I’ve Seen Civil War Destroy the Democrats Before

[Common]

Too late, too many far left liberals some having already Declared running for Potus have laid their cards out and cannot take them back.

When moderate dems start to truly feel their re elections are threatened but the far left nutsys, they will go after them.


I’ve lived through a Democratic Civil War before. In fact, I’ve been in the middle of two of them. The first was in 1968, when I was the research director for Vice President Hubert Humphrey’s presidential campaign. The second was in 1980, when I was Jimmy Carter’s policy director.


Both times, I watched pressure from the party’s liberal wing tear the party apart and bring down a Democratic presidential candidate. Both times, the Republicans took the White House. Both times, liberal dreams were shattered.


Today, I fear it could all be happening again.


As President Donald Trump moved the Republican Party sharply to the populist right, early entrants to the Democratic Party presidential contest have veered sharply to the left, along with several energetic new Democratic members of the House. The left’s new avant-garde has properly identified the need to confront serious national challenges, from rising income inequality and inadequate health care coverage to climate change.


But successfully dealing with these problems demands pragmatic solutions that can gain support from a majority of Americans and do not play into Trump’s false narrative that Democrats are socialists. Speaking from experience, by demanding the moon, their proposals will crash on the launching pad and lead to nowhere good.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/16/democrats-civil-war-225811

[Peter1469]

Hopefully the Repubs go through a civil war now too. Maybe a 3rd party candidate can win.

[Admiral Ackbar]

I just want reasonable Americans who understand the true basis of our freedom and prosperity to be elected. On the Dem side I see no one that fits that bill in the Senate, Congress or running for President.

My 2020 vote will be for Donald Trump

[MisterVeritis]

Hopefully the Repubs go through a civil war now too. Maybe a 3rd party candidate can win.
Donald Trump was the third party candidate and he won.

[Ransom]

Hopefully the Repubs go through a civil war now too. Maybe a 3rd party candidate can win.

The Republicans just had a civil war that still rages, Peter. The Tea Party was the first, our Majority Whip Eric Cantor defeated in primary. Donald Trump received the Tea Party vote, he was the Republican Candidate in direct reaction to not only Obama...but Romney. The Establishment candidate Trump wasn't. Wars with the Paul Ryan types, Trump's caustic tone with Establishments Repubs like John McCain and Jeb Bush notable.

[Captdon]

I don't know that 1980 was all that of a divide. Kennedy wanted to challenge Carter but I don't see how he did any harm. Carter and Reagan were neck and neck until a week before the election. I still believe the hostages is what beat Carter.

1968 was a disaster for the Democrats. They tore themselves apart. They were so beat up that they couldn't stop McGovern from being nominated.

[MMC]

Paul Ryan Has Warning for Trump on 2020 …..


Paul Ryan is out of Congress, but Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020-1217027) reports that the former House speaker weighed in on the 2020 race during a recent lecture in Vero Beach, Fla. Ryan sees President Trump as vulnerable to Democrats unless he starts putting the focus on policy rather than on his "personal brand," as Treasure Coast Newspapers (https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020/3138835002/) puts it. Ryan's key quote on the subject: …..snip~


http://www.newser.com/story/272466/paul-ryan-has-warning-for-trump-on-2020.html



Message to Paul Ryan.....take a seat in the back of the bus, ya Republican wannabe.

[Sergeant Gleed]

I don't know that 1980 was all that of a divide. Kennedy wanted to challenge Carter but I don't see how he did any harm. Carter and Reagan were neck and neck until a week before the election. I still believe the hostages is what beat Carter.

1968 was a disaster for the Democrats. They tore themselves apart. They were so beat up that they couldn't stop McGovern from being nominated.


Er...no.

On July 15, before the election, That Idiot Carter gave his infamous Economic Malaise Speech in which, while the term was not used in the speech, That Idiot Carter informed the American people that the days of American prosperity were OVER, they where just going to have to accept the fact that America had reached its peak and that their children were going to live lives of lesser expectations.

Carter's TRUE lead never existed after that, but, hell,, the Rodent medea did not just start lying in 2016. They've been lying for the Rodents since the 1930's.

[Sergeant Gleed]

Paul Ryan Has Warning for Trump on 2020 …..


Paul Ryan is out of Congress, but Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020-1217027) reports that the former House speaker weighed in on the 2020 race during a recent lecture in Vero Beach, Fla. Ryan sees President Trump as vulnerable to Democrats unless he starts putting the focus on policy rather than on his "personal brand," as Treasure Coast Newspapers (https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020/3138835002/) puts it. Ryan's key quote on the subject: …..snip~


http://www.newser.com/story/272466/paul-ryan-has-warning-for-trump-on-2020.html



Message to Paul Ryan.....take a seat in the back of the bus, ya Republican wannabe.

