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bulletbob
07-03-2019, 11:41 AM
https://rightwingtribune.com/2019/07/02/hispanic-pastors-blow-the-whistle/



you decide.either AOC was lying or the 7 pastors were lying.

MMC
07-03-2019, 11:46 AM
https://rightwingtribune.com/2019/07/02/hispanic-pastors-blow-the-whistle/



you decide.either AOC was lying or the 7 pastors were lying.

AOC was lying. She voted against bettering conditions for illegals. Voted against funds for detainment centers.

Safety
07-03-2019, 11:50 AM
Interesting....if they say Congress must arrange two weeks in advance to be able to visit a facility, how is this "pastor" able to visit it to contradict AOC a day or two after she leaves?

:roflmao:

bulletbob
07-03-2019, 12:16 PM
Interesting....if they say Congress must arrange two weeks in advance to be able to visit a facility, how is this "pastor" able to visit it to contradict AOC a day or two after she leaves?

:roflmao:

Whats even more intresting is to think with a 2 week notice it was as bad as she said it was and the guards physically and sexually intimidated here then it would all be cleaned up in 2 days and running water installed .

DGUtley
07-03-2019, 12:27 PM
I don't know. I think she's an emotional young lady with an agenda. I also know that this horde of people can overwhelm the system - and (I believe) that their plan is to overwhelm the system. I think that they are doing the best that they can and she saw what she wanted to see. I also think that those women either don't understand it twisted it to get sympathy.

stjames1_53
07-03-2019, 01:06 PM
How would she know the difference between a hand sink and a toilet combo.....she didn't even know what a garbage disposal was.

stjames1_53
07-03-2019, 01:09 PM
I don't know. I think she's an emotional young lady with an agenda. I also know that this horde of people can overwhelm the system - and (I believe) that their plan is to overwhelm the system. I think that they are doing the best that they can and she saw what she wanted to see. I also think that those women either don't understand it twisted it to get sympathy.
she doesn't have her own agenda. She's being prompted by the New Socialist Democrats. Remember, she won the contest to represent them.
She doesn't really know anything about her job. She's just there to parrot her handlers.

Collateral Damage
07-03-2019, 01:12 PM
I was raised with 'if you don't see it with your own two eyes, then take 50% of each side, throw in some salt, and you may have something resembling the truth.

As another poster said, AOC is seeing what she wants to see, and likely the Pastor is also.

I highly doubt that detainees are told to drink out of toilets, but I'm sure not everything is perfect. Under the conditions of excess people, things are going to that way. But, I am also sure they are in better conditions then what they claim they left.

MMC
07-03-2019, 01:14 PM
The National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference is the world’s largest Hispanic Christian organization. Their takeaway was entirely contrary to AOC’s radical criticism of the CBP and its agents.


According to Rev. Rodriguez, who has advised President Trump, as well as Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush on immigration reform, CBP agents, many of whom are themselves Hispanic, told him:.....snip~


Damn those surprise visits.


Dem lawmakers make surprise visit to ICE detention center ... (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/392680-dem-lawmakers-make-surprise-visit-to-ice-detention-center)https://thehill.com/.../392680-dem-lawmakers-make-surprise-visit-to-ice-detention-center[/URL]
Several Democratic lawmakers on Sunday paid a "surprise Father's Day visit" to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center in New Jersey, capping off a week of heightened …




[URL="https://time.com/5318542/first-lady-melania-trump-visit-child-detention-center/"]Melania Trump Makes Surprise Visit at Detention Center | Time (https://www.bing.com/search?q=AOC+visits+detainment+center+surprise+vis it&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS#)https://time.com/5318542/first-lady-melania-trump-visit-child-detention-center
Jun 21, 2018 · First Lady Melania Trump paid a surprise visit to a child detention center in Texas on Thursday. One day after her husband signed an executive order to keep families together.

MMC
07-03-2019, 01:17 PM
I was raised with 'if you don't see it with your own two eyes, then take 50% of each side, throw in some salt, and you may have something resembling the truth.

As another poster said, AOC is seeing what she wants to see, and likely the Pastor is also.

I highly doubt that detainees are told to drink out of toilets, but I'm sure not everything is perfect. Under the conditions of excess people, things are going to that way. But, I am also sure they are in better conditions then what they claim they left.



AOC's version of people are drinking out of the toilets.

