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Maine Democrats Want $100 Million Tax On Poland Spring, Critics Warn It Will Hurt Economy.....
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Democratic state representatives in Maine want to cash in on one of the state's consistently successful business -- Poland Spring -- by establishing a water tax that would be only for the popular brand, and raise more than $100 million in taxes for the state. But, many point out the unfairness -- crafting a tax specifically for one company -- and warn this idea will deter futures businesses from opening in the Pine Tree State.
The tax would require the company to pay 12 cents to the state per every gallon that the company uses from Maine's natural resources, nearly 960 million gallons of water a year.
“We need the revenue,” the bill’s sponsor, Rep. Lori Gramlich, D-Old Orchard Beach, told the Portland Press Herald. (https://www.pressherald.com/2019/04/05/poland-spring-might-get-soaked-with-100-million-state-tax/) …..snip~
Here the Demos are doing what? Singling out one company to pay a tax and not just the Water Industry. What does that tell you?
Peter1469
04-07-2019, 04:38 PM
Such a tax would be unconstitutional at the federal level. I wonder if the Maine constitution would allow it.
donttread
04-07-2019, 04:44 PM
Maine Democrats Want $100 Million Tax On Poland Spring, Critics Warn It Will Hurt Economy.....
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Democratic state representatives in Maine want to cash in on one of the state's consistently successful business -- Poland Spring -- by establishing a water tax that would be only for the popular brand, and raise more than $100 million in taxes for the state. But, many point out the unfairness -- crafting a tax specifically for one company -- and warn this idea will deter futures businesses from opening in the Pine Tree State.
The tax would require the company to pay 12 cents to the state per every gallon that the company uses from Maine's natural resources, nearly 960 million gallons of water a year.
“We need the revenue,” the bill’s sponsor, Rep. Lori Gramlich, D-Old Orchard Beach, told the Portland Press Herald. (https://www.pressherald.com/2019/04/05/poland-spring-might-get-soaked-with-100-million-state-tax/) …..snip~
Here the Demos are doing what? Singling out one company to pay a tax and not just the Water Industry. What does that tell you?
An interesting situations. For those of you who think I exist only to bash big companies my opinion here might not be what you would think. Designing a tax for one company , flat ass wrong and an incredibly slippery sloped issue that could wind up have far reaching and unintended consequences . I can see Coors being next.
On the other hand who does own the water? I live on a lake. But a kayak could pull up between my doc and the shore and legally fish. And it's not just water, some people don't own the mineral rights under their own land.
Bottom line this law needs to be scrapped but the issue will not and perhaps should not go away altogether. Did you know that at one time, possibly still, Colorado citizens could not legally catch RAINWATER but Coors ... well they ship a few gallons a year clear out of state. Poland may not own the land over where some of the water they draw comes from. But the guy next door might be in the same boat with his well. Start taxing those and you'll find yourself unelected.
I'm not worried though as clearly the federal government and state governments will come up with a sensible, fair solution. I'm, just kidding of course, sit back and watch over the next few years as they use this as a cash cow without say earmarking a dime for conservation but getting a raise every single year!
BTW, the tax might start with Poland but it will not end with them
Common
04-07-2019, 04:47 PM
No way they would be allowed to tax one company, scotus would shoot that down
Such a tax would be unconstitutional at the federal level. I wonder if the Maine constitution would allow it.
The water company should tell the Demos. The day you impose that tax is the day we close our doors and leave your state ASAP.
An interesting situations. For those of you who think I exist only to bash big companies my opinion here might not be what you would think. Designing a tax for one company , flat ass wrong and an incredibly slippery sloped issue that could wind up have far reaching and unintended consequences . I can see Coors being next.
On the other hand who does own the water? I live on a lake. But a kayak could pull up between my doc and the shore and legally fish. And it's not just water, some people don't own the mineral rights under their own land.
Bottom line this law needs to be scrapped but the issue will not and perhaps should not go away altogether. Did you know that at one time, possibly still, Colorado citizens could not legally catch RAINWATER but Coors ... well they ship a few gallons a year clear out of state. Poland may not own the land over where some of the water they draw comes from. But the guy next door might be in the same boat with his well. Start taxing those and you'll find yourself unelected.
