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Common
03-14-2019, 06:02 AM
If you want to read something honest and blunt about Public schools not only in NYC but elsewhere too read this


There’s not a lot wrong with New York City’s public schools that couldn’t be improved with more studious students. And, critically, with far fewer of the unserious, disruptive, sometimes violent types who populate the city’s least functional schools. Harsh, but true.

Disorder is endemic in New York classrooms. Teachers and staff complain bitterly to The Post of schoolhouse anarchy; the head of the city teachers’ union is raising alarms — and Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza, *obsessed as he is with peripheral social issues, once again is out to lunch.


Carranza scarcely opens his mouth without words like “discrimination,” “integration” and “social justice” tumbling out. He has been chancellor for a year now and has never spoken honestly of the Department of Education’s chaotic classrooms and seething corridors.


When he does speak, it’s generally to defend the disrupters, or at least the cockeyed protocol DOE has adopted to deal with the issue — a policy that is, to paraphrase a great man, a corruption wrapped in an evasion inside a capitulation.


That is, Mayor Bill de Blasio. Carranza and the DOE have betrayed their obligation to provide welcoming classrooms for all children to paper over racial and ethnic tensions, thus surrendering the schools to activists and others with axes to grind.


The policy is called “restorative justice.” Based on a highly dubious proposition — that black and Hispanic offenders are punished disproportionately to white students engaged in similar behavior — DOE has blinded itself to the impact of schools teeming with aggressive, disruptive students.


There is virtually no evidence that white (or Asian) students are unruly in significant numbers. But there is no question that too many black and Hispanic students are.


But to avoid accusations that black and Hispanic students are disciplined unfairly, increasingly nobody is disciplined. The result, predictably, is chaos.

Lost in all this is the profoundly negative impact on children who come to school to learn. And because black and Hispanic children comprise almost three-quarters of the system’s 1.1 million students, the ill effects of “restorative justice” fall most heavily on them.


The DOE not only permits the dysfunction, it wallows in it, doing everything possible to avoid imposing order. Indeed, Hizzoner brags about having reduced suspensions — a time-tested disciplinary tool — by 50 percent since taking office. No doubt he has. It shows.


Teachers, even United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew, have noticed.

“In my 20 years working for the Board of Ed,” wrote a Queens high school teacher for The Post this month, “I’ve never seen such a disregard for the rules — and human decency — as I’m seeing now.”


“Teacher X” described belligerence, foul-mouthed invective and sometimes physical threats routinely being directed at authority figures — which, she wrote, administrators, also routinely, ignore.


https://nypost.com/2019/03/13/classroom-chaos-de-blasios-poisonous-gift-to-ny-kids/

Peter1469
03-14-2019, 07:42 AM
Schools need to identify the serious students and put them in different classes from the bulk who are not serious about school. Tell the people who cry racism to go to hell.

Cthulhu
03-14-2019, 08:26 AM
This is one of the many reasons home schooling is on the rise.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Peter1469
03-14-2019, 09:24 AM
This is one of the many reasons home schooling is on the rise.

Sent from my evil cell phone.
It use to be the religious right. Now it is people who want their children challenged to learn something.

Mister D
03-14-2019, 10:03 AM
The USA has experienced a dramatic decline in human capital. This decline is due at least partly to changes in our immigration policy. Virtually everyone ignores the 800 pound gorilla in the room. One set (they call themselves conservatives) focus on "liberals" and "socialism" while the other (they call themselves progressives) seem bent on self-destruction and actually believe this nation benefits from "diversity".

Cthulhu
03-14-2019, 10:37 AM
The USA has experienced a dramatic decline in human capital. This decline is due at least partly to changes in our immigration policy. Virtually everyone ignores the 800 pound gorilla in the room. One set (they call themselves conservatives) focus on "liberals" and "socialism" while the other (they call themselves progressives) seem bent on self-destruction and actually believe this nation benefits from "diversity".I can't say diversity had helped much when you look at the numbers.

Sent from my evil cell phone.

