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nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 08:18 PM
Tommy D'Alesandro Jr,was a strong contender for Governor of Maryland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Maryland) in 1954, but was forced to drop out due to being implicated in receiving undeclared money from Dominic Piracci, a parking garage owner convicted of fraud, conspiracy, and conspiracy to obstruct justice.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_Jr.#cite_note-3)

alexa
01-11-2019, 08:35 PM
Nancy Pelosi

Also, you curiously forgot this part, which oddly, probably doesn't fit your agenda.

Go figure, huh?


D'Alesandro was a strong contender for Governor of Maryland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Maryland) in 1954, but was forced to drop out due to being implicated in receiving undeclared money from Dominic Piracci, a parking garage owner convicted of fraud, conspiracy, and conspiracy to obstruct justice.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D%27Alesandro_Jr.#cite_note-3)D'Alesandro was later exonerated and never indicted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_Jr.

Pro-tip: When you have to go back 65 years to try to smear someone, you've lost already.

One of your slimier fails, actually.

:rofl:

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 08:39 PM
One thing I do admire about Nancy Pelosi is that you can spend a life time in public service making no more than $150K in anyone year. Live part time in two of the most expensive locations in the world. SF and DC and accumulate 100's of millions of dollars.

That is amazing

alexa
01-11-2019, 08:46 PM
I guess it is if you're simpleminded.

Her husband is an investment banker.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 08:51 PM
I can't hear you! Nor do I want to hear you!

alexa
01-11-2019, 08:51 PM
I can't hear you! Nor do I want to hear you!

That's because you're pathetic.

No problem.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 08:54 PM
I still can't hear you. Not that you ever say anything of importance anyway.

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 08:54 PM
I guess it is if you're simpleminded.

Her husband is an investment banker.

Ah and into my trap you fall! Now change her name from Pelosi to Trump.. change the party from D to R and perhaps there are abuses of office behind that.

We should investigate to know shouldn't we? Why has no one looked into this. Doesn't the Speaker of the House and Congress control regulations regarding banking? Not sure but I think so...... HMMM

Common
01-11-2019, 08:55 PM
One thing I do admire about Nancy Pelosi is that you can spend a life time in public service making no more than $150K in anyone year. Live part time in two of the most expensive locations in the world. SF and DC and accumulate 100's of millions of dollars.

That is amazing

Her husband owned Starkist tuna, pelosi at best was a lower middleclass italian from baltimore, from the way she talks she was a hs dropout

alexa
01-11-2019, 08:57 PM
Ah and into my trap you fall! Now change her name from Pelosi to Trump.. change the party from D to R and perhaps there are abuses of office behind that.

We should investigate to know shouldn't we? Why has no one looked into this. Doesn't the Speaker of the House and Congress control regulations regarding banking? Not sure but I think so...... HMMM

Knock yourself out.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 08:57 PM
The truth is the D'Alesandro family have been corrupt since they were mafia members in Italy. The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 08:59 PM
Knock yourself out.

LOL that is all you got? Come on now.. you don't even have one ounce of curiosity about that? If you don't why not?

I am interested to know how a very smart person like yourself doesn't at least wonder.

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:00 PM
Her husband owned Starkist tuna, pelosi at best was a lower middleclass italian from baltimore, from the way she talks she was a hs dropout
Her husband owns Financial Leasing Inc.

Her father was a Congressman and later mayor of Baltimore.

She graduated from Trinity College.

Anything else about which you'd like to be corrected?

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 09:02 PM
His son was also mayor of Baltimore for one term

His one term as mayor was dominated by civil unrest and budgetary troubles.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D%27Alesandro_III#cite_note-bio.dict-1) In 1968 D'Alesandro ordered the relocation of the East-West Expressway unstarted since 1941 to be rerouted through the Western Cemetery, followed by cancelling the project, followed by implementing a HUD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_and_Urban_Development_Act_of_1968) program to finance 475 of the vacant homes abandoned after they were previously condemned to create "homes for the poor". The homes were demolished in 1974, with the Rouse Company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouse_Company) creditors abandoning the project.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D%27Alesandro_III#cite_note-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D%27Alesandro_III#cite_note-5)
He was unable to respond effectively to the Baltimore riot of 1968 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_riot_of_1968) that followed the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King_Jr.), and National Guard troops were called in to control the situation. He would never run for another political office, choosing to go into private law practice. Years later, D'Alesandro insisted that the riots were not the reason that he walked away from politics.