I'm not worried though as clearly the federal government and state governments will come up with a sensible, fair solution. I'm, just kidding of course, sit back and watch over the next few years as they use this as a cash cow without say earmarking a dime for conservation but getting a raise every single year!
BTW, the tax might start with Poland but it will not end with them
Exactly.....it is flat ass wrong. But when have the Demos been Right in the last half a century?
Luther
04-07-2019, 04:55 PM
Sounds like desperation to me
Maine is in trouble
Their population is aging and the young are leaving for better jobs in other states
Now they're pandering to immigrants from hell holes from all all over the world
It's truly going in the chitter
A lot of their problems stem from being the 2nd most atheist state in the union(Not producing kids)
MisterVeritis
04-07-2019, 05:57 PM
The water company should tell the Demos. The day you impose that tax is the day we close our doors and leave your state ASAP.
Why wait? I am sure there are plenty of States not run by evil men and women who would happily invite them to come set up shop.
Just do it.
Captdon
04-07-2019, 07:08 PM
Sounds like desperation to me
Maine is in trouble
Their population is aging and the young are leaving for better jobs in other states
Now they're pandering to immigrants from hell holes from all all over the world
It's truly going in the chitter
A lot of their problems stem from being the 2nd most atheist state in the union(Not producing kids)
How does atheism fit in here?
Sergeant Gleed
04-07-2019, 09:23 PM
Sounds like typical fascism to me.
Who dies Poland Water contribute to in elections?
Tahuyaman
04-07-2019, 10:43 PM
Maine Democrats Want $100 Million Tax On Poland Spring, Critics Warn It Will Hurt....
Democrats are funny.
Luther
04-08-2019, 02:35 AM
How does atheism fit in here?
Simple
They tend to be unwed and not produce large families
Again, Maine's population is aging to prove my point
Also, the few young people they have are leaving for better jobs elsewhere
Make sense?
alexa
04-08-2019, 06:27 AM
The water company should tell the Demos. The day you impose that tax is the day we close our doors and leave your state ASAP.
Somebody else will open up.
alexa
04-08-2019, 06:28 AM
Why wait? I am sure there are plenty of States not run by evil men and women who would happily invite them to come set up shop.
Just do it.
You know that Poland Springs gets its water from, wait for it, Poland Spring, right?
It's not going anywhere.
donttread
04-08-2019, 06:52 AM
The water company should tell the Demos. The day you impose that tax is the day we close our doors and leave your state ASAP.
They'd have to buy a spring somewhere. I suppose some states might market to them , it's hard to say. Then again bottled water is largely a joke , I've read more than one label and found out it was "municipally bottled". (a.k.a. Tap Water. LOL
Watertown, NY once floated the idea of bottling water from the "Black River". Hint it's not named the "Black River" for it's crystal clear appearance and has had industry upstream back in the day when you tossed your by product chemicals in the river.
The idea never gathered any steam, thank god. I guess at least with Polland you know the water came from a spring.
donttread
04-08-2019, 06:58 AM
[QUOTE=MMC;2574127]Exactly.....it is flat ass wrong. But when have the Demos been Right in the last half a century?[/QUOTE
I don't think either "major gang" has been right about much except somehow staying in collective power while collectively failing the people repeatedly in a very long time.
[QUOTE=MMC;2574127]Exactly.....it is flat ass wrong. But when have the Demos been Right in the last half a century?[/QUOTE
I don't think either "major gang" has been right about much except somehow staying in collective power while collectively failing the people repeatedly in a very long time.
Well the Repubs were Right about lowering taxes. Also Right about building up the Military after the Demos weakened the Country.
Oh and the Demos were Right about that they could keep the country divided. For their only chance at power.
donttread
04-08-2019, 07:23 AM
[QUOTE=donttread;2574417]
Well the Repubs were Right about lowering taxes. Also Right about building up the Military after the Demos weakened the Country.
Oh and the Demos were Right about that they could keep the country divided. For their only chance at power.
