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Peter1469
07-20-2019, 05:56 PM
2020 Dems grapple with how to pay for 'Medicare for All' (https://apnews.com/44abd4806d374aeeb60fa89560d1c107)

Because we can't. Unless we adopt a European standard of health care, which is very different that what Americans demand.


Democratic presidential candidates trying to appeal to progressive voters with a call for “Medicare for All” are wrestling with the thorny question of how to pay for such a dramatic overhaul of the U.S. health care system.

Bernie Sanders, the chief proponent (https://www.apnews.com/ec36c409be344f23854ae4497ad87ee5) of Medicare for All, says such a remodel could cost up to $40 trillion over a decade. He’s been the most direct in talking about how he’d cover that eye-popping amount, including considering a tax hike on the middle class in exchange for healthcare without co-payments or deductibles — which, he contends, would ultimately cost Americans less than the current healthcare system.

His rivals who also support Medicare for All, however, have offered relatively few firm details so far about how they’d pay for a new government-run, single-payer system beyond raising taxes on top earners. As the health care debate dominates the early days of the Democratic primary, some experts say candidates won’t be able to duck the question for long.


“It’s not just the rich” who would be hit with new cost burdens to help make single-payer health insurance a reality, said John Holahan, a health policy fellow at the nonpartisan Urban Institute thinktank. Democratic candidates campaigning on Medicare for All should offer more specificity about how they would finance it, Holahan added.


Sanders himself has not thrown his weight behind a single strategy to pay for his plan, floating a list of options (https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/options-to-finance-medicare-for-all?id=8E063228-2387-4805-BFD2-82EA218861DA&download=1&inline=file) that include a 7.5% payroll tax on employers and higher taxes on the wealthy. But his list amounts to a more public explanation of how he would pay for Medicare for All than what other Democratic presidential candidates who also back his single-payer legislation have offered.


Kamala Harris, who has repeatedly tried to clarify her position on Medicare for All, vowed this week she wouldn’t raise middle-class taxes to pay for a shift to single-payer coverage. The California senator told CNN that “part of it is going to have to be about Wall Street paying more.”


Her contention prompted criticism that she wasn’t being realistic about what it would take to pay for Medicare for All. Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet, a rival Democratic presidential candidate, said Harris’ claim that Medicare for All would not involve higher taxes on the middle class was “impossible,” though he stopped short of calling her dishonest and said only that candidates “need to be clear” about their policies.

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MMC
07-20-2019, 06:28 PM
Cmon now....Demos and their ilk grapple with how to breathe air properly. Let alone dealing with anything else.

DGUtley
07-20-2019, 06:36 PM
Shocking. Just shocking.

MMC
07-20-2019, 07:06 PM
Sanders even wants to tax Stocks and trades. That would include 401k's, 403B's. Peoples Pensions. Like a True Communist, government will own everything.

Peter1469
07-20-2019, 07:34 PM
Sanders even wants to tax Stocks and trades. That would include 401k's, 403B's. Peoples Pensions. Like a True Communist, government will own everything.
That is the goal.

Tahuyaman
07-20-2019, 10:59 PM
2020 Dems grapple with how to pay for 'Medicare for All'First of all, MEDICARE for all is impossible. It would be MEDICAID for all and even that's impossible.

Tahuyaman
07-20-2019, 11:00 PM
Sanders even wants to tax Stocks and trades. That would include 401k's, 403B's. Peoples Pensions. Like a True Communist, government will own everything.
Sanders is a true believer in the old Soviet Union style of communism.

AZ Jim
07-20-2019, 11:21 PM
Take back the huge tax cuts for multi-millionaires Trump gave them....

Retirednsmilin308
07-20-2019, 11:28 PM
Take back the huge tax cuts for multi-millionaires cTrump gave them....



Or just don't build six F-35 fighters. Use what we already have and keep them flying.

I am all for national defense, but that F-35 is a defense contractor's wet dream.

We send a billion dollar plane overseas to blow up a $2,000 truck with a $300,000 missile.
(facepalm inserted here)

AZ Jim
07-20-2019, 11:34 PM
Or just don't build six F-35 fighters. Use what we already have and keep them flying.

I am all for national defense, but that F-35 is a defense contractor's wet dream.

We send a billion dollar plane overseas to blow up a $2,000 truck with a $300,000 missile.
(facepalm inserted here)Can you even begin to think what WW2 would have cost us at the current price of weapons?

Retirednsmilin308
07-20-2019, 11:48 PM
Can you even begin to think what WW2 would have cost us at the current price of weapons?



fortunately for us, there was no huge military industrial complex back then. It was just individual businesses with government contracts.
but also fortunately, everyone had some skin in the game in WW2.
The bolt for the machine gun they lady was building might be used by her own son.

Though we did have a lot of issues with our torpedoes early on that were fixed by local submariners in cooperation with aviation types. They used pieces of broken aircraft propellers to fix our torpedoes.

Not so now.

I was shipmates with a guy who was on Project White Knight. A technical investigation as to why the Navy's missiles were not exploding.
Turned out to be some cheap assed switch.