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donttread
06-27-2019, 08:46 PM
This isn't a debate it's a synchronized party talking point display. From a strategic POV , they are way too radical on immigration.
The question is why

1) They really believe we can take care of the world?

2) They know this a throw away election and they are trying to polarize as the beginning of 2024 preparations?

3) They are really that out of touch?

The Xl
06-27-2019, 08:56 PM
They were talking about giving illegal immigrations health insurance. How out of touch can you get? Like this country doesn't have enough issues already

MMC
06-28-2019, 07:24 AM
All 3.....and yes they are really out of touch.

MMC
06-28-2019, 07:34 AM
They were talking about giving illegal immigrations health insurance. How out of touch can you get? Like this country doesn't have enough issues already

Not just free healthcare. But decriminalizing all immigration.


You have to remember their all caught up in their emotions over the illegal lil children. Anything having to do with the illegal children. Illegal women and children. Whatever the lame stream sensationalizes. Like that Illegal immigrant father that killed himself and his daughter drowning by attempting to swim the Rio Grande.


Not one of the Deviates.....blamed the father. But their so so sad that they just can't think clearly or about what is Right.


Which btw.....with all the Demos saying what they did about illegals. Just how does that affect those economic migrants that want to come here? Who is influencing more of the illegals to come. To take that dangerous journey? But they care about those lil kids Right?


The Ghouls that want to kill babies.....now all of a sudden are so emotionally wrought over lil kids. Yeah Right. Get real. Once a Ghoul always a ghoul.

donttread
06-28-2019, 07:39 AM
They were talking about giving illegal immigrations health insurance. How out of touch can you get? Like this country doesn't have enough issues already

And no deportation for illegals who's only crime was crossing the border. They would " be welcomed to the great American experience" or some similar statement. Which would of course encourage more to illegally enter the country from all over the world. We cannot feed the world. I'm not justifying all of our current policy, but we cannot take everybody in.

Peter1469
06-28-2019, 07:41 AM
This isn't a debate it's a synchronized party talking point display. From a strategic POV , they are way too radical on immigration.
The question is why

1) They really believe we can take care of the world?

2) They know this a throw away election and they are trying to polarize as the beginning of 2024 preparations?

3) They are really that out of touch?
Yes. Those fools are that out of touch. The Dems are working on getting Mondaled (winning only 13 electoral votes).

DGUtley
06-28-2019, 08:00 AM
I don't understand it. I truly don't. Do these people really believe this? Do they really want this? Do they lust for power that badly?

MMC
06-28-2019, 08:42 AM
I don't understand it. I truly don't. Do these people really believe this? Do they really want this? Do they lust for power that badly?


Yes.....yes…..and mostly definitely. Whatever it takes to gain power. Cheating, Breaking laws. The end justifies the means.

MMC
06-28-2019, 08:55 AM
Did you hear Kamala Harris. The leftness thinks she dinged Biden.


Harris was like.....your remarks are hurtful. Biden should have told her.....here is a Box of Posh Puffs with aloe. It will soothe the burn.


Note how that worked folks. Harris played victim. Then their leftists Pundits rave about Harris knocking Biden down a notch. That's just how delusional the leftness really is. I was that little girl on the Bus Joe said Camel Hump. Creepy Joe should have said.....at the back of the bus, huh?

MMC
06-28-2019, 09:36 AM
Over the Span of Two Days, Harris and Warren Stood Out From Pack (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/front-running-biden-trips-first-2020-democratic-debate-n1024386)


Biden Falters in His First Big Test (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/450811-biden-falters-in-democratic-debate)



All Dem Candidates Agree on Health Care for Illegal Immigrants (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/27/all_dem_candidates_raise_hand_when_asked_if_illega l_immigrants_should_get_health_care_coverage_at_de bate.html)



On Crowded Stage, Harris Stands Out and Sets Tone (https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/On-crowded-stage-senator-from-California-stands-14057705.php)
Dan Balz, Washington Post



Biden Got Demolished, Doesn't Look So 'Electable' Anymore (https://theweek.com/articles/849877)
Damon Linker, The Week



Why NBC Singled Out Gabbard for a Negative Question (https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/27/tulsi-gabbard-democrat-asked-negative-question-last-night/)
Michael Tracey, The Federalist



First Debate Proves Democratic Party Has Gone Loco (https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/27/first-debate-proved-democratic-party-gone-loco/)
David Harsanyi, The Federalist



First Dem Debate Was a Good Night — for Team Trump (https://nypost.com/2019/06/27/first-democratic-debate-was-a-good-night-for-team-trump/)
John Podhoretz, NY Post




:laugh:

Common
06-28-2019, 09:44 AM
If a democrat beats Trump and the democrat house doesnt at least lose some seats, im going to give up politics and im just going to ride my life out and let everyone else worry about it, my time will be over.