Got it
Dems= All Bad, evil incarnate
Repubs = All ,good God's messengers
The "other side" causes ALL the division.
Except various mixtures of power have failed to even balance a budget over the past 18 or so years. Also when was the country militarily "Weak"?
I must have missed that somehow.
[QUOTE=MMC;2574420]
Got it
Dems= All Bad, evil incarnate
Repubs = All ,good God's messengers
The "other side" causes ALL the division.
Except various mixtures of power have failed to even balance a budget over the past 18 or so years. Also when was the country militarily "Weak"?
I must have missed that somehow.
Yes Demos and leftists all bad. Think of them as diseases that need to be cured. One way or another.
No not all Repubs are good. Hence the Liberal Repubs, Neo Cons/Demo lite.
As soon as the Demos took the Navy down to less than 300 ships. When they cut the Air Force down. Failed to keep them uptodate. Repair and replace. Neglected the Nuke Subs and when they cut Military R&D allowing Russia to surpass us in some tech. Then cutting the Marines and Army personnel down to levels equal to what we had during WWII. Then Cutting Combat Readiness. Then weakening our borders.
Look into what the Demo Gen Kelly said when he was in charge of Southern Command. Even he had a problem with it.
alexa
04-08-2019, 07:42 AM
[QUOTE=donttread;2574424]
Yes Demos and leftists all bad. Think of them as diseases that need to be cured. One way or another.
No not all Repubs are good. Hence the Liberal Repubs, Neo Cons/Demo lite.
As soon as the Demos took the Navy down to less than 300 ships. When they cut the Air Force down. Failed to keep them uptodate. Repair and replace. Neglected the Nuke Subs and when they cut Military R&D allowing Russia to surpass us in some tech. Then cutting the Marines and Army personnel down to levels equal to what we had during WWII. Then Cutting Combat Readiness. Then weakening our borders.
Look into what the Demo Gen Kelly said when he was in charge of Southern Command. Even he had a problem with it.
Demo John Kelly
What a mutt
Life's easy when you let Sean and Rush do your thinking, but I'm pretty sure the Dems didn't bring the Marines and Army back to WW2 levels, Chumley.
:rofl:
[QUOTE=MMC;2574429]
Demo John Kelly
What a mutt
Life's easy when you let Sean and Rush do your thinking, but I'm pretty sure the Dems didn't bring the Marines and Army back to WW2 levels, Chumley.
:rofl:
Yes Kelly is a Democrat. Was Senior Military assistant to Leon Panetta. Was made General in 2012 under your Special Man the Utterer Stutterer. Then put in charge of Southern Command
Pentagon Plans to Shrink Army to Pre-World War II Level ... (https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/us/politics/pentagon-plans-to-shrink-army-to-pre-world-war-ii-level.html)https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/us/politics/pentagon-plans-to...
Feb 24, 2014 · WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel plans to shrink the United States Army to its smallest force since before the World War II buildup and eliminate an
Army shrinks to smallest level since before World War II (https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/05/07/army-shrinks-to-smallest-level-since-before-world-war-ii/)https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/05/07/army-shrinks...[/URL]
Army shrinks to smallest level since before World War II. By: ... The female population of the Regular Army was reduced by 340 members in March. ... Marine Corps News. Navy News. Defense News.
Obama to shrink armed forces - Washington Times (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Obama+reduces+Army+and+Marine+troops+down +to+WWII+levels&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS#)www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/5/obama-takes-cutback...
Jan 05, 2012 · Obama to shrink armed forces. ... will shrink Army and Marine Corps ground forces, ... The Marine Corps, now at 203,000, may shed 30,000 troops.
Obama plans to cut tens of thousands of ground troops ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Obama+shrinks+Marine+Corp+troops&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS#)https://[url]www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-obama-idUSTRE8031Z...
