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Common
12-20-2018, 04:28 AM
More and More evidence amass's how democrats steal elections


Democratic operatives created thousands of Twitter accounts posing as Russian bots in order to boost Alabama Democratic Sen. Doug Jones in the October 2017 special election by linking his Republican opponent, Roy Moore, to Russian influence campaigns.

The operatives, who were funded by liberal billionaire Reid Hoffman independently of Jones’s campaign, created more than a thousand Russian-language accounts that followed Moore’s Twitter account overnight, The New York Times reported Wednesday evening (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html).


Hoffman gave the operatives $100,000 for their project, which included creating fake conservative Facebook (https://dailycaller.com/2018/05/01/facebook-newsfeed-trusted-sources-dial-up/) accounts to dissuade voters from supporting Moore, according to the Times.


“We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet,” the operatives recounted in an internal report obtained by the Times.


Media outlets — both in Alabama and nationally — fell for the ploy and amplified the false narrative in October 2017


https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/democrats-russian-bots-false-flag/

stjames1_53
12-20-2018, 04:48 AM
stupid is as stupid does

Peter1469
12-20-2018, 05:58 AM
Is this illegal? A type of fraud?

Standing Wolf
12-20-2018, 08:08 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:

MMC
12-20-2018, 08:21 AM
It wasn't hard for the Demo Operatives to pose as Russian Bots, huh? Imagine that! :laugh:

MMC
12-20-2018, 08:23 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:


So its okay for Demo Operatives to pose as Russian bots in order to influence the outcome of an election. This should be ignored. As they wouldn't do such a thing on social media to influence a Presidential election, Right?

Peter1469
12-20-2018, 08:25 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:

I imagine most Americans are outraged at Russian operations to cast doubt on the US electoral process.

There is no doubt that Russia and the Soviets before them have been doing this over 50 years.

hanger4
12-20-2018, 08:26 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:And don't forget the million-fold more extensive actual trolling the US media does. ............. What do we do about foreign media newsies ?? They too print stories pro/con about US candidates.

hanger4
12-20-2018, 08:32 AM
More and More evidence amass's how democrats steal electionsDemocratic operatives created thousands of Twitter accounts posing as Russian bots in order to boost Alabama Democratic Sen. Doug Jones in the October 2017 special election by linking his Republican opponent, Roy Moore, to Russian influence campaigns. The operatives, who were funded by liberal billionaire Reid Hoffman independently of Jones’s campaign, created more than a thousand Russian-language accounts that followed Moore’s Twitter account overnight, The New York Times reported Wednesday evening (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html). Hoffman gave the operatives $100,000 for their project, which included creating fake conservative Facebook (https://dailycaller.com/2018/05/01/facebook-newsfeed-trusted-sources-dial-up/) accounts to dissuade voters from supporting Moore, according to the Times. “We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet,” the operatives recounted in an internal report obtained by the Times. Media outlets — both in Alabama and nationally — fell for the ploy and amplified the false narrative in October 2017https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/democrats-russian-bots-false-flag/Just a thought, if Dems did this in Alabama who's to say they didn't do this during the 2016 Presidential election.

zachroidott
12-20-2018, 08:34 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:
I'm outraged by social media in general. My blood pressure probably doesn't need specifics. I've seen the future of information exchange. It's fucking stupid.

MisterVeritis
12-20-2018, 08:36 AM
stupid is as stupid does
Twenty thousand idiot Republicans refused to vote for Moore, handing the Democrat the victory.

Standing Wolf
12-20-2018, 08:38 AM
So its okay for Demo Operatives to pose as Russian bots in order to influence the outcome of an election. This should be ignored. As they wouldn't do such a thing on social media to influence a Presidential election, Right?

That isn't what I wrote or suggested at all. Try again.

MisterVeritis
12-20-2018, 08:39 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:
The Democrats spent 100,000 dollars to influence one small election in one small state.

If the Russians spent ten million dollars how much impact would it have on a race that spent two billion dollars all around?

You have no clue. I can't imagine why.

MMC
12-20-2018, 11:54 AM
That isn't what I wrote or suggested at all. Try again.

Oh, so you deflected from the topic.

Tahuyaman
12-20-2018, 12:50 PM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:OK..... How does that mitigate this situation?

Standing Wolf
12-20-2018, 11:32 PM
I imagine most Americans are outraged at Russian operations to cast doubt on the US electoral process.

I agree - most Americans are. Trump, at least publicly, and many of his supporters refuse to acknowledge that it happened. Trump denied it because Putin was in the room, then later tried to weasel out of his cowardice by claiming to have left a word out of a sentence. The next day he was back to denying it again.