As you can see he was also fraught with controversy and potential corrupt acts in building "housing for the poor". I lived in Baltimore at the time and he was not highly regarded by law abiding people.

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:03 PM
His son was also mayor of Baltimore for one term

His one term as mayor was dominated by civil unrest and budgetary troubles.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_III#cite_note-bio.dict-1) In 1968 D'Alesandro ordered the relocation of the East-West Expressway unstarted since 1941 to be rerouted through the Western Cemetery, followed by cancelling the project, followed by implementing a HUD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_and_Urban_Development_Act_of_1968) program to finance 475 of the vacant homes abandoned after they were previously condemned to create "homes for the poor". The homes were demolished in 1974, with the Rouse Company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouse_Company) creditors abandoning the project.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_III#cite_note-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_III#cite_note-5)
He was unable to respond effectively to the Baltimore riot of 1968 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_riot_of_1968) that followed the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King_Jr.), and National Guard troops were called in to control the situation. He would never run for another political office, choosing to go into private law practice. Years later, D'Alesandro insisted that the riots were not the reason that he walked away from politics.

As you can see he was also fraught with controversy and potential corrupt acts in building "housing for the poor". I lived in Baltimore at the time and he was not highly regarded by law abiding people.
You misspelled right wing nut bars.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 09:03 PM
For the record this isn't about Nancy Pelosi but about the entire D'Alesandro family and how it rose to fame and especially fortune on the backs of the poor.

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 09:04 PM
Her husband owns Financial Leasing Inc.





Her father was a Congressman and later mayor of Baltimore.

She graduated from Trinity College.

Anything else about which you'd like to be corrected?


Myself, I don't need corrected. I just want to know if he has taken advantage of her position for financial gain.



Not saying they have taken advantage of that for personal gain. Saying I don't know and an investigation is warranted. The public needs to know so we can make sure our democracy has not been attacked by corruption.



Agreed?

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:04 PM
For the record this isn't about Nancy Pelosi but about the entire D'Alesandro family and how it rose to fame and especially fortune on the backs of the poor.
Of course it is, that's why you chose the title you did..

Your altruism is a shining example for all.

:rofl:

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:05 PM
That quote box is a tricky one, isn't it?

Also, I wasn't talking to you.

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 09:06 PM
Investigation is needed

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:07 PM
Investigation is needed

I'm sure no one's thought of that before.

You should write your congressman.

Green Arrow
01-11-2019, 09:08 PM
Wasn’t the primary line of defense for Kavanaugh that even if he did it, it happened 30 years ago and that shouldn’t be held against him today?

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:08 PM
I don't particularly care for her, but she is beating Trump like a rented mule.

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:09 PM
Wasn’t the primary line of defense for Kavanaugh that even if he did it, it happened 30 years ago and that shouldn’t be held against him today?

That, and he likes beer.

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 09:12 PM
I'm sure no one's thought of that before.

You should write your congressman.


What do you think though? Do you think it is even possible there is wrongdoing that has occurred?

Admiral Ackbar
01-11-2019, 09:14 PM
I don't particularly care for her, but she is beating Trump like a rented mule.

Is she? Hmm I guess that is one view

Common Sense
01-11-2019, 09:26 PM
Tommy D'Alesandro Jr,was a strong contender for Governor of Maryland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Maryland) in 1954, but was forced to drop out due to being implicated in receiving undeclared money from Dominic Piracci, a parking garage owner convicted of fraud, conspiracy, and conspiracy to obstruct justice.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_Jr.#cite_note-3)

Lol...is this a joke?

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:28 PM
What do you think though? Do you think it is even possible there is wrongdoing that has occurred?

Anything's possible.

Likely is a different story.

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:29 PM
Lol...is this a joke?
Yeah, just not by intent.

alexa
01-11-2019, 09:29 PM
Is she? Hmm I guess that is one view

Yep, I call it *reality*

gamewell45
01-11-2019, 09:40 PM
One thing I do admire about Nancy Pelosi is that you can spend a life time in public service making no more than $150K in anyone year. Live part time in two of the most expensive locations in the world. SF and DC and accumulate 100's of millions of dollars.

That is amazing
Show's what good investing can do right? :grin:

Common Sense
01-11-2019, 09:48 PM
So it's bad that the Pelosi's are wealthy?

