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Tahuyaman
06-16-2019, 08:58 PM
Kamala Harris laid out her "big idea". Increase a specific federal tax in order to increase teacher's pay. Is there a national teacher pay scale? What a huge new idea.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/06/11/nbc-promotes-kamala-harriss-big-idea-jack-death-tax

Chris
06-16-2019, 09:40 PM
Typical liberal solution, raise taxes to pay for welfare, for what else is it? Does Harris suggest measuring teacher performance to earn higher pay?

Tahuyaman
06-16-2019, 09:55 PM
Typical liberal solution, raise taxes to pay for welfare, for what else is it? Does Harris suggest measuring teacher performance to earn higher pay?
She does not support merit pay.

Peter1469
06-17-2019, 03:54 AM
Kamala Harris laid out her "big idea". Increase a specific federal tax in order to increase teacher's pay. Is there a national teacher pay scale? What a huge new idea.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/06/11/nbc-promotes-kamala-harriss-big-idea-jack-death-tax
What is hell is wrong with her? Teachers are not paid by federal taxes. And States execute the bulk of people executed, not the federal government. Unfortunately I imagine this is lost on those who may vote for her. Not to mention that dems are less likely to favor the death penalty.

Peter1469
06-17-2019, 03:55 AM
Typical liberal solution, raise taxes to pay for welfare, for what else is it? Does Harris suggest measuring teacher performance to earn higher pay?

Do Dems do merit?

FindersKeepers
06-17-2019, 04:37 AM
Harris is an idiot.

Pay increases should be on merit -- nothing else. Already, public schools are filled with lackluster teachers and there's no reason to pay them more than they're worth.

Common
06-17-2019, 06:28 AM
This same liberal mantra time and time again, poor teachers are underpaid.

First of all lets get a few things out, I have two daughters that are teachers and teachers on both coasts and most of the country are not underpaid, There may be a few areas in the country that they are but the lionshare of teachers are more than fairly compensated

Teachers work 180 days a year, a cop fireman or any other public employee work 272 average depending on years of service and vacation time.

When you read teacher salaries it doesnt include longevity and other nuances. Like the cost of their benefits being more than half of what their salary is. Both my daughters make over 75,000 for 180 days work. If you want to believe they spend the other 100 days busting their ass at home developing lesson plans and marking papers go for it and ill be glad to tell you that your braind dead. The 180 days DOES NOT INCLUDE VACATION TIME.

Teachers are not underpaid in some school districts they are OVERPAID. I said theres some districts that may be underpaid, but Califorinia, New York and Jersey are NOT and so are most others.

In New Jersey education costs are killing homeowners because all costs of education are included in property taxs. New Jersey education costs are so ridiculous because of this paragragh.

There are 678 school districts in NJ, all of them have superintendents making from 200k and up, they all have cadillac health care and full benefits, they all have secretaries making in the 60s - 80s with benefits they have a paid school boards.

Just think about that, tiny New Jersey, thats why property tax in jersey is 10 grand a year for house thats 500.00 a year in fla.

Most teachers in the USA are not underpaid, kamala harris just created another giveaway for votes.

If you add up with every candidate on the democrat side wants to GIVE FOR FREE to everyone including illegal immigrants, the industrialized world collectively couldnt pay for it.

Here is the cost as of 2017 to educate a student in nj in different districts. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS get it for free, just the cost of educating their kids is killing us.

Each figure represents a school district

https://patch.com/new-jersey/ridgewood/how-much-does-each-n-j-school-student-cost-new-figures-released

donttread
06-17-2019, 07:21 AM
Kamala Harris laid out her "big idea". Increase a specific federal tax in order to increase teacher's pay. Is there a national teacher pay scale? What a huge new idea.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/06/11/nbc-promotes-kamala-harriss-big-idea-jack-death-tax

She's a few decades late. Modern day teachers do pretty well after paying their professional dues. You can't discount summers, weekends, Holidays, etc off , and great retirement.

Common
06-17-2019, 07:23 AM
She's a few decades late. Modern day teachers do pretty well after paying their professional dues. You can't discount summers, weekends, Holidays, etc off , and great retirement.