Mini Me
03-14-2019, 11:20 AM
Schools need to identify the serious students and put them in different classes from the bulk who are not serious about school. Tell the people who cry racism to go to hell.
Agreed!

BenjaminO
03-14-2019, 12:38 PM
If you want to read something honest and blunt about Public schools not only in NYC but elsewhere too read this


There’s not a lot wrong with New York City’s public schools that couldn’t be improved with more studious students. And, critically, with far fewer of the unserious, disruptive, sometimes violent types who populate the city’s least functional schools. Harsh, but true.

Disorder is endemic in New York classrooms. Teachers and staff complain bitterly to The Post of schoolhouse anarchy; the head of the city teachers’ union is raising alarms — and Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza, *obsessed as he is with peripheral social issues, once again is out to lunch.


Carranza scarcely opens his mouth without words like “discrimination,” “integration” and “social justice” tumbling out. He has been chancellor for a year now and has never spoken honestly of the Department of Education’s chaotic classrooms and seething corridors.


When he does speak, it’s generally to defend the disrupters, or at least the cockeyed protocol DOE has adopted to deal with the issue — a policy that is, to paraphrase a great man, a corruption wrapped in an evasion inside a capitulation.


That is, Mayor Bill de Blasio. Carranza and the DOE have betrayed their obligation to provide welcoming classrooms for all children to paper over racial and ethnic tensions, thus surrendering the schools to activists and others with axes to grind.


The policy is called “restorative justice.” Based on a highly dubious proposition — that black and Hispanic offenders are punished disproportionately to white students engaged in similar behavior — DOE has blinded itself to the impact of schools teeming with aggressive, disruptive students.


There is virtually no evidence that white (or Asian) students are unruly in significant numbers. But there is no question that too many black and Hispanic students are.


But to avoid accusations that black and Hispanic students are disciplined unfairly, increasingly nobody is disciplined. The result, predictably, is chaos.

Lost in all this is the profoundly negative impact on children who come to school to learn. And because black and Hispanic children comprise almost three-quarters of the system’s 1.1 million students, the ill effects of “restorative justice” fall most heavily on them.


The DOE not only permits the dysfunction, it wallows in it, doing everything possible to avoid imposing order. Indeed, Hizzoner brags about having reduced suspensions — a time-tested disciplinary tool — by 50 percent since taking office. No doubt he has. It shows.


Teachers, even United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew, have noticed.

“In my 20 years working for the Board of Ed,” wrote a Queens high school teacher for The Post this month, “I’ve never seen such a disregard for the rules — and human decency — as I’m seeing now.”


“Teacher X” described belligerence, foul-mouthed invective and sometimes physical threats routinely being directed at authority figures — which, she wrote, administrators, also routinely, ignore.


https://nypost.com/2019/03/13/classroom-chaos-de-blasios-poisonous-gift-to-ny-kids/
There is so much that could be said to this.
Many if not most of the problem children are products of homes where they are not loved or wanted and are considered to be a burden. How they got there is not a result of anything they did. It certainly gives argument to birth control and/or abortion.

One thing the school my boys attended did was when a student was being a problem the parents were invited and urged to come to school with their child and sit through classes. Nothing like a parent present to keep a child in line and embarrass them just a little bit. The system worked well as long as the parents were willing and able to help out.

I believe it's the Japanese who don't have a grading system for the first few years in school. They work on teaching respect and honor rather than worry about academic achievement.

It certainly takes a special kind of person to be a teacher in some of those environments in that article. Personally I think they should be given permission to dole out punishment as necessary as children learn quickly that any lack of being held responsible for their actions quickly teaches them they can get away with anything. And the parents should be held accountable also.

Tahuyaman
03-14-2019, 01:40 PM
I can't say diversity had helped much when you look at the numbers.

Sent from my evil cell phone.


One of the problems is that diversity is viewd only as an issue of race. Diversity of ideas or thought is discouraged.

Our public school are in a self created crisis and the people who created this crisis refuse to acknowledge it. They honestly believe that applying more of these demonstrably failed policies is the solution.