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Peter1469
05-12-2019, 09:16 AM
Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/like-hannibal-of-antiquity-trump-is-baiting-the-democrats-into-fighting-on-his-turf/2019/05/10/7f1addfa-7348-11e9-9f06-5fc2ee80027a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccc5fe1d2557)

History buffs will like this article. It compares Hannibal of Carthage v. Rome to today's political situation in Washington.


Hannibal Barca (https://www.livius.org/articles/person/hannibal-3-barca/) was commander in chief of the army of Carthage, a North African empire just across the Mediterranean from its rival, Rome. After the Romans got the better of Carthage in the first Punic War, Hannibal launched the sequel by invading what is now Spain and crossing into the Italian boot with the help of mountain-climbing elephants. And some people say history is boring.

Alarmed, the Romans sent an army under Gaius Flaminius northward to reinforce their defenses. Hannibal taunted the Roman general by staging politically embarrassing raids across the countryside until Flaminius could stand no more. The Carthaginian genius then coaxed his angry foe into a fearsome ambush. Having hidden some 50,000 men on a forested hillside overlooking a narrow road beside the lake, Hannibal sprang a surprise attack. Trapped on the road, the Romans lost thousands of men, hacked to death or driven into the lake to drown.


In our closely divided nation, it would be rash to predict such a one-sided result next year. But the lack of testimony from Attorney General William P. Barr, plus Trump’s defiance of congressional subpoenas, are designed to provoke the Democrats into a battle of the president’s choosing. And by declaring “a constitutional crisis,” (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/09/pelosi-says-us-constitutional-crisis-over-trump-stonewalling/1151144001/) House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is following in the footsteps of Flaminius.

Read the entire article at the link.

Common
05-12-2019, 10:04 AM
Ive known the story of Flaminius and Barca, it was somewhat the reverse of The Pass of Thermopylae, where the Spartans forced the Persians into attacking them in a narrow strip with walled sides.

MMC
05-12-2019, 11:07 AM
Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it.



Good.....Couldn't happen to a better bunch of people. Although, going gladiator on them would be better. Just sayin. :grin:

Luther
05-12-2019, 11:26 AM
Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/like-hannibal-of-antiquity-trump-is-baiting-the-democrats-into-fighting-on-his-turf/2019/05/10/7f1addfa-7348-11e9-9f06-5fc2ee80027a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccc5fe1d2557)

History buffs will like this article. It compares Hannibal of Carthage v. Rome to today's political situation in Washington.



Read the entire article at the link.

Read the entire article at the link.

Can't , it fades out cause they want you to subscribe(LOL)

Maybe you can sum it up for us?



Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it.

Sorry guys, the Dim's always have a chance

Luther
05-12-2019, 11:28 AM
Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it.



Good.....Couldn't happen to a better bunch of people. Although, going gladiator on them would be better. Just sayin. :grin:


Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it.

Yeah, like not long ago at the end of 2018(LOL)

Peter1469
05-12-2019, 11:33 AM
Can't , it fades out cause they want you to subscribe(LOL)

Maybe you can sum it up for us?




Sorry guys, the Dim's always have a chance

A more cautious army than the Democrats would have suspected a trap the moment Barr spurned the House Judiciary Committee (https://www.apnews.com/d64338bc6606456d978c33f11d2cf2b4). This veteran of Washington warfare easily shrugged off hours of questions from a Senate panel concerning special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and his lightly redacted report. Barr could have sparred for another day in the House just as comfortably and pugnaciously. Barr’s decision to boycott can only be understood as a deliberate provocation.

Instead of finding a way to avoid an ambush, Democrats have plunged ahead. The judiciary panel voted along partisan lines to hold Barr in contempt of Congress. Another fight is joined over access to Mueller’s trove of evidence. And the most determinedly self-destructive Democrats continue to push for impeachment.


This battle royal between the legislative and executive branches will grind its way through the courts — all the while allowing Trump to continue hogging the media’s attention. Meanwhile, some two dozen would-be Democratic nominees are starving for airtime. House Democrats could be passing popular legislation and forcing Team Trump to block it, thus laying the groundwork for the coming campaign. They appear trapped in their Trump obsession.


