Voting at 16

[Ransom]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/14/pelosi-supports-lowering-voting-age-16/


WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said at her weekly press conference Thursday she personally would support lowering the national voting age to 16

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“I myself, personally, I’m not speaking for my caucus, I myself have always been for lowering the voting age to 16,” Pelosi said when asked by The Daily Caller about her thoughts on the issue. “I think it’s really important to capture kids when they’re in high school when they’re interested in all of this when they’re learning about government to be able to vote.”

It's really important to....."capture kids when they're in high school", Nancy?

Why would you be calling them kids, Nancy? Perhaps because.....they are??!! You want to allow 16 year old's to vote? You're just admitting that they're kids....ie….naïve and immature....and yet you want to "capture" their vote. They cannot carry nor own a firearm or even purchase cigarettes. They cannot purchase alcohol, serve in the military, they're seen as minors if charged with anything.....and you wish to allow them to vote?

Stupid people make stupid suggestions.

[exotix]

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said at her weekly press conference Thursday she personally would support lowering the national voting age to 16



What's the problem ? .... You mean why would conservatives want teens at 16 to vote ?

[jimmyz]

Ima agenit!

[MisterVeritis]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/14/pelosi-supports-lowering-voting-age-16/



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It's really important to....."capture kids when they're in high school", Nancy?

Why would you be calling them kids, Nancy? Perhaps because.....they are??!! You want to allow 16 year old's to vote? You're just admitting that they're kids....ie….naïve and immature....and yet you want to "capture" their vote. They cannot carry nor own a firearm or even purchase cigarettes. They cannot purchase alcohol, serve in the military, they're seen as minors if charged with anything.....and you wish to allow them to vote?

Stupid people make stupid suggestions.
We should have the same age for voting as when children are no longer eligible to be carried on their parents' health insurance.

[MMC]

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said at her weekly press conference Thursday she personally would support lowering the national voting age to 16



What's the problem ? .... You mean why would conservatives want teens at 16 to vote ?

No.....we mean Democrats are desperate for votes. Can't rely on the dead anymore. :laugh:

[Tahuyaman]

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said at her weekly press conference Thursday she personally would support lowering the national voting age to 16



What's the problem ? .... You mean why would conservatives want teens at 16 to vote ?
Because most would want mature people voting. People who have a grasp of the issues of the day.

[alexa]

That would eliminate about 63 million current voters.

[nathanbforrest45]

16 year olds don't know sh!t from shinola. Allowing them to vote would be absolutely disastrous to the nation.

Does anyone really think the latest pop star would make a good president?

[nathanbforrest45]

That would eliminate about 63 million current voters.
What are you babbling about now?

[Tahuyaman]

Of course the liberals won't be happy until a system can be developed which eliminates all votes in opposition to their views.

[Sergeant Gleed]

Is there any particular reason it should not be reduced to six?

[Abby08]

Is there any particular reason it should not be reduced to six?

By their logic, none at all.

[Abby08]

Yes, let's have 16 year olds voting......and while we're at it, let's lower the legal drinking age to 14, legal smoking age, 12, let's let kids get a driver's license at, 10!

[jigglepete]

I do not feel that younger teenagers have the life experience yet to make informed decisions like voting, not all teenagers though, if my nieces and nephew could have voted at that age I would approve (not biased or anything lol) I mean, a 14 year old ran for Governor of Vermont last election, he got like 3% or something, if his somewhat older peers could have voted, who knows...

[Tahuyaman]

I do not feel that younger teenagers have the life experience yet to make informed decisions like voting, not all teenagers though, if my nieces and nephew could have voted at that age I would approve (not biased or anything lol) I mean, a 14 year old ran for Governor of Vermont last election, he got like 3% or something, if his somewhat older peers could have voted, who knows...

16 year old's would vote for someone because he calls himself "Deez Nuts".

[Sergeant Gleed]

I do not feel that younger teenagers have the life experience yet to make informed decisions like voting, not all teenagers though, if my nieces and nephew could have voted at that age I would approve (not biased or anything lol) I mean, a 14 year old ran for Governor of Vermont last election, he got like 3% or something, if his somewhat older peers could have voted, who knows...

