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Just AnotherPerson
04-04-2019, 01:49 PM
Finally the clean bill has been passed to end US support for the Saudi led war agaisnt Yemen. This has been a long time coming. We all know Trump will likley veto, but congress has spoken. If Trump Vetos he will do so by having complete disregard for the voice of the people of this nation, as well as complete disregard for the constitution. It is just sad that it took this long. Many hundreds of thousands of innocent children have died with our involvement because of our innaction, and our nations participation in starving and bombing the innocent civillians of Yemen. This is also a win for congress to reassert its authority.

Here is the CSPAN link https://www.c-span.org/video/?459300-1/house-session-part-1


S.J.Res. 7: A joint resolution to direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress.

Complete text https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/sjres7/text

Here is the vote count and who voted https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/h153


U.S. Role in Yemen War Will End Unless Trump Issues Second Veto

See more at the link https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/us/politics/yemen-war-end-vote.html

WASHINGTON — The House on Thursday gave final passage to a bipartisan resolution forcing an end to United States military involvement in Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen, sending President Trump a pointed rebuke over his continued defense of the kingdom after the killing of a dissident journalist, Jamal Khashoggi.

The 247-176 vote, with 16 Republicans joining united Democrats, invoked the rarely used War Powers Act to curb the president’s executive power to wage war without congressional approval. It likely sets up the second veto of his presidency, this time to publicly defend a four-year conflict that has killed thousands of civilians and inflicted a devastating famine (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/20/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-invisible-war-yemen.html?module=inline).

The Senate passed a parallel resolution in March, 54 to 46 (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/us/politics/yemen-saudi-war-senate.html?module=inline). The White House has pledged on two separate occasions to veto it.“The president will have to face the reality that Congress is no longer going to ignore its constitutional obligations when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to determining when and where our military is engaged in hostilities,” said Representative Eliot L. Engel of New York, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Mini Me
04-04-2019, 02:30 PM
This is long overdue!

JAP, see my thread on stopping the Barr Coverup!

MMC
04-04-2019, 02:35 PM
More than likely he will veto and they wont have enough to override. Of course then Trump can tell the Saud to lower oil prices again.

MMC
04-04-2019, 02:36 PM
This is long overdue!

JAP, see my thread on stopping the Barr Coverup!


There is no coverup. Oh and the Demos didn't put out the subpoena to Barr. So whats that tell ya.

jimmyz
04-04-2019, 03:46 PM
No matter what Congress does, the US could backdoor military assistance to Saudi Arabia or whatever Yemeni rebel group it wants to. You want the killing to end there JAP? Tell Iran to f off and leave. They won't hear you however.

Iran is driving this thing not the USA.

FindersKeepers
04-04-2019, 03:46 PM
There is no coverup. Oh and the Demos didn't put out the subpoena to Barr. So whats that tell ya.

More liberal game-playing.

Not surprising.

DGUtley
04-04-2019, 03:55 PM
This is long overdue! JAP, see my thread on stopping the Barr Coverup!

JAP, see my post that Barr is actually following the rules as put in by the D's following the Starr Report?

Mini Me
04-04-2019, 07:45 PM
Trump is PRES now...for 26 months! https://content.invisioncic.com/r244832/emoticons/default_smile.png He campaigned on ENDING USELESS AND WASTEFUL WARS....right?

Mini Me
04-04-2019, 07:53 PM
http://time.com/4787797/donald-trump-yemen-saudi-arabia-arms-deal/

Here is Trump explaining his foreign policy on this matter:


(https://www.liberalforum.org/topic/251884-getting-out-of-yemen-a-good-thing/#) Quote
“I would not be in favor stopping of a country spending $110 billion [in the U.S.], which is an all-time record, and letting Russia have that money, and letting China have that money,” Trump said.
“Because all [Riyadh’s] going to do is say, that’s OK, we don’t have to buy it from Boeing, we don’t have to buy it from Lockheed, we don’t have to buy it from Raytheon and all these great companies. We can buy it from Russia and China."
“So what good does that do us? There are other things we can do,” Trump said.

In other words, "The Saudis are going to buy their weapons from somebody to kill people in Yemen. It may as well be us that profits by the murder of the Yemeni people. USA! USA! USA!"

This is MORALLY BANKRUPT!

EvilCat Breath
04-04-2019, 09:28 PM
Yemen has been doing Iran's killing. If Saudi hammers them, Yemen has it coming.

