White Racist Snowflake Attacks Black McDonald's Employee Over Straw

[Agent Zero]

What happens when drunken racist snowflakes get upset over straws.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N7jfD3wkzA

Should he have been arrested for a hate crime?


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[Captain Obvious]

Always put your money on the black dude, in this case the black chic.

Can o whoop ass

[The Xl]

What does race have to do with this incident?

[MisterVeritis]

What does race have to do with this incident?
Was the white guy denied a black straw?

[alexa]

I'm sure beating up getting beat up by a black woman will enhance his street cred at the County lock up.

Another Trump voter goes to the dark side.

Sad

[Helena]

...
Should he have been arrested for a hate crime?...


No.

[Captain Obvious]

What does race have to do with this incident?

A white guy was spotted in McDonald's

[MisterVeritis]

I'm sure beating up getting beat up by a black woman will enhance his street cred at the County lock up.

Another Trump voter goes to the dark side.

Sad
Are all white people who eat at McDonalds Trump voters?

[alexa]

Are all white people who eat at McDonalds Trump voters?

No, just the dummies who attack the help.

And you.

[Captain Obvious]

No.

Correct.

Suggesting hate crime was silly.

[MisterVeritis]

No, just the dummies who attack the help.

And you.
I see. It sounds like a good story.

[Peter1469]

Looks like something from a Jerry Springer show.

Nothing about politics or social justice.

[Chris]

Well, he was white and in today's identity politics of the left he must therefore be an oppressor.


IOW, just another of Zero's troll threads.

[Peter1469]

Why are they getting rid of plastic straws in Florida?

[jigglepete]

Correct.

Suggesting hate crime was silly.

Maybe not human hate, but dude definitely seemed to have a major dislike of the straw policy. That and some major anger issues that really should be addressed.

[Safety]

Don't see it as a hate crime, but he had no right to touch her. I particularly like the way the manager didn't give a shit and walked up calmly and looked at the receipt after the altercation....

[Safety]

Well, he was white and in today's identity politics of the left he must therefore be an oppressor.


IOW, just another of Zero's troll threads.

In which you are trolling in....

[MisterVeritis]

Why are they getting rid of plastic straws in Florida?
Because Asian nations toss their garbage in the ocean. Duh!

[Captain Obvious]

Maybe not human hate, but dude definitely seemed to have a major dislike of the straw policy. That and some major anger issues that really should be addressed.

Strawman argument

[Tahuyaman]

What happens when drunken racist snowflakes get upset over straws.


<font color="#191E1E"><span style="font-family: Roboto">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N7jfD3wkzA

Should he have been arrested for a hate crime?



How did you form a conclusion of racism based on this?

[Tahuyaman]

Why are they getting rid of plastic straws in Florida?
For the same reason they are getting rid of them in other places...... Political correctness.

[Captain Obvious]

Where's Lummy ?

Hell launch this thread into a whole new galaxy.

:biglaugh:

[jimmyz]

I would rather ban drunk people in fast food chains

[Peter1469]

I would rather ban drunk people in fast food chains
That is big money for fast food joints.

[Chris]

I would rather ban drunk people in fast food chains


OP link says he was intoxicated.

[Agent Zero]

Why are they getting rid of plastic straws in Florida?

I love it. The new alt right cause. Save the straws, gas the brown babies!

https://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gif

[Agent Zero]

How did you form a conclusion of racism based on this?
Do you know what a question mark is, moron?

[jimmyz]

OP link says he was intoxicated.

yes, I was referring to folks like him.

[jimmyz]

The drunk should have broke her hand-hold on his shirt. Might have saved him a lump or two.

[Tahuyaman]

Do you know what a question mark is, moron?

One more try.... How did you form the conclusion that racism was involved in this incident?

[Ransom]

One more try.... How did you form the conclusion that racism was involved in this incident?
Agent Zero is a blatant racist and inserted that to see what buttons could be pushed.

Or he's an idiot but that would be the only two options except for all of the above.

[Tahuyaman]

I love it. The new alt right cause. Save the straws, gas the brown babies!


One more. How did you form that conclusion based on the plastic straw issue?

[Tahuyaman]

Agent Zero is a blatant racist and inserted that to see what buttons could be pushed.

Or he's an idiot but that would be the only two options except for all of the above.
I was actually hoping that he would provide a real answer. I should have known better.

[Peter1469]

I love it. The new alt right cause. Save the straws, gas the brown babies!

https://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gif
That is a stupid and racist comment.

[Chris]

I love it. The new alt right cause. Save the straws, gas the brown babies!

https://media.giphy.com/media/mmYy42RNrgA0w/giphy.gif

You literally are grasping at straws.

[Peter1469]

The drunk should have broke her hand-hold on his shirt. Might have saved him a lump or two.

It is actually an easy effective move to do that.

