Mueller’s findings: Too stupid to conspire. Too incompetent to obstruct.

[alexa]

Exactly.

I've said all along that Trump was too stupid for Russia to consider conspiring with him; they just used him.





After two years of investigation, Mueller’s findings about Team Trump can be roughly summarized as follows: Too stupid to conspire. Too incompetent to obstruct.

These findings are entirely consistent with what I’ve found covering the Trump campaign and administration. I’d submit only one addendum: Too dumb to govern.

Many Democrats are disappointed Mueller opted against charging Trump and top aides. But Mueller captured the essence of Trump. Some of Trump’s actions are hateful, some are ideological and some stretch the bounds of constitutionality. But above all, Trump is bumbling.

Federal judges have ruled against the Trump administration at least 63 times (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-real-reason-president-trump-is-constantly-losing-in-court/2019/03/19/f5ffb056-33a8-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.c900bc3622c3) so far, an “extraordinary record of legal defeat,” The Post reported last month.

Trump routinely proposes illegal actions to top aides — the secretary of state (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/07/rex-tillerson-trump-undisciplined-doesnt-like-read-tries-do-illegal-things/?utm_term=.6e77075ad687), the secretary of homeland security (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-pushed-his-dhs-chief-take-steps-were-clearly-illegal), the White House counsel (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/04/19/muellers-biggest-bombshell-trump-told-white-house-counsel-lie/?utm_term=.94b46e3c06db), Pentagon officials — and they ignore him. Though Trump claimed Monday that “nobody disobeys my orders,” The Post’s Aaron Blake assembled a list of 15 instances of aides doing just that (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/22/trump-says-nobody-disobeys-my-orders-heres-how-wrong-he-is/?utm_term=.02449e0e962c).


His advisers quit and are fired at a record pace (https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/), leaving vacancies, placeholders and semi-functioning agencies.

He flopped in repealing Obamacare and botched implementation of his travel ban and his family-separation policies.

He shut the government down in fruitless pursuit of a border wall and managed to help create a crisis (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/yes-there-is-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border-trump-made-it-worse/2019/04/10/4e4dbe28-5bc3-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html?utm_term=.5852ea3c08e0) on the border where none had existed before.

He spews falsehoods (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.77aae219d55c) by the thousand and announces (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-government-is-trying-to-turn-trumps-lies-into-truths/2019/01/28/1ad3a89e-2349-11e9-ad53-824486280311_story.html?utm_term=.0837a708a745) policies that don’t exist.


He floats wacky nominees — on Monday, Herman Cain withdrew (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/herman-cain-withdraws-bid-to-join-fed-after-republicans-sink-trumps-pick/2019/04/22/b755a770-5d33-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html?utm_term=.f802e3774f7a) from consideration for a seat on the Federal Reserve — and routinely undermines (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrAaxABUx3w) existing appointees.

He eschews briefing books and devises policy with a toddler’s attention span; in one emblematic episode, economic adviser Gary Cohn reportedly swiped a letter (https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/06/politics/trump-woodward-book-trade/index.html?utm_source=fbCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-06T20%3A30%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link) from Trump’s desk so that he would forget about killing a trade pact.

Now Mueller has documented more of the same. Trump’s campaign was happy to accept help in the election from Russia but didn’t pull it off. Trump wanted to obstruct the investigation but was thwarted by aides. And the man who claimed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/nobody-is-humbler-than-trump/2018/04/04/f246044c-3840-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.c16e3514c27c) he had “one of the best memories in the world” said more than three dozen times in response to Mueller’s questions that he couldn’t recall (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-have-no-recollection-trump-turned-to-familiar-refrain-in-response-to-mueller-questions/2019/04/19/7230817c-62bc-11e9-9ff2-abc984dc9eec_story.html?utm_term=.ed52810ef5df) the answer.


The president, perhaps sensing that “too dumb to fail” isn’t a good reelection slogan, went from claiming “total EXONERATION” (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1109918388133023744) before the report came out to “total bullshit” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-uses-profanity-to-complain-about-the-mueller-report/2019/04/19/f9eadc1a-629f-11e9-9ff2-abc984dc9eec_story.html?utm_term=.5c0ebc3c9c17) after.


