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Cigar
02-28-2013, 12:51 PM
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From Legend to Laughing Stock: Bob Woodward Cites Bogus 'Threat,' Calls Obama 'Nixonian'Published at the Politico site, this obsequious report (the writers also backed Woodward's view on Obama as bad guy in the sequester debate) drew wide mockery on the Web last night, even from some on the right. The "threat" appeared no different from someone simply warning another that they might be embarrassed if they continue with their current line of action or thinking. This was it in its entirety: "I think you will regret staking out that claim.”

Dan Froomkin calls the whole affair in a tweet: "Bob Woodward's Mad Hatter tea party with Allen and Vandehei:...All of them puffed up and delusional." A writer at Atlantic Wire observed: "We hope Woodward never gets an email in ALL CAPS." Even the Daily Caller admits they got played by Woodward.

As for Woodward charging that Obama was becoming Nixonian. I guess except for ordering multiple break-ins, paying hush money, suggesting that a think-tank's office get firebombed, destroying evidence and more.

Meanwhile, we are waiting for Bob to call a press conference and declare either 1) "I am not a kook" or 2) "You won't have Woodward to kick around anymore" or maybe 3) "Follow the dummy." (Should he be known henceforth as Bwah Woodward?) Or, a la The Godfather, he's petrified that he will wake up tomorrow and find in his bed a horse's...ass.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/173129/legend-laughing-stock-bob-woodward-cites-bogus-threat-calls-obama-nixonian#

Conservatives Regret Taking Woodward’s ‘Threat’ Story Seriously
Now that the correspondence between Bob Woodward and the White House has been revealed (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/exclusive-the-woodward-sperling-emails-revealed-88226.html?hp=t2_3) as tame and cordial, conservative commentators are reacting with disappointment to the veteran journalist's claim that he was threatened over his sequestration reporting (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bob-woodward-obamas-sequester-deal-changer/2013/02/22/c0b65b5e-7ce1-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story.html).


Politico on Thursday posted the emails (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/exclusive-the-woodward-sperling-emails-revealed-88226.html?hp=t2_3) between Woodward and White House economic adviser Gene Sperling, who told Woodward, "as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim."


"Looks like we were played," The Daily Caller's Matt Lewis wrote (http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-trolled-us-and-we-got-played/) Thursday morning.


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/conservatives-regret-taking-woodwards-threat-story-seriously?ref=fpa

Exclusive: The Woodward, Sperling emails revealed

From Gene Sperling to Bob Woodward on Feb. 22, 2013

Bob:

I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today. My bad. I do understand your problems with a couple of our statements in the fall — but feel on the other hand that you focus on a few specific trees that gives a very wrong perception of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here.

But I do truly believe you should rethink your comment about saying saying that Potus asking for revenues is moving the goal post. I know you may not believe this, but as a friend, I think you will regret staking out that claim. The idea that the sequester was to force both sides to go back to try at a big or grand barain with a mix of entitlements and revenues (even if there were serious disagreements on composition) was part of the DNA of the thing from the start. It was an accepted part of the understanding — from the start. Really. It was assumed by the Rs on the Supercommittee that came right after: it was assumed in the November-December 2012 negotiations. There may have been big disagreements over rates and ratios — but that it was supposed to be replaced by entitlements and revenues of some form is not controversial.

(Indeed, the discretionary savings amount from the Boehner-Obama negotiations were locked in in BCA: the sequester was just designed to force all back to table on entitlements and revenues.)

I agree there are more than one side to our first disagreement, but again think this latter issue is diffferent. Not out to argue and argue on this latter point. Just my sincere advice. Your call obviously.

My apologies again for raising my voice on the call with you. Feel bad about that and truly apologize.

Gene




From Woodward to Sperling on Feb. 23, 2013

Gene: You do not ever have to apologize to me. You get wound up because you are making your points and you believe them. This is all part of a serious discussion. I for one welcome a little heat; there should more given the importance. I also welcome your personal advice. I am listening. I know you lived all this. My partial advantage is that I talked extensively with all involved. I am traveling and will try to reach you after 3 pm today. Best, Bob

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/exclusive-the-woodward-sperling-emails-revealed-88226.html#ixzz2MCqi37Wv

nic34
02-28-2013, 12:55 PM
Used to like Woodward, but the last time I saw him on Morning Joe, he did not impress, seems he should be retiring soon...

Cigar
02-28-2013, 12:58 PM
Used to like Woodward, but the last time I saw him on Morning Joe, he did not impress, seems he should be retiring soon...

It's looking like it's not going to be a good decade for Republicans :grin:

Mainecoons
02-28-2013, 01:09 PM
http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward%27s+Not+Alo ne+-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received+White+Ho use+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0

Who do you trust, Woodward or this gang of thugs in the White House?

That's a no brainer for me.

Chris
02-28-2013, 01:14 PM
Says nothing about Woodward's uncovering the fact it was the Whitehouse that came up with the idea of the sequester. Is that what you partisans don't like?

patrickt
02-28-2013, 01:16 PM
http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward's+Not+Alone +-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received+White+Ho use+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0

Who do you trust, Woodward or this gang of thugs in the White House?

That's a no brainer for me.

The answer is obvious except to the no brainers. I don't trust this administration to tell the truth on anything. Next Cigar will tell us that President Obama had nothing to do with sequester.

Chris
02-28-2013, 01:27 PM
Obama was for it before he was against it.