[Tahuyaman]

It's really unfortunate that we have millions of people in the nation who are race centric and will turn everything into an issue of racism. There are generally the same people who preach to everyone else about how we need a colorblind society.

[countryboy]

I'm sure beating up getting beat up by a black woman will enhance his street cred at the County lock up.

Another Trump voter goes to the dark side.

Sad

That's just fucking idiotic. The guy is obviously an entitled Democrat. Normal people don't get that upset over straws.

[countryboy]

No, just the dummies who attack the help.

And you.

And you base this moronic assertion on what, exactly?

[alexa]

That's just $#@!ing idiotic. The guy is obviously an entitled Democrat. Normal people don't get that upset over straws.
Normal people aren't Trump supporters.

[Tahuyaman]

It is actually an easy effective move to do that.

Not when one is drunk. Drunks usually don't fare well in a fight.

[Chris]

Normal people aren't Trump supporters.

But normal people are, what, Trump trollers?

[Tahuyaman]

That is a stupid and racist comment.


But it's within his character.

[countryboy]

It's really unfortunate that we have millions of people in the nation who are race centric and will turn everything into an issue of racism. There are generally the same people who preach to everyone else about how we need a colorblind society.

I thought it was touching how the woman who filmed the incident said she actually hopes the perp gets the help he needs. Personally I think a good beat down is the "help" he needs. But she certainly showed a million times more humanity than the scumbag, bigoted LWNJs who are using this to stir a nonexistent pot.

[countryboy]

Normal people aren't Trump supporters.

Sure we are. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

What do you base the idiotic assertion on, that this perp is a Trump supporter?

[stjames1_53]

What happens when drunken racist snowflakes get upset over straws.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N7jfD3wkzA

Should he have been arrested for a hate crime?


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White Racist Snowflake Attacks Black McDonald's Employee Over Straw
I've seen several repeats of this story carried in msm, but not one of them stated he was a racist. Tell us, did you make that one up by yourself?

Customer Assaults McDonald's Employee Over Straw
https://www.yahoo.com/news/customer-assaults-mcdonalds-employee-over-212041869.html

this^^^^ is the real title of your story.......................
and no mention in any articles that he was a Trump supporter..................
troll bait thread, folks, nothing more

[countryboy]

Why are they getting rid of plastic straws in Florida?

Because a single sea turtle probably choked on one.

[alexa]

Sure we are. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

What do you base the idiotic assertion on, that this perp is a Trump supporter?

You.

[countryboy]

You.

Can you be more specific? A drunk guy in a McDonald's is a racist Trump supporter because....me?

[MisterVeritis]

Can you be more specific? A drunk guy in a McDonald's is a racist Trump supporter because....me?
Alexa believes she is a very sharp knife in the drawer.

[stjames1_53]

That's just $#@!ing idiotic. The guy is obviously an entitled Democrat. Normal people don't get that upset over straws.

............yeah, it implied the guy had a sense of Entitlement..............a liberal trait

[MisterVeritis]

We can draw some conclusions from this incident and our discussions.

1) It is never good to grab someone you cannot actually beat.
2) Racists and racialists will tend to see any interaction involving a white perp and a black victim as racist. It is how they roll.
3) Radical leftists will jump to unwarranted conclusions.

[Dr. Who]

For the same reason they are getting rid of them in other places...... Political correctness.

Plastic straws are a plague upon the sewer systems, waterways, lakes and oceans and likely also all the water filtration plants. They really are not necessary. For the length of time that you use a straw, a coated paper straw lasts long enough and then it biodegrades.

[Ransom]

I was actually hoping that he would provide a real answer. I should have known better.
T-man..your hope was the Agent Zero...was going to provide a "real answer?"

It's a button pushing, race bait of a thread start. There are no answers.

[MisterVeritis]

Plastic straws are a plague upon the sewer systems, waterways, lakes and oceans and likely also all the water filtration plants. They really are not necessary. For the length of time that you use a straw, a coated paper straw lasts long enough and then it biodegrades.
The real killer is polyester, rayon, and acrylics. They dwarf the so-called straws problem.


A straw, properly disposed of is not a problem for anyone.

[Dr. Who]

The real killer is polyester, rayon, and acrylics. They dwarf the so-called straws problem.


A straw, properly disposed of is not a problem for anyone.
They are not properly disposed of. That's the problem. They are meant to decompose on land, but they end up in sewers and waterways and ultimately decompose into microplastics that are being ingested by marine life. Are people so feeble that they cannot drink without a straw and if they must have a straw, does it have to be one that you could reuse for a year before it even starts to break down? How did people ever survive without plastic straws in the past? Most of what people suck through plastic straws is responsible for the obesity crisis in America. People can kill themselves without also killing off the ocean life in the process. The oceans belong to everyone, not just the entitled few.

