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Cigar
02-25-2013, 08:29 AM
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Just when you thought it was safe to doze off at the end of a long, long Oscars ceremony, the event's producers shocked everyone awake with a surprise cameo from Michelle Obama. The first lady appeared live from the White House to present the Academy Award for best picture to "Argo." There was no particular reason behind her appearance, but Michelle got into the spirit of the Oscars anyway: Like everyone else on stage, she was beautifully dressed (in a stunning metallic gown) and spoke too long, praising this year's achievements in film.

http://now.msn.com/michelle-obama-oscars-appearance-surprises-viewers?ocid=ansOSCARSnow11

ready-set-throw a tantrum ... :angry4:

ptif219
02-25-2013, 08:32 AM
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Just when you thought it was safe to doze off at the end of a long, long Oscars ceremony, the event's producers shocked everyone awake with a surprise cameo from Michelle Obama. The first lady appeared live from the White House to present the Academy Award for best picture to "Argo." There was no particular reason behind her appearance, but Michelle got into the spirit of the Oscars anyway: Like everyone else on stage, she was beautifully dressed (in a stunning metallic gown) and spoke too long, praising this year's achievements in film.

http://now.msn.com/michelle-obama-oscars-appearance-surprises-viewers?ocid=ansOSCARSnow11

ready-set-throw a tantrum ... :angry4:

The Obama's are publicity pigs and must be seen at all places. Who cares about the Obama's. The Obama's need to get out of the Hollywood scene and care more about the problems of this country

Cigar
02-25-2013, 08:37 AM
... apparently you do ... less than 60 seconds after this post

ptif219
02-25-2013, 08:42 AM
... apparently you do ... less than 60 seconds after this post

I did not watch that useless show full of arrogant liberals. The Obama's care more about being on TV than they do about the continued recession like economy and the high unemployment.


The Obama's have failed as leaders of this country but have won the useless publicity game

Pete7469
02-25-2013, 09:03 AM
I love how batshit crazy the bed wetters go over Sarah Palin, who's never weilded any power over them, never tried to take anything away from them, and never told them what they should eat as her ass expands.

I'm sick and tired of seeing the wookie on TV personally, but she does more to alienate people than anything else.

Cigar
02-25-2013, 09:24 AM
Wow ... looks like it works on internet forums also. :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Can anyone here imagine a world where the conservatives dominated the liberal arts.

I'm glad the first lady is doing a great job of smoking the haters out from under their rocks.

Keep up the good work. :icon_thumleft:

hanger4
02-25-2013, 02:57 PM
Does anybody see the irony in an Obama announcing the the winner and it being that move ??

Argos ??

BTW the move is about the rescue of some diplomats during the Iranian hostage crisis.

Cigar
02-25-2013, 03:01 PM
Does anybody see the irony in an Obama announcing the the winner and it being that move ??

Argos ??

BTW the move is about the rescue of some diplomats during the Iranian hostage crisis.

Yea ... it was a good movie

Looks like a lot of other people thing the same ...

Domestic Total as of Feb. 24, 2013: $129,791,000

hanger4
02-25-2013, 03:06 PM
Yea ... it was a good movie

Looks like a lot of other people thing the same ...

Domestic Total as of Feb. 24, 2013: $129,791,000

I knew you couldn't see the irony.

Cigar
02-25-2013, 03:24 PM
Don't believe me ... just read for yourself ...

Michelle Obama gave away the Best Picture award at last night’s Oscar telecast, and would you be surprised to learn that this has driven the wingnut keyboard commandos into fits of extreme racist rage? No? Me neither.


The right wing base is absolutely demented with dim-witted anger at Michelle Obama, ranting uncontrollably today at every single right wing website. They have a special hatred for the First Lady, so over the top it sometimes seems like a parody — but of course it isn’t.


I’ll just pick a few representative comments from two right wing sites. The references to “Star Wars” are their clever way of comparing Mrs. Obama to a Wookie. It’s one of their favorite racial slurs.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41664_Right_Wing_Rages_Uncontrollably_at_Michelle_ Obama-_Someone_Put_a_Bullet_in_That_Fat_Pig

hanger4
02-25-2013, 03:31 PM
Don't believe me ... just read for yourself ...

Michelle Obama gave away the Best Picture award at last night’s Oscar telecast, and would you be surprised to learn that this has driven the wingnut keyboard commandos into fits of extreme racist rage? No? Me neither.


The right wing base is absolutely demented with dim-witted anger at Michelle Obama, ranting uncontrollably today at every single right wing website. They have a special hatred for the First Lady, so over the top it sometimes seems like a parody — but of course it isn’t.


I’ll just pick a few representative comments from two right wing sites. The references to “Star Wars” are their clever way of comparing Mrs. Obama to a Wookie. It’s one of their favorite racial slurs.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41664_Right_Wing_Rages_Uncontrollably_at_Michelle_ Obama-_Someone_Put_a_Bullet_in_That_Fat_Pig

Like I said the "irony" is lost on you.