How anyone can possibly vote for democrats who only tell us that they are going to give away TRILLIONS of dollars and alot of it to illegal immigrants that break our laws. Free healthcare, Free college, reparations for blacks and gays and on and on.

They dont tell us how they will govern, they dont tell us how they are going to grow jobs, they dont tell us anything but if you work in america FU and we are going to rape you and give it to people who do not.

Hey if they win with that platform america asked them to stick it to them

Tahuyaman
06-28-2019, 10:01 AM
They were talking about giving illegal immigrations health insurance. How out of touch can you get? Like this country doesn't have enough issues already
Evidently they think a majority of the voting public believes that is sound policy. Free college, Medicare for all, universal basic income, open borders, increased taxes on the middle class...


Greedy rich people and evil corporations. We'll see if class warfare is as prevelant as they think.

MMC
06-28-2019, 10:03 AM
If a democrat beats Trump and the democrat house doesnt at least lose some seats, im going to give up politics and im just going to ride my life out and let everyone else worry about it, my time will be over.

How anyone can possibly vote for democrats who only tell us that they are going to give away TRILLIONS of dollars and alot of it to illegal immigrants that break our laws. Free healthcare, Free college, reparations for blacks and gays and on and on.

They dont tell us how they will govern, they dont tell us how they are going to grow jobs, they dont tell us anything but if you work in america FU and we are going to rape you and give it to people who do not.

Hey if they win with that platform america asked them to stick it to them

The Biggest Winners of Thursday Night's Dem Debate? Illegal Immigrants.

The Democrats on stage during Thursday night’s debate looked more like they were competing to be the president of illegal immigrants than they were of Americans.


Not only did all 10 Democrats on stage raise their hand when asked who supported giving illegal immigrants free healthcare, they also advocated for open borders.....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/06/28/the-biggest-winners-of-thursday-nights-dem-debate-illegal-immigrants-n2549167



Socialism and caring more for illegals than US citizens. They won't be winning anything.

Jeb!
06-28-2019, 10:12 AM
I'm glad they took a principled stand in favor of health care for criminal immigrants, the most important issue of our time.

rcfieldz
06-28-2019, 10:22 AM
Kamala Harris wants to pass laws that help blacks and make life easy for them. Listening to the Dems ...and I believe America and the World is doomed.
The bleeding heart liberals are easily hoodwinked into their own sob stories. I say let the Dems pay to support those immigrant families financially and they can give their money, homes and jobs to them Not mine.
They will use your hard earned tax dollars to support freeloaders. With the stroke of a pen, when they are in office, you can see the middle class tax dollars going to support illegal immigrants. When it should be spent on Americans who are making this country great again!

Peter1469
06-28-2019, 10:50 AM
If a democrat beats Trump and the democrat house doesnt at least lose some seats, im going to give up politics and im just going to ride my life out and let everyone else worry about it, my time will be over.

How anyone can possibly vote for democrats who only tell us that they are going to give away TRILLIONS of dollars and alot of it to illegal immigrants that break our laws. Free healthcare, Free college, reparations for blacks and gays and on and on.

They dont tell us how they will govern, they dont tell us how they are going to grow jobs, they dont tell us anything but if you work in america FU and we are going to rape you and give it to people who do not.

Hey if they win with that platform america asked them to stick it to them
Immigration will be the primary issue in 2020. The Dems are setting themselves up to be Mondaled. (13 electoral votes). Americans are not for open borders.

2016 was about Nationalism v. Globalism. 2020 will drill down on that- with migration. We don't want it.

Mister D
06-28-2019, 10:53 AM
The other night Castro declared support for transwomen (i.e. men) having abortions. Instead of laughing the audience clapped.

Peter1469
06-28-2019, 11:20 AM
The other night Castro declared support for transwomen (i.e. men) having abortions. Instead of laughing the audience clapped.
That was a shock.

Pubic schools I suppose.