And Trump’s error-prone lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani proclaimed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/22/giuliani-says-theres-nothing-wrong-with-getting-dirt-russians-law-says-there-can-be/?utm_term=.0442333f2e71) on Sunday that “there’s nothing wrong with taking information from Russians” — exactly the wrong lesson of the past two years.
Does incompetence fit the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors? That’s up to the House.

I, for one, celebrate Trump’s clumsiness. His fondness for authoritarianism and his disdain for the free press and the rule of law would be much more worrisome if he were effective. Trump, with his “enemy of the people” shtick, might talk like Joseph Stalin, but — fortunately — he governs more like Homer Simpson.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-findings-too-stupid-to-conspire-too-incompetent-to-obstruct/2019/04/22/61279d12-653b-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.2b20196a7ffa

[Peter1469]

Well the "collusion" (which isn't a crime) was disproved.

There was no obstruction: the Mueller team was fully funded and had no restrictions on their activity.

But the "media" will lie to you and fake news.

[Mister D]

Whatever helps you feel less foolish for swallowing this ridiculous narrative hook, line and sinker.

[countryboy]

Exactly.

I've said all along that Trump was too stupid for Russia to consider conspiring with him; they just used him.





https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-findings-too-stupid-to-conspire-too-incompetent-to-obstruct/2019/04/22/61279d12-653b-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.2b20196a7ffa

Lol, you've said this all along? Gee, what a coincidence, I've heard more than one lib regurgitate the same lame talking point. Good little brown shirts doing as they're told.

[Don29palms]

Just more proof that the most intelligent liberal barely has a single digit IQ.

[MMC]

Exactly.

I've said all along that Trump was too stupid for Russia to consider conspiring with him; they just used him.





https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-findings-too-stupid-to-conspire-too-incompetent-to-obstruct/2019/04/22/61279d12-653b-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.2b20196a7ffa

AHAHAHAHAHA.....Now that desperation is showing. To stupid to conspire and to incompetent to obstruct.


Oh and you forgot Mueller saying not only didn't the Trump campaign conspire. No Americans willingly or knowingly was coerced by Russian Interference in the 2016 election.


But thanks for validating why the leftness are nothing more than gullible fools. Marks that Demos don't care about when they play the cult following for patsies. :laugh:

[alexa]

Well the "collusion" (which isn't a crime) was disproved.

There was no obstruction: the Mueller team was fully funded and had no restrictions on their activity.

But the "media" will lie to you and fake news.

Speaking of lies, Mueller didn't say there was no obstruction.

Carry on.

[MisterVeritis]

Well the "collusion" (which isn't a crime) was disproved.

There was no obstruction: the Mueller team was fully funded and had no restrictions on their activity.

But the "media" will lie to you and fake news.
What is occurring now is tyrannical and seditious.

For starters every lawyer on the Dirty Cop's Hit Team should be disbarred for writing Volume II. President Trump needs to use every weapon he has against the Democrats and their masters in the enemedia and the Kremlin. He needs to hit them hard and repeatedly until they are defeated.

President Trump needs to target the five or so districts who elected the seditious leaders in the House. Deny as much federal funding as is possible. Use every possible measure to slow roll the things he cannot simply withhold. Sedition's supporters in those five districts must be punished.

The Democrats love tyranny. It is time to give them a large dose of it.

[alexa]

lol

Go get em, Tiger

[MisterVeritis]

Speaking of lies, Mueller didn't say there was no obstruction.

Carry on.
The Dirty Cop and his Hit Team did not charge the President with obstruction. So they should have ethically said nothing.

Retribution is coming.

[MMC]

Speaking of lies, Mueller didn't say there was no obstruction.

Carry on.

LMAO....no instead they tried to construct some alternative theory for Obstruction that both Barr and Rosenstein laughed about thinking Demos and their Cult following are some of the dumbest fucks ever seen in this country.