TEENAGERS do not have the life experiences to make sound choices.

That's why the Rodents troll the colleges for moron socialist supporters.

The stupid get their news from The Daily Show, or worse, from CNN.

People that ignorant should not be allowed outside without a nanny.

[The Xl]

Voting should be reserved for adults, the current age of adulthood is 18

[testsubjectalpha]

Progressive Liberal Democrats like Juan Williams would like to see the voting age be reduced to age 3. Young voters are the most susceptible to directions of others, and not intellectually capable of discerning right and wrong for themselves. That is they are easily molded by outsiders.

This Pre K Dem crowd, bad idea but a topic for another time. This country should have never let the lib prog dems take over edu, they screwed it up. Their scope should be restricted, not expanded in the minds of 3 year olds.



Is there any particular reason it should not be reduced to six?

[MisterVeritis]

That would eliminate about 63 million current voters.
This comment indicates an obvious lack of maturity.

[jimmyz]

I would not have lowered it to 18 way back when.

[exotix]

Yes, let's have 16 year olds voting......and while we're at it, let's lower the legal drinking age to 14, legal smoking age, 12, let's let kids get a driver's license at, 10!I think we should raise the age to 60 to be able to serve in the Armed Forces ... that way you had a life before you're killed.

[jimmyz]

I think we should raise the age to 60 to be able to serve in the Armed Forces ... that way you had a life before you're killed.

Dude! Be reasonable.

The draft should be raised to 21. Too many kids being killed pains me.

[Peter1469]

I think we should raise the age to 60 to be able to serve in the Armed Forces ... that way you had a life before you're killed.

Coward.

[Peter1469]

Dude! Be reasonable.

The draft should be raised to 21. Too many kids being killed pains me.
18 is fine. No reason to eliminate perfectly good candidates from the draft. Younger soldiers, properly trained can handle combat better than new older soldiers. I went in when I was 17, fully expecting to see combat. I did at age 20 and thoroughly enjoyed myself. As I got older I did not enjoy it at all, but did my job.

[Ransom]

18 isn't fine. The legal age from drinking to voting should be 21. Drivers licenses moved to 18. Military service 18, active duty can vote.

Just my opinion.

[Mini Me]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/14/pelosi-supports-lowering-voting-age-16/



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It's really important to....."capture kids when they're in high school", Nancy?

Why would you be calling them kids, Nancy? Perhaps because.....they are??!! You want to allow 16 year old's to vote? You're just admitting that they're kids....ie….naïve and immature....and yet you want to "capture" their vote. They cannot carry nor own a firearm or even purchase cigarettes. They cannot purchase alcohol, serve in the military, they're seen as minors if charged with anything.....and you wish to allow them to vote?

Stupid people make stupid suggestions.

I agree. That is CRAZY !

18 is ok tho!

[Mini Me]

18 is fine. No reason to eliminate perfectly good candidates from the draft. Younger soldiers, properly trained can handle combat better than new older soldiers. I went in when I was 17, fully expecting to see combat. I did at age 20 and thoroughly enjoyed myself. As I got older I did not enjoy it at all, but did my job.
Enjoyed yourself? Did you enjoy killing innocent people?

[Peter1469]

Enjoyed yourself? Did you enjoy killing innocent people?
You fail to understand what you are talking about. In combat both sides mean to kill one another. Does that make you piss your pants? My goal was KTF- kill them first.

[Tahuyaman]

Dude! Be reasonable.

The draft should be raised to 21. Too many kids being killed pains me.

No one has been drafted for decades.

[Captdon]

That would eliminate about 63 million current voters.

Maybe. I don't know the exact count of liberals.

[Captdon]

I would not have lowered it to 18 way back when.

Why not? I think the drinking age should be 18 as well. If you can fight in a war you can drink and vote.

[Captdon]

Dude! Be reasonable.

The draft should be raised to 21. Too many kids being killed pains me.