[Cletus]

Any man who will drink out of a straw will quit on you in combat.

[MisterVeritis]

They are not properly disposed of. That's the problem. They are meant to decompose on land, but they end up in sewers and waterways and ultimately decompose into microplastics that are being ingested by marine life. Are people so feeble that they cannot drink without a straw and if they must have a straw, does it have to be one that you could reuse for a year before it even starts to break down? How did people ever survive without plastic straws in the past? Most of what people suck through plastic straws is responsible for the obesity crisis in America. People can kill themselves without also killing off the ocean life in the process. The oceans belong to everyone, not just the entitled few.
What a crock of liberal shit.


"Activists and news media often claim that Americans use 500 million plastic straws per day, for example, which sounds awful. But the source of this figure turns out to be a survey conducted by a 9-year-old. Similarly, two Australian scientists estimate that there are up to 8.3 billion plastic straws scattered on global coastlines. Yet even if all those straws were suddenly washed into the sea, they’d account for about 0.03 percent of the 8 million metric tons of plastics estimated to enter the oceans in a given year.
In other words, skipping a plastic straw in your next Bahama mama may feel conscientious, but it won’t make a dent in the garbage patch. So what will?"
"...at least 46 percent of the plastic in the garbage patch by weight comes from a single product: fishing nets."
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-06-07/plastic-straws-aren-t-the-problem



Focus on the right problem. It is not drinking straws.

[jimmyz]

Any man who will drink out of a straw will quit on you in combat.

:thumbsup20:

[MisterVeritis]

Any man who will drink out of a straw will quit on you in combat.
Screw you. Don't be one of them.

Okay. Maybe not screw you. I drink through a straw.

I use a straw every single day.

[MisterVeritis]

Any man who will drink out of a straw will quit on you in combat.





:thumbsup20:
Screw you too.

[Cletus]

Screw you. Don't be one of them.

Okay. Maybe not screw you. I drink through a straw.

I use a straw every single day.

I think there is an age waiver, so you are probably okay. :grin:

[Dr. Who]

What a crock of liberal shit.


"Activists and news media often claim that Americans use 500 million plastic straws per day, for example, which sounds awful. But the source of this figure turns out to be a survey conducted by a 9-year-old. Similarly, two Australian scientists estimate that there are up to 8.3 billion plastic straws scattered on global coastlines. Yet even if all those straws were suddenly washed into the sea, they’d account for about 0.03 percent of the 8 million metric tons of plastics estimated to enter the oceans in a given year.
In other words, skipping a plastic straw in your next Bahama mama may feel conscientious, but it won’t make a dent in the garbage patch. So what will?"
"...at least 46 percent of the plastic in the garbage patch by weight comes from a single product: fishing nets."
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-06-07/plastic-straws-aren-t-the-problem



Focus on the right problem. It is not drinking straws.

It's not just one thing it's everything. Change comes one thing at a time.

[MisterVeritis]

I think there is an age waiver, so you are probably okay. :grin:
That ain't it.

I have essential tremors. The best estimate is ten million of us have it. It is one of a dozen movement disorders. No straw? No drink.

In all seriousness about 20 million of us need straws. Straws are not the problem.

Fishing nets and other fishing gear account for about half the problem. Straws don't account for even 1% of the problem.

[Dr. Who]

Screw you. Don't be one of them.

Okay. Maybe not screw you. I drink through a straw.

I use a straw every single day.
If you do, there are reusable straws that you can buy and toss in the dishwasher with the cutlery.

[jimmyz]

Any man who will drink out of a straw will quit on you in combat.





Screw you too.

Since I only drink Whiskey straws are not required. It would be epic if you used one of these. Your eccentric cred would be doubly confirmed. :tongue:

https://theoriginalpartybagcompany.co.uk/product/crazy-curly-straws/
https://theoriginalpartybagcompany.co.uk/product/crazy-curly-straws/https://previews.photos.com/F0008-UF-ML000-600-young-woman-drinking-glass-of-juice-with-curly-straw-picture-id159626960.jpg

[countryboy]

If you do, there are reusable straws that you can buy and toss in the dishwasher with the cutlery.

A dishwasher is not going to clean the inside of a metal straw. Common sense should tell you that. Reusable straws come with cleaning brushes.

[Dr. Who]

That ain't it.

I have essential tremors. The best estimate is ten million of us have it. It is one of a dozen movement disorders. No straw? No drink.

In all seriousness about 20 million of us need straws. Straws are not the problem.

Fishing nets and other fishing gear account for about half the problem. Straws don't account for even 1% of the problem.
I figured that's why you are using straws. There are all kinds of people with disabilities that need straws, but that doesn't mean that they have to be disposable plastic.

[Dr. Who]

A dishwasher is not going to clean the inside of a metal straw. Common sense should tell you that. Reusable straws come with cleaning brushes.
Who said they have to be metal? There are really good reusable plastic products out there as well as glass. Both clean easily.