There is no doubt that Russia and the Soviets before them have been doing this over 50 years.

There is no reasonable comparison between the cyber-manipulation going on today and the relatively crude methods of even ten or fifteen years ago. Such efforts are effected today using social media and online news sites. In 1997, only 35% of American households even owned personal computers (up from 15% in 1990), and the crude beginnings of "social media" wouldn't exist for almost another decade.

Peter1469
12-21-2018, 05:47 AM
I agree - most Americans are. Trump, at least publicly, and many of his supporters refuse to acknowledge that it happened. Trump denied it because Putin was in the room, then later tried to weasel out of his cowardice by claiming to have left a word out of a sentence. The next day he was back to denying it again.



There is no reasonable comparison between the cyber-manipulation going on today and the relatively crude methods of even ten or fifteen years ago. Such efforts are effected today using social media and online news sites. In 1997, only 35% of American households even owned personal computers (up from 15% in 1990), and the crude beginnings of "social media" wouldn't exist for almost another decade.
Trump says there was no "collusion," not that Russia did not attempt to influence our elections.

The fact remains that Russia and the Soviets before them meddled in US elections for over 50 years. Yes advances in computers and our reliance on the Internet made their job easier.

MMC
12-21-2018, 09:39 AM
Trump says there was no "collusion," not that Russia did not attempt to influence our elections.

The fact remains that Russia and the Soviets before them meddled in US elections for over 50 years. Yes advances in computers and our reliance on the Internet made their job easier.

Why do you think leftists forget that part about Trump saying there was Russian Meddling? Yet keep running around saying that Trump denies Russian Meddling?

Standing Wolf
12-21-2018, 09:59 AM
Trump says there was no "collusion," not that Russia did not attempt to influence our elections...

Not correct. Trump has always taken charges of Russian meddling as an attack on the legitimacy of his election, and reacted accordingly.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/feb/19/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-denies-he-denied-russian-medd/

Common
12-21-2018, 10:06 AM
Anyone upset by this should be outraged by the thousand-fold more extensive actual trolling and posing by genuine Russian agents on social media, in order to influence American elections...but probably won't be. I can't imagine why. :rollseyes:
lol you always have an excuse for everything the left does, or you whattabout.

There are extensive investigations into russian meddling in the election, there should be extensive investigations into Hillary but you never hear the media or the left talkinga bout that and I cant imagine why.

Creating thousands of fake russian twitter accounts and posing as russians is ok though because they were liberals and russians did it too

This also poses the question were the supposed russians meddling in the potus election that Mueller was supposed to investigate was that really russians or were some liberals posing as russians and lying like the steele dossier

donttread
12-21-2018, 10:42 AM
More and More evidence amass's how democrats steal elections


Democratic operatives created thousands of Twitter accounts posing as Russian bots in order to boost Alabama Democratic Sen. Doug Jones in the October 2017 special election by linking his Republican opponent, Roy Moore, to Russian influence campaigns.

The operatives, who were funded by liberal billionaire Reid Hoffman independently of Jones’s campaign, created more than a thousand Russian-language accounts that followed Moore’s Twitter account overnight, The New York Times reported Wednesday evening (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/alabama-senate-roy-jones-russia.html).


Hoffman gave the operatives $100,000 for their project, which included creating fake conservative Facebook (https://dailycaller.com/2018/05/01/facebook-newsfeed-trusted-sources-dial-up/) accounts to dissuade voters from supporting Moore, according to the Times.


“We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet,” the operatives recounted in an internal report obtained by the Times.


Media outlets — both in Alabama and nationally — fell for the ploy and amplified the false narrative in October 2017


https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/19/democrats-russian-bots-false-flag/


How does anyone justify near total alliegence to either of the two "major gangs" ?

Peter1469
12-21-2018, 07:22 PM
Not correct. Trump has always taken charges of Russian meddling as an attack on the legitimacy of his election, and reacted accordingly.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/feb/19/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-denies-he-denied-russian-medd/
Russia meddled for and against both sides.

MMC
12-22-2018, 07:22 AM
Not correct. Trump has always taken charges of Russian meddling as an attack on the legitimacy of his election, and reacted accordingly.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/feb/19/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-denies-he-denied-russian-medd/

Trump Admits Russia Interfered In The Presidential ... (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/trump-acknowledges-russia-interfered-in-the-presidential)https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/trump...
President Trump acknowledged Friday for the first time since taking office that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, lashing out at how then-President Obama handled the meddling.


Hmmm Politifact just isn't all that accurate with their fact checking. Sometimes the TDS gets in the Way.