We don't draft any more. We haven't for 47 years.

[Ransom]

Why not? I think the drinking age should be 18 as well. If you can fight in a war you can drink and vote.

But the civilian you're protecting back home should not. I think privilege should be afforded active duty to vote, thus I believe joining he military should include that privilege. However...the other Lot.....alcohol and voting, legal age, etc, should be 21. Just me opinion. Happy St Paddy's

[nathanbforrest45]

But the civilian you're protecting back home should not. I think privilege should be afforded active duty to vote, thus I believe joining he military should include that privilege. However...the other Lot.....alcohol and voting, legal age, etc, should be 21. Just me opinion. Happy St Paddy's

In 1969 when the legal age to purchase alcohol was changed to 18 in Maryland there was a pizza joint in Laurel MD that was very popular with families and their children. There was always some underaged drinkers because of its proximity of the University of Maryland. When the age was lowered the place began to be filed with 18 to 20 years olds plus 16 year old friends and girlfriends. These were immature little brats who could not handle alcohol consumption due to lack of maturity. Frequently fights would break out, drinkers would become drunk and either pass out or puke everywhere. The families left, because they didn't want to subject their children or themselves to these little punks. The owner of the store decided he wasn't going to serve alcohol to anyone under the age of 21, law or no law. But it was too late, his paying customers did not return and within a year he was out of business.

The reason 18 year olds make good soldiers is because they are full of piss and vinegar, lack an understanding that they could be blown into small pieces in a war and generally obey orders regardless of the risk to their lives. Let them drink on base, let them vote if they have SERVED in the military but are still under the age of consent but for God's sake don't turn them loose on a mature, thinking society.

[Cannons Front]

Enjoyed yourself? Did you enjoy killing innocent people?
Your level of stupidity is beyond belief. You never served, so in your way of thinking that makes you a coward, instead you just sat back and have let other defend your rights then spit on them for doing it. The only reason we have a country today is because brave men and women have fought to protect it.
Soldiers do not enjoy killing, many will go through their entire career and never have to. But if called on are willing to give their lives so you can enjoy the freedoms of this nation. You should thank them rather than insult them.

[MMC]

Enjoyed yourself? Did you enjoy killing innocent people?

Its kill or be killed when in combat. You didn't think that shooting the enemy in the leg or arm would stop them from trying to kill you, did ya?

Oh and don't forget the enemy also likes to play like they are dead. Then get up and try to kill as many as they can. So don't forget to walk over there and put one in the enemy's head or if saving on ammunition. Stick him with that bayonet a couple of times.

[Ransom]

In 1969 when the legal age to purchase alcohol was changed to 18 in Maryland there was a pizza joint in Laurel MD that was very popular with families and their children. There was always some underaged drinkers because of its proximity of the University of Maryland. When the age was lowered the place began to be filed with 18 to 20 years olds plus 16 year old friends and girlfriends. These were immature little brats who could not handle alcohol consumption due to lack of maturity. Frequently fights would break out, drinkers would become drunk and either pass out or puke everywhere. The families left, because they didn't want to subject their children or themselves to these little punks. The owner of the store decided he wasn't going to serve alcohol to anyone under the age of 21, law or no law. But it was too late, his paying customers did not return and within a year he was out of business.

The reason 18 year olds make good soldiers is because they are full of piss and vinegar, lack an understanding that they could be blown into small pieces in a war and generally obey orders regardless of the risk to their lives. Let them drink on base, let them vote if they have SERVED in the military but are still under the age of consent but for God's sake don't turn them loose on a mature, thinking society.
Actually, I like that. Allow them to drink on base. I could abide that law.

[Ransom]

Your level of stupidity is beyond belief. You never served, so in your way of thinking that makes you a coward, instead you just sat back and have let other defend your rights then spit on them for doing it. The only reason we have a country today is because brave men and women have fought to protect it.
Soldiers do not enjoy killing, many will go through their entire career and never have to. But if called on are willing to give their lives so you can enjoy the freedoms of this nation. You should thank them rather than insult them.