Then again he was against raising the debt ceiling before he was for it.

That, I think, is what he calls a balanced approach.

Cigar
02-28-2013, 01:28 PM
Looks like Obama's Plan is working to me ...

http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/EaganT/2013/EaganT20130228_low.jpg

Chris
02-28-2013, 01:31 PM
Looks like Obama's Plan is working to me ...

I have no doubt the sequester will work as he planned despite his now being against it.

Peter1469
02-28-2013, 01:37 PM
We see the DNC talking points are to attack Woodward. Most of the MSM and their fellow travelers here are on message; but there are cracks in the MSM- some reporters are waking up and reporting real news. Obama may get himself impeached yet.

Cigar
02-28-2013, 01:41 PM
We see the DNC talking points are to attack Woodward. Most of the MSM and their fellow travelers here are on message; but there are cracks in the MSM- some reporters are waking up and reporting real news. Obama may get himself impeached yet.

Keep Hope Alive ... :laugh:

Peter1469
02-28-2013, 01:56 PM
More like just give the man the rope and he will hang himself with it.

Obama certain is making history with his actions. Nobody else could get away with it.

nic34
02-28-2013, 01:58 PM
Click your heels 3 times and keep wishing....:teapot:

Peter1469
02-28-2013, 02:00 PM
You are likely correct. The "news" media has his back.

Cigar
02-28-2013, 02:04 PM
More like just give the man the rope and he will hang himself with it.

Obama certain is making history with his actions. Nobody else could get away with it.

Obama is on a roll ... chalking up victory after victory over obstructionist GOP:

Fiscal Cliff Taxes, Debt Ceiling, Hagel, VAWA .... Dow @ All Time High ... Corporations making Record Profits

WTF do you want him to do ... Cure Cancer :grin:

Chris
02-28-2013, 02:10 PM
Obama is on a roll ... chalking up victory after victory over obstructionist GOP:

Fiscal Cliff Taxes, Debt Ceiling, Hagel, VAWA .... Dow @ All Time High ... Corporations making Record Profits

WTF do you want him to do ... Cure Cancer :grin:

I agree, he's making progress with crony capitalism!

killianr1
02-28-2013, 04:27 PM
Let's use some liberal logic here.

If Woodward felt threatened, he was threatened. Right? So no matter how you minimize the email, he felt threatened. Therefore it is a threat.

Chris
02-28-2013, 04:33 PM
Let's use some liberal logic here.

If Woodward felt threatened, he was threatened. Right? So no matter how you minimize the email, he felt threatened. Therefore it is a threat.

And thus it must have been racist.

nic34
02-28-2013, 04:38 PM
Grounds for Impeachment if there EVER was!!!! :tinfoil:

Chris
02-28-2013, 04:48 PM
Of Woodward? :tongue:

hanger4
02-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Do ya reckon Lanny Davis (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/28/former-clinton-aide-obama-wh-threatened-my-paper-too/)


and this reporter from USA-Today are lying ?? (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/28/usa-today-reporter-i-know-more-than-a-few-reporters-whove-gotten-white-house-e-mails-like-the-one-woodward-got/)


and Ron Fournier of the National Journal ?? (http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/28/national-journal-chief-a-senior-wh-official-got-so-belligerent-with-me-i-had-to-drop-him-as-a-source/)

Mainecoons
02-28-2013, 05:56 PM
Oh sure, everyone is lying but Obama and his henchmen. Yep.

:rofl:

Adelaide
02-28-2013, 06:18 PM
As I have posted elsewhere, I've enjoyed Woodward's books on the Bush administration. I found them fair and objective. I'm inclined to believe him over an administration that has lied before. But all administrations lie... so, that's not saying much.

Chris
02-28-2013, 07:03 PM
As I have posted elsewhere, I've enjoyed Woodward's books on the Bush administration. I found them fair and objective. I'm inclined to believe him over an administration that has lied before. But all administrations lie... so, that's not saying much.

It says don't trust the b@$+@^ds.

Adelaide
02-28-2013, 07:05 PM
It says don't trust the b@$+@^ds.

Well, yeah. Majority of politicians are corrupt on some level.

Chris
02-28-2013, 07:37 PM
Well, yeah. Majority of politicians are corrupt on some level.

O'Rourke put out a book before the previous election down here entitle Don't Vote, It Just Encourages the Bastards. (He's the only funny libertarian I know.)

Cigar
03-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Bob Woodward To Hannity: I Never Called WH Email A 'Threat,'Bob Woodward set about trying to defend himself on Thursday night from the widespread derision that has greeted his account of his hostile exchange with White House economic adviser Gene Sperling.

Woodward spoke to his own newspaper, the Washington Post, and appeared on Sean Hannity's Fox News show to discuss the now infamous emails between himself and Sperling. On Wednesday, Woodward set the media world chattering when he told Wolf Blitzer that Sperling's email —which said, in part, that, "as a friend," he thought Woodward would "regret" a hotly contested claim he was making about the Obama administration's handling of the budget sequester — had made him "very uncomfortable." He did not dispute Blitzer's comment that he had been "threatened" by Sperling. Nor did he quarrel with the Politico editors who interviewed him and wrote, "Woodward clear he saw it as a veiled threat."

When the emails were released in full by Politico on Thursday, though, their cordial tone angered many journalists, who thought Woodward had mischaracterized the nature of the exchange.


Critics also noted the chumminess between Woodward and Hannity. After the Fox News host criticized the press for not looking into