Jan 04, 2012 · The Obama administration will unveil a "more realistic" vision for the military on Thursday, with plans to cut tens of thousands of ground troops and invest more in …
:pointlaugh: You need to quit hanging out on AOC's twitter feed. Or ask for at least 2 more brain cells. As the two you have, aren't working.
hanger4
04-08-2019, 08:07 AM
You know that Poland Springs gets its water from, wait for it, Poland Spring, right?It's not going anywhere.Poland Springs get it's water from, wait for it, all over the state of Main. .............. POLAND SPRING, GARDEN SPRING, COLD SPRING, EVERGREEN SPRING, CLEAR SPRING, WHITE CEDAR SPRING, SPRUCE SPRING, BRADBURY SPRING.
Poland Springs get it's water from, wait for it, all over the state of Main. .............. POLAND SPRING, GARDEN SPRING, COLD SPRING, EVERGREEN SPRING, CLEAR SPRING, WHITE CEDAR SPRING, SPRUCE SPRING, BRADBURY SPRING.
Meh.....Agent Smith said the Alexa program was always obsolete. :laugh:
MisterVeritis
04-08-2019, 08:20 AM
You know that Poland Springs gets its water from, wait for it, Poland Spring, right?
It's not going anywhere.
Other States have spring water. Maine has tyranny. They should move. They can keep the name. No one will care.
alexa
04-08-2019, 08:30 AM
Poland Springs get it's water from, wait for it, all over the state of Main. .............. POLAND SPRING, GARDEN SPRING, COLD SPRING, EVERGREEN SPRING, CLEAR SPRING, WHITE CEDAR SPRING, SPRUCE SPRING, BRADBURY SPRING.
And none of them can be moved.
Hello? :rofl:
Jesus wept.
alexa
04-08-2019, 08:39 AM
Yes Kelly is a Democrat. Was Senior Military assistant to Leon Panetta. Was made General in 2012 under your Special Man the Utterer Stutterer. Then put in charge of Southern Command
Pentagon Plans to Shrink Army to Pre-World War II Level ... (https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/us/politics/pentagon-plans-to-shrink-army-to-pre-world-war-ii-level.html)
https://www.nytimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com)/2014/02/24/us/politics/pentagon-plans-to...
Feb 24, 2014 · WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel plans to shrink the United States Army to its smallest force since before the World War II buildup and eliminate an
Army shrinks to smallest level since before World War II (https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/05/07/army-shrinks-to-smallest-level-since-before-world-war-ii/)
https://www.armytimes.com (http://www.armytimes.com)/news/your-army/2016/05/07/army-shrinks...
Army shrinks to smallest level since before World War II. By: ... The female population of the Regular Army was reduced by 340 members in March. ... Marine Corps News. Navy News. Defense News.
Obama to shrink armed forces - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/5/obama-takes-cutback-strategy-to-pentagon/)
www.washingtontimes.com (http://www.washingtontimes.com)/news/2012/jan/5/obama-takes-cutback...
Jan 05, 2012 · Obama to shrink armed forces. ... will shrink Army and Marine Corps ground forces, ... The Marine Corps, now at 203,000, may shed 30,000 troops.
Obama plans to cut tens of thousands of ground troops ... (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-obama-idUSTRE8031Z020120104)
https://www.reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com)/article/us-usa-military-obama-idUSTRE8031Z...
Jan 04, 2012 · The Obama administration will unveil a "more realistic" vision for the military on Thursday, with plans to cut tens of thousands of ground troops and invest more in …
:pointlaugh: You need to quit hanging out on AOC's twitter feed. Or ask for at least 2 more brain cells. As the two you have, aren't working.
You need to read what you post before telling others they need more brain cells, Zeke.
I won't even bother addressing your claim that Kelly is a Democrat. That bit of stupidity can stand on its own.
:rofl:
Yes Demos and leftists all bad. Think of them as diseases that need to be cured. One way or another.
No not all Repubs are good. Hence the Liberal Repubs, Neo Cons/Demo lite.
As soon as the Demos took the Navy down to less than 300 ships. When they cut the Air Force down. Failed to keep them uptodate. Repair and replace. Neglected the Nuke Subs and when they cut Military R&D allowing Russia to surpass us in some tech. Then cutting the Marines and Army personnel down to levels equal to what we had during WWII. Then Cutting Combat Readiness. Then weakening our borders.