Peter1469
04-05-2019, 05:01 AM
http://time.com/4787797/donald-trump-yemen-saudi-arabia-arms-deal/

Here is Trump explaining his foreign policy on this matter:

Quote
“I would not be in favor stopping of a country spending $110 billion [in the U.S.], which is an all-time record, and letting Russia have that money, and letting China have that money,” Trump said.
“Because all [Riyadh’s] going to do is say, that’s OK, we don’t have to buy it from Boeing, we don’t have to buy it from Lockheed, we don’t have to buy it from Raytheon and all these great companies. We can buy it from Russia and China."
“So what good does that do us? There are other things we can do,” Trump said.


In other words, "The Saudis are going to buy their weapons from somebody to kill people in Yemen. It may as well be us that profits by the murder of the Yemeni people. USA! USA! USA!"

This is MORALLY BANKRUPT!

No it isn't. You left out one thing: when other nations use our weapon systems we gain a lot of control over those nations- they need replacement parts, they often need expert contractors (US) to fix them, etc. If SA started buying Russian military equipment we lose that trump card.

Peter1469
04-05-2019, 05:02 AM
Yemen has been doing Iran's killing. If Saudi hammers them, Yemen has it coming.

Right it is a proxy war- SA v. Iran.

EvilCat Breath
04-05-2019, 09:51 AM
Right it is a proxy war- SA v. Iran.

Proxy war. US v Iran.

Mini Me
04-05-2019, 05:28 PM
No it isn't. You left out one thing: when other nations use our weapon systems we gain a lot of control over those nations- they need replacement parts, they often need expert contractors (US) to fix them, etc. If SA started buying Russian military equipment we lose that trump card.
So you don't mind all the killing and war going on?

EvilCat Breath
04-06-2019, 08:41 PM
So you don't mind all the killing and war going on?

Heavens no. We are not at war. Why would we mind? It is none of our business. Except for selling weapons.

Just AnotherPerson
04-16-2019, 07:48 PM
Trump vetoed the Yemen resolution today. I am severely disheartened but we all knew he would do it. The article I read said that he said the resolution was a dangerous attempt to weaken his constitutional authority. He forgot to mention how it threw the constitutional rights in the trash of the citizens of this nation.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=62444234 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vetoes-resolution-end-us-involvement-yemen/story?id=62444234)


Luckily there is talk of overriding this veto, and I hope they get to it stat! This is just unbelievable I mean seriously. This president is fighting tooth and nail to defend his terrorist friends.
https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1118307049891344384

Mini Me
04-16-2019, 08:34 PM
Trump vetoed the Yemen resolution today. I am severely disheartened but we all knew he would do it. The article I read said that he said the resolution was a dangerous attempt to weaken his constitutional authority. He forgot to mention how it threw the constitutional rights in the trash of the citizens of this nation.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=62444234 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vetoes-resolution-end-us-involvement-yemen/story?id=62444234)


Luckily there is talk of overriding this veto, and I hope they get to it stat! This is just unbelievable I mean seriously. This president is fighting tooth and nail to defend his terrorist friends.
https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1118307049891344384
JAP! Ypu're still here! YAY! Did you see my thread about Tulsi on the Jimmy Dore Show?
Stick around, you post great threads! Tell the assholes to shove it!

roadmaster
04-16-2019, 09:13 PM
Trump vetoed the Yemen resolution today. I am severely disheartened but we all knew he would do it. The article I read said that he said the resolution was a dangerous attempt to weaken his constitutional authority. He forgot to mention how it threw the constitutional rights in the trash of the citizens of this nation.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=62444234 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vetoes-resolution-end-us-involvement-yemen/story?id=62444234)


Luckily there is talk of overriding this veto, and I hope they get to it stat! This is just unbelievable I mean seriously. This president is fighting tooth and nail to defend his terrorist friends.
https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1118307049891344384

Yea I read he vetoed it and something about Libya being fired on.

Captdon
04-17-2019, 01:00 PM
It was vetoed. JP has nothing to cry about now. It's a done deal.

