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MisterVeritis
01-06-2019, 06:45 PM
Senator Cruz and Senator Lee propose term limits for the Congress. But we need more. We need to include judges and justices as well.

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to limiting the number of terms that a Member of Congress may serve.
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission by the Congress:

“Article —
“Section 1. No person who has served 3 terms as a Representative shall be eligible for election to the House of Representatives. For purposes of this section, the election of a person to fill a vacancy in the House of Representatives shall be included as 1 term in determining the number of terms that such person has served as a Representative if the person fills the vacancy for more than 1 year.
“Section 2. No person who has served 2 terms as a Senator shall be eligible for election or appointment to the Senate. For purposes of this section, the election or appointment of a person to fill a vacancy in the Senate shall be included as 1 term in determining the number of terms that such person has served as a Senator if the person fills the vacancy for more than 3 years.
“Section 3. No term beginning before the date of the ratification of this article shall be taken into account in determining eligibility for election or appointment under this article.”.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/1/text

Helena
01-06-2019, 07:02 PM
It's not going to pass. They know this and that's why they introduced it. Ted Cruz is a slimeball. dotcom?

MisterVeritis
01-06-2019, 07:04 PM
It's not going to pass. They know this and that's why they introduced it. Ted Cruz is a slimeball. dotcom?
The other Article V process goes through the state legislatures. It still stands a chance. If it fails we have slavery, a civil war, or both to look forward to.

Helena
01-06-2019, 07:07 PM
The other Article V process goes through the state legislatures. It still stands a chance. If it fails we have slavery, a civil war, or both to look forward to.
How much of a chance do you give it?

Be honest.

MisterVeritis
01-06-2019, 07:34 PM
How much of a chance do you give it?

Be honest.
The Convention of States process? Five years ago the best guess was it would take ten years to get enough states. We are at the five-year mark and have less than half. Arm up. Train up. Band together. There will be a war.

Green Arrow
01-06-2019, 08:03 PM
I favored term limits once but found a pretty good argument against them. It's fine for president and judges but I don't like the idea for members of Congress. Members of Congress are our representatives, their term limit is when the people of their district (or state in the case of senators) decide they no longer effectively represent them and vote them out. Someone in California shouldn't be able to tell someone in Tennessee that they don't get to keep their representative any more because they set an arbitrary limit on their term.

The only way I would support it is if each individual district (or state in the case of the senate) took a vote to determine if they wanted term limits on THEIR representative specifically and how long that term would be.

Orion Rules
01-06-2019, 08:17 PM
The Convention of States process? Five years ago the best guess was it would take ten years to get enough states. We are at the five-year mark and have less than half. Arm up. Train up. Band together. There will be a war.

Really, band together. Because there will be a war. Well, where at? As a war already started right inside this same forum. But never mind, what difference do term limits make when the rotten central banking system remains the same?

Just money talks, no matter who stands in between the central banking system and the little people who were not that important one time. Except when it was/is for votes someone was advertising for, while Mr. Obama was that Illinois train.

So, who cares, the United States Constitution has been overrided so many times because money talks. A form of having any power, what a lie that is. A piece of paper, with writing on it, could never be any higher than the very next note banking.

The swindle was the War Between the States, for a lie, that to kill their brothers as the enslavers gathered together to make sure it was brother against brother as the Civil War it was called, and then the same was done to the German nation.

Keep the useless con as all it ever was, that still to this day, there is no sure way to interpret its very own institutions. That anyone would believe that anything to do with it could be good, as the cons supplanted the Articles of Confederation.

Captdon
01-07-2019, 12:46 PM
I favored term limits once but found a pretty good argument against them. It's fine for president and judges but I don't like the idea for members of Congress. Members of Congress are our representatives, their term limit is when the people of their district (or state in the case of senators) decide they no longer effectively represent them and vote them out. Someone in California shouldn't be able to tell someone in Tennessee that they don't get to keep their representative any more because they set an arbitrary limit on their term.

The only way I would support it is if each individual district (or state in the case of the senate) took a vote to determine if they wanted term limits on THEIR representative specifically and how long that term would be.

Why shouldn't be allowed to keep a President as long as we want?

Helena
01-07-2019, 01:00 PM
The Convention of States process? Five years ago the best guess was it would take ten years to get enough states. We are at the five-year mark and have less than half. Arm up. Train up. Band together. There will be a war.

I admire your spirit, at least. Militias? in the modern era of our country haven't fared too well.

We don't, as a country/society have town squares and sense of community where a comprehensive sense of rising up would gain any real traction with numbers.

Do you disagree?

MisterVeritis
01-07-2019, 01:06 PM
I admire your spirit, at least. Militias? in the modern era of our country haven't fared too well.

We don't, as a country/society have town squares and sense of community where a comprehensive sense of rising up would gain any real traction with numbers.

Do you disagree?
A rebellion/civil war (or both at the same time) have a great chance of working well.


You can band together with a small number of people. When the time comes three or four standing together will fare better than three or four who are standing alone.

Green Arrow
01-07-2019, 01:09 PM
Why shouldn't be allowed to keep a President as long as we want?

The president runs the whole country. Too long in the tooth and he/she might not want to let go even when voted out.

donttread
01-07-2019, 06:50 PM
It's not going to pass. They know this and that's why they introduced it. Ted Cruz is a slimeball. dotcom?

Actually anything we are willing to vote "C" over will get the attention it deserves. Right now they KNOW they will collectively get 95% of the votes, while discouraging millions from voting at all. Even if all they do is steal and mis manage! Quite the gig!

Tahuyaman
01-07-2019, 09:10 PM
I support term limits for the simple reason that political office was never intended to be a career. With most politicians, their number one priority is to be reelected. It is naive to believe that they are there solely to serve their constituents.