Cigar
02-25-2013, 03:34 PM
Like I said the "irony" is lost on you.

... and the bitterness and anger isn't lost on you.

Don't worry ... you have a little less than 4 years to get over it. :wink:

hanger4
02-25-2013, 03:43 PM
... and the bitterness and anger isn't lost on you.

Don't worry ... you have a little less than 4 years to get over it. :wink:

Not bitter or angry, could care less who gives the award away.

Tis funny that you can't see the irony.

killianr1
02-25-2013, 03:52 PM
I think he sees the irony but he will never admit it.

It is too big an embarassment for the administration.

hanger4
02-25-2013, 04:02 PM
I think he sees the irony but he will never admit it.

It is too big an embarassment for the administration.

Normally I'd agree,

but Cigar only thinks what the DU, KosKids, ThinkProgress, Maddow and a few others

tell him to think.

So I believe he hasn't a clue !!

Mainecoons
02-25-2013, 04:03 PM
Wonder what this little junket by our own Marie Antoinette cost the taxpayers this time?

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 04:58 PM
I didn't watch.

bladimz
02-25-2013, 05:48 PM
Wonder what this little junket by our own Marie Antoinette cost the taxpayers this time?I don't know... How much does it cost to walk to the spot in the WH where they did the presentation?

So. There's your junket for you. :smiley:

Adelaide
02-25-2013, 06:15 PM
I don't see anything wrong with it. The Academy Awards are recognition for an industry that makes billions of dollars in the US, including money from many other countries. I don't think anyone would have a problem with her doing it for other industries, such as oil companies or whatever.

Big whoop.

Mainecoons
02-25-2013, 06:29 PM
I don't know... How much does it cost to walk to the spot in the WH where they did the presentation?

So. There's your junket for you. :smiley:

We probably bought the dress and surely paid for all the hookups, etc. My mistake though, these people are off on junkets at taxpayer expense so often that I incorrectly assumed she spent a few millions and went there.

Forrest
02-25-2013, 06:35 PM
People frequently note the size of the First Ladies posterior. Google "hottentot females" for examples and biology.

Adelaide
02-25-2013, 07:00 PM
We probably bought the dress and surely paid for all the hookups, etc. My mistake though, these people are off on junkets at taxpayer expense so often that I incorrectly assumed she spent a few millions and went there.

You have a point - the dress and the presentation shouldn't have been paid for by public funds, (and we don't know if it was, to be fair). But I still think this isn't a big deal for the reasons in my first post; the film industry brings in billions when you consider all the movies. A lot of that money comes from other countries. It's an industry that should be supported, so I don't think it was overall inappropriate. But if she is going to support one industry, she should also do something to support others.

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 07:02 PM
I wonder how big the strap on she uses on Barak is...

Adelaide
02-25-2013, 07:05 PM
I wonder how big the strap on she uses on Barak is...

Seriously? Sinking that low?

bladimz
02-25-2013, 07:07 PM
FDR, Reagan, and Laura Bush all addressed the Academy Awards in the past, and no one took heat for it.

Strange times...

bladimz
02-25-2013, 07:11 PM
Seriously? Sinking that low?<Sure, why not. It's just one jab after another. And she certainly deserves it. After all, she's the wife of an American-hating Socialist tyrant...>

bladimz
02-25-2013, 07:12 PM
You have a point - the dress and the presentation shouldn't have been paid for by public funds, (and we don't know if it was, to be fair). But I still think this isn't a big deal for the reasons in my first post; the film industry brings in billions when you consider all the movies. A lot of that money comes from other countries. It's an industry that should be supported, so I don't think it was overall inappropriate. But if she is going to support one industry, she should also do something to support others.
She supports the health food industry, i'd say.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 07:20 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD7dhJuCEAALGku.jpg

Just when you thought it was safe to doze off at the end of a long, long Oscars ceremony, the event's producers shocked everyone awake with a surprise cameo from Michelle Obama. The first lady appeared live from the White House to present the Academy Award for best picture to "Argo." There was no particular reason behind her appearance, but Michelle got into the spirit of the Oscars anyway: Like everyone else on stage, she was beautifully dressed (in a stunning metallic gown) and spoke too long, praising this year's achievements in film.

http://now.msn.com/michelle-obama-oscars-appearance-surprises-viewers?ocid=ansOSCARSnow11

ready-set-throw a tantrum ... :angry4:

Sorry I missed it, I would have liked to have seen it.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 07:21 PM
I love how batshit crazy the bed wetters go over Sarah Palin, who's never weilded any power over them, never tried to take anything away from them, and never told them what they should eat as her ass expands.

I'm sick and tired of seeing the wookie on TV personally, but she does more to alienate people than anything else.