CF....I put this moron on ignore quite some time ago. Suggest you do the same and your enjoyment of the forum will, I promise, increase dramatically.

Dr. S....exo….couple more.....enhances the forum experience. Don't believe me, try for about a month, you can always change your mind.

[nathanbforrest45]

Actually, I like that. Allow them to drink on base. I could abide that law.

When I was stationed at Anacosta they actually had vending machines that would dispense beer. Anybody with the 50 cents for the beer could buy one and drink it in the proper location. There were a lot of 16 year olds in the Navy at that time.

[Abby08]

Actually, I like that. Allow them to drink on base. I could abide that law.

What's to stop them from going off base....they don't lock em up tight at night.

[Ransom]

What's to stop them from going off base....they don't lock em up tight at night.
I'm for moving the drinking age to 21....if you're active duty, you're permitted to drink. Nathan offered allow them to get a drink on base only, I don't hate that policy.

[Adelaide]

Voting, military, and drinking at 18 is what seems reasonable to me. I do not think you can treat someone as an adult in one or two of those areas and not the other one (or two).

I think in the US (and Canada) individuals are allowed to enter the military at the age of 16 or 17 in certain circumstances and in those cases I could see an argument to make a specific exception for both voting and drinking. If that 16 or 17-year-old is adult enough to fight in a war on behalf of the country, I think they should have a say in politics and be allowed to drink.

[Common Sense]

There isn't much of a difference between 16 and 18, but I'm not sure that either should vote, let alone drive.

I think the legal voting age should be 21 and the legal driving age should be 25.

[Abby08]

There isn't much of a difference between 16 and 18, but I'm not sure that either should vote, let alone drive.

I think the legal voting age should be 21 and the legal driving age should be 25.

I could get behind that.

[Abby08]

I'm for moving the drinking age to 21....if you're active duty, you're permitted to drink. Nathan offered allow them to get a drink on base only, I don't hate that policy.

So, they can drink on base, what's to stop them from drinking, getting drunk and, going off base?

Or, buying liquor, but, instead of drinking it on base, they take it off base?

[Sergeant Gleed]

Why not cut to the chase and make it six?

I want to see the Rodents present logical arguments against that.

[Sergeant Gleed]

What's reasonable is to get the child molestors, aka the Democrats out of the schools anfmd go back to teaching children how to be good adults (means no whining for free shit or censorship) and how to be good Americans ( just say no to fascism and every other form of socialism).

And they shouldn't be able to vote until 24, which is the age when the military service requirement is fulfilled.

By the time they're 24 they are either employed with s real job or whiny bitches for life

Oh, and nobody who's 24 AND living with mommy can vote, if mommy is declaring his most wussiness a dependent on her taxes.

[Sergeant Gleed]

Why not? I think the drinking age should be 18 as well. If you can fight in a war you can drink and vote.
The two aren't actually connected. That argument was promoted by Rodents seeking to eventually capture the Head-Start voters.

Since there is no draft there us no reason to connect ability to serve (a privilege) to voting (a duty for ADULTS).

[Peter1469]

I was 17 when I joined the Army. I could drink on post, and in some places I was stationed the drinking age was 21, so I still had to drink on post.

[MMC]

I was 17 when I joined the Army. I could drink on post, and in some places I was stationed the drinking age was 21, so I still had to drink on post.

I was 16 when I joined.....and that was how it use to be on post. Although when I went off base and was wearing my uniform. I would be served. If I was in civilian clothes. I wouldn't.....not even a beer.

[Cannons Front]

IMHO, everything needs to be consistent, you are either an adult or you are not. If you have the right to vote you should have all of the other rights that US Citizens have, Drinking, Buying Guns etc... If the legal voting age is 18 then you should be treated equally as an adult across the board. The age you become a responsible adult is an opinion, I know people who are 18 that are more mature and responsible than some that are 50. I also think if you are old enough to serve in the military and defend the rights of others you should enjoy those same rights. On the flip side if they want to allow 16yr olds the right to vote then they need to become adults at that point with the benefits and consequences that brings with it.