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Just AnotherPerson
01-31-2019, 03:13 PM
I was losing hope on this one. But, hope is rekindled. Lawmakers are back on, in trying to end our support to the Saudis.


Wednesday, January 30, 2019

Lawmakers Reintroduce War Powers Resolution To End Carnage in Yemen and Reclaim Congress' Constitutional Authority

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/30/lawmakers-reintroduce-war-powers-resolution-end-carnage-yemen-and-reclaim-congress


With the government now reopened, a the newly-elected Congress in session, and the U.S. still complicit (https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/08/10/us-complicit-child-slaughter-yemen) in the world's worst humanitarian disaster, a bipartisan group of Senators and House members—led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.)—officially re-introduced a War Powers Resolution on Wednesday in order to block further U.S. military participation in the Saudi-led war on Yemen.

While the same resolution in December passed the Senate in an historic bipartisan vote (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/12/13/historic-victory-senate-votes-end-us-involvement-unauthorized-war-yemen), it was not taken up for a vote in the Republican-controlled House at that time. But now that Democrats control the lower chamber, Rep. Khanna argued the people of Yemen can wait no longer.

With an estimated 14 million people on the brink of famine and 85,000 children already dead as a result of the war, Khanna said "the U.S.-Saudi military campaign in Yemen has triggered the world's worst humanitarian crisis." Now, he added, is time "to end U.S. military participation in the Saudi regime's war in Yemen by reasserting Congress' constitutional role on matters of war and peace."

Peter1469
01-31-2019, 05:42 PM
I believe the US is relying on the 2001 authorization for the use of military force to attack al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula- which is in Yemen and is seen as the most capable transnational terrorist group these days.

Green Arrow
01-31-2019, 06:57 PM
I believe the US is relying on the 2001 authorization for the use of military force to attack al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula- which is in Yemen and is seen as the most capable transnational terrorist group these days.

Congress stretched too far on that one, it should never have been allowed to operate as an open-ended, multi-national catch-all.

Just AnotherPerson
02-01-2019, 12:03 AM
I believe the US is relying on the 2001 authorization for the use of military force to attack al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula- which is in Yemen and is seen as the most capable transnational terrorist group these days.
Yes that is true. As we speak reps are working on the AUMF. It was never meant to be a blank check, and it is outdated. It is also said that the Saudis were using Al Qaeda as mercenaries to fight the Houthis in Yemen. And we are backing them. We have been aligning ourselves with those we once called terrorists. But we also do strikes on them now and again. https://journal-neo.org/2018/08/22/us-saudis-enlist-al-qaeda-for-yemen-war/ The AUMF needs revised or ended.

We seem to call out other nations as terrorists when they really aren't doing much of anything. Then we align ourselves with people like Saudi Arabia, Al Qaeda. This is the reality that we live in. We are in dire need of change. https://providencemag.com/2018/08/strange-bedfellows-is-the-us-supporting-al-qaeda-in-yemen/

Just AnotherPerson
02-01-2019, 12:04 AM
Congress stretched too far on that one, it should never have been allowed to operate as an open-ended, multi-national catch-all.

It wasn't supposed to be. It needs fixed for sure.

Just AnotherPerson
02-01-2019, 12:13 AM
I believe the US is relying on the 2001 authorization for the use of military force to attack al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula- which is in Yemen and is seen as the most capable transnational terrorist group these days.

Yes this is also true. But we don't need to be aligned with the Saudis to do it. They are two different matters really. But you are right. But us aligning ourselves with a terrorist nation who is committing genocide is unreal. We should take our hands out of that. Our nations should never prosper off of genocide. Things are not better in Yemen, it is just forgotten that is all. Out of sight, out of mind. I gave the reps hell over their lack of action. None will have my vote if they don't do the right thing.

Peter1469
02-01-2019, 05:36 AM
Yes that is true. As we speak reps are working on the AUMF. It was never meant to be a blank check, and it is outdated. It is also said that the Saudis were using Al Qaeda as mercenaries to fight the Houthis in Yemen. And we are backing them. We have been aligning ourselves with those we once called terrorists. But we also do strikes on them now and again. https://journal-neo.org/2018/08/22/us-saudis-enlist-al-qaeda-for-yemen-war/ The AUMF needs revised or ended.

We seem to call out other nations as terrorists when they really aren't doing much of anything. Then we align ourselves with people like Saudi Arabia, Al Qaeda. This is the reality that we live in. We are in dire need of change. https://providencemag.com/2018/08/strange-bedfellows-is-the-us-supporting-al-qaeda-in-yemen/
Al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia (AQAI) is doing things. They are planning attacks in the West, and in specifically in the US. They happen to have the most experienced and creative bomb-makers. I suspect that whoever the President is- the US will continue to hunt these guys down and kill them.

Peter1469
02-01-2019, 05:38 AM
It wasn't supposed to be. It needs fixed for sure.
The AUMF was written broadly by Congress and they knew what they approved. Congress just regrets it now.

Just AnotherPerson
02-01-2019, 02:22 PM
The AUMF was written broadly by Congress and they knew what they approved. Congress just regrets it now.
I do not agree with this. It was written during a time of national emergency. But that time was near 17 years ago. I do not think they intended to give away their congressional powers permanently. They just wanted nothing to be in the way of ending terror. We wanted to give the president the power to strike the enemy immediately with nothing in his way. I do not believe they were thinking that far ahead. We were a nation in shock. There was only one congresswoman who was against it, and it was for this very reason. Everyone else was ready to kill the enemy.

Peter1469
02-01-2019, 05:43 PM
I do not agree with this. It was written during a time of national emergency. But that time was near 17 years ago. I do not think they intended to give away their congressional powers permanently. They just wanted nothing to be in the way of ending terror. We wanted to give the president the power to strike the enemy immediately with nothing in his way. I do not believe they were thinking that far ahead. We were a nation in shock. There was only one congresswoman who was against it, and it was for this very reason. Everyone else was ready to kill the enemy.

They could have added a time limit....

Captdon
02-01-2019, 05:55 PM
They could have added a time limit....

I doubt any of them thought it would stretch out this long. I think a new AUMF is in order.

Captdon
02-01-2019, 05:57 PM
Yes that is true. As we speak reps are working on the AUMF. It was never meant to be a blank check, and it is outdated. It is also said that the Saudis were using Al Qaeda as mercenaries to fight the Houthis in Yemen. And we are backing them. We have been aligning ourselves with those we once called terrorists. But we also do strikes on them now and again. https://journal-neo.org/2018/08/22/us-saudis-enlist-al-qaeda-for-yemen-war/ The AUMF needs revised or ended.

We seem to call out other nations as terrorists when they really aren't doing much of anything. Then we align ourselves with people like Saudi Arabia, Al Qaeda. This is the reality that we live in. We are in dire need of change. https://providencemag.com/2018/08/strange-bedfellows-is-the-us-supporting-al-qaeda-in-yemen/

If Yemen is mentioned is in it, it will not pass.

Just AnotherPerson
02-01-2019, 06:32 PM
They could have added a time limit....

I think our nation was in shock they probably didn't thing that far ahead. But what ever it was, it was a mistake in my opinion.