"Wookie"? What the heck does that mean?

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 07:25 PM
Michelle looks great. I am not sure why people have to attack her.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 07:30 PM
Michelle looks great. I am not sure why people have to attack her.
Hate by association? I personally don't understand it. She's attractive and intelligent.

ptif219
02-25-2013, 08:32 PM
Hate by association? I personally don't understand it. She's attractive and intelligent.

She is a bully and a publicity seeking pig

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 08:36 PM
She is a bully and a publicity seeking pig
Who did she bully?

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 08:43 PM
Seriously? Sinking that low?

At least I'm not calling her the "C" word...

ptif219
02-25-2013, 08:51 PM
Who did she bully?

All the school kids. The food standard at schools now can stop kids from eating food from home if Michelle says is not good enough

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/14/school-forces-preschooler-to-eat-cafeteria-lunch-because-moms-isnt-healthy-enough/

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 09:01 PM
She is the first lady. She has a soap box whether you like her message or not.

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 09:15 PM
She is the first lady. She has a soap box whether you like her message or not.

Not disagreeing at all...she's got hers and I got mine...although mine is admittedly much smaller...

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 09:18 PM
Not disagreeing at all...she's got hers and I got mine...although mine is admittedly much smaller...

I am sorry to hear that.... :shocked:

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 09:20 PM
At least I'm not calling her the "C" word...

And not responding to the question.

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 09:22 PM
And not responding to the question.

What question?

Captain Obvious
02-25-2013, 09:26 PM
All the school kids. The food standard at schools now can stop kids from eating food from home if Michelle says is not good enough

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/14/school-forces-preschooler-to-eat-cafeteria-lunch-because-moms-isnt-healthy-enough/

Are you capable of citing a source that isn't completely hack?

Honestly, it's bad enough that this source completely lacks objectivity - click it and it darkens the screen and asks you to give it your email address.

When you cite a garbage source, regardless of the truth of the matter your source is immediately discounted.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 09:27 PM
All the school kids. The food standard at schools now can stop kids from eating food from home if Michelle says is not good enough

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/14/school-forces-preschooler-to-eat-cafeteria-lunch-because-moms-isnt-healthy-enough/
Since she does not personally oversee every school lunch, perhaps it is the over zealous approach of educators?

Conley
02-25-2013, 09:31 PM
She is a bully and a publicity seeking pig

Laura Bush was in the 2002 show.

Who cares? Who takes awards shows seriously?

:happy1:

edit: Blad beat me to it. BLAAAAAAD!!!

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 09:33 PM
Since she does not personally oversee every school lunch, perhaps it is the over zealous approach of educators?

Who vote Democrat.

zelmo1234
02-25-2013, 09:38 PM
I guess that I do not get what all the fuss is about?

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 09:43 PM
I guess that I do not get what all the fuss is about?
Some prefer to let children bring lunches comprised of nothing but starch and fat and then wonder why children don't seem to learn as well as they did in the past. Some parents can't be bothered to try to teach kids eat appropriate food, much easier to let them eat junk. The schools actually have a dog in the hunt, they are rated on how much and how well they can teach children. Malnutritioned children cannot learn as much.

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 09:45 PM
Some prefer to let children bring lunches comprised of nothing but starch and fat and then wonder why children don't seem to learn as well as they did in the past. Some parents can't be bothered to try to teach kids eat appropriate food, much easier to let them eat junk. The schools actually have a dog in the hunt, they are rated on how much and how well they can teach children. Malnutritioned children cannot learn as much.

:laughing4:

Mister D
02-25-2013, 09:46 PM
Some prefer to let children bring lunches comprised of nothing but starch and fat and then wonder why children don't seem to learn as well as they did in the past. Some parents can't be bothered to try to teach kids eat appropriate food, much easier to let them eat junk. The schools actually have a dog in the hunt, they are rated on how much and how well they can teach children. Malnutritioned children cannot learn as much.

American children get plenty of calories. In London's 19th Century slums children collapsed off their stools from malnutrition. Different animal. I agree with you about parents though. IMO, the parents don't know any better themselves.

Private Pickle
02-25-2013, 09:49 PM
The schools have a dog in that hunt...they want to push their brand of governmental power at a young age...that and $1.25 at the cafeteria...

The Liberal agenda at any cost and without any type of moral or ethical foundation...Proven time and time again as in this article:



The girl’s mother — who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation — said she received a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a “healthy lunch” would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case $1.25…
“What got me so mad is, number one, don’t tell my kid I’m not packing her lunch box properly,” the girl’s mother told CJ. “I pack her lunchbox according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to watch her because she doesn’t really care for vegetables.”
When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste.
“She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of her,” her mother said. “You’re telling a 4-year-old. ‘oh. you’re lunch isn’t right,’ and she’s thinking there’s something wrong with her food.”

