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Peter1469
05-30-2019, 08:23 AM
Dershowitz: Shame on Robert Mueller for exceeding his role (https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/445983-dershowitz-shame-on-robert-mueller-for-exceeding-his-role)

Alan Dershowitz (D) responds to Mueller's resignation speech yesterday.


The statement by special counsel Robert Mueller (https://thehill.com/people/robert-mueller) in a Wednesday press conference that “if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said that” is worse than the statement made by then FBI Director James Comey regarding Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign. Comey declared in a July 2016 press conference that “although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information.”

Comey was universally criticized for going beyond his responsibility to state whether there was sufficient evidence to indict Clinton. Mueller, however, did even more. He went beyond the conclusion of his report and gave a political gift to Democrats in Congress who are seeking to institute impeachment proceedings against President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump). By implying that President Trump might have committed obstruction of justice, Mueller effectively invited Democrats to institute impeachment proceedings. Obstruction of justice is a “high crime and misdemeanor” which, under the Constitution, authorizes impeachment and removal of the president.


Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan. I did not believe that he personally favored either the Democrats or the Republicans, or had a point of view on whether President Trump should be impeached. But I have now changed my mind. By putting his thumb, indeed his elbow, on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based on obstruction of justice, Mueller has revealed his partisan bias. He also has distorted the critical role of a prosecutor in our justice system.

Virtually everybody agrees that, in the normal case, a prosecutor should never go beyond publicly disclosing that there is insufficient evidence to indict. No responsible prosecutor should ever suggest that the subject of his investigation might indeed be guilty even if there was insufficient evidence or other reasons not to indict. Supporters of Mueller will argue that this is not an ordinary case, that he is not an ordinary prosecutor, and that President Trump is not an ordinary subject of an investigation. They are wrong. The rules should not be any different.


Remember that federal investigations by prosecutors, including special counsels, are by their very nature one sided. They hear only evidence of guilt and not exculpatory evidence. Their witnesses are not subject to the adversarial process. There is no cross examination. The evidence is taken in secret behind the closed doors of a grand jury. For that very reason, prosecutors can only conclude whether there is sufficient evidence to commence a prosecution. They are not in a position to decide whether the subject of the investigation is guilty or is innocent of any crimes.

Mueller likely included his resignation in his press conference because he would be subject to disciplinary action under DoJ rules for what he said.

nathanbforrest45
05-30-2019, 08:29 AM
Apparently Mr. Mueller is a firm believer in "guilty until proven innocent". His role was not to "exonerate" the president but to find evidence of his guilt. He failed to do that.

Safety
05-30-2019, 08:48 AM
LoL

MMC
05-30-2019, 08:49 AM
LOL.....told ya. Dershowitz excoriated Mueller. Eastman seconded him.

Peter1469
05-30-2019, 08:53 AM
LOL.....told ya. Dershowitz excoriated Mueller. Eastman seconded him.
Dershowitz has lost a lot of friends for not being rabid Never Trump.

MMC
05-30-2019, 08:55 AM
Dershowitz has lost a lot of friends for not being rabid Never Trump.

Yeah, and that's still even voting for Hillary. :laugh:

Peter1469
05-30-2019, 09:02 AM
Yeah, and that's still even voting for Hillary. :laugh:
He is a lib. He would never vote for the GOP.

MMC
05-30-2019, 09:05 AM
He is a lib. He would never vote for the GOP.

Same with Turley. Both are Constitutional Attorneys and Professors. Turley is actively used in Court by the leftness. Dershowitz not so much.

MisterVeritis
05-30-2019, 09:11 AM
Mueller likely included his resignation in his press conference because he would be subject to disciplinary action under DoJ rules for what he said.
At best the Dirty Cop, Mueller, is one of the Dirty Thirty. I hope we go after him and his henchmen.

MMC
05-30-2019, 09:22 AM
Also one reason Mueller came out with his nothingburger presser. Was to deflect from Barr and the Connect-I-Cut attorney. Mueller will be carried by the Lame Stream for the entire weekend.


Rather them having to focus on Steele refusing to cooperate with Barr's Investigating Attorney. Plus other news that came out from the DOJ.


Bosell in his New Book Unmasked. Says that Hillary and BO the peep are still behind the scenes of events taking place today. Which if you notice. Hillary and her mouth still keeps spouting off. Until something gets reported on that could tie her in. Then she goes in hiding until the Lame Stream makes sure it gets glossed over.

nathanbforrest45
05-30-2019, 11:38 AM
LoL

Yes, and your opinion is worth exactly the same.

Tahuyaman
05-30-2019, 12:05 PM
Dershowitz has lost a lot of friends for not being rabid Never Trump.
I heard him talking about that in an interview. Some of his long time friends treat him as though he's now a pariah.


