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Captain Obvious
01-05-2019, 11:43 AM
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/05/682286587/house-democrats-introduce-anti-corruption-bill-as-symbolic-first-act


If the bill ever becomes law, it's unlikely to happen this year. Republicans control the Senate, President Trump is in the White House, and the GOP vehemently opposes the basic approach of HR 1.
"This is obviously a pretty radical expansion of the regulation of political speech," said David Keating, president of the conservative Institute for Free Speech. "If this bill had become law now," he said, anti-Trump groups "would find it very difficult to speak as effectively as they have over the past two years."
Some of the bill's provisions push the envelope, including reaching into state law. To settle the controversy over redistricting, the bill would simply take away the power of state legislatures to draw congressional districts and have independent commissions do it instead. That way, presumably, the local politicians could no longer gerrymander the districts to help their party and cripple the opposition.

Helena
01-05-2019, 11:46 AM
Anti-Corruption bill as titled by projectionists. It isn't what they want the dumb peoples to believe it is.

donttread
01-05-2019, 12:32 PM
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/05/682286587/house-democrats-introduce-anti-corruption-bill-as-symbolic-first-act


The feds will continue to chip away at state's rights, the cornerstone of our Republic, as long as we let them. They already have unconstitutionally intruded into education, drug policy, welfare and other major domains that belong to the states. We need anti corruption laws, but there is plenty of corruption at the federal level to tackle first.

Peter1469
01-05-2019, 12:47 PM
Some of those provisions are OK, but the ones that take power from the states need to be scrapped. We should be devolving power to the states.

donttread
01-05-2019, 12:53 PM
Anti-Corruption bill as titled by projectionists. It isn't what they want the dumb peoples to believe it is.

Orwellian doublespeak is very popular these days. For example a "Patriot Act" that allows them to throw an American citizen in a dark hole without due process. "Homeland Security " that spies on it's own.

Green Arrow
01-05-2019, 01:39 PM
Partisans should not be able to protect their majorities by controlling redistricting. It should be done by independent, non-partisan commissions. Multiple states already have those and they work fine. So that's good.

Expanding voter registration to fit 2019 instead of 1940 and making it easier for citizens to register to vote is good. Making Election Day a federal holiday is also good.

Felons should have their rights restored once they serve their time and nobody should be able to purge voter rolls without a background commission monitoring the process and a valid reason to be doing so. Also good.

Paper ballots are good, computers are too easy to hack and alter without leaving much evidence behind. The people who count the votes shouldn't be running for offices they'll be counting votes for. Good.

Failing to vote isn't valid reason to remove someone's voter registration. The 1965 VRA is clearly still needed. Good.

The entire campaign finance section is good.

The entire ethics section is good.

I'd have to read the bill in its entirety to get the full scope but so far I don't see what is there to complain about. I also don't see where the GOP accusation of it somehow infringing on freedom of speech is valid.

Chris
01-05-2019, 01:48 PM
Some of those provisions are OK, but the ones that take power from the states need to be scrapped. We should be devolving power to the states.

Also, any provisions regulating free speech.

Unless the law is to penalize people for corrupt grammar. :grin:

Sergeant Gleed
01-05-2019, 03:13 PM
Partisans should not be able to protect their majorities by controlling redistricting. It should be done by independent, non-partisan commissions. Multiple states already have those and they work fine. So that's good.

It should be done by COMPUTER following equitable rules like "each district must match, within 2%, the partisan divide of the state in the last census, as determined by congressional district voting records".

No such thing as a non-partisan commission. Especially if they have socialists on them.

Nobody can ever trust those liars.


Expanding voter registration to fit 2019 instead of 1940 and making it easier for citizens to register to vote is good. Making Election Day a federal holiday is also good.

Or, better yet, since EVERYONE who is a CITIZEN over 18 can register to vote if they want to, simply require valid ID to vote and require them to show up in person to show the ID.

Socialists hate that idea.

Because its perfectly fair and it stops cheating.


Felons should have their rights restored once they serve their time and nobody should be able to purge voter rolls without a background commission monitoring the process and a valid reason to be doing so. Also good.

Ah, nonsense. Simply make it a part of the law...oh shit, is it...that people convicted of felonies are not allowed to vote and then that's a permanent part of their sentence.

Want to vote? Don't rape anyone.

Easy, see?

Their body, their choice.


Paper ballots are good, computers are too easy to hack and alter without leaving much evidence behind. The people who count the votes shouldn't be running for offices they'll be counting votes for. Good.

The bill should include summary execution for anyone that "finds" handy-dandy spare ballot boxes after an election. The Rodents hate that idea, of course.


Failing to vote isn't valid reason to remove someone's voter registration. The 1965 VRA is clearly still needed. Good.

There's an easy solution for people who don't want their names removed from the voter rolls for failing to vote.

They need to get their lazy asses in to the polls and cast votes.

Duh.

And the process of removing the deadwood from the polls for not voting always gives the woodenheads multiple chances to declare themselves still viable vegetables and end the removal process.


The entire campaign finance section is good.

OH! That must mean "The First Amendment works, any person who is a citizen of the United States can donate as much of their own money as they desire, no limits, to promote the political candidate of their choice, as many candidates as they desire".

Anything else violates the first Amendment.

You do support the First Amendment, don't you?

No socialist ever does.

Captdon
01-05-2019, 04:20 PM
The states were supposed to set the districts up. If they weren't, the Constitution would have said so. It would have said not only how many seats and who could vote and who could serve but how the seats were to be set up. They didn't just forget that part. Leave the states alone.

Sergeant Gleed
01-05-2019, 04:47 PM
The states were supposed to set the districts up. If they weren't, the Constitution would have said so. It would have said not only how many seats and who could vote and who could serve but how the seats were to be set up. They didn't just forget that part. Leave the states alone.


No.

States like California and other Rodent-conquered holes are now actively registering Illegals to vote.

That's a violation of MY rights as a citizen, and no different when the same political party was declaring that blacks weren't citizens and thus couldn't vote.

Green Arrow
01-05-2019, 04:52 PM
Jesus...