The Xl
06-28-2019, 11:55 AM
I thought the whole debate last night was a freak show, but the so called winner in terms of optics was probably Harris, she was assertive and dominated the floor, made Biden pretty uncomfortable too.

MisterVeritis
06-28-2019, 12:05 PM
If a democrat beats Trump and the democrat house doesnt at least lose some seats, im going to give up politics and im just going to ride my life out and let everyone else worry about it, my time will be over.

How anyone can possibly vote for democrats who only tell us that they are going to give away TRILLIONS of dollars and alot of it to illegal immigrants that break our laws. Free healthcare, Free college, reparations for blacks and gays and on and on.

They dont tell us how they will govern, they dont tell us how they are going to grow jobs, they dont tell us anything but if you work in america FU and we are going to rape you and give it to people who do not.

Hey if they win with that platform america asked them to stick it to them
You will not be able to "ride it out."

If you are a straight, white, middle class male the Democrats are coming for you. First they will steal your wealth. They will take your property and promise you a small stipend. They have already said they might have to confiscate your weapons. They plan to lay the burdens of every victim group at your feet. If they win the remaining option, given that an Article V convention of states was just too hard, is a civil war with real bloodletting.

If you are not up to it plan on living out your life as an impoverished sub-human. Or worse. Every time angry socialists, fascists, and communists seize power millions of people are murdered.

So arm up, train up, band together, and plan now for the civil war you know is coming. President Trump will be the next President. After him it will be Democrats, and only democrats until the USA ends. Democrats may very well control the House from now on. If not from this point then certainly by 2024. Then the Senate will flip to the Democrats.

After that the soft tyranny will turn hard. They plan to take everything from us. If we are not planning to defend ourselves in a civil war we will be impoverished. Our existence will be deemed a hate crime.

If you don't believe me now you will by 2024.

The Xl
06-28-2019, 12:11 PM
The country is pretty fucked. The extremists are coming now. The Republicans did not do a good job over the last 30-40 years of convincing people of their message. That's probably because their message has generally been shit. Instead of being the party of small government, they've latched on to silly shit, like being bought and paid for by giant corporations and banks, being warmongers, peddling to the religious right, etc, all stuff that does not appeal to younger people. It didn't have to be this way, but we're too far in deep now. The only sane one in this race is Gabbard, hope she wins the primary, but she probably won't. If any other of the candidates win the primary and beat Trump we're fucked. Imagine a Julian Castro Presidency? Good lord, we'd be talking about the Obama administration as the good old days if that were to happen.

MisterVeritis
06-28-2019, 12:16 PM
The country is pretty fucked. The extremists are coming now. The Republicans did not do a good job over the last 30-40 years of convincing people of their message. That's probably because their message has generally been shit. Instead of being the party of small government, they've latched on to silly shit, like being bought and paid for by giant corporations and banks, being warmongers, peddling to the religious right, etc, all stuff that does not appeal to younger people. It didn't have to be this way, but we're too far in deep now. The only sane one in this race is Gabbard, hope she wins the primary, but she probably won't. If any other of the candidates win the primary and beat Trump we're fucked. Imagine a Julian Castro Presidency? Good lord, we'd be talking about the Obama administration as the good old days if that were to happen.
The failure was to sell individual liberty and freedom. We see it here. Even among conservatives and Republicans. We do not value liberty and freedom. How can we tell a story we do not believe ourselves? So we will have to fight. A million or more democrats will be killed. And a similar number of patriots. In the end the patriots will win. We are well armed. Many of us are well trained.

But what a cost in blood and treasure.

The Xl
06-28-2019, 12:55 PM
The failure was to sell individual liberty and freedom. We see it here. Even among conservatives and Republicans. We do not value liberty and freedom. How can we tell a story we do not believe ourselves? So we will have to fight. A million or more democrats will be killed. And a similar number of patriots. In the end the patriots will win. We are well armed. Many of us are well trained.

But what a cost in blood and treasure.

Their won't be a fight. Either people will wake up or their will be a soft coup. In time, unless something changes, conservatives simply will not have the power and numbers.

Tahuyaman
06-28-2019, 01:39 PM
I thought it was revealing when Kamala Harris chastised the group by saying “the American people don’t want to see a good fight. They want to know how we are going to put food on their table”.