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 09:51 PM
American children get plenty of calories. In London's 19th Century slums children collapsed off their stools from malnutrition. Different animal. I agree with you about parents though. IMO, the parents don't know any better themselves.
Obesity in children is usually a sign of malnutrition. One does not continue to eat ad infinitum if the food is actually satifying nutrional needs. No, the body continues to demand more food because of actual starvation. It does seem counter intuitive, but it is true.

Mister D
02-25-2013, 09:53 PM
Obesity in children is usually a sign of malnutrition. One does not continue to eat ad infinitum if the food is actually satifying nutrional needs. No, the body continues to demand more food because of actual starvation. It does seem counter intuitive, but it is true.

These kids are not typically vitamin deficient. They're just fat. Believe it or not, you get plenty of vitamins from a Big Mac and fries. You just get them in a ratio to calories that is dangerous if it becomes habitual.

zelmo1234
02-25-2013, 09:54 PM
Some prefer to let children bring lunches comprised of nothing but starch and fat and then wonder why children don't seem to learn as well as they did in the past. Some parents can't be bothered to try to teach kids eat appropriate food, much easier to let them eat junk. The schools actually have a dog in the hunt, they are rated on how much and how well they can teach children. Malnutritioned children cannot learn as much.

I was talking about the first lady doing the awards show?

But to address your post if you are talking about scholl provided lunches, then the school and the government should be able to adjust those meals the way that they think is better for the child

If it a parent sent lunch, and it is not illegal, then it should be between the parents and the child and is non of the schools business.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 09:57 PM
These kids are not typically vitamin deficient. They're just fat. Believe it or not, you get plenty of vitamins from a Big Mac and fries. You just get them in a ratio to calories that is dangerous if it becomes habitual.
If the problem were only fatty foods, it wouldn't be an issue in children. Children can process fat. The problem is the high, high levels of sugars. A diet comprised of sugary sodas (more than one a day), sweet treats, plus fats and carbs creates an obese child.

Conley
02-25-2013, 09:59 PM
These kids are not typically vitamin deficient. They're just fat. Believe it or not, you get plenty of vitamins from a Big Mac and fries. You just get them in a ratio to calories that is dangerous if it becomes habitual.

This is true...everything is enriched here, even the bun with Vitamin D. It's crap food but people live off it. People here in America are fat because they eat too much, not because of any vitamin or mineral deficiency.

Conley
02-25-2013, 10:00 PM
If the problem were only fatty foods, it wouldn't be an issue in children. Children can process fat. The problem is the high, high levels of sugars. A diet comprised of sugary sodas (more than one a day), sweet treats, plus fats and carbs creates an obese child.

Sure they eat all kinds of stuff but it gets stored as fat. Generally speaking I agree that refined carbs and sugar are way worse than fat in a diet.

zelmo1234
02-25-2013, 10:01 PM
If the problem were only fatty foods, it wouldn't be an issue in children. Children can process fat. The problem is the high, high levels of sugars. A diet comprised of sugary sodas (more than one a day), sweet treats, plus fats and carbs creates an obese child.

And that is still not the schools business

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 10:04 PM
This is true...everything is enriched here, even the bun with Vitamin D. It's crap food but people live off it. People here in America are fat because they eat too much, not because of any vitamin or mineral deficiency.
The studies don't agree: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/131/1/e152.abstract

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:07 PM
If the problem were only fatty foods, it wouldn't be an issue in children. Children can process fat. The problem is the high, high levels of sugars. A diet comprised of sugary sodas (more than one a day), sweet treats, plus fats and carbs creates an obese child.

I agree that starches and sugars are a big concern. I was blessed with a very high metabolism but not all kids are. There were days when I drank 4 sodas and stayed thin. A lot fo these kids are blowing up like balloons.

Conley
02-25-2013, 10:07 PM
The studies don't agree: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/131/1/e152.abstract

Very interesting, thanks I'll take a look. At first glance it appears I was very wrong about that. It's always fun to learn new things on here and I sure as heck didn't expect it to be in a thread about the Oscars :laugh:

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:11 PM
The studies don't agree: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/131/1/e152.abstract

I suspect I was D deficient (imagine that! Mister D deficient in D! :shocked:) last winter. I generally don;t drink milk and I cur back on eggs, The result was vitamin deficiency. D is hard to get and when you in temperate climates you have to consider it. I'm a runner so I probably picked up on it faster than your average person would. I was getting aches and pains but I was running less. It didn't make sense. I popped a supplement a friend at work gave me and it went a away. This year I drank skim milk and and took a supplement here and there.

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 10:13 PM
You can get good D3 supplements.

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:17 PM
You can get good D3 supplements.

I've been bumming them off people at work. :grin: It's naturally occurring in eggs but I only eat eggs on the weekends. I just don't get enough sun and the rays are weak in NJ after Oct.

