Very old". I am 65.

I was raised as a Constitutionalist. You should try reading it sometime.

[MisterVeritis]

I too, spent two years of my life homeless. Through no fault of my own. And I didn't blame anyone for it.


Of course, it was your fault. You made bad choices. It happens.

[Captain Obvious]

"Very old". I am 65.

I was raised as a Constitutionalist. You should try reading it sometime.

Is constitutionalists code speak for wolves?

[MisterVeritis]

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_9995156

Participants represented organizations from all ten concentration camps where Japanese Americans were imprisoned during World War II. The work of the conference was to make sure that the injustices perpetrated primarily on the Japanese population — 62 percent of whom were American citizens — are not inflicted on another group of people.

On the very day we met, the headlines were again filled with the word “Jap.” Hate speech from 75 years ago. King’s demagoguery was not a simple matter of political incorrectness. He used the same dehumanizing term that turned an entire nation against loyal Americans. For those at the conference, the word drained the blood from our faces and brought back the nightmare of numbers instead of names, of horse stalls and desolate prisons, and of a destruction of property, assets, community, heritage, culture and language. Even if King had apologized, he could not erase the impact of his racism. But he did not apologize.

For decades, the Japanese American Citizens League (JACL) has worked to expunge the term “Jap” from American speech, signs, names, advertisements - you name it. Why? “Jap” is and has been a racial pejorative that has been long viewed by the community as a word associated with civil rights injustices, discrimination, hate crimes, and persecution that spanned over a century. It is a word that was flaunted in anti-Japanese persecution of World War II and in the yellow Jim Crow environment of the late 19th and the 20th century. It was a word hurled at Japanese Americans as they were forcibly removed from their homes by armed soldiers and sent to remote prisons in 1942 and by a white supremacist who bombed the Sacramento office of the JACL in 1993. It was the word used by politicians as they passed laws to deny citizenship, deny property ownership, deny the right to marry an American citizen, and create segregated schools.

One dehumanizes those one intends to kill in combat. Japanese became japs. Germans became huns.

In an earlier time, British colonists in America were Yankee Doodle Dandies.

Those wars are over.

[MisterVeritis]

Is constitutionalists code speak for wolves?
If you do not already know the answer you cannot be helped. You are damaged. I do not believe you are repairable.

[MisterVeritis]

The root cause of this kind of homelessness is not illegal migrants but the increasing cost of accommodations in major cities. Illegals also live on the street and in alleys, they also live 25 to an apartment. This is a world-wide issue. The more money that can be made in a city, the higher the rents. Places like NYC and LA are becoming prohibitive. It has nothing to do with illegals, but whatever the market will bear. The average studio apartment rent in LA is $1,622 a month. That's a one-room apartment with a bathroom.
Join a local group and change your zoning laws and building codes.

[MisterVeritis]

WRONG! Your beloved Rethuglicans have done NOTHING for the downtrodden!

We gave you a government that assures equal opportunity.

[MisterVeritis]

You and C.O. are like two peas in a pod.

Thank you
It is descriptive, not congratulatory.

You are young enough to suffer under the tyranny you propose. I hope you suffer well.

[MisterVeritis]

Your turkey will be in the oven and beer in the fridge.

The rest is fudge.
That is true tomorrow. And for a few more years worth of tomorrows. I believe we passed the tipping point in 2017. We have perhaps one more election cycle. After that, we will ever again win a national election. It will be one-party rule; unfortunately the wrong party.

You will get the anti-capitalist tyranny you desire. I hope you are young enough to suffer through it for a long, long time.

[Captain Obvious]

That is true tomorrow. And for a few more years worth of tomorrows. I believe we passed the tipping point in 2017. We have perhaps one more election cycle. After that, we will ever again win a national election. It will be one-party rule; unfortunately the wrong party.

You will get the anti-capitalist tyranny you desire. I hope you are young enough to suffer through it for a long, long time.

I was right, the rest was fudge

:biglaugh:

Wrong quote, derp

[MisterVeritis]

I was right, the rest was fudge

:biglaugh:

Wrong quote, derp
Is there anything you do well? Anything at all? It is okay to admit what is abundantly clear.

[Captain Obvious]

Is there anything you do well? Anything at all? It is okay to admit what is abundantly clear.

Did you used to work in a thermometer factory?

[MisterVeritis]

Did you used to work in a thermometer factory?
I understand. Somewhere along the way, someone broke you. You are no more repairable than Humpty-dumpty was.

[Helena]

Of course, it was your fault. You made bad choices. It happens.

Yeah. The way you put it across is very scathing, but not necessarily untrue. Everyone who adults can look to where they made a mistake and swear not to do that again!

But to put the blame SQUARELY on an individual for various things beyond their control isn't quite fair, either.