When did it become the responsibility of government to put food on our table? Is that the next proposal? Free groceries for all.

jimmyz
06-28-2019, 01:46 PM
You will not be able to "ride it out."

If you are a straight, white, middle class male the Democrats are coming for you. First they will steal your wealth. They will take your property and promise you a small stipend. They have already said they might have to confiscate your weapons. They plan to lay the burdens of every victim group at your feet. If they win the remaining option, given that an Article V convention of states was just too hard, is a civil war with real bloodletting.

If you are not up to it plan on living out your life as an impoverished sub-human. Or worse. Every time angry socialists, fascists, and communists seize power millions of people are murdered.

So arm up, train up, band together, and plan now for the civil war you know is coming. President Trump will be the next President. After him it will be Democrats, and only democrats until the USA ends. Democrats may very well control the House from now on. If not from this point then certainly by 2024. Then the Senate will flip to the Democrats.

After that the soft tyranny will turn hard. They plan to take everything from us. If we are not planning to defend ourselves in a civil war we will be impoverished. Our existence will be deemed a hate crime.

If you don't believe me now you will by 2024.
The Dems had the House for 40 straight years after WWII. And yet we still live. Be a little more bullish.

Hoosier8
06-28-2019, 02:07 PM
The Dems had the House for 40 straight years after WWII. And yet we still live. Be a little more bullish.
Certainly not these democrats. The extremists are now calling moderate democrats (read that still left of the past democrats) racists for not falling in line.

Tahuyaman
06-28-2019, 02:17 PM
Certainly not these democrats. The extremists are now calling moderate democrats (read that still left of the past democrats) racists for not falling in line.
The Democratic Party of the past was liberal, but not extreme left wing like they are now. They are now supporting complete socialism.

Peter1469
06-28-2019, 04:19 PM
Their won't be a fight. Either people will wake up or their will be a soft coup. In time, unless something changes, conservatives simply will not have the power and numbers.
The conservatives have the guns and the skills to use them. When the two main parties destroy the US as we know it, conservatives will carve out local havens for rational people, and the others will suffer.

Hoosier8
06-29-2019, 10:22 PM
The Democratic Party of the past was liberal, but not extreme left wing like they are now. They are now supporting complete socialism.
Actually, Kennedy would be considered a far right extremist for his views today.

Tahuyaman
06-29-2019, 10:42 PM
Actually, Kennedy would be considered a far right extremist for his views today.
Especially for his views on taxation.

MMC
06-30-2019, 08:20 AM
LMAO.....Kamala Harris is getting jacked for lying about Unemployment. Trump's Tax cuts and the economy. But somehow in leftist Bizarro world. She owned the Second debate. :laugh:

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 09:22 AM
One of the best moments of the second Democratic debate was watching two candidates go back and forth about the virtues of a failure of ge late 60's and early 70's. Forced bussing. That was a complete disaster wherever it was tried. It did the exact opposite as what the liberals intended it to do.

Hoosier8
07-01-2019, 09:35 AM
One of the best moments of the second Democratic debate was watching two candidates go back and forth about the virtues of a failure of ge late 60's and early 70's. Forced bussing. That was a complete disaster wherever it was tried. It did the exact opposite as what the liberals intended it to do.
I have been to school board meetings and the only ones complaining about forced busing were the black parents. Of course Harris is for forced busing.

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 09:45 AM
I have been to school board meetings and the only ones complaining about forced busing were the black parents. Of course Harris is for forced busing.
It was an abject failure. It helped ruin our urban public schools. I love watching liberals argue over the virtues of their past failed ideas.

MMC
07-01-2019, 09:48 AM
I have been to school board meetings and the only ones complaining about forced busing were the black parents. Of course Harris is for forced busing.

Of course she is. If its okay for her to be that lil girl on the bus. Its okay for others.


Kamala Harris favors reinstating school busing but has no ... (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-favors-reinstating-school-busing-but-has-no-plan-to-show-for-it)https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-favors-reinstating-school-busing...
1 day ago · Sen. Kamala Harris supports reinstating school busing to boost school integration and help combat racial animus and inequality that still linger in this country. But the Democratic presidential ...


In Unbelievable Comments, Kamala Harris Endorses Forced ... (https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/07/01/659657/)https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/07/01/659657
1 hour ago · But because the Democratic party never stops becoming more radical, we can’t stop at revising history with unfair attacks on the matter. No, Kamala Harris is now coming out in favor of forced busing, not in the 1970s, but for today’s students..@KamalaHarris: “I support busing. Listen, the schools of America are as segregated, if not more …

donttread
07-01-2019, 03:32 PM
Yes. Those fools are that out of touch. The Dems are working on getting Mondaled (winning only 13 electoral votes).