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 10:20 PM
I throw a raw egg in my protein powder drink after I work out.

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:20 PM
I throw a raw egg in my protein powder drink after I work out.

Raw whites still make me gag.

Captain Obvious
02-25-2013, 10:22 PM
Raw whites still make me gag.

Same for my wife.

... uh

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 10:25 PM
Raw whites still make me gag.


Blended up with whey powder and milk and you never know that it is there.

Peter1469
02-25-2013, 10:26 PM
Same for my wife.

... uh

Well, don't tell her about my blender solution. :shocked:

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 10:32 PM
I've been bumming them off people at work. :grin: It's naturally occurring in eggs but I only eat eggs on the weekends. I just don't get enough sun and the rays are weak in NJ after Oct.
Lack of vitamin D is linked to auto immune diseases such a rhumatoid arthritis and MS.

Captain Obvious
02-25-2013, 10:34 PM
D - didn't you get the gout from eating too much beans a while back?

Adelaide
02-25-2013, 10:38 PM
It's also important that you're eating the right combination of foods. For example, spinach is a great source of iron, but you need to balance it with vitamin C or your body has a hard time absorbing the iron, (I was deficient for a long time, so I know a ridiculous amount about how to get more sources of iron into my diet). Getting the right combination is hard for anyone, but I think it would be even more impossible if your diet consists of take out food, junk food, and microwaveable food.

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:40 PM
Lack of vitamin D is linked to auto immune diseases such a rhumatoid arthritis and MS.


D - didn't you get the gout from eating too much beans a while back?

Thank you both. That explains a lot.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 10:41 PM
D - didn't you get the gout from eating too much beans a while back?

Diets that are high in purines and high in protien have long been suspected of causing an increased risk of gout, a type of arthritis caused by high levels of uric acid in the body. Excessive uric acid can form crystals in the joints, causing pain and inflammation. The following don't add to a higher risk of gout: peas, beans, mushrooms, cauliflower, spinach. Ultimately, diets shown to be connected to gout are the same kinds of diet linked to cardiovascular disease.

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:44 PM
Diets that are high in purines and high in protien have long been suspected of causing an increased risk of gout, a type of arthritis caused by high levels of uric acid in the body. Excessive uric acid can form crystals in the joints, causing pain and inflammation. The following don't add to a higher risk of gout: peas, beans, mushrooms, cauliflower, spinach. Ultimately, diets shown to be connected to gout are the same kinds of diet linked to cardiovascular disease.

I eat a lot of protein but I did cut down on the beans after the gout flareup. I wonder if it may have been linked to Vitamin D though?

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:44 PM
It's also important that you're eating the right combination of foods. For example, spinach is a great source of iron, but you need to balance it with vitamin C or your body has a hard time absorbing the iron, (I was deficient for a long time, so I know a ridiculous amount about how to get more sources of iron into my diet). Getting the right combination is hard for anyone, but I think it would be even more impossible if your diet consists of take out food, junk food, and microwaveable food.

Good points. Phosphorous makes calcium easier to absorb if I remember correctly.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 10:46 PM
It's also important that you're eating the right combination of foods. For example, spinach is a great source of iron, but you need to balance it with vitamin C or your body has a hard time absorbing the iron, (I was deficient for a long time, so I know a ridiculous amount about how to get more sources of iron into my diet). Getting the right combination is hard for anyone, but I think it would be even more impossible if your diet consists of take out food, junk food, and microwaveable food.\
I would have thanked your post, but for some reason it was not available. So thanks!

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:47 PM
It disappears periodically.

Adelaide
02-25-2013, 10:52 PM
Good points. Phosphorous makes calcium easier to absorb if I remember correctly.

Really, unless you are a nutritionist or a client of one, it's impossible to always get the right combinations in the right amounts. You can educate yourself, and definitely improve your health, but it's very hard to really fully understand how the body works when it comes to diet and nutrition. You also have to learn to know your own body - I am not lactose intolerant, but too much dairy in my diet makes me feel really sick. Same thing with breads; unless it's whole grain or 7 grain, my body doesn't react well to it. Since I do not eat meat other than chicken (and rarely) I have to find a way to supplement those.

And I outright refuse to take multivitamins or pill form supplements because it's so easy to fuck up your body with those and to overcompensate. Ingesting too much of a vitamin or mineral can be just as dangerous as having a deficiency.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 10:54 PM
It disappears periodically.

It might be too much meat! Gout was always regarded as the rich man's disease, i.e. back in the day of Henry the VIII. What did Henry eat in abundence more than most people ate in abundence?

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:56 PM
It might be too much meat! Gout was always regarded as the rich man's disease, i.e. back in the day of Henry the VIII. What did Henry eat in abundence that most people did eat in abundence?

I cut down on that too but my diet has for years now been primarily vegetables and lean meat. I eat grains for running but if I wasn't a runner I would eat less of them.