That is normal with the liberal elites. They require complete agreement with their views.

Tahuyaman
05-30-2019, 12:05 PM
Yes, and your opinion is worth exactly the same.

He's only in this thread to troll

Sergeant Gleed
05-30-2019, 12:36 PM
I heard him talking about that in an interview. Some of his long time friends treat him as though he's now a pariah.


That is normal with the liberal elites. They require complete agreement with their views.

Meuller forgot what his job was.

He thought his job was to drag Trump's name through the mud for as long as possible, at least until the Rodents could steal the House in 2018.

The Rodents gave him the job to provide impeach able evidence against Trump, even if it did not exist.

MMC
05-30-2019, 02:00 PM
Dershowitz: I Was Wrong About Mueller, Who Just Shamefully Proved His Partisan Agenda.....


Liberal law professor Alan Dershowitz was not impressed by Wednesday's public statement from Robert Mueller, calling it a revealing indication of the former Special Counsel's partisan rooting interests. Dershowitz, who has been a frequent critic (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2018/03/22/dershowitz-trump-is-right-the-mueller-probe-should-have-never-started-in-the-first-place-n2463257) of many fellow liberals' legal and investigatory tactics against President Trump, penned on op/ed for The Hill (https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/445983-dershowitz-shame-on-robert-mueller-for-exceeding-his-role#.XO7RNRd2GnU.twitter) entitled, "Shame on Robert Mueller for Exceeding His Role." He writes that Mueller overstepped his bounds as a prosecutor, lambasting Mueller for having erred even more seriously than fellow ex-FBI Director James Comey (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/07/06/analysis-the-fbi-directors-devastating-indictmentless-indictment-of-hillary-clinton-n2188349) -- adding that he can no longer defend Mueller as a nonpartisan actor:


Comey was universally criticized for going beyond his responsibility to state whether there was sufficient evidence to indict Clinton. Mueller, however, did even more. He went beyond the conclusion of his report and gave a political gift to Democrats in Congress who are seeking to institute impeachment proceedings against President Trump. By implying that President Trump might have committed obstruction of justice, Mueller effectively invited Democrats to institute impeachment proceedings. Obstruction of justice is a “high crime and misdemeanor” which, under the Constitution, authorizes impeachment and removal of the president...Until today, I have defended Mueller against the accusations that he is a partisan. I did not believe that he personally favored either the Democrats or the Republicans, or had a point of view on whether President Trump should be impeached. But I have now changed my mind. By putting his thumb, indeed his elbow, on the scale of justice in favor of impeachment based on obstruction of justice, Mueller has revealed his partisan bias. He also has distorted the critical role of a prosecutor in our justice system.


He concludes (https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/445983-dershowitz-shame-on-robert-mueller-for-exceeding-his-role#.XO7RNRd2GnU.twitter), "No prosecutor should ever say or do anything for the purpose of helping one party or the other. I cannot imagine a plausible reason why Mueller went beyond his report and gratuitously suggested that President Trump might be guilty, except to help Democrats in Congress and to encourage impeachment talk and action. Shame on Mueller for abusing his position of trust and for allowing himself to be used for such partisan advantage." One of the most common and pointed critiques of Mueller's unexpected performance is that he inverted the role of a prosecutor on the question of guilt vs. "exoneration." …...snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/05/30/dershowitz-muellers-public-statement-proved-his-partisanship-n2547100

jimmyz
05-30-2019, 02:52 PM
Meuller was in it for the money. He cares little for justice.

The Xl
05-30-2019, 03:03 PM
If the government can pressure the President like this, imagine what they can do to the average civilian if they wish.

alexa
05-30-2019, 05:08 PM
Meuller forgot what his job was.

He thought his job was to drag Trump's name through the mud for as long as possible, at least until the Rodents could steal the House in 2018.

The Rodents gave him the job to provide impeach able evidence against Trump, even if it did not exist.

Yes, they Jedi mindtricked Trump into firing Comey, making Rosenstein in charge of the Russian investigation and appointing Mueller.


Do your feet touch the ground?

texan
05-30-2019, 05:20 PM
Trump fired Comey because he figured out there was a skunk in the woodpile. He had to do that. Then they tried to get him to hire Mueller. He declines. Then all the sudden Mueller is a special counsel.

LOL. Not a coincidence.

in other words had Mueller been hired as FBI Director he would have just picked up right where Comey left off. Coup attempt still right on track. Not being hired they had to do something. So they created this special investigator.

This is likely what happened.

Common
05-30-2019, 05:38 PM
Mueller is every bit a part of the coup and was from day one. You can tell hes a sleeze by his choice of friends, comey

Captdon
05-30-2019, 06:15 PM
You can tell by who he picked to investigate. Appointing two Hildebeast supporters said it all.