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Just AnotherPerson
01-25-2019, 09:13 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/officials-rejected-jared-kushner-for-top-secret-security-clearance-but-were-overruled/ar-BBSHVV3?ocid=spartanntp

WASHINGTON — Jared Kushner's application for a top secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.


The official, Carl Kline, is a former Pentagon employee who was installed as director of the personnel security office in the Executive Office of the President in May 2017. Kushner's was one of at least 30 cases in which Kline overruled career security experts and approved a top secret clearance (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/government-accountability-office-breaks-tradition-name-security-clearance-process-high-n841096) for incoming Trump officials despite unfavorable information (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/scores-top-white-house-officials-lack-permanent-security-clearances-n848191), the two sources said. They said the number of rejections that were overruled was unprecedented — it had happened only once in the three years preceding Kline's arrival.


The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information, said the Trump White House attracted many people with untraditional backgrounds who had complicated financial and personal histories, some of which raised red flags.

Kushner's FBI background check (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/house-democrats-probe-how-jared-kushner-got-security-clearance-n961721) identified questions about his family's business, his foreign contacts, his foreign travel and meetings he had during the campaign, the sources said, declining to be more specific.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 09:47 AM
Kushner's financial ties are so complex security experts said it would be impossible to vet them properly.

We saw similar things with Clinton's advisers. The security experts openly "revolted" over being forced to grant clearances to people who did not qualify. Although most of the issues with them was habitual drug use.

alexa
01-25-2019, 09:49 AM
Kushner's financial ties are so complex security experts said it would be impossible to vet them properly.

We saw similar things with Clinton's advisers. The security experts openly "revolted" over being forced to grant clearances to people who did not qualify. Although most of the issues with them was habitual drug use.

Nice try.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 09:52 AM
Nice try.
I thought so. :wink:

Lummy
01-25-2019, 09:57 AM
Nice try.

It appeared to me that Bill Richardson, Clinton's Energy Secretary, was intimately involved with Chinese theft of US nuclear classified information.

Helena
01-25-2019, 10:10 AM
What is an untraditional background?

Beevee
01-25-2019, 10:17 AM
Why does it matter any more.
Russia owns America.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 02:18 PM
Why does it matter any more.
Russia owns America.

That is both an incredibly stupid comment and utterly incorrect. Congratulations.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2019, 04:16 PM
Kushner's financial ties are so complex security experts said it would be impossible to vet them properly.

We saw similar things with Clinton's advisers. The security experts openly "revolted" over being forced to grant clearances to people who did not qualify. Although most of the issues with them was habitual drug use.

We even had a president who had a past relationship with a domestic terrorist and the partisan Democrats were silent about that.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2019, 04:18 PM
Why does it matter any more.
Russia owns America.

And what foreign policy decision do you point to which support that idiotic statement?

Beevee
01-25-2019, 06:07 PM
That is both an incredibly stupid comment and utterly incorrect. Congratulations.

Stop living in your dreamland. Nothing happens without a Putin nod of approval.

Beevee
01-25-2019, 06:08 PM
And what foreign policy decision do you point to which support that idiotic statement?

Stop believing that Trump makes foreign policy decisions. Putin makes them for you.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2019, 06:16 PM
Stop believing that Trump makes foreign policy decisions. Putin makes them for you.


If Putin is making those decisions, he’s doing a poor job of supporting himself.

Tahuyaman
01-25-2019, 06:18 PM
Stop living in your dreamland. Nothing happens without a Putin nod of approval.

Comments like that suggest that one is either not very smart, a hack or both.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 07:23 PM
Stop living in your dreamland. Nothing happens without a Putin nod of approval.

See above....

Beevee
01-25-2019, 07:38 PM
See above....

Up until today you never believed what happened would happen.

Putin has Trump by the balls.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 08:07 PM
Up until today you never believed what happened would happen.

Putin has Trump by the balls.
lol

Dr. Who
01-25-2019, 08:42 PM
As between Putin and Trump - Trump is a babe in the woods. Putin may well own Trump's backside, lock, stock and barrel, but he's never going to use it other than to make subtle alterations in US foreign policy. Anything obvious would have Trump in Federal Prison in two shakes of a lamb's tail and Putin is anything but stupid.

I won't say that Putin is a genius in general but he is a rather good judge of character and a skillful manager of human relationships. To this day, no one from his inner circle has turned against him with compromising information, or by leading political dissent. The ramifications of turning on Putin are clearly more like turning on a Mafia boss, but he has chosen more skillfully than Mafia bosses. The same cannot be said of Trump who is too self-obsessed to be able to read the character of others. He chooses people based on their use to him and their ability to be bought. As a result, when push comes to shove and Trump can't throw money at the situation to make it go away, they are being hung out to dry and any financially based loyalty evaporates.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 09:00 PM
To believe that Putin owns Trump seems to be an indication of a deep mental illness.

alexa
01-25-2019, 09:01 PM
To believe that Putin owns Trump seems to be an indication of a deep mental illness.
Hardly, it's an excellent working hypothesis given the facts as we know them.

Peter1469
01-25-2019, 09:09 PM
Hardly, it's an excellent working hypothesis given the facts as we know them.


I laughed.

alexa
01-25-2019, 09:27 PM
I laughed.

I care deeply.

Safety
01-25-2019, 10:55 PM
To believe that Putin owns Trump seems to be an indication of a deep mental illness.

I think to deny such a relationship exists with the information that we know today, is a textbook case of denial and belief perseverance.

Peter1469
01-26-2019, 06:03 AM
I think to deny such a relationship exists with the information that we know today, is a textbook case of denial and belief perseverance.

We have no information to suggest that Trump is Putin's bitch. If there were such evidence, the Department of Justice would not be dragging this out. Can you imagine the DoJ dragging out an investigation after they have evidence that the President of the United States is compromised by a foreign power?