On the other hand, my father had a case of gout at my age and it never came back.

Dr. Who
02-25-2013, 10:56 PM
It disappears periodically.


It might be too much meat! Gout was always regarded as the rich man's disease, i.e. back in the day of Henry the VIII. What did Henry eat in abundence more than most people ate in abundance?

Mister D
02-25-2013, 10:57 PM
Really, unless you are a nutritionist or a client of one, it's impossible to always get the right combinations in the right amounts. You can educate yourself, and definitely improve your health, but it's very hard to really fully understand how the body works when it comes to diet and nutrition. You also have to learn to know your own body - I am not lactose intolerant, but too much dairy in my diet makes me feel really sick. Same thing with breads; unless it's whole grain or 7 grain, my body doesn't react well to it. Since I do not eat meat other than chicken (and rarely) I have to find a way to supplement those.

And I outright refuse to take multivitamins or pill form supplements because it's so easy to fuck up your body with those and to overcompensate. Ingesting too much of a vitamin or mineral can be just as dangerous as having a deficiency.

True! I am careful with the D supplements because I know it's not water soluble and thus toxic if you take too much. Every few days and only in the winter when the sunlight is too weak to have an effect.

Adelaide
02-25-2013, 11:02 PM
I cut down on that too but my diet has for years now been primarily vegetables and lean meat. I eat grains for running but if I wasn't a runner I would eat less of them.

On the other hand, my father had a case of gout at my age and it never came back.

Did you have blood tests done?

If you're a runner, you could have/have had footstrike hemolysis. It is a form of hemolytic anemia found in runners where the red blood cells in your lower legs get broken down by the impact. Hemolytic anemia is a cause of gout.

At any rate, the above is an interesting little fact I learned on the job.

Peter1469
02-26-2013, 07:21 AM
Really, unless you are a nutritionist or a client of one, it's impossible to always get the right combinations in the right amounts. You can educate yourself, and definitely improve your health, but it's very hard to really fully understand how the body works when it comes to diet and nutrition. You also have to learn to know your own body - I am not lactose intolerant, but too much dairy in my diet makes me feel really sick. Same thing with breads; unless it's whole grain or 7 grain, my body doesn't react well to it. Since I do not eat meat other than chicken (and rarely) I have to find a way to supplement those.

And I outright refuse to take multivitamins or pill form supplements because it's so easy to fuck up your body with those and to overcompensate. Ingesting too much of a vitamin or mineral can be just as dangerous as having a deficiency.

Are the various blood tests of vitamin levels getting any more accurate?

Cigar
02-26-2013, 07:47 AM
Please make sure you study this thread the next time you boys start chastising anyone of thread hijacking :grin:

Anyway ... to get back on subject ...

For those of you who were bitching and whining about why the First Lady was on the show ... eat this ... :laugh:


It was Harvey Weinstein's daughter's idea.

According to Academy president Hawk Koch, the plan came from Weinstein and his daughter, Lily. Koch and Oscar show producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron loved the idea. Zadan tells The Hollywood Reporter (http://thr.com) that when it was pitched to the first lady, her response was: "Yes, I think it's a great idea. We watch movies all the time at the White House. Let's do it."


So, two weeks ago, Koch and the producers borrowed Disney's jet for a flight to D.C. They told their colleagues, though, that they had to go to New York for the day. "The planning of it was like Argo -- it was a CIA mission, it was so complicated," Zadan says. "We didn't even want anyone to know where we were going."
Once they arrived, they joined up with Weinstein and his daughter and then they all met with members of the first lady's staff to hammer out the details. The staff took them through the available White House rooms so they could select one for the broadcast. They were asked whether the Obama should appear alone or with a group, and the producers suggested having members of the military join in.


With the White House aboard, Zadan and Meron then approached Jack Nicholson, who had starred in their 2007 film The Bucket List. "We said: 'We have this proposition for you. How would you like to present best picture with Michelle Obama?' " Zadan says. Nicholson immediately signed on.


The Obama appearance was treated like a state secret, known to only a few of those working on the show. It was intentionally kept off the show's run sheets, so it wouldn't leak. On the Friday before the Oscars, the Academy issued a release announcing that Nicholson and Dustin Hoffman would be serving as presenters. The announcement included a statement from Zadan and Meron that said, "Their participation in this year's Oscars completes a list of presenters and performers that truly represents that great breadth and depth of acting talent in film today."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/02/michelle_obama_harvey_weinstein_split_h_2013.jpg

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michelle-obama-at-oscars-harvey-424146

Mister D
02-26-2013, 08:41 AM
Did you have blood tests done?

If you're a runner, you could have/have had footstrike hemolysis. It is a form of hemolytic anemia found in runners where the red blood cells in your lower legs get broken down by the impact. Hemolytic anemia is a cause of gout.

At any rate, the above is an interesting little fact I learned on the job.