I think you are partly right, however I also believe they have an agenda. Party over candidate into 2022 and 2024? I mean they literally used a debate that could give one of them the edge over the others to push dem talking points and bash Trump. Only neutered candidates would do that. Not only that, but as I alluded to, they were pushing over the top policy that even the average party voter will have trouble agreeing with. Not just a softer policy on illegal immigration, but allowing those with no other record to stay. That would , of course, set the stage for massive increases in illegal immigration.
It does not make sense in reality.

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 03:41 PM
I think you are partly right, however I also believe they have an agenda. Party over candidate into 2022 and 2024? I mean they literally used a debate that could give one of them the edge over the others to push dem talking points and bash Trump. Only neutered candidates would do that. Not only that, but as I alluded to, they were pushing over the top policy that even the average party voter will have trouble agreeing with. Not just a softer policy on illegal immigration, but allowing those with no other record to stay. That would , of course, set the stage for massive increases in illegal immigration.
It does not make sense in reality.

The Democrats agenda isn’t party over candidate. Their only agenda is to beat Trump. They don’t care who that candidate is or what policies he or she advocates.

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 03:44 PM
Of course she is. If its okay for her to be that lil girl on the bus. Its okay for others.


Kamala Harris favors reinstating school busing but has no ... (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-favors-reinstating-school-busing-but-has-no-plan-to-show-for-it)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-favors-reinstating-school-busing...
1 day ago · Sen. Kamala Harris supports reinstating school busing to boost school integration and help combat racial animus and inequality that still linger in this country. But the Democratic presidential ...


In Unbelievable Comments, Kamala Harris Endorses Forced ... (https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/07/01/659657/)

https://www.redstate.com (http://www.redstate.com)/bonchie/2019/07/01/659657
1 hour ago · But because the Democratic party never stops becoming more radical, we can’t stop at revising history with unfair attacks on the matter. No, Kamala Harris is now coming out in favor of forced busing, not in the 1970s, but for today’s students..@KamalaHarris: “I support busing. Listen, the schools of America are as segregated, if not more …
If she’s going to advocate resurrecting the failure of forced busing, she’s not as smart as I gave her credit for.

MMC
07-01-2019, 03:50 PM
If she’s going to advocate resurrecting the failure of forced busing, she’s not as smart as I gave her credit for.

I never thought she was all that smart. Like Hillary she is nothing more than a token Senator. Was handed her Senator seat. The left was pimpering her out as the female version of BO the Peep.

donttread
07-01-2019, 04:11 PM
The Democrats agenda isn’t party over candidate. Their only agenda is to beat Trump. They don’t care who that candidate is or what policies he or she advocates.

I think they dictate platform to their candidates , which certainly explains the debate free debate.

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 04:33 PM
I think they dictate platform to their candidates , which certainly explains the debate free debate.
The main plank in their platform is “beat Trump”. They don’t care about what they need to say or who says it.

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 04:41 PM
I never thought she was all that smart. Like Hillary she is nothing more than a token Senator. Was handed her Senator seat. The left was pimpering her out as the female version of BO the Peep.
No. She’s fairly bright. She’s a good communicator. She’s just like most liberals. Misguided.

MMC
07-01-2019, 05:15 PM
No. She’s fairly bright. She’s a good communicator. She’s just like most liberals. Misguided.

Yes.....she is good at speaking out both sides of her mouth. Playing with terminology and using big words that she really doesn't understand.

Tahuyaman
07-01-2019, 06:53 PM
Yes.....she is good at speaking out both sides of her mouth. Playing with terminology and using big words that she really doesn't understand.
She knows what she’s saying. Her intention is to deceive. Informed people don’t fall for it.

texan
07-01-2019, 08:33 PM
I was pretty disappointed. I tuned in because. Thought they were giving a play free cars and rent money. They haven’t gotten to that just yet. Maybe next time.

MMC
07-02-2019, 06:09 AM
She knows what she’s saying. Her intention is to deceive. Informed people don’t fall for it.

Yesterday.....she was trying out the BO Peep uttering and stuttering bit. Needs more work.