Like the Romans marching to Trasimene, the Democrats are overconfident.


They say they can “walk and chew gum (https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1120860456237793287)at the same time” — that is, hound the president while pushing a positive platform. They’re wrong; they can’t. If there is hounding to be done, let New York’s attorney general do it. Team Pelosi should hit Trump where it hurts: Ignore him for a while.


Ancient history is not the only place to learn this lesson. It is as fresh as the last election. Hillary Clinton took Trump’s bait and made her entire closing argument about him: his genital-grabbing, his bankruptcies, his bromance with Vladimir Putin. By Election Day, Democrats basked in polls that indicated a majority of Americans thought Trump was unfit for office.


And look what happened. Trump’s opponents are deluded if they think it can’t happen again.

Luther
05-12-2019, 11:43 AM
How about more of what we know for sure

There's a chance on AZ going Blue

The white vote is predicted to be just under 67%(Holy Chit)

MMC
05-12-2019, 11:43 AM
Yeah, like not long ago at the end of 2018(LOL)

Good thing those 36 Never Trumpers retired huh?

MisterVeritis
05-12-2019, 11:45 AM
How about more of what we know for sure

There's a chance on AZ going Blue

The white vote is predicted to be just under 67%(Holy Chit)
That has been the goal of unrelenting legal and illegal immigration from third world, authoritarian States. People accustomed to tyranny and corruption make good Democrats.

I did not always believe the Democrat party was an un-American criminal conspiracy. I do now.

Sergeant Gleed
05-12-2019, 11:51 AM
Can't , it fades out cause they want you to subscribe(LOL)

Maybe you can sum it up for us?




Sorry guys, the Dim's always have a chance

The summation is that Carthage kost, again, and the Romans decided to literally destroy Carthage so they wouldn't pester Rome any more. And that's what happened.

Since the Rodents are going to steal this next election -they'll register any mountain climbing elephants they can find to vote for them, multiple times - I'll be happy when we finally get tired of their treason and start hanging them in the public squarem

Luther
05-12-2019, 11:51 AM
Good thing those 36 Never Trumpers retired huh?
No, me thinks it really doesn't matter

Luther
05-12-2019, 11:56 AM
That has been the goal of unrelenting legal and illegal immigration from third world, authoritarian States. People accustomed to tyranny and corruption make good Democrats.

I did not always believe the Democrat party was an un-American criminal conspiracy. I do now.


That has been the goal of unrelenting legal and illegal immigration from third world, authoritarian States

But, don't forget Pub's have had their hand in it too

They poo pooed the Jordan commission(Immigration study) recommendations(Curb immigration) in I think 1996 or 1995
Yep

Mini Me
05-12-2019, 12:02 PM
Democrats are falling into Trump’s trap. History proves it. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/like-hannibal-of-antiquity-trump-is-baiting-the-democrats-into-fighting-on-his-turf/2019/05/10/7f1addfa-7348-11e9-9f06-5fc2ee80027a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ccc5fe1d2557)

History buffs will like this article. It compares Hannibal of Carthage v. Rome to today's political situation in Washington.



Read the entire article at the link.
Gaius Flaminus-doesn't that mean 'flaming fag'??

Its no wonder the Romans got beat. LOL!

MMC
05-12-2019, 12:06 PM
No, me thinks it really doesn't matter

Check with the Ronna Romney of the RNC. The money will be a clue.

Captdon
05-12-2019, 01:00 PM
How about more of what we know for sure

There's a chance on AZ going Blue

The white vote is predicted to be just under 67%(Holy Chit)

It won't matter. Arizona doesn't have enough electoral votes to beat Trump. Crazy Bernie and his ilk will lose every state Hildebeast lost and Arizona won't make any difference.

Peter1469
05-12-2019, 01:38 PM
Gaius Flaminus-doesn't that mean 'flaming fag'??

Its no wonder the Romans got beat. LOL!

What's wrong with you? Have you even heard of the Rome-Carthage wars?