That's is very interesting. It was weird though because it was getting cold and I was actually running less. I had a blood test and the doc said there wasn't any problem with uric acid. The anti-inflammatory meds he gave me cleared it up in a few days. Haven't had an issue since praise God.

ptif219
02-26-2013, 12:30 PM
Are you capable of citing a source that isn't completely hack?

Honestly, it's bad enough that this source completely lacks objectivity - click it and it darkens the screen and asks you to give it your email address.

When you cite a garbage source, regardless of the truth of the matter your source is immediately discounted.

It was a national news story. You can not prove it wrong so you complain about the source. Shows me the article is right on

ptif219
02-26-2013, 12:34 PM
Since she does not personally oversee every school lunch, perhaps it is the over zealous approach of educators?

Would not have happened with out her

http://townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2012/09/23/complaints_mount_against_michelle_obamas_new_lunch _menu

bladimz
02-26-2013, 01:13 PM
Would not have happened with out her

http://townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2012/09/23/complaints_mount_against_michelle_obamas_new_lunch _menu
Well, this is America after all. Each child has the right to obesity.

Seriously. Does a student have the right to opt-out of the "mandated lunch menu", and bring their own lunches from home? It would make sense that they do.

Cigar
02-26-2013, 01:15 PM
Well, this is America after all. Each child has the right to obesity.

Seriously. Does a student have the right to opt-out of the "mandated lunch menu", and bring their own lunches from home? It would make sense that they do.

If people want to feed their brats a steady diet of Twinkies ... go ahead ...

Peter1469
02-26-2013, 02:03 PM
As the US starts to accept the costs of health care as a public duty, then food choices ought to become a public responsibility as well.

Dr. Who
02-26-2013, 08:00 PM
Well, this is America after all. Each child has the right to obesity.

Seriously. Does a student have the right to opt-out of the "mandated lunch menu", and bring their own lunches from home? It would make sense that they do.
There have been cases of parents accused of child abuse, for feeding their children unhealthy foods and in large quantities simply because the child demands it. Keeping in mind that it is the duty of the parent to provide the appropriate necessities of life to their child, the parent should be able to ensure that the child receives adequate nutrition and not cave in because the child prefers cookies to salad. If society is going to have to deal with the results of large scale nutritional deficiencies in children, it is not hard to see why school lunches might be a good place to make a difference. If a high fructose corn syrup and high fat diet is a guarantee for coronary disease and early death, what's the difference between that and putting a touch of poison in your kid's cereal? Is laziness or indifference to the health of your child morally superior to being homicidal? Is negligent homicide more forgivable than premeditated homicide? It all comes out the same in the end.

The concept that any child will perpetually starve themselves because they can't have their favorite foods for lunch is silly. Eventually they will tire of being hungry and eat what is put in front of them.

Mister D
02-26-2013, 08:15 PM
Honestly, it might not be a bad idea to have a child shamed into eating properly. Oh, ease up. I know social stigma is taboo to you moderns. Just a thought.

Dr. Who
02-26-2013, 08:28 PM
Honestly, it might not be a bad idea to have a child shamed into eating properly. Oh, ease up. I know social stigma is taboo to you moderns. Just a thought.
Imposing shame may be a useful tactic for adults whose sense of self is already formed, but shaming children can predispose them to having a poor opinion of themselves that they carry into adulthood. In the case of shaming them over weight issues, they are more likely to eat more, not less of the offending foods - but just do it surreptitiously. They become closet eaters. It is much better to educate them about appropriate eating habits, portion size and snacking on foods that fill the belly without damaging the body. The habit of eating fruit and vegetables needs to be instilled early. My mother came from a farm, so after school snacks in our house tended to be raw carrots, oranges, apples, celery and picking at whatever vegetables were being prepared for dinner. If she was in a really good mood you got a cookie! My whole family tends to be on the thin side and most of us don't really care for dessert.

Mister D
02-26-2013, 08:41 PM
Imposing shame may be a useful tactic for adults whose sense of self is already formed, but shaming children can predispose them to having a poor opinion of themselves that they carry into adulthood. In the case of shaming them over weight issues, they are more likely to eat more, not less of the offending foods - but just do it surreptitiously. They become closet eaters. It is much better to educate them about appropriate eating habits, portion size and snacking on foods that fill the belly without damaging the body. The habit of eating fruit and vegetables needs to be instilled early. My mother came from a farm, so after school snacks in our house tended to be raw carrots, oranges, apples, celery and picking at whatever vegetables were being prepared for dinner. If she was in a really good mood you got a cookie! My whole family tends to be on the thin side and most of us don't really care for dessert.

You don't want a glutton "self" forming. They should have a poor image of themselves in that situation. I don't think it's such a great idea to pat every kid on the back and pretending emerging character flaws are not precisely that.