[countryboy]

Who said they have to be metal? There are really good reusable plastic products out there as well as glass. Both clean easily.

By "easily", you mean by scrubbing them out with a tiny straw brush by hand. A dishwasher is not going to clean a reusable straw.

[Dr. Who]

By "easily", you mean by scrubbing them out with a tiny straw brush by hand. A dishwasher is not going to clean a reusable straw.
It really depends what you are using the straw for. If you are just using it for drinks, it's not hard to clean, especially directly after you use it. If you are using it for smoothies and soup, then you have particulate.

[MisterVeritis]

I figured that's why you are using straws. There are all kinds of people with disabilities that need straws, but that doesn't mean that they have to be disposable plastic.
Disposables 100% prevent illness.

[Dr. Who]

Disposables 100% prevent illness.
So, why not paper straws - still disposable, right?

[Common]

The same people that complain about conservative postings, are cheering this one lol

I could post a dozen of these reversed in a matter of minutes every day.

[Lummy]

The guy should sue the governmental entity that put that law in place about the straws. They caused this and they should be brought to answer for it.

[texan]

Alexa is the racist here. Agent Zero is just a known troll setting off racists like Alexa.

[countryboy]

It really depends what you are using the straw for. If you are just using it for drinks, it's not hard to clean, especially directly after you use it. If you are using it for smoothies and soup, then you have particulate.

The point is, you claimed it was as easy as throwing them in the dishwasher along with your cutlery. That's simply not true. If you want to carry a reusable straw around, and wash it with your little straw brush, that's fine, knock yourself out. I'll be using disposable straws.

[Safety]

The same people that complain about conservative postings, are cheering this one lol

I could post a dozen of these reversed in a matter of minutes every day.

Now you’re getting it. How many threads were created about blacks rampaging through a mall or playing knock out?

[Dr. Who]

The point is, you claimed it was as easy as throwing them in the dishwasher along with your cutlery. That's simply not true. If you want to carry a reusable straw around, and wash it with your little straw brush, that's fine, knock yourself out. I'll be using disposable straws.

As I stated previously, there are alternatives to disposable plastic - there are paper straws that work very well and don't pollute the oceans. Have you some objection to truly biodegradable straws? Currently, paper straws cost about 2½ cents apiece, compared with a half-cent for plastic. I doubt that this would break the bank for anyone. There are also hemp paper straws. No doubt if plastic disposables disappear, that cost will come down - not perhaps as cheap as plastic, but nevertheless affordable. As to plastic disposable straws for people with a legitimate need for them, that is not a problem. It's the 99.999% of the rest of the population who can certainly make do with paper straws and who don't need them for hot beverages or require that they bend, although there are paper bendy straws. For most people, straws are an indulgence, not a requirement for drinking.

[Peter1469]

The guy should sue the governmental entity that put that law in place about the straws. They caused this and they should be brought to answer for it.

Citizens likely don't have standing to sue local governments for such laws. Work to elect people that will change the law.

[Peter1469]

I luckily have no need for straws.

[MisterVeritis]

So, why not paper straws - still disposable, right?
They are more expensive and have to be unwrapped.

[MisterVeritis]

As I stated previously, there are alternatives to disposable plastic - there are paper straws that work very well and don't pollute the oceans. Have you some objection to truly biodegradable straws? Currently, paper straws cost about 2½ cents apiece, compared with a half-cent for plastic. I doubt that this would break the bank for anyone. There are also hemp paper straws. No doubt if plastic disposables disappear, that cost will come down - not perhaps as cheap as plastic, but nevertheless affordable. As to plastic disposable straws for people with a legitimate need for them, that is not a problem. It's the 99.999% of the rest of the population who can certainly make do with paper straws and who don't need them for hot beverages or require that they bend, although there are paper bendy straws. For most people, straws are an indulgence, not a requirement for drinking.
I am confident that if there is a market for them straws will be produced that are both plastic/convenient and biodegradable. But straws are not the problem. Fishnets and other fishing gear account for about half the problem.

We should spend time solving actual problems. This is feel-good nonsense.

[Dr. Who]

They are more expensive and have to be unwrapped.
Truly, the fact that you need to use plastic straws because of your illness is not an issue. It's everyone else that doesn't have any special needs who have no actual excuse. However, I am rather surprised that the cost of straws should be an issue to you. If you used one paper straw an hour for 24 hours, that would be 60 cents a day - less than a cup of coffee.

[Dr. Who]

I am confident that if there is a market for them straws will be produced that are both plastic/convenient and biodegradable. But straws are not the problem. Fishnets and other fishing gear account for about half the problem.