I thought conservatives liked people with good business sense.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 10:34 PM
Lol...is this a joke?
A joke? No, its the truth. Perhaps in Canada the truth is a joke, I'm not sure but what I posted is not a lie or particularly funny.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 10:35 PM
Show's what good investing can do right? :grin:

Like Hillary Clinton's investment that had a 1000 percent return.

nathanbforrest45
01-11-2019, 10:36 PM
So it's bad that the Pelosi's are wealthy?

I thought conservatives liked people with good business sense.

No one cares they are wealthy. They care they may have become wealthy by taking advantage of their political position. You don't think that is possible?

Common Sense
01-11-2019, 11:10 PM
A joke? No, its the truth. Perhaps in Canada the truth is a joke, I'm not sure but what I posted is not a lie or particularly funny.
Canada? Is that all you ever have? Lol...

Sorry, I just thought the OP was funny. I find it funny that you think it's daming or relevant to bring up a relation and event from 65 years ago.

Common Sense
01-11-2019, 11:11 PM
No one cares they are wealthy. They care they may have become wealthy by taking advantage of their political position. You don't think that is possible?

Anything is possible. Do you have any evidence of that?

Mister D
01-11-2019, 11:20 PM
Anything is possible. Do you have any evidence of that?

Why would anyone get into liberal democratic politics? Out of a sense of obligation?

pragmatic
01-12-2019, 12:05 AM
One thing I do admire about Nancy Pelosi is that you can spend a life time in public service making no more than $150K in anyone year. Live part time in two of the most expensive locations in the world. SF and DC and accumulate 100's of millions of dollars.

That is amazing

Rumor is she's a coupon clipper.

Stunning how much money one can save at the grocery store alone....

Beevee
01-12-2019, 12:11 AM
For the record this isn't about Nancy Pelosi but about the entire D'Alesandro family and how it rose to fame and especially fortune on the backs of the poor.

They all took courses at Trump University.

Common Sense
01-12-2019, 12:13 AM
Why would anyone get into liberal democratic politics? Out of a sense of obligation?

People get into politics for a variety of reasons.

The Pelosis have made their money in real estate and investments.

pragmatic
01-12-2019, 12:17 AM
I don't particularly care for her, but she is beating Trump like a rented mule.

Don't disagree.

And if Pelosi and The Donald ever get into a stare down contest.....my money is on Nancy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUqPhIGVAAAQPpp.jpg

Mister D
01-12-2019, 12:18 AM
People get into politics for a variety of reasons.

The Pelosis have made their money in real estate and investments.

Most of which involve self-interest of some kind. Or maybe Nancy just wanted to give something back.

Seriously, can you consider the latter proposition without smiling?

nathanbforrest45
01-12-2019, 12:19 AM
Anything is possible. Do you have any evidence of that?


Everyone on your side of the aisle believes that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians. Do you have any evidence of that?

We do know that Nancy Pelosi had a Chinese spy driving for her for a number of years. What secrets did she give away?

gamewell45
01-12-2019, 12:22 AM
Like Hillary Clinton's investment that had a 1000 percent return.
If only I could get that return on my money......

Common Sense
01-12-2019, 12:33 AM
Everyone on your side of the aisle believes that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians. Do you have any evidence of that?

We do know that Nancy Pelosi had a Chinese spy driving for her for a number of years. What secrets did she give away?

I've never claimed there is proof that Trump colluded with Russia.

You can claim Pelosi used her office to make her millions. You could also claim she used her office to create a harem of child sex slaves used for satanic rituals in a subterranean Bond villain type lair.

I doubt you have the same suspicions for the wealthier Republican members of congress.

Common Sense
01-12-2019, 12:44 AM
Most of which involve self-interest of some kind. Or maybe Nancy just wanted to give something back.

Seriously, can you consider the latter proposition without smiling?

I'd wager that the vast majority of people's motivations, when it comes getting up in the morning and going work, is based in a self interest. However, you can make a lot more money outside of public office.

I think most people who enter into politics do so because they think they can make a change that aligns with their values. Most come to realize the political system is a game that involves money, power and influence. Certainly some take advantage of their office in one way or another.