Its a classic democrat ploy, Promise them a handout for votes

MMC
06-17-2019, 07:34 AM
Cmon…..its Big.


http://wavenewspapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Kamala-Harris.jpg

MMC
06-21-2019, 04:14 PM
TX Rep. Al Green Endorses Harris (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/20/al-green-endorses-kamala-harris-1372602)


Looks Like Al Green of Texas is Still in Love with Harris.

Bo-4
06-21-2019, 04:31 PM
Kamala Harris laid out her "big idea". Increase a specific federal tax in order to increase teacher's pay. Is there a national teacher pay scale? What a huge new idea.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/06/11/nbc-promotes-kamala-harriss-big-idea-jack-death-tax

GREAT idea!

NEWSBUSTERS SERIOUS?!!

BAD Idea!!! :D


https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/right011.png?resize=600%2C67&ssl=1 (https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/right011.png?ssl=1)RIGHT BIAS
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Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Newbusters claims to expose liberal bias much like its parent website MRC (http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/media-research-center-mrc/), however this site is also very right wing biased like MRC and perhaps even less factual (http://www.snopes.com/did-the-communist-party-of-the-usa-endorse-hillary-clinton/). Newsbusters uses extensive loaded words and always covers just one side of the story. That side always benefits conservatives and is against liberals. (D. Van Zandt 7/19/2016)

MMC
06-21-2019, 04:37 PM
LMAO you know when the leftness plays the MediaBias card. They got nothing in the tank. You must of Forgot about AIM setting MediaBias out for what the Leftist is about.

Peter1469
06-21-2019, 06:22 PM
GREAT idea!

NEWSBUSTERS SERIOUS?!!

BAD Idea!!! :D


https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/right011.png?resize=600%2C67&ssl=1 (https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/right011.png?ssl=1)RIGHT BIAS


These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources. (http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/right/)

Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Newbusters claims to expose liberal bias much like its parent website MRC (http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/media-research-center-mrc/), however this site is also very right wing biased like MRC and perhaps even less factual (http://www.snopes.com/did-the-communist-party-of-the-usa-endorse-hillary-clinton/). Newsbusters uses extensive loaded words and always covers just one side of the story. That side always benefits conservatives and is against liberals. (D. Van Zandt 7/19/2016)

The opinion of one man who has a lot of opinions. And he talks about sources, not facts. Did you confuse yourself?

Tahuyaman
06-21-2019, 07:44 PM
GREAT idea!

NEWSBUSTERS SERIOUS?!!

BAD Idea!!! :D


https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/right011.png?resize=600%2C67&ssl=1 (https://i2.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/right011.png?ssl=1)RIGHT BIAS


These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources. (http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/right/)

Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Newbusters claims to expose liberal bias much like its parent website MRC (http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/media-research-center-mrc/), however this site is also very right wing biased like MRC and perhaps even less factual (http://www.snopes.com/did-the-communist-party-of-the-usa-endorse-hillary-clinton/). Newsbusters uses extensive loaded words and always covers just one side of the story. That side always benefits conservatives and is against liberals. (D. Van Zandt 7/19/2016)

What the hell was that?

Tahuyaman
06-21-2019, 08:36 PM
What does Bo-4’s rant have to do with Kamala Harris’ big idea?

Tahuyaman
06-21-2019, 08:38 PM
What is hell is wrong with her? Teachers are not paid by federal taxes. And States execute the bulk of people executed, not the federal government. Unfortunately I imagine this is lost on those who may vote for her. Not to mention that dems are less likely to favor the death penalty.

Maybe she thinks teachers are under a federal pay scale?

MMC
06-22-2019, 04:48 AM
What does @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297)’s rant have to do with Kamala Harris’ big idea?

NADA.....nothing.....Zilch. No talking points by the Demo Underground was put out this week. :grin:

Bo-4
06-22-2019, 07:24 AM
The opinion of one man who has a lot of opinions. And he talks about sources, not facts. Did you confuse yourself?

Fact: Bad sources = Questionable "facts"

Glad I could clear that up ;)

MMC
06-22-2019, 07:28 AM
Fact: Bad sources = Questionable "facts"

Glad I could clear that up ;)


Fact.....MediaBias ran by a leftist with bare research. Who AIM debunked and for being Partisan.