We should spend time solving actual problems. This is feel-good nonsense.
It's the straws and the water bottles and the plastic beer can ties and all the other unnecessary plastic crap that people throw all over the place, because they are selfish pigs. If the fishing industry is polluting the oceans, then they should be held accountable by every nation on the planet. The ocean is not our private garbage dump, it's the life's blood of the planet. If it dies, so do we.

[MisterVeritis]

Truly, the fact that you need to use plastic straws because of your illness is not an issue. It's everyone else that doesn't have any special needs who have no actual excuse. However, I am rather surprised that the cost of straws should be an issue to you. If you used one paper straw an hour for 24 hours, that would be 60 cents a day - less than a cup of coffee.
I have other reasons. paper covered straws are quite a bit more expensive. They also do not last as long. And, most importantly, they are not the problem.

I am wealthy because I do not waste my money on things that are unnecessary.

[Common]

It's the straws and the water bottles and the plastic beer can ties and all the other unnecessary plastic crap that people throw all over the place, because they are selfish pigs. If the fishing industry is polluting the oceans, then they should be held accountable by every nation on the planet. The ocean is not our private garbage dump, it's the life's blood of the planet. If it dies, so do we.

The problem with all these rules are many, first of all a pig is a pig and wont pay attention to it anyway. Secondly we crush our citizens with bullshit and other countries arent going to miss a beat and in the end it will mean nothing.

Plastic is EVERYTHING and everything is plastic, banning these few items are just irritants that wont do squat. You still have a gadzillion garbage bags of all sizes and water bottles and soda bottles and every damn thing is packaged in plastic.

[MisterVeritis]

Truly, the fact that you need to use plastic straws because of your illness is not an issue. It's everyone else that doesn't have any special needs who have no actual excuse. However, I am rather surprised that the cost of straws should be an issue to you. If you used one paper straw an hour for 24 hours, that would be 60 cents a day - less than a cup of coffee.
Essential tremors and other movement disorders are not really illnesses. I have spent about a year in deep research. They all involve broken brains. It is fascinating. If I was not affected I doubt I would know a thing about it/them.

[MisterVeritis]

It's the straws and the water bottles and the plastic beer can ties and all the other unnecessary plastic crap that people throw all over the place, because they are selfish pigs. If the fishing industry is polluting the oceans, then they should be held accountable by every nation on the planet. The ocean is not our private garbage dump, it's the life's blood of the planet. If it dies, so do we.
With the exception of the fishnets and gear, nearly all the plastic garbage that end up in the sea is tossed there by the inhabitants of a dozen Asian nations.

[Dr. Who]

I have other reasons. paper covered straws are quite a bit more expensive. They also do not last as long. And, most importantly, they are not the problem.

I am wealthy because I do not waste my money on things that are unnecessary.
If you spent 60 cents a day for the next 20 years, it would only come to about $4K. If you have as much money as you suggest, $4K in 20 years is nothing, not that you even have to. Also, why would the paper straws be paper covered? Are your plastic straws paper covered?

[Lummy]

He has standing if he is busted, fined and/or goes to jail for the laws they impose, yes?

[Dr. Who]

The problem with all these rules are many, first of all a pig is a pig and wont pay attention to it anyway. Secondly we crush our citizens with bullshit and other countries arent going to miss a beat and in the end it will mean nothing.

Plastic is EVERYTHING and everything is plastic, banning these few items are just irritants that wont do squat. You still have a gadzillion garbage bags of all sizes and water bottles and soda bottles and every damn thing is packaged in plastic.
Our plastic madness needs to be addressed. It's out of control. People use what is available for them to use. Industry does not have to overpackage everything because most of that is for retail display purposes. What is actually good about online purchasing today, is that it provides an opportunity to get rid of the need for nasty plastic overpackaging. If there is a demand for non-plastic packaging etc, industry will respond. It's what they do. Boxes used to be filled with straw or peanuts to keep the contents safe, which worked just fine. We don't need all of the plastic that we use to package many goods.

[Dr. Who]

Essential tremors and other movement disorders are not really illnesses. I have spent about a year in deep research. They all involve broken brains. It is fascinating. If I was not affected I doubt I would know a thing about it/them.

I'm using the term in a broad sense - yes, it's a neurological issue as is Parkinson's. Do you use weighted utensils to mitigate the tremors?

[Hal Jordan]

Do you know what a question mark is, moron?
Refrain from insults.

[stjames1_53]

Citizens likely don't have standing to sue local governments for such laws. Work to elect people that will change the law.

methinks he was being sarcastic...........

[stjames1_53]

.........plastic straws, paper straws. straws with wrappers, straws without wrappers.............
Do any of you guys realized what you're arguing over? Ya'll sound like Congress...........

[nathanbforrest45]

Well, he was white and in today's identity politics of the left he must therefore be an oppressor.


IOW, just another of Zero's troll threads.
And an opportunity for alexa to snark at her betters.