The Liberal Media Fell For Another Ocasio-Cortez Theater Production With ‘Detained Illegals Drinking From Toilets’ Lie


Well, well, well…it was all one massive lie, wasn’t it? Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) reportedly threw a tantrum (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/01/reports-ocasio-cortez-had-a-total-meltdown-at-u-s-border-patrol-facility-n2549318)at Border Patrol agents while visiting a facility in El Paso. She said the agents didn’t make her safe, whatever the hell that means, and that they were telling detained illegals to drink from the toilet (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/451211-ocasio-cortez-says-officials-at-migrant-detention-facility-were?amp&__twitter_impression=true). Yeah, that claim was blown up in about 30 seconds. The drinking fountains are connected to the toilets. Democrats lie. AOC lied. And they will do anything to try and stoke anger among Hispanic voters toward this White House; Trump’s support (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/hispanics-like-trump-the-same-as-other-republicans-despite-tough-border-stance)among Hispanics (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/03/05/trumps-support-among-hispanics-latinos-is-real-dont-assume-it-will-fade/?utm_term=.38115706a707)is not too shabby, by the way.



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I haven't seen photo of the Clint, TX facilities that @AOC (https://twitter.com/AOC) described today, but it would be interesting if "drinking from the toilet" meant drinking from an attached sink marked "potable water" -- like this image from a CBP holding facility in Tuscon (filed in federal court).



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SCOOP: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., screamed at federal law enforcement agents “in a threatening manner” during a visit to a U.S. Border Patrol facility in El Paso, Texas, Monday afternoon and refused to tour the facility, according to two people who witnessed it.



Grabien News searched Getty Images’ archive and located alternate-angle photos from this same event.The images, seen below, indicate AOC was crying at the sight of … a mostly empty lot.
[…]
Snopes actually claims they’ve debunked the report, but their investigation in fact does the opposite. As reported above, both the photographer who re-surfaced the photos as well as AOC suggested the images depict her crying at the sight of nearby “caged” children. Snopes spoke with the photographer, who confirms that’s not the case:
The pictures were ridiculed particularly as there was no sight of actual migrant children during the protest,” Fox News reported.
That’s no surprise, Aguirre told us. The roadway leading to the encampment was closed off to news media and protesters. “Obviously,” he said, “there weren’t kids two feet away.”
Further confirming Grabien News’ account, Aguirre provided another photo depicting the roadway that leads to where the housing facility is. The photo, below, makes clear there were no children within eyeshot of the protesters.


Liberal fact-checkers are trash and Snopes is trash. But even more importantly, AOC’s lies on this subject are starting to run as the southern border itself. As our friends at Twitchy put it, her lies on this matter have been "royally busted (https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/07/01/so-she-lied-looks-like-aoc-just-got-royally-busted-for-lying-about-her-horrifying-experience-at-a-cbp-detention-center/).".....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...s-lie-n2549361 (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/02/the-liberal-media-fell-for-another-ocasiocortez-theater-production-with-detained-illegals-drinking-from-toilets-lie-n2549361)



AOC has been caught outright lying to the American People.

AZ Jim
07-03-2019, 01:21 PM
https://rightwingtribune.com/2019/07/02/hispanic-pastors-blow-the-whistle/



you decide.either AOC was lying or the 7 pastors were lying.https://rightwingtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/logo-rwt.png

FindersKeepers
07-03-2019, 01:33 PM
Because she's said so many off-the-wall things, my money is on AOC being the one telling tall tales. I think the image posted above lends credibility to why she probably took it wrong about drinking out of toilets. Her "concentration camp" comments were even worse.

I don't know what AOC's problem is -- but she seems to have a big one.

stjames1_53
07-03-2019, 01:33 PM
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someone should, you don't have ours. as a matter of fact. you like to knife us in the back as much as you can or try to.......figuratively speaking, of course

FindersKeepers
07-03-2019, 01:36 PM
Interesting....if they say Congress must arrange two weeks in advance to be able to visit a facility, how is this "pastor" able to visit it to contradict AOC a day or two after she leaves?

:roflmao:


Is the pastor a congressman?

'nuff said.