[MisterVeritis]

Yeah. The way you put it across is very scathing, but not necessarily untrue. Everyone who adults can look to where they made a mistake and swear not to do that again!
But to put the blame SQUARELY on an individual for various things beyond their control isn't quite fair, either.
One cannot fix a problem if one doesn't know why the problem occurred. In engineering when we ran failure review boards the first task was to determine, as much as possible what happened. Next was why did it happen. In almost every case the process was poor, people made errors, or worse, people failed to correct things.

We all make mistakes. If you are making poor decisions the results of those decisions are not someone else's fault. Someone else may amplify the impact. But only the individual who is making the poor choices can alter the course of their life.

[Tahuyaman]

We don't have socialism in the US. never did! Find another bogeyman!


Then what is Medicare, Medicaid, the ACA and Social Security? Public education is another example.

I too, spent two years of my life homeless. Through no fault of my own. And I didn't blame anyone for it.


Yes, it was your fault.

[Helena]

Oh, you're an engineer! That explains quite a bit, actually.

[MisterVeritis]

Oh, you're an engineer! That explains quite a bit, actually.
Engineering was my second career. Army officer for twenty years. Then engineer, mid-level followed by engineering-manager mid-level, culminating in engineering manager senior level.

I retired three years ago.

[Helena]

Engineering was my second career. Army officer for twenty years. Then engineer, mid-level followed by engineering-manager mid-level, culminating in engineering manager senior level.

I retired three years ago.
Congratulations. Happy Retirement!

[MisterVeritis]

Congratulations. Happy Retirement!
It is far better than I imagined it would be.

[Helena]

It is far better than I imagined it would be.
Cool. What are you doing to keep yourself from going stir-crazy?

[Peter1469]

That is true tomorrow. And for a few more years worth of tomorrows. I believe we passed the tipping point in 2017. We have perhaps one more election cycle. After that, we will ever again win a national election. It will be one-party rule; unfortunately the wrong party.

You will get the anti-capitalist tyranny you desire. I hope you are young enough to suffer through it for a long, long time.
If the GOP returned to the Constitution they would win back many who left.

[Tahuyaman]

If the GOP returned to the Constitution they would win back many who left.

I don’t see that happening. The establishment Republicans resent and resist any attempts to restore conservatism in the GOP. They are embarrassed by conservatives. Both Democrats and Republicans are proponents of big government. The only difference is that Republicans believe that they can manage it more efficiently.

[donttread]

We tend to think of the homeless as individuals, who somehow or another have ended up alone, with no family.. perhaps, drugs or alcohol played a part in their demise. The truth is, many many people are one disaster away from homelessness and the charities or services ostensibly designed to help are not designed for families, but only for individuals.

And it's dangerous to go to a shelter whether you're a single person or have family in tow.

A woman with four kids, two boys and two girls, was told that there was nowhere for her to go when she needed immediate help, because boys had to be separated and no more than two siblings were permitted to be in the same room. What kind of nonsense logic is that?

When I was younger, I had the most unfavorable view of homeless people because of what I was taught. Turns out, the homeless problem encompasses so much more than just the mentally ill, lazy, or addicts.

A huge problem for which I can find no good solution. Yes, the liberal controlled areas do seem to have a more glaring problem, but this is a national issue with little feasible solution offered. I often think the problem is glossed over and sugar coated with the feel-good operations of the holidays. The stories of the volunteers who pass out turkeys and socks, who easily scoop slop onto a tray. These are not solutions, nor do they offer any real hope for people caught in tragic circumstances.

Heartbreaking, really. What is being done for the suddenly homeless from the fires in California? Does anyone know?


Sure that's some of it but the mentally ill, addicts and the vets the VA never helped come home make up a good share of it to. However the OP must be incorrect as Trump has apparently fixed the national economy.

[MisterVeritis]

Cool. What are you doing to keep yourself from going stir-crazy?
That has never been a problem. I own and run three websites. Each has a unique focus for my blogs. I treat it as a business but it is more of a hobby.

In the last half year, I have become very involved in the medical marijuana effort in Alabama.

[Ransom]

Is there anything you do well? Anything at all? It is okay to admit what is abundantly clear.

He can post pictures of his family, he does that fairly well. The rhetoric following not really 'okay' but he did post the pic.

[Common]

WRONG! Your beloved Rethuglicans have done NOTHING for the downtrodden!


Have you noticed I never respond to you? its because you never have anything worthwhile to exchange with. You make absurd statements and Im thinking because of that you believe you are clever.

You may continue talking to yourself

[Common]

Facts that cant be disputed every major city in the USA is run by democrats, most medium sized cities are run by democrats.

Democrats cant run away from presiding over the lionshare of homeless in this country and they cant quantify having sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and fighting to give illegal benefits while they herd americans into small hidden crevices in their cities. Fighting for american homeless publically isnt politically expedient for them, what it does is demonstrate how they all have failed. BUT yelping publically about Illegal Immigrants rights and demanding their citizenship and we pay for their abortions and their births thats what their base wants to hear.

Democrats OWN american citizen homelessness they cant run away from it, they cant excuse it, they cant blame trump for it, so they ignore it.