Glad I could clear that up. :laugh:

Peter1469
06-22-2019, 07:28 AM
Fact: Bad sources = Questionable "facts"

Glad I could clear that up ;)
If you question the facts you can counter the facts rather than lazily claiming since you don't like the source anything in it is suspect.

MMC
06-22-2019, 07:32 AM
If you question the facts you can counter the facts rather than lazily claiming since you don't like the source anything in it is suspect.

Kind of Hard for him to counter Newbusters for reporting on what NBC says it was doing. :laugh:


As NewsBusters reported (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/06/10/nbc-boasts-new-big-idea-series-just-megaphone-2020-dem) Monday night, NBC News has launched a new report series dedicated to promoting the “big ideas” put forward solely by Democratic 2020 candidates ahead of the debates in a few weeks. Tuesday’s edition followed California Senator Kamala Harris as she campaigned in South Carolina to jack up the death tax to pay for an increase in teacher salaries.


NBC Nightly News anchor Lester Holt flaunted the fact that the series was only open to Democrats looking push their radical policy positions. “[W]e turn now to My Big Idea. Our series giving Democrats running for president a chance to share an idea that they believe separates them from the pack,” he admitted.....snip~

Bo-4
06-22-2019, 07:32 AM
NADA.....nothing.....Zilch. No talking points by the Demo Underground was put out this week. :grin:
I use Demo Underground, Crooks & Liars, Young Turks, and Daily Kos as sources on the rarest of occasions when they are linking another site that isn't working for me.

In turn, you should use Daily Wire, Newsbusters, Infowars, Gateway Pundit, Drudge, and Breitbart only if confronted by similar circumstances.

Otherwise you risk being taken about as seriously as I take many of you. ;-)

MMC
06-22-2019, 07:35 AM
I use Demo Underground, Crooks & Liars, The Young Turks, and Daily Kos as sources on the rarest of occasions when they are linking another site that isn't working for me.

In turn, you should use Daily Wire, Infowars, Gateway Pundit, Drudge, and Breitbart only if confronted by similar circumstances.

Otherwise you risk being taken about as seriously as I take many of you. ;-)

Well as you can see here. Its going to be difficult for you to get around what NBC News and their new series. Big Idea. Is doing. Despite Newsbusters reporting what NBC they themselves stated.

Especially after Lester Holt stated it was for Demo Primary Candidates only. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

Bo-4
06-22-2019, 07:43 AM
Well as you can see here. Its going to be difficult for you to get around what NBC News and their new series. Big Idea. Is doing. Despite Newsbusters reporting what NBC they themselves stated.

Especially after Lester Holt stated it was for Demo Primary Candidates only. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

Ofttimes the problem with your far RW sites reporting things that mainstream media is reporting is their HEADLINE with trigger words:


NBC Promotes Kamala Harris’s ‘Big Idea’ to Jack Up the Death Tax


Pete suggests that I'm just being lazy. But I'm not generally the lazy one. The average RW loon doesn't click links to read from the original source.

They see the HEADLINE, scratch their bellies, fart, belch and mutter something about "those damn lib-ruls" ;-)

Peter1469
06-22-2019, 07:48 AM
Ofttimes the problem with your far RW sites reporting things that mainstream media is reporting is their HEADLINE with trigger words:


NBC Promotes Kamala Harris’s ‘Big Idea’ to Jack Up the Death Tax


Pete suggests that I'm just being lazy. But I'm not generally the lazy one. The average RW loon doesn't click links to read from the original source.

They see the HEADLINE, scratch their bellies, fart, belch and mutter something about "those damn lib-ruls" ;-)
You are lazy when you assume MediaBiasCheck is a fact checker. It isn't.

MMC
06-22-2019, 07:55 AM
Ofttimes the problem with your far RW sites reporting things that mainstream media is reporting is their HEADLINE with trigger words:


NBC Promotes Kamala Harris’s ‘Big Idea’ to Jack Up the Death Tax


Pete suggests that I'm just being lazy. But I'm not generally the lazy one. The average RW loon doesn't click links to read from the original source.