DGUtley
04-17-2019, 01:06 PM
Trump vetoed the Yemen resolution today. I am severely disheartened but we all knew he would do it. The article I read said that he said the resolution was a dangerous attempt to weaken his constitutional authority. He forgot to mention how it threw the constitutional rights in the trash of the citizens of this nation. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=62444234 Luckily there is talk of overriding this veto, and I hope they get to it stat! This is just unbelievable I mean seriously. This president is fighting tooth and nail to defend his terrorist friends. https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1118307049891344384

I don't know enough about this to take a position (and I typically take the anti-war stance in these things), but I know how passionate you are about it. I'm curious though. How does Trump's exercise of his veto power throw my constitutional rights in the trash. Serious question? I mean, we're not at war that I know of. I understand that we provide logistical support but that begs the question constitutionally as to whether that's a "war" in the constitutional sense.

Is that what you mean?

Just AnotherPerson
04-17-2019, 05:53 PM
I don't know enough about this to take a position (and I typically take the anti-war stance in these things), but I know how passionate you are about it. I'm curious though. How does Trump's exercise of his veto power throw my constitutional rights in the trash. Serious question? I mean, we're not at war that I know of. I understand that we provide logistical support but that begs the question constitutionally as to whether that's a "war" in the constitutional sense.

Is that what you mean?

I mean something quite different. Who does congress represent? The people. Congress is literally the voice of the people. Now please do consider the constitution Article one section 8. Congress has the sole power to declare war. We are clearly engaged in assisting in a war against the people of Yemen. By our assistance we are engaged in a war that was never approved by congress. Now with this resolution a bipartisan response was given loud and clear Congress has spoken, which means the people have spoken, because congress represents the people. When Trump disregards the constitutional rights of congress he is disregarding ours as well.

It was specifically because he, as well as other presidents, were already violating the constitution, it is for that reason that congress had to use the war powers act to reign in the president, back towards the constitution. Even though it was a bipartisan agreement to restore our nation back to the constitution in this one regard. But he vetoed it. He is clearly stating with his veto that he will not abide by the constitution. What he is saying is Trump has the sole power to declare war, and not congress. When he strips congress of their constitutional rights, then it is the same as him stripping the rights of the people, because congress "is" the people. They represent us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S-nCiDNWWs&t=4s

Mini Me
04-17-2019, 06:04 PM
At least say hello, JAP!

Captdon
04-17-2019, 09:27 PM
So you don't mind all the killing and war going on?

Not in Yemen.

Captdon
04-17-2019, 09:28 PM
Trump vetoed the Yemen resolution today. I am severely disheartened but we all knew he would do it. The article I read said that he said the resolution was a dangerous attempt to weaken his constitutional authority. He forgot to mention how it threw the constitutional rights in the trash of the citizens of this nation.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=62444234 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vetoes-resolution-end-us-involvement-yemen/story?id=62444234)


Luckily there is talk of overriding this veto, and I hope they get to it stat! This is just unbelievable I mean seriously. This president is fighting tooth and nail to defend his terrorist friends.
https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1118307049891344384

Good Lord, woman, there is not going to be an override of his veto.

Captdon
04-17-2019, 09:34 PM
I mean something quite different. Who does congress represent? The people. Congress is literally the voice of the people. Now please do consider the constitution Article one section 8. Congress has the sole power to declare war. We are clearly engaged in assisting in a war against the people of Yemen. By our assistance we are engaged in a war that was never approved by congress. Now with this resolution a bipartisan response was given loud and clear Congress has spoken, which means the people have spoken, because congress represents the people. When Trump disregards the constitutional rights of congress he is disregarding ours as well.

It was specifically because he, as well as other presidents, were already violating the constitution, it is for that reason that congress had to use the war powers act to reign in the president, back towards the constitution. Even though it was a bipartisan agreement to restore our nation back to the constitution in this one regard. But he vetoed it. He is clearly stating with his veto that he will not abide by the constitution. What he is saying is Trump has the sole power to declare war, and not congress. When he strips congress of their constitutional rights, then it is the same as him stripping the rights of the people, because congress "is" the people. They represent us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S-nCiDNWWs&t=4s

Nonsense. The President was given the power to fight terrorists where we find them. We found them in Yemen and allowed the SAs to use our equipment and information. The President did exactly what the Constitution allows him to do.

You came back to continue this foolishment?

Peter1469
04-18-2019, 04:46 AM
Congress should probably review their outstanding Authorizations for the Use of Military Force. We are probably in a phase where we don't need one. Future actions against transnational terrorists will be SoF and Intel issues that we should not advertise. Our conventional forces should start retooling and training for major combat operations. Not this low intensity stuff.