I want him riding on the front bumper, like a true Road Warrior.

[Captdon]

Er...no.

On July 15, before the election, That Idiot Carter gave his infamous Economic Malaise Speech in which, while the term was not used in the speech, That Idiot Carter informed the American people that the days of American prosperity were OVER, they where just going to have to accept the fact that America had reached its peak and that their children were going to live lives of lesser expectations.

Carter's TRUE lead never existed after that, but, hell,, the Rodent medea did not just start lying in 2016. They've been lying for the Rodents since the 1930's.

They were neck and neck until a couple weeks before the election.

There was only one presidential debate in 1980 between challenger Ronald Reagan and President Jimmy Carter. Just two days before the October 28 debate, Carter was eight points ahead in the Gallup poll. A week after the debate, he lost to Reagan by nearly ten percentage points.

Real Clear Politics.

[MMC]

I want him riding on the front bumper, like a true Road Warrior.

Ah.....like a Bug catcher. That will work too.

[Cannons Front]

Hopefully the Repubs go through a civil war now too. Maybe a 3rd party candidate can win.
The biggest problem with 3rd party candidates is the media and the fact that the big 2 have them all in the bag. One way to try to counter this is to get a few good viable candidates in a 3rd party so that they can run a primary campaign and challenge for the nomination. The Dems and Repubs get free campaign ads for 2 years because of their primaries, look at it now, coverage every day. Few will hear of any 3rd party or it's candidate until Sept of Next year, 2 months before the election.
There have been a couple exceptions Perot in his first run in 92 but he did not win a single EC vote and finished 3rd, Wallace in 68 earned 46 EC votes but still finished 3rd. Only Teddy in 1912 (88 EC votes) and Breckinridge (72 EC votes) in 1860 have ever finished better than 3rd and they both came in 2nd.

The Dems and Repubs have completely taken over major politics and the media is a willing accomplice. I am not saying that there is no chance, but that chance is very very slim. An extremely popular and well known person could have a chance but with the primary system it would still be a very small one.

[Mini Me]

Hopefully the Repubs go through a civil war now too. Maybe a 3rd party candidate can win.

Just curious;

Peter, are you a white nationalist, or have you ever been a white nationalist?

No malice intended

[Mini Me]

The Republicans just had a civil war that still rages, Peter. The Tea Party was the first, our Majority Whip Eric Cantor defeated in primary. Donald Trump received the Tea Party vote, he was the Republican Candidate in direct reaction to not only Obama...but Romney. The Establishment candidate Trump wasn't. Wars with the Paul Ryan types, Trump's caustic tone with Establishments Repubs like John McCain and Jeb Bush notable.
Trump was the "Great White Hope"!

[Mini Me]

I don't know that 1980 was all that of a divide. Kennedy wanted to challenge Carter but I don't see how he did any harm. Carter and Reagan were neck and neck until a week before the election. I still believe the hostages is what beat Carter.

1968 was a disaster for the Democrats. They tore themselves apart. They were so beat up that they couldn't stop McGovern from being nominated.

Mc Govern was about as far left as you can get. A huge fail! A good man, with the wrong policies.You could hear a large "crack" in the party then!

[Mini Me]

Paul Ryan Has Warning for Trump on 2020 …..

Paul Ryan is out of Congress, but Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020-1217027) reports that the former House speaker weighed in on the 2020 race during a recent lecture in Vero Beach, Fla. Ryan sees President Trump as vulnerable to Democrats unless he starts putting the focus on policy rather than on his "personal brand," as Treasure Coast Newspapers (https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2019/03/12/paul-ryan-trump-2020/3138835002/) puts it. Ryan's key quote on the subject: …..snip~


http://www.newser.com/story/272466/paul-ryan-has-warning-for-trump-on-2020.html



Message to Paul Ryan.....take a seat in the back of the bus, ya Republican wannabe.

Ryan happens to be right!

[Mini Me]

Er...no.

On July 15, before the election, That Idiot Carter gave his infamous Economic Malaise Speech in which, while the term was not used in the speech, That Idiot Carter informed the American people that the days of American prosperity were OVER, they where just going to have to accept the fact that America had reached its peak and that their children were going to live lives of lesser expectations.

Carter's TRUE lead never existed after that, but, hell,, the Rodent medea did not just start lying in 2016. They've been lying for the Rodents since the 1930's.
Haha! ya better call Billy the Exterminator.....who happens to be a Lefty! LOL!

[Peter1469]

Just curious;

Peter, are you a white nationalist, or have you ever been a white nationalist?

No malice intended

I am a nationalist. I oppose cultural globalism.