They see the HEADLINE, scratch their bellies, fart, belch and mutter something about "those damn lib-ruls" ;-)

Lets see.....NBC hold a new series for Demo Primary Candidates. Called Big Idea. To distinguish each Candidate from the other. Kamala Harris is the Second in the series with her Big idea on the Death Tax. That distinguishers her from the other Demo Candidates.


Even teachers couldn’t accurately guess the average teacher salary. And teachers’ support for pay raises dropped by over 20 percentage points when they found out the true average salary,” the Review added. That’s not to mention that the Social Security Administration (https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/AWI.html) had calculated that 2017’s national average wage was $50,321.89, which means that teachers got paid more than the national average.While completely ignoring those facts, Smith allowed Harris to freely declare “we will pay for it by increasing the estate tax.” Estate tax, a.k.a. the death tax.


This Democrat-policy megaphone segment came shortly after the network boosted former Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Iowa, where he decried President Trump’s trade war because it hurt Iowa farmers. But one of the largest threats to family farms (like the ones in Iowa) was the death tax.


Because of the value wrapped up in all aspects of farming and its illiquid nature, it can become nearly impossible for families to keep their farms when they’re forced to pay massive death taxes after a loved one passes.....snip~


Jack up means increasing.....and clearly Kamala Harris stated she would increased the Death Tax.


Of course now you assuming when people see headlines. Helps that uhm Liberal Logic you just demonstrated. :laugh:

Tahuyaman
06-22-2019, 08:31 AM
Ofttimes the problem with your far RW sites reporting things that mainstream media is reporting is their HEADLINE with trigger words:


NBC Promotes Kamala Harris’s ‘Big Idea’ to Jack Up the Death Tax


Pete suggests that I'm just being lazy. But I'm not generally the lazy one. The average RW loon doesn't click links to read from the original source.

They see the HEADLINE, scratch their bellies, fart, belch and mutter something about "those damn lib-ruls" ;-)
She said what she said. It doesn't matter how much you attack the messengerc.

Tahuyaman
06-22-2019, 09:02 AM
Fact: Bad sources = Questionable "facts"

Glad I could clear that up ;)

NBC is a questionable source? Are you questioning Harris' own words?

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/kamala-harris-big-idea-raising-teacher-pay-61728837689

Tahuyaman
06-22-2019, 10:30 PM
So Bo-4, now that you’ve seen her comments and it’s been reported by several news outlets, what do you think of her “big idea”?

Bo-4
06-23-2019, 08:13 AM
So @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297), now that you’ve seen her comments and it’s been reported by several news outlets, what do you think of her “big idea”?
Paying teachers commensurate to other educated professionals? I think it's a great idea. And yes "JACK UP THE DEATH TAX" by all means (LoL)

Draw a line in the sand as to what people can inherit tax free same as it has been for most of the last half century at a minimum.

And the millionaire tax? Gee I dunno - Baseball and basketball been very VERY good to Mike Trout & Steph Curry. Should they pay a little more on their income between 10 and THIRTY FIVE MILLION?

HELL yes.

The Betsy DeVos/ GOP plan is fun though. Treat teachers like such crap that they all quit and you can shut down public education.

That or replace qualified teachers with home skooled Christian 18 year olds with a GED.

They can teach the Bible. What else do our kids really need to know? :rolleyes20:

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 08:26 AM
Glad to see that you want to increase taxes, especially on money which has already been taxed several times, then hand even more power over to the federal government.

MMC
06-23-2019, 08:34 AM
So @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297), now that you’ve seen her comments and it’s been reported by several news outlets, what do you think of her “big idea”?


LMAO.....You should have known T. He would be all for stealing other peoples hard earned money.

Admiral Ackbar
06-23-2019, 09:17 AM
Didn't she get advantage by banging Willie Brown?

She is a plain Ho' bag.

I disregard her as such

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 09:25 AM
LMAO.....You should have known T. He would be all for stealing other peoples hard earned money.
Of course. You must get back at those who received an inheritance. After all they don’t deserve it. Plus we need the federal government to confiscate that money because government deserves it. Then they need to dole it out to local school districts as long as they jump through the proper hoops like trained seals.

Still, when this was reported by news busters @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) calmed it biased and unreliable. Liberals like him should be ashamed and embarrass at always being exposed. I Don’t believe they realize that they look like hacks.