Yes do carry on. :laugh:

[Tahuyaman]

Well the "collusion" (which isn't a crime) was disproved.

There was no obstruction: the Mueller team was fully funded and had no restrictions on their activity.

But the "media" will lie to you and fake news.


The media is telling them what they want to hear regardless of the facts.

[MMC]

The Dirty Cop and his Hit Team did not charge the President with obstruction. So they should have ethically said nothing.

Retribution is coming.

Its like Hugh Hewitt said.....only the alt left isn't able to comprehend that the Conspiracy, Obstruction delusions, is ovaaa!



The Lames still haven't figure out that if there was no conspiring, no coercing, no Collusion. Then there can be no obstruction. Can't Obstruct if there is no crime. :laugh:

[MisterVeritis]

The OP's headline is just one more way to say there was no collusion and no obstruction of justice.

Given that I shall add alexa to the long list of seditious, tyrannical, un-American people who must be punished.

[hanger4]

Exactly.I've said all along that Trump was too stupid for Russia to consider conspiring with him; they just used him.https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-findings-too-stupid-to-conspire-too-incompetent-to-obstruct/2019/04/22/61279d12-653b-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.2b20196a7ffaRega rdless of how you arrived at your conclusions it's good to see you on broard with the truth, there was no Trump Campaign Russian conspiracy and there's no obstruction of justice. ............... :thumbsup:

[Tahuyaman]

I heard one Republucan say that Trump's campaign was such an incompetent mess that they couldn't even figure out how to collude with his own supporters, let alone a foreign power.

[MisterVeritis]

I heard one Republucan say that Trump's campaign was such an incompetent mess that they couldn't even figure out how to collude with his own supporters, let alone a foreign power.
And yet Candidate Trump handily won.

Some Republicans are very, very stupid people.

[Tahuyaman]

And yet Candidate Trump handily won.

Some Republicans are very, very stupid people.


And he said that he was shocked and amazed to see such a poorly run campaign come out with the results they got.

[alexa]

The Dirty Cop and his Hit Team did not charge the President with obstruction. So they should have ethically said nothing.

Retribution is coming.

Keep telling yourself that, but I don't think it's the retribution you have in mind, old sock.

The Venn diagram representing the intersection of Trump and ethics looks like this:

http://www.cwladis.com/clip_image003_0014.gif

[MisterVeritis]

The Dirty Cop and his Hit Team did not charge the President with obstruction. So they should have ethically said nothing.

Retribution is coming.

Keep telling yourself that, but I don't think it's the retribution you have in mind, old sock.

The Venn diagram representing the intersection of Trump and ethics looks like this:

The Dirty Cop's Hit Team behave unethically, not the President. it is a swing and a miss Bernie.

Retribution is coming.

[alexa]

The Dirty Cop and his Hit Team did not charge the President with obstruction. So they should have ethically said nothing.

Retribution is coming.

The Dirty Cop's Hit Team behave unethically, no the President. it is a swing and a miss Bernie.

Retribution is coming.

Retribution isn't even breathing heavily.

[MisterVeritis]

The Dirty Cop's Hit Team behave unethically, not the President. it is a swing and a miss Bernie.

Retribution is coming.

Retribution isn't even breathing heavily.
In addition to your other flaws, I also suspect you are deaf.

[FindersKeepers]

Keep telling yourself that, but I don't think it's the retribution you have in mind, old sock.

The Venn diagram representing the intersection of Trump and ethics looks like this:

http://www.cwladis.com/clip_image003_0014.gif

You're trying waaaaaay too hard.

[MisterVeritis]

You're trying waaaaaay too hard.
And incorrectly. The Dirty Cop's Hit Team unethically wrote Vol II. It is unethical to do what the Dirty Cop and his Crooked-Hillary lawyers did. So they must be disbarred because they behaved unethically. Shame on them.

Alexa is stupidly trying to deflect from the Dirty Cop's unethical behavior. It did not work. Alexa failed. Shame on alexa.

[Admiral Ackbar]

It is interesting to see the Maoist left try as alexa is to revive their narrative.