Tahuyaman
01-12-2019, 01:49 AM
Tommy D'Alesandro Jr,was a strong contender for Governor of Maryland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Maryland) in 1954, but was forced to drop out due to being implicated in receiving undeclared money from Dominic Piracci, a parking garage owner convicted of fraud, conspiracy, and conspiracy to obstruct justice.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_Jr.#cite_note-3) But once he had a drink with Donald Trump.

hanger4
01-12-2019, 07:01 AM
We do know that Nancy Pelosi had a Chinese spy driving for her for a number of years. What secrets did she give away?That was Dianne Feinstein

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 07:29 AM
Like Hillary Clinton's investment that had a 1000 percent return.

Cattle. Who knew that was such a good investment.

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 07:31 AM
No one cares they are wealthy. They care they may have become wealthy by taking advantage of their political position. You don't think that is possible?

Pelosi is pushing legislation to require presidents to provide 10 years of their tax returns. Perhaps Congress critters should as well, or at least the leadership. I bet we would find all sorts of conflicts of interests if we got a look at those tax records.

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 07:32 AM
Canada? Is that all you ever have? Lol...

Sorry, I just thought the OP was funny. I find it funny that you think it's daming or relevant to bring up a relation and event from 65 years ago.
It is similar to how the Kennedy's became rich. Interesting history. But that is it.

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 07:35 AM
Why would anyone get into liberal democratic politics? Out of a sense of obligation?

Good question. On my last deployment to Iraq we had a Pennsylvania National Guard unit attached to us. As an aside, politicians often join their state National Guard because it is a perfect place to make contacts and get military creds. Talking to many of the officers (some of who were elected officials back in the real world) said that from their experience a lot of young men picked dems over repubs because the dems had better parties (women, booze, and drugs). I was shocked to hear that.

Captdon
01-12-2019, 08:51 AM
Wasn’t the primary line of defense for Kavanaugh that even if he did it, it happened 30 years ago and that shouldn’t be held against him today?

No, the primary thing was he didn't need to defend himself against a baseless accusation. Were you in a coma?

Captdon
01-12-2019, 08:52 AM
I don't particularly care for her, but she is beating Trump like a rented mule.

Oh, did the government open up?

Captdon
01-12-2019, 08:55 AM
Cattle. Who knew that was such a good investment.

Clinton did.

Captdon
01-12-2019, 08:57 AM
Pelosi is pushing legislation to require presidents to provide 10 years of their tax returns. Perhaps Congress critters should as well, or at least the leadership. I bet we would find all sorts of conflicts of interests if we got a look at those tax records.

Congress cannot change the qualifications for being President. Tax records isn't one of them.

DGUtley
01-12-2019, 08:58 AM
Wasn’t the primary line of defense for Kavanaugh that even if he did it, it happened 30 years ago and that shouldn’t be held against him today?

No. The primary line of defense was that these were unsubstantiated allegations without a single corroborating witness that did not come up when he was background checked for the CA but only surfaced thirty years thereafter and only when he was nominated to SCOTUS and then held until the last minute by the D's.

Admiral Ackbar
01-12-2019, 09:03 AM
Anything's possible.

Likely is a different story.

Of course and that is why we need an investigation! It is possible that Trump colluded with Russia (whatever that means). Not likely, and there is no evidence of that... yet investigation proceeds. It is about our democracy. Many just want to make sure Nancy was not selling our democracy for personal gain.

Investigate

nathanbforrest45
01-12-2019, 09:07 AM
That was Dianne Feinstein

Feinstein, Pelosi, what is the difference? They are both scummy Democrat liars.

nathanbforrest45
01-12-2019, 09:09 AM
Clinton did.

So did Wild West cattle rustlers

Admiral Ackbar
01-12-2019, 10:48 AM
What I noticed in this thread is once facts and intelligent conversation about what was going on with these allegations against Trump started AND once we started looking at the glass house of Nancy Pelosi, the Clintons etc..

All the leftists bailed on the thread.

I have been on this forum about 6 months and notice that trend replay itself over and over.

alexa
01-12-2019, 01:06 PM
What I noticed in this thread is once facts and intelligent conversation about what was going on with these allegations against Trump started AND once we started looking at the glass house of Nancy Pelosi, the Clintons etc..

All the leftists bailed on the thread.

I have been on this forum about 6 months and notice that trend replay itself over and over.
That's funny.

I noticed once the *liberals* left, the facts and intelligent conversation did the same.