MMC
07-03-2019, 01:37 PM
Reverend Rodriguez went so far as to tell Fox and Friends: “President Trump may surprise the world and succeed in passing immigration reform.”.....snip~



Hispanic pastors visit border facilities and say claims by ... (https://www.theblaze.com/news/hispanic-pastors-visit-border-debunk-aoc-claims)https://www.theblaze.com/news/hispanic-pastors-visit-border-debunk-aoc-claims[/URL]
6 hours ago · Hispanic pastors visited U.S. migrant border facilities and insisted that these camps aren't at all what some in the liberal media are making them out to be. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) visited the facilities at the U.S. southern border after branding them " concentration camps." She received heavy criticism from both sides of the a



Hispanic pastors tour border facilities, expose AOC as a ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Hispanic+Pastors+debunk+AOC+on+Border+fac ilities&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS#)https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/07/02/hispanic-pastors-tour-border-facilities-expose...
1 day ago · Hispanic pastors tour border facilities, expose AOC as a fraud: ‘Shocked by misinformation’ ... The National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference is offering to …



Hispanic pastors tour border facility lambasted by AOC and ... (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic)https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic
Hispanic pastor disputes Ocasio-Cortez's claims about border facilities. Reverend Samuel Rodriguez speaks out after visiting the same border detention center Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez visited.



Latino Pastor Shares ‘Drastically Different’ Story to AOC ... (https://ijr.com/latino-pastor-story-aoc-border-detention-conditions/)https://ijr.com/latino-pastor-story-aoc-border-detention-conditions
1 day ago · Latino Pastor Shares ‘Drastically Different’ Story to AOC on Border Dentition Conditions. ... Rodriguez was joined by other Hispanic pastors when he toured the facility, which Pastor Carlos …




Hispanic pastors tour border facility lambasted by AOC and ... (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3761075/posts)https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3761075/posts
1 day ago · Skip to comments. Hispanic pastors tour border facility lambasted by AOC and say they are ‘shocked by misinformation’ FOX News ^ | Caleb Parke Posted on 07/02/2019 11:00:25 AM PDT by Red Badger. Rev. Samuel Rodriguez was "full of indignation" when he saw the reports and heard from politicians about the deplorable and inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants at an El Paso County, …



Hispanic pastors tour border facility lambasted by AOC and ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Hispanic+Pastors+debunk+AOC+on+Border+fac ilities&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS&first=25&FORM=PERE1#)https://dailyhoustonnews.com/2019/07/02/hispanic-pastors-tour-border-facility...
Jul 02, 2019 · Rev. Samuel Rodriguez was “full of indignation” when he saw the reports and heard from politicians about the deplorable and inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants at an El Paso County, Texas migrant detention center. But what he saw at the same facility toured by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. with a group of pastors was “drastically different.”




AOC's Claims Disputed by Latino Pastors After They Tour ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Hispanic+Pastors+debunk+AOC+on+Border+fac ilities&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS&first=25&FORM=PERE1#)https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/immigration-aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-migrants/2019/...
AOC's Claims Disputed by Latino Pastors After They Tour Same Border Facility. ... president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference (NHCLC) and senior pastor of New Seasons Christian Worship Center in Sacramento. ... When questioned whether border agents had staged the facility amid the negative reports, …




[URL="https://ussanews.com/News1/2019/07/02/report-hispanic-pastors-tour-border-facility-lambasted-by-aoc-and-say-they-are-shocked-by-misinformation/"]REPORT: Hispanic pastors tour border facility lambasted by ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Hispanic+Pastors+debunk+AOC+on+Border+fac ilities&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS&first=25&FORM=PERE1#)https://ussanews.com/News1/2019/07/02/report-hispanic-pastors-tour-border-facility...
Jul 02, 2019 · REPORT: Hispanic pastors tour border facility lambasted by AOC and say they are ‘shocked by misinformation’ ... The president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, the world’s largest Hispanic Christian organization, and senior pastor of New Seasons Christian Worship Center in Sacramento shared his firsthand experience …



"WHAT".....what was you trying to say?

Tahuyaman
07-03-2019, 01:41 PM
I read a piece which said AOC didn’t see much of anything. She just went by something she was told by someone else without verifying it.

roadmaster
07-03-2019, 03:40 PM
Well no I don't automatically believe pastors. Reprobates run around claiming to be pastors today. But if you have ever been to these facilities you know they have those big water dispensers with cups like many business do for the people. So yea she is a liar and they have cameras there to prove it. These agents put their lives and their families lives in danger with diseases they encounter every week and other dangers. If you expect her to apologize or feel bad for her lies, then you don't understand she is a reprobate and it's not going to happen.

bulletbob
07-03-2019, 04:24 PM
We have to decide between 3 possiblitys.

1 aoc is lying

2 the pastors are lying

3 it was a set up by the boarder patrol and after aoc left they cleaned it all up in 2 days and installed running water.

Now we have to ask which had the most to gain.

bulletbob
07-05-2019, 10:11 AM
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az you would complain if trump flushed the toilet 2 times.