It goes without saying that the Chairman smiles down on these efforts.


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[alexa]

It is interesting to see the Maoist left try as @alexa (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=2937) is to revive their narrative.

It goes without saying that the Chairman smiles down on these efforts.


25857
Not as interesting as watching right wing whack jobs invoke Chairman Mao in some kind of retarded attempt to justify their Dear Leader's behavior.


Pray continue, by all means.

[Peter1469]

Speaking of lies, Mueller didn't say there was no obstruction.

Carry on.
In the criminal justice world you charge or you do not. Not charging is equivalent to not guilty. I understand that non-lawyers get confused over these sorts of things.

[Peter1469]

Keep telling yourself that, but I don't think it's the retribution you have in mind, old sock.

The Venn diagram representing the intersection of Trump and ethics looks like this:

http://www.cwladis.com/clip_image003_0014.gif

Who cares?

[nathanbforrest45]

Not as interesting as watching right wing whack jobs invoke Chairman Mao in some kind of retarded attempt to justify their Dear Leader's behavior.


Pray continue, by all means.
Some posters are obviously completely incapable of engaging others in a meaningful manner and their only response is snark, insults and inane comments meant to say, I don't have a clue what you are talking about but I am going to put you down anyway.

Cheers.

[MMC]

Retribution isn't even breathing heavily.

Finally you get something Right. Its not called retribution. Its called poetic justice.

[BenjaminO]

In the criminal justice world you charge or you do not. Not charging is equivalent to not guilty. I understand that non-lawyers get confused over these sorts of things.
Except in this case Don was not charged because of guilt or innocence, he was not charged because he is POTUS.
Mueller laid that out quite clearly and that said Don ain't off the hook just yet.

[fbond02]

Exactly.

I've said all along that Trump was too stupid for Russia to consider conspiring with him; they just used him.





https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-findings-too-stupid-to-conspire-too-incompetent-to-obstruct/2019/04/22/61279d12-653b-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.2b20196a7ffa


The whole thing hinged on being able to prove he conspired with the Rooskies. Since there was no proof of conspiracy, there will not be charges brought by the AG.
What is likely going to happen is that the Russians now can probably hold the proof over Trump’s head and really make him more of a puppet than he has been so far for Vlad and others.

Look for him to further succumb to Russia’s whims as we move forward.

[MisterVeritis]

Except in this case Don was not charged because of guilt or innocence, he was not charged because he is POTUS.
Mueller laid that out quite clearly and that said Don ain't off the hook just yet.
The Dirty Cop did his best. No collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign and no obstruction of justice.

The coup attempt continues. You continue to cheerlead.

[MisterVeritis]

The whole thing hinged on being able to prove he conspired with the Rooskies. Since there was no proof of conspiracy, there will not be charges brought by the AG.
What is likely going to happen is that the Russians now can probably hold the proof over Trump’s head and really make him more of a puppet than he has been so far for Vlad and others.

Look for him to further succumb to Russia’s whims as we move forward.
I laughed. What other fiction have you written?

[hanger4]

The whole thing hinged on being able to prove he conspired with the Rooskies. Since there was no proof of conspiracy, there will not be charges brought by the AG. What is likely going to happen is that the Russians now can probably hold the proof over Trump’s head and really make him more of a puppet than he has been so far for Vlad and others. Look for him to further succumb to Russia’s whims as we move forward.You know not of what you speak. ............. *Trump has not been ‘soft’ on Russia.* ............. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/trump-has-not-been-soft-on-russia-hes-been-tougher-than-obama/2019/03/28/08e88a04-5194-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html

[Peter1469]

Except in this case Don was not charged because of guilt or innocence, he was not charged because he is POTUS.
Mueller laid that out quite clearly and that said Don ain't off the hook just yet.
I have been a prosecutor. You have not.

[Peter1469]

The whole thing hinged on being able to prove he conspired with the Rooskies. Since there was no proof of conspiracy, there will not be charges brought by the AG.
What is likely going to happen is that the Russians now can probably hold the proof over Trump’s head and really make him more of a puppet than he has been so far for Vlad and others.