Beevee
01-12-2019, 01:14 PM
What I noticed in this thread is once facts and intelligent conversation about what was going on with these allegations against Trump started AND once we started looking at the glass house of Nancy Pelosi, the Clintons etc..

All the leftists bailed on the thread.

I have been on this forum about 6 months and notice that trend replay itself over and over.

The intelligent threads is pointing out Trump's numerous failings and the ludicrous deplorables denials.

Green Arrow
01-12-2019, 01:26 PM
What I noticed in this thread is once facts and intelligent conversation about what was going on with these allegations against Trump started AND once we started looking at the glass house of Nancy Pelosi, the Clintons etc..

All the leftists bailed on the thread.

I have been on this forum about 6 months and notice that trend replay itself over and over.

Unfortunately, I have a life outside this forum. My wife, my dog, my faith, and my job come first, forum comes second.

pragmatic
01-12-2019, 03:36 PM
The intelligent threads is pointing out Trump's numerous failings and the ludicrous deplorables denials.


"The intelligent threads ARE pointing out Trump's numerous failings and the ludicrous deplorable's denials".


When slingin' insults about intelligence always double check your grammar. (Threw in the missed apostrophe as a freebie...)

Tahuyaman
01-12-2019, 03:43 PM
Pelosi is pushing legislation to require presidents to provide 10 years of their tax returns. Perhaps Congress critters should as well, or at least the leadership. I bet we would find all sorts of conflicts of interests if we got a look at those tax records.

She certainly would not hold herself to those same conditions.

alexa
01-12-2019, 03:45 PM
Of course and that is why we need an investigation! It is possible that Trump colluded with Russia (whatever that means). Not likely, and there is no evidence of that... yet investigation proceeds. It is about our democracy. Many just want to make sure Nancy was not selling our democracy for personal gain.

Investigate

Knock yourself out

Tahuyaman
01-12-2019, 03:49 PM
Wasn’t the primary line of defense for Kavanaugh that even if he did it, it happened 30 years ago and that shouldn’t be held against him today?
No, that wasn't the primary line of defense. It's was that the accusation was false. The accusation being more than 30 years ago was supposed to add credibility to the reason no evidence existed.

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 05:11 PM
The intelligent threads is pointing out Trump's numerous failings and the ludicrous deplorables denials.


Your girl lost because of her deplorables comment.

Tahuyaman
01-12-2019, 05:18 PM
Your girl lost because of her deplorables comment.That was part of it. Failing to release the transcripts of her comments while addressing special interest groups was another. Her general lack of candor on several issues and past events was yet another. She was considered untrustworthy even by many of her supporters.


Her loss was a cumulative thing.

pragmatic
01-12-2019, 06:25 PM
That was part of it. Failing to release the transcripts of her comments while addressing special interest groups was another. Her general lack of candor on several issues and past events was yet another. She was considered untrustworthy even by many of her supporters.


Her loss was a cumulative thing.
Agree.

Her campaign strategy in the upper mid-west was a large contributor.

Apparently it was the opinion of the campaign that those states were a lock. Expensive mistake...





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Green Arrow
01-12-2019, 06:30 PM
Agree.

Her campaign strategy in the upper mid-west was a large contributor.

Apparently it was the opinion of the campaign that those states were a lock. Expensive mistake...





..

She likely would have won Wisconsin had she not ignored them once the primary was over.

Tahuyaman
01-12-2019, 07:05 PM
Agree.

Her campaign strategy in the upper mid-west was a large contributor.

Apparently it was the opinion of the campaign that those states were a lock. Expensive mistake...





..

She took them for granted and basically ignored them. she thought that they'd vote for her no matter what.

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 08:57 PM
She likely would have won Wisconsin had she not ignored them once the primary was over.

If there was no electoral college nobody would campaign in Wisconsin.

Green Arrow
01-12-2019, 09:13 PM
If there was no electoral college nobody would campaign in Wisconsin.

Disagree. Every state is potentially relevant when every vote matters.

Peter1469
01-12-2019, 09:27 PM
Disagree. Every state is potentially relevant when every vote matters.

Ha- small states would never see a presidential candidate. :smiley:

Green Arrow
01-12-2019, 09:30 PM
Ha- small states would never see a presidential candidate. :smiley:

They barely do now. Most campaigning is done in about 5-10 states.

Admiral Ackbar
01-12-2019, 09:32 PM
The Electoral College is all that stands between us and tyranny.