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MMC
02-13-2019, 10:55 AM
The Senate will hold a vote on the Green New Deal, an environmental and energy plan touted by progressives, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (https://thehill.com/people/mitch-mcconnell) (R-Ky.) said on Tuesday.

McConnell told reporters after a meeting of the Senate Republican caucus that he has “great interest” in the plan, which would spell an end for coal, a key economic driver in McConnell’s home state of Kentucky, while promising new jobs for out-of-work miners and other workers.

“We’ll give everybody an opportunity to go on record and see how they feel about the Green New Deal,” McConnell said......snip~

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-e...-set-up-vote-on-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal (https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/429635-mcconnell-to-set-up-vote-on-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal)


Ahahahahaha…..McConnell is setting up the Demos to see who will support it on record. Getting them on record so they can't just say whatever. This is a smart move by McConnell. Not only does it get the Demos on Record. But he also gets those Demos running for the Presidency on record. Now lets see if Kamala, Warren, Sparticus Booker and others give that full throated support. What say ye?

Common
02-13-2019, 11:34 AM
Hes doing it to put democrats on the spot of having to Declare whether they are for it or against it, Either way it wont pass, smart move by McConnel they cant run away from their vote in 2020

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 11:35 AM
I think this is a smart thing to do. Get everyone on the record. Force them to take a public stand on this. I guess some could take the Obama way out and vote "present" on this. That way they could cherry pick elements of this issue.

MMC
02-13-2019, 11:39 AM
Hes doing it to put democrats on the spot of having to Declare whether they are for it or against it, Either way it wont pass, smart move by McConnel they cant run away from their vote in 2020

Its working. This Demo considers a vote sabotage.


https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Markey1-396x600.png

MMC
02-13-2019, 11:40 AM
I think this is a smart thing to do. Get everyone on the record. Force them to take a public stand on this. I guess some could take the Obama way out and vote "present" on this. That way they could cherry pick elements of this issue.

Sparticus Booker was all in while on MSDNC.

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 11:58 AM
Sparticus Booker was all in while on MSDNC.


He should be on the public record. Not just with the viewers of MSLSD.

Green Arrow
02-13-2019, 11:58 AM
Excellent. Time to see which Democrats stay and which ones get a primary challenger in their next re-election bid.

MMC
02-13-2019, 12:36 PM
Well, then AOC and the Socialists better make sure they got some money to primary all those that vote against Green New Deal.


For some reason.....I don't think they have the money to compete with the DNC.

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 12:56 PM
Its working. This Demo considers a vote sabotage.


https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Markey1-396x600.png
Why woud he consider it sabotage to put people on record as to where they stand on the latest liberal position? Is he frightened of letting the people know where they stand on this?

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 12:59 PM
Excellent. Time to see which Democrats stay and which ones get a primary challenger in their next re-election bid.


Who will be looking at a primary challenger? Those who vote for it or those who vote against it?

valley ranch
02-13-2019, 01:05 PM
Yep ```

Green Arrow
02-13-2019, 01:10 PM
Well, then AOC and the Socialists better make sure they got some money to primary all those that vote against Green New Deal.


For some reason.....I don't think they have the money to compete with the DNC.

Are you in favor of the Democratic Party establishment then?

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 01:20 PM
This is good stuff. Only a liberal will complain about their agenda being put to a vote and having that vote be on the public record.

MMC
02-13-2019, 01:43 PM
Why woud he consider it sabotage to put people on record as to where they stand on the latest liberal position? Is he frightened of letting the people know where they stand on this?

Yep typical Democrat.....can't hope for protection from the lame stream and a 30 second soundbite.

MMC
02-13-2019, 01:45 PM
Are you in favor of the Democratic Party establishment then?

Nope.....but then I am being realistic about the money that Socialists would have to compete with going against the Demos. Also there is that Lame Stream Media to protect Demos.

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 02:34 PM
Nope.....but then I am being realistic about the money that Socialists would have to compete with going against the Demos. Also there is that Lame Stream Media to protect Demos.


The new so called democratic socialist movement depends on hiding their agenda. The more we know about them, the more their opposition grows. They need to deceive people.

MMC
02-13-2019, 02:39 PM
The new so called democratic socialist movement depends on hiding their agenda. The more we know about them, the more their opposition grows. They need to deceive people.

Socialism/Communism lite. Pretty much say it all. Hence all the coercion and mandating of the American People.

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 03:10 PM
Socialism/Communism lite. Pretty much say it all. Hence all the coercion and mandating of the American People.

It's basically a communist oriented ideology, but they camouflage it by calling it "democratic socialism". There's nothing democratic about it. It's about the centralization of power with a handful of elites. They would call it something other than a politburo.

MMC
02-13-2019, 03:14 PM
It's basically a communist oriented ideology, but they camouflage it by calling it "democratic socialism". There's nothing democratic about it. It's about the centralization of power with a handful of elites. They would call it something other than a politburo.