Look for him to further succumb to Russia’s whims as we move forward.
Incorrect. What happens now is coup plotters face justice.

[Tahuyaman]

Except in this case Don was not charged because of guilt or innocence, he was not charged because he is POTUS.
Mueller laid that out quite clearly and that said Don ain't off the hook just yet.

As explained, there's no evidence to warrant any charges. However hacks will translate things to mean what they want them to mean.

[Captdon]

Well the "collusion" (which isn't a crime) was disproved.

There was no obstruction: the Mueller team was fully funded and had no restrictions on their activity.

But the "media" will lie to you and fake news.

There is no need to lie to Alexa. She does it well enough. She is one of the liberals trying desperately to cover their asses. They thought they had Trump but, as always, he had them.

[Captdon]

lol

Go get em, Tiger

We already got them(you). What you should have said was. "Go get more of them."

[Captdon]

The Dirty Cop and his Hit Team did not charge the President with obstruction. So they should have ethically said nothing.

Retribution is coming.

Funny how Comey used the same phrase about Hildebeast and the left said that proved she was innocent.

I got a laugh over her saying, "if it were anyone else."

[Captdon]

I heard one Republucan say that Trump's campaign was such an incompetent mess that they couldn't even figure out how to collude with his own supporters, let alone a foreign power.

Yea, and he won.

[Captdon]

Retribution isn't even breathing heavily.

The Democrats are sweating bullets waiting to see if Trump will release the FISA documents. If they aren't, they're dumber than rocks.

[Peter1469]

There is no need to lie to Alexa. She does it well enough. She is one of the liberals trying desperately to cover their asses. They thought they had Trump but, as always, he had them.

She just has wet dreams for evidence. Of what? It doesn't matter.

[Captdon]

The Dirty Cop's Hit Team behave unethically, not the President. it is a swing and a miss Bernie.

Retribution is coming.

In addition to your other flaws, I also suspect you are deaf.


No, no. I'm nearly deaf and I don't want put in her class. Try- In addition to your other flaws, I suspect you are ugly.

[nathanbforrest45]

Finally you get something Right. Its not called retribution. Its called poetic justice.

Is it "retribution" when you arrest a bank robber? I don't see any difference from arresting a bank robber and villians who would bring harm to the country, which is exactly what these people did in their attempted coup.

[Captdon]

Except in this case Don was not charged because of guilt or innocence, he was not charged because he is POTUS.
Mueller laid that out quite clearly and that said Don ain't off the hook just yet.

He was never on the hook. It's over for you and your ilk. Live with it.

[Orion Rules]

Speaking of lies, Mueller didn't say there was no obstruction.

Carry on.

You are correct, as the investigation brought in more than it spent. Hillary Clinton's campaign had its issues, so did Donald Trump's campaign. For the issue of who "really" won the electives, it is not over yet.

To see some who are under Robert Mueller's scope and that of the U.S. Justice Department have made threats, that is something else. Attached to the President even.

'The abridgement of finances' may be that:

The Presidential election regards, at the least, whose interests the most shall be represented by the U.S. President and those associates;

It does not mean wrong has been done, but has privy as if the President themselves, a better look at who feels they run the conservatives.

Have there been special privileges? Has there been lying to cover it? Who became richer, while using the office of the President sides?

There is so much incompetent behavior in some parts of the government had better be watching out for what may cause a nation issues.

There are things which transpired, as the following sources state:


>>> "After nearly two years, special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation netted 199 criminal charges, 37 indictments or guilty pleas, and 5 prison sentences..."

https://www.countable.us/articles/25829-timeline-big-move-mueller-investigation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eS06xoANZo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5bWTDCe3ys

[MisterVeritis]

No, no. I'm nearly deaf and I don't want put in her class. Try- In addition to your other flaws, I suspect you are ugly.
Sometimes, perhaps after you have been drinking you become incredibly stupid and goofy. I still like you. Carry on.

[Tahuyaman]

Yea, and he won.

Which was the real cause of full blown TDS.