MMC
06-23-2019, 09:41 AM
Of course. You must get back at those who received an inheritance. After all they don’t deserve it. Plus we need the federal government to confiscate that money because government deserves it. Then they need to dole it out to local school districts as long as they jump through the proper hoops like trained seals.

Still, when this was reported by news busters @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) calmed it biased and unreliable. Liberals like him should be ashamed and embarrass at always being exposed. I Don’t believe they realize that they look like hacks.

The funny part was about the Camel Humps deflection with School Teachers. Other professions get shitcanned when they fail.

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 09:54 AM
Draw a line in the sand as to what people can inherit tax free same as it has been for most of the last half century at a minimum.

And the millionaire tax? Gee I dunno - Baseball and basketball been very VERY good to Mike Trout & Steph Curry. Should they pay a little more on their income between 10 and THIRTY FIVE MILLION....


Why do you need to draw a line for How much someone can inherit tax free? What business is it of yours or of Government?

Don't very wealthy people already pay more than you? Why do you need more from them? Is it envy? Jealosy? Resentment?

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 10:01 AM
If we let them, goverment would take it all and give us an allowance based on their idea of what we all earned by how our efforts contributded to society.

MMC
06-23-2019, 12:39 PM
The only Big Idea that (worked) Camel Hump ever had.....was shaggin a Married Willie Brown to get her into politics. Just an FYI there ya Borg Drones of the Collective.

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 01:48 PM
I’m just laughing that a big idea is increasing taxes and centralizing more power at the federal level. No one’s ever thought of that before.

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 05:55 PM
It’s humorous to see how Bo-4 was claiming Harris’ “big idea” was fake news when I used news busters as the source, but now he supports her big idea when he finds out it’s not fake news.

donttread
06-23-2019, 07:15 PM
Kamala Harris laid out her "big idea". Increase a specific federal tax in order to increase teacher's pay. Is there a national teacher pay scale? What a huge new idea.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/06/11/nbc-promotes-kamala-harriss-big-idea-jack-death-tax

Sure the feds will fix education. LOL. Just like Bush's "every child left behind"

donttread
06-23-2019, 07:18 PM
All that work the founders put in enumerating powers..... apparently for nothing.

Tahuyaman
06-23-2019, 07:26 PM
Sure the feds will fix education. LOL. Just like Bush's "every child left behind"
Actually no child left behind was Ted Kennedy’s idea. Bush, like an idiot went along with it.

donttread
06-23-2019, 07:39 PM
Actually no child left behind was Ted Kennedy’s idea. Bush, like an idiot went along with it.


He sure took the photo ops and he was pres, so ...... I mean I seriously doubt that most programs are conceptualized by the politician that gets the "credit". So if Kennedy was involved we have a bonafide bipartisan federal power grab.

Bo-4
06-24-2019, 08:24 AM
It’s humorous to see how @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) was claiming Harris’ “big idea” was fake news when I used news busters as the source, but now he supports her big idea when he finds out it’s not fake news.

Your reading skills suck - much like Donald's. What I SAID was that these extreme right sights sensationalize their headlines. Who would want to go further, other than RW loons? Music to their ears - not to mine.

MMC
06-24-2019, 08:39 AM
Your reading skills suck - much like Donald's. What I SAID was that these extreme right sights sensationalize their headlines. Who would want to go further, other than RW loons? Music to their ears - not to mine.

Which mean you said a whole lot of nothing because in the World of Media. They all Sensationalize their Headlines.

Collateral Damage
06-24-2019, 08:45 AM
Of course they want to increase teachers pay, based on whim and not merit.

While there are a some teachers out there that still believe in what their job is, unfortunately there are many more who have become glorified babysitters, teaching propaganda and how to take a test, rather than the information that actually provides a basis for life.

How sad that raising a child is handed off to someone else, rather than by Mom and Dad....

Tahuyaman
06-24-2019, 10:26 AM
Your reading skills suck - much like Donald's. What I SAID was that these extreme right sights sensationalize their headlines. Who would want to go further, other than RW loons? Music to their ears - not to mine.

There you do with insults again.


The headline was accurate.