Dr. Who
02-26-2013, 09:05 PM
You don't want a glutton "self" forming. They should have a poor image of themselves in that situation. I don't think it's such a great idea to pat every kid on the back and pretending emerging character flaws are not precisely that.
Most kids are not natural born gluttons - they take their lead from the parents. Unfortunately high sucrose, high fat foods actually cause people to eat more, because the body is not getting what it needs. The vast majority of children simply need redirection.

Mister D
02-26-2013, 09:14 PM
Most kids are not natural born gluttons - they take their lead from the parents. Unfortunately high sucrose, high fat foods actually cause people to eat more, because the body is not getting what it needs. The vast majority of children simply need redirection.

Just some thoughts. I'm no expert on chillun'.

I happen to think that the fact that we tend to frown on social stigma has had the expected consequences from divorce, to bastardy, to little fatties who fill up on junk food and self-esteem.

Peter1469
02-26-2013, 09:27 PM
It is fructose, especially in the form of HFCS that is a big danger in the sugar world.

Mister D
02-26-2013, 09:37 PM
It is fructose, especially in the form of HFCS that is a big danger in the sugar world.

It's that people tend to eat so damn much of it.

Dr. Who
02-26-2013, 09:51 PM
It is fructose, especially in the form of HFCS that is a big danger in the sugar world.
And it is ubiquitous in junk food. It is also found in all of the pre-packaged "lunchables" commercially advertised to parents as substitutes for healthy snacks and proper lunches for kiddies, along with the cheezies, candy bars, soft drinks and all of the other garbage that parents acquiesce to put into their children's lunches even though I suspect many know it is not appropriate. Gee, why are kids in America become increasingly obese? These poor kids are being poisoned by the negligent attitude of their parents. Laziness is the problem. People can't be bothered making a proper lunch or dinner for their kids or for themselves for that matter. They can't cook, don't want to learn and are content to buy anything that can be heated up in the microwave. IMO, if you're not prepared to treat children like the precious life that they are, don't have them.

Chris
02-26-2013, 11:20 PM
Please make sure you study this thread the next time you boys start chastising anyone of thread hijacking :grin:

Anyway ... to get back on subject ...

For those of you who were bitching and whining about why the First Lady was on the show ... eat this ... :laugh:


It was Harvey Weinstein's daughter's idea.

According to Academy president Hawk Koch, the plan came from Weinstein and his daughter, Lily. Koch and Oscar show producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron loved the idea. Zadan tells The Hollywood Reporter (http://thr.com) that when it was pitched to the first lady, her response was: "Yes, I think it's a great idea. We watch movies all the time at the White House. Let's do it."


So, two weeks ago, Koch and the producers borrowed Disney's jet for a flight to D.C. They told their colleagues, though, that they had to go to New York for the day. "The planning of it was like Argo -- it was a CIA mission, it was so complicated," Zadan says. "We didn't even want anyone to know where we were going."
Once they arrived, they joined up with Weinstein and his daughter and then they all met with members of the first lady's staff to hammer out the details. The staff took them through the available White House rooms so they could select one for the broadcast. They were asked whether the Obama should appear alone or with a group, and the producers suggested having members of the military join in.


With the White House aboard, Zadan and Meron then approached Jack Nicholson, who had starred in their 2007 film The Bucket List. "We said: 'We have this proposition for you. How would you like to present best picture with Michelle Obama?' " Zadan says. Nicholson immediately signed on.


The Obama appearance was treated like a state secret, known to only a few of those working on the show. It was intentionally kept off the show's run sheets, so it wouldn't leak. On the Friday before the Oscars, the Academy issued a release announcing that Nicholson and Dustin Hoffman would be serving as presenters. The announcement included a statement from Zadan and Meron that said, "Their participation in this year's Oscars completes a list of presenters and performers that truly represents that great breadth and depth of acting talent in film today."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/02/michelle_obama_harvey_weinstein_split_h_2013.jpg

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michelle-obama-at-oscars-harvey-424146

That hair looks better. Those bangs, ugh!

BTW, the Iranian News Agency didn't like it at all. See if you can figure out why:

http://i.snag.gy/YvGwu.jpg

Forrest
02-27-2013, 07:03 AM
Public shaming of fatties would be useful. Not PC but who gives a damn?

ptif219
02-27-2013, 05:55 PM
If people want to feed their brats a steady diet of Twinkies ... go ahead ...

Wrong read the article. It was a turkey and cheese sandwich

Pete7469
02-28-2013, 12:42 AM
Wanna make a bed wetter go batshit? Mock the wookie...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=T1iRdUwnFWo

It's too bad Michelle Malkin didn't stuff a sofa seat into the back of her pants to ridicule the First Sasquatch's enormous ass.

Private Pickle
02-28-2013, 01:52 AM
Public shaming of fatties would be useful. Not PC but who gives a damn?

The Constitution.