[nathanbforrest45]

How did you form a conclusion of racism based on this?
He wasn't a racist, he was a strawist.

[nathanbforrest45]

Screw you. Don't be one of them.

Okay. Maybe not screw you. I drink through a straw.

I use a straw every single day.

I am a Trump supporting, white Anglo Saxon, gun owner and I never use straws. People who demand straws at fast food restaurants would eat boiled cabbage.

[nathanbforrest45]

That ain't it.

I have essential tremors. The best estimate is ten million of us have it. It is one of a dozen movement disorders. No straw? No drink.

In all seriousness about 20 million of us need straws. Straws are not the problem.

Fishing nets and other fishing gear account for about half the problem. Straws don't account for even 1% of the problem.

Isn't it wonderful how many debilitating diseases exist in the world that force the rest of us to adopt a certain lifestyle, from peanut poisoning to having the straw shakes, we are a species that is falling apart before our very eyes.

[Hal Jordan]

Okay, I'm up late and not reading through the entire thread.

The whole straw debate is stupid. Straws do not have much effect on any standard. There are plenty of ways we can actually make a change, the straw thing is not one of them. Get rid of all plastic straws, and there will be no noticeable effect.

[stjames1_53]

looks like the OP has bailed on their own thread...........................

[Peter1469]

He has standing if he is busted, fined and/or goes to jail for the laws they impose, yes?

Not necessarily. This straw ban applies to society in general; it is not a directed attack against a group or individuals. If a court did find standing - this sort of law that does not implicate a constitutional right and does affect protected classes would be reviewed under the rational basis standard (the first and least strict standard of review). That level of review is a very low bar.

[Peter1469]

I am a Trump supporting, white Anglo Saxon, gun owner and I never use straws. People who demand straws at fast food restaurants would eat boiled cabbage.

Hey! Boiled cabbage with proper seasoning is good. :smiley:

[stjames1_53]

Hey! Boiled cabbage with proper seasoning is good. :smiley:

............toss in a nice chunk of corned beef and ya got a feast

[Peter1469]

............toss in a nice chunk of corned beef and ya got a feast
I love corned beef!

[DGUtley]

Agent Zero is a blatant racist and inserted that to see what buttons could be pushed. Or he's an idiot but that would be the only two options except for all of the above.


Alexa is the racist here. Agent Zero is just a known troll setting off racists like Alexa.

NOTICE - texan and Ransom TB'd for calling people racist, in violation of the rules and policy.

[MisterVeritis]

If you spent 60 cents a day for the next 20 years, it would only come to about $4K. If you have as much money as you suggest, $4K in 20 years is nothing, not that you even have to. Also, why would the paper straws be paper covered? Are your plastic straws paper covered?
If I spent more money than I need to for basic things I would not have that money to invest.

The straws I use come in a box. Uncovered.
You are missing the essential point. Straws are not the problem.

[MisterVeritis]

Our plastic madness needs to be addressed. It's out of control. People use what is available for them to use. Industry does not have to overpackage everything because most of that is for retail display purposes. What is actually good about online purchasing today, is that it provides an opportunity to get rid of the need for nasty plastic overpackaging. If there is a demand for non-plastic packaging etc, industry will respond. It's what they do. Boxes used to be filled with straw or peanuts to keep the contents safe, which worked just fine. We don't need all of the plastic that we use to package many goods.
Plastic is the reason our food supply is safe.

[MisterVeritis]

I'm using the term in a broad sense - yes, it's a neurological issue as is Parkinson's. Do you use weighted utensils to mitigate the tremors?
Ah, the things I could tell you. If you read enough books on the subject you are sure to find one (or more) written by me.

Weighted utensils don't work for everyone.

More important to me are things like mechanical keyboards (high-end ones) and programmable mice. Speech to text is not quite there for me yet.

[Captdon]

Strawman argument

This wasn't too bad.

[MisterVeritis]

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Captain Obvious http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=2497477#post2497477)
Strawman argument

This wasn't too bad.
True.

[Captdon]

You.

Don't have a brain scan no matter how much your doctors want to get one from you. Don't give any clues away.

[Captdon]

Plastic straws are a plague upon the sewer systems, waterways, lakes and oceans and likely also all the water filtration plants. They really are not necessary. For the length of time that you use a straw, a coated paper straw lasts long enough and then it biodegrades.

What about plastic plates and forks and knives? What about styrofoam? What's so special about straws?

[Captdon]

As I stated previously, there are alternatives to disposable plastic - there are paper straws that work very well and don't pollute the oceans. Have you some objection to truly biodegradable straws? Currently, paper straws cost about 2½ cents apiece, compared with a half-cent for plastic. I doubt that this would break the bank for anyone. There are also hemp paper straws. No doubt if plastic disposables disappear, that cost will come down - not perhaps as cheap as plastic, but nevertheless affordable. As to plastic disposable straws for people with a legitimate need for them, that is not a problem. It's the 99.999% of the rest of the population who can certainly make do with paper straws and who don't need them for hot beverages or require that they bend, although there are paper bendy straws. For most people, straws are an indulgence, not a requirement for drinking.