Look into what the Demo Gen Kelly said when he was in charge of Southern Command. Even he had a problem with it.
You need to read what you post before telling others they need more brain cells, Zeke.
I won't even bother addressing your claim that Kelly is a Democrat. That bit of stupidity can stand on its own.
:rofl:
DUH!
Army shrinks to smallest level since before World War II (https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2016/05/07/army-shrinks-to-smallest-level-since-before-world-war-ii/)
https://www.armytimes.com (http://www.armytimes.com/)/news/your-army/2016/05/07/army-shrinks...
Army shrinks to smallest level since before World War II. By: ... The female population of the Regular Army was reduced by 340 members in March. ... Marine Corps News. Navy News. Defense News.
Obama to shrink armed forces - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/5/obama-takes-cutback-strategy-to-pentagon/)
www.washingtontimes.com (http://www.washingtontimes.com/)/news/2012/jan/5/obama-takes-cutback...
Jan 05, 2012 · Obama to shrink armed forces. ... will shrink Army and Marine Corps ground forces, ... The Marine Corps, now at 203,000, may shed 30,000 troops.
How Obama Shrank the Military - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-obama-shrank-the-military-1438551147)https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-obama-shrank-the-military-1438551147
He’s used the budget sequester to accomplish what looks to have been his political goal from the start. In his memoir “Duty,” then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates writes that in spring 2011 the president promised that military cuts would amount to perhaps one dollar for every $10 of domestic cuts. But in subsequent negotiations, Mr. Obama stipulated that half of the $1.2 trillion in sequestration cuts come …
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Do us a favor and quit trying to make AOC look smart.
Yeah you shouldn't address anything about Kelly or the military. That would require more than those 2 faulty brain cells you carry.
alexa
04-08-2019, 08:46 AM
^I didn't think stupidity on this level was possible.
^I didn't think stupidity on this level was possible.
Sure you did, your always looking in the mirror thinking one day you can be a real woman. But still that doesn't help you overcome those 2 damaged brain cells you sport. :laugh:
hanger4
04-08-2019, 10:45 AM
And none of them can be moved.Hello? :rofl:Jesus wept.You're right alexa, Maine is the only state in the union that has springs. .............. You really ought to think your posts through before posting. Just sayin
alexa
04-08-2019, 11:48 AM
You're right alexa, Maine is the only state in the union that has springs. .............. You really ought to think your posts through before posting. Just sayin
Sure, they'll just move to anyplace and start bottling up a billion gallons of water a year.
You ought to think, period.
Sure, they'll just move to anyplace and start bottling up a billion gallons of water a year.
You ought to think, period.
Uhm yeah, that is what they would do. Move around an area with water sources. Bottling up a billion gallons of water a year.
Practice what you preach. Oh wait, I forgot you only have 2 damaged brain cells. Oh well, maybe Google will be your friend. :laugh:
MisterVeritis
04-08-2019, 12:25 PM
And none of them can be moved.
Hello? :rofl:
Jesus wept.
It tells me something about you that tyranny is to be enjoyed.
The company and the name can be moved. I recommend they move no matter what.
hanger4
04-08-2019, 03:33 PM
Sure, they'll just move to anyplace and start bottling up a billion gallons of water a year.You ought to think, period.How much cash will that tax on their billion gallons cost them alexa ?? How much would it cost to set up shop in another state alexa ?? .................... Nestles will do what's best for their bottom line. Pay the tax, take em to court most likely, sell Poland Spring Water, move or close it's doors.
jigglepete
04-08-2019, 05:21 PM
By "Poland spring" don't you mean Nestle? I thought you did...
jigglepete
04-08-2019, 05:26 PM
There is no spring in Poland springs...well there is, but it has been tainted since the 80's...
Cotton1
04-08-2019, 05:39 PM
Jesus wept.
Cotton smiled
donttread
04-08-2019, 08:00 PM
^I didn't think stupidity on this level was possible.
Want a real eye opener? Watch C_SPAN sometime
Want a real eye opener? Watch C_SPAN sometime
Or any of the Lame Stream Media Pundits talking.
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