The 'Green New Deal': A Radical Mandate for Government Control of American Society

Its scope and mandate for legislative authority amounts to a radical grant of power to Washington over Americans’ lives, homes, businesses, travel, banking, and more.

Early on, under “Jurisdiction,” the document makes clear its grandiose philosophical vision: “The select committee shall have authority to develop a detailed national, industrial, economic mobilization plan for the transition of the United States economy to become greenhouse gas emissions neutral and to significantly draw down greenhouse gases from the atmosphere and oceans and to promote economic and environmental justice and equality.”

In addition to achieving its goal of “meeting 100% of national power demand through renewable sources,” the document also repeatedly states the Green New Deal will advance non-environmental projects, such as, “social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice.”

Between its calls for “upgrading” homes and overhauling travel, public infrastructure, and even the way Americans consume electricity, the plan leaves virtually no facet of everyday life untouched.

The proposed committee would also have seemingly total oversight of American industry, with a mandate for pushing union membership.....snip~

https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-radical-mandate-government-con (https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-radical-mandate-government-con)

The Committee, Right?

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 03:28 PM
Of course they would find a deceptive name which includes the word "committee". Probably also the word "democratic" Committe to advance democratic solutions. CADS committee.

Tahuyaman
02-13-2019, 08:09 PM
I have a question. Does this green new deal apply to China and India?

hanger4
02-13-2019, 08:19 PM
Excellent. Time to see which Democrats stay and which ones get a primary challenger in their next re-election bid.Who gets the primary challenger, the votes for or against ??

Green Arrow
02-13-2019, 08:56 PM
Who gets the primary challenger, the votes for or against ??

Votes against. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the Democratic establishment tried to primary the grassroots out.

Peter1469
02-14-2019, 07:16 AM
McConnell calls Dem's bluff- will bring Green New Deal to the floor for a vote (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/green-new-deal-co-author-sen-markey-mocked-for-accusing-mcconnell-of-rushing-senate-vote)

This should kill this economic destroyer of a bill. And get Senators on the record. Dems are not happy.


One of the co-authors of the Green New Deal (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-cotton-unloads-on-aocs-green-new-deal-says-media-helped-to-cover-up-most-radical-parts-of-proposal) is slamming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., for announcing he’s bringing the resolution to a vote (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-to-bring-green-new-deal-to-vote-forcing-2020-democrats-to-officially-sign-their-name-onto-radical-plan).

Last week, Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., introduced a sprawling blueprint of an environmental and economic overhaul that has gotten the support of numerous Democrats, including most of the candidates who have announced 2020 presidential runs.


“Don’t let Mitch McConnell fool you: this is nothing but an attempt to sabotage the movement we are building. He wants to silence your voice so Republicans don’t have to explain why they are climate change deniers. McConnell wants this to be the end, this is just the beginning,” Markey tweeted. “This isn't a new Republican trick. By rushing a vote on the #GreenNewDeal resolution, Republicans want to avoid a true national debate & kill our efforts to organize. We’re having the first national conversation on climate change in a decade. We can’t let Republicans sabotage it.”

Well, duh. The proposal is insane.

MMC
02-14-2019, 08:05 AM
I have a question. Does this green new deal apply to China and India?

No.....the Demos know they have no way to force China or India to comply.

Peter1469
02-14-2019, 08:07 AM
Sorry about the dupe thread.

MMC
02-14-2019, 08:07 AM
This is good stuff. Only a liberal will complain about their agenda being put to a vote and having that vote be on the public record.

Liz Cheney intro'd the New Green Deal in the House for the record. Then asked the Demos on the Committee if they supported the deal. Not one answered. :laugh:

ripmeister
02-14-2019, 01:49 PM
I'll be interested to see how my Senator Sherrod Brown votes on this. He is the only potential candidate so far to not explicitly sign on to this proposal. He was smart in doing that.

alexa
02-14-2019, 01:51 PM
McConnell calls Dem's bluff- will bring Green New Deal to the floor for a vote (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/green-new-deal-co-author-sen-markey-mocked-for-accusing-mcconnell-of-rushing-senate-vote)

This should kill this economic destroyer of a bill. And get Senators on the record. Dems are not happy.





Well, duh. The proposal is insane.
Vote present and move along.

Mitch has lost more than a few mph off his fastball.

Peter1469
02-14-2019, 02:04 PM
Vote present and move along.

Mitch has lost more than a few mph off his fastball.
Did he ever have a fast-ball?

alexa
02-14-2019, 02:19 PM
Did he ever have a fast-ball?
Probably not.

ripmeister
02-14-2019, 02:31 PM
Probably not.

Just a knuckler.

Tahuyaman
02-14-2019, 03:16 PM
I think this is a smart thing to do. Get everyone on the record. Force them to take a public stand on this.


I guess some could take the Obama way out and vote "present" on this. That way they could cherry pick elements of this issue.This is what will happen. Not much of a surprise.

However, eventually everyone will need to go on record where they stand on this.