Paper straws biodegrade as you use them.

[Tahuyaman]

I wish Agent Zero would return to this thread and tell us why he portrayed this as an incident motivated by racism.

[Tahuyaman]

As I stated previously, there are alternatives to disposable plastic - there are paper straws that work very well and don't pollute the oceans. Have you some objection to truly biodegradable straws? Currently, paper straws cost about 2½ cents apiece, compared with a half-cent for plastic. I doubt that this would break the bank for anyone. There are also hemp paper straws. No doubt if plastic disposables disappear, that cost will come down - not perhaps as cheap as plastic, but nevertheless affordable. As to plastic disposable straws for people with a legitimate need for them, that is not a problem. It's the 99.999% of the rest of the population who can certainly make do with paper straws and who don't need them for hot beverages or require that they bend, although there are paper bendy straws. For most people, straws are an indulgence, not a requirement for drinking.

when garbage is collected off ocean beaches, the amount of plastic straws collected is so tiny it's irrelevant. Hundreds of tons will be collected with about three pounds of it being plastic straws. It's people doing basically nothing then claiming that they are making a difference. The plastic straw bans are an example of placing symbolism over substance.


Almost half of the trash in the oceans is abandoned or lost fishing equipment. Then the majority of the rest of the garbage comes from China and other Asian nations.


However, the only thing I use a straw for is stirring a drink.

[Tahuyaman]

Don't have a brain scan no matter how much your doctors want to get one from you. Don't give any clues away.


You know, I could do a lot with that comment, but I've taken a vow to not feed people like her so I won't.

[Dr. Who]

Ah, the things I could tell you. If you read enough books on the subject you are sure to find one (or more) written by me.

Weighted utensils don't work for everyone.

More important to me are things like mechanical keyboards (high-end ones) and programmable mice. Speech to text is not quite there for me yet.
The speech recognition software used by Google docs is very good and it's free.

[MisterVeritis]

The speech recognition software used by Google docs is very good and it's free.
I will give it a try. I need something that works across all my applications.

Thank you.

[Dr. Who]

I will give it a try. I need something that works across all my applications.

Thank you.
Make sure that you have a really good microphone. A bad mic will thwart any voice recognition software. If you have a smart phone, try installing it there first.

Here's a You Tube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMIphQM_YRE

[MisterVeritis]

Make sure that you have a really good microphone. A bad mic will thwart any voice recognition software. If you have a smart phone, try installing it there first.
I have an excellent microphone.

Today I discussed my needs with Mindjet. The products development team promised to look into my three recommendations. One of them was speech-to-text within Mind Manager.

[Dr. Who]

I have an excellent microphone.

Today I discussed my needs with Mindjet. The products development team promised to look into my three recommendations. One of them was speech-to-text within Mind Manager.
Google's voice recognition is excellent, probably because they also use it for accessing the internet by voice as well as for GPS.

[Common]

Google's voice recognition is excellent, probably because they also use it for accessing the internet by voice as well as for GPS.

I have a pixel3 and the voice to text is impressive and i have one of those hard voices for voice apps to recognize but pixel3 does excellent. I search for phone numbers address and they pop right up, I love it

[Dr. Who]

I have a pixel3 and the voice to text is impressive and i have one of those hard voices for voice apps to recognize but pixel3 does excellent. I search for phone numbers address and they pop right up, I love it

That's google as well. Now if we can just get their voice to text to work across multiple platforms.

[MisterVeritis]

That's google as well. Now if we can just get their voice to text to work across multiple platforms.
I set up google docs and gmail. Both work excellently. All of the commands are different. I can learn the new commands. I have mostly Microsoft productivity tools, word, excel, powerpoint, and visio.

I looked for a general google speech to text tool for all apps. I found a cloud-based AI solution for around 300 dollars (I think per year).

[Dr. Who]

I set up google docs and gmail. Both work excellently. All of the commands are different. I can learn the new commands. I have mostly Microsoft productivity tools, word, excel, powerpoint, and visio.

I looked for a general google speech to text tool for all apps. I found a cloud-based AI solution for around 300 dollars (I think per year).
I did see that but wasn't sure if it would suit you, not knowing your needs.

[MisterVeritis]

I did see that but wasn't sure if it would suit you, not knowing your needs.
That is too pricey for me. I do reasonably well writing using a keyboard. but I know my ability is rapidly diminishing. So I need some good voice software that will let me control everything.

Ideally one day we can use voice and thought to do and play seamlessly.

[Captain Obvious]

That is too pricey for me. I do reasonably well writing using a keyboard. but I know my ability is rapidly diminishing. So I need some good voice software that will let me control everything.

Does Dragon offer a solution? Google it, it's a voice documenting software product that's popular with doctors, they might have something for general use.

It might be pricey too but meh.. if it works and makes your life that much easier then it might be a bargain.

[MisterVeritis]

Does Dragon offer a solution? Google it, it's a voice documenting software product that's popular with doctors, they might have something for general use.

It might be pricey too but meh.. if it works and makes your life that much easier then it might be a bargain.
Dragon Naturally Speaking gets high marks for many things. I owned it about a decade ago. It did not work that well then. I gave it up. I think I paid around 70 dollars for it. I wonder if they have a 30-day trial. I will check. I don't mind spending the money for something that works.

Pro is 300 bucks. I would pay if I could try it first and discovered it worked.

[Dr. Who]

That is too pricey for me. I do reasonably well writing using a keyboard. but I know my ability is rapidly diminishing. So I need some good voice software that will let me control everything.

Ideally one day we can use voice and thought to do and play seamlessly.
There are always workarounds - those commands you mentioned include select all, so you can always dictate in one platform and paste the result into another (like this forum). You should probably also get Google Assistant for your PC. It can help with a lot of mundane tasks that would otherwise require typing.

[Captain Obvious]

Dragon Naturally Speaking gets high marks for many things. I owned it about a decade ago. It did not work that well then. I gave it up. I think I paid around 70 dollars for it. I wonder if they have a 30-day trial. I will check. I don't mind spending the money for something that works.

I don't know how long ago you tried it but if it's been a while give it another shot maybe. The technology has really developed fast recently.

Dragon is kind of ideal since a lot of docs don't speak english well and it's adapting to that but I don't know how/if that would translate for practical use for someone who speaks english well.

[Captain Obvious]

Decade ago, sorry, just caught that now.

Yeah, try it again.

[MisterVeritis]

There are always workarounds - those commands you mentioned include select all, so you can always dictate in one platform and paste the result into another (like this forum). You should probably also get Google Assistant for your PC. It can help with a lot of mundane tasks that would otherwise require typing.
Suddenly I find myself interested again in speech to text.

I may take another look at the Google Cloud solution.

[MisterVeritis]

Decade ago, sorry, just caught that now.

Yeah, try it again.
I just got off the Nuance website. They are focused at businesses. I will contact them Monday to see what they suggest.

[Captain Obvious]

I just got off the Nuance website. They are focused at businesses. I will contact them Monday to see what they suggest.

I'm not familiar with Nuance, I know Dragon because it's the standard for doc documentation, that's my arena.

I think you want to use it for literature, there has to be an industry for that technology that's well established. I could ask my IT folks about it, it's really not my wheelhouse thing beyond the medical part.

[Dr. Who]

Here's another thing that might be of use - VR/AR glasses (instead of a monitor). They utilize eye tracking.
https://www.sizescreens.com/antvr-mix-ar-glasses-specifications/

[MisterVeritis]

I'm not familiar with Nuance, I know Dragon because it's the standard for doc documentation, that's my arena.

I think you want to use it for literature, there has to be an industry for that technology that's well established. I could ask my IT folks about it, it's really not my wheelhouse thing beyond the medical part.
Nuance is Dragon. I will contact their sales department on Monday. If it does what I want it to then 300 dollars is not an obstacle.

[MisterVeritis]

Here's another thing that might be of use - VR/AR glasses (instead of a monitor). They utilize eye tracking.
https://www.sizescreens.com/antvr-mix-ar-glasses-specifications/
I like my Oculus Rift VR.

[MisterVeritis]

I'm not familiar with Nuance, I know Dragon because it's the standard for doc documentation, that's my arena.

I think you want to use it for literature, there has to be an industry for that technology that's well established. I could ask my IT folks about it, it's really not my wheelhouse thing beyond the medical part.
I looked over all the Dragon software packages on their site (Nuance). Most are pricey for an individual.

[donttread]

Always put your money on the black dude, in this case the black chic.

Can o whoop ass


She sure as hell wasn't some 80's horror show chick who just screamed when the going got tough. She had a plan to break his grip and was doing pretty well.

[Captain Obvious]

She sure as hell wasn't some 80's horror show chick who just screamed when the going got tough. She had a plan to break his grip and was doing pretty well.

Yeah, I just wish she got some better shots in but she totally held her own.

[donttread]

Yeah, I just wish she got some better shots in but she totally held her own.

She was doing the right thing, trying to break the grip and get free. But that a good roundhouse to the nose woulda been cool.

[alexa]

Yeah, I just wish she got some better shots in but she totally held her own.
I read somewhere that she's an amateur boxer.

[Peter1469]

I read somewhere that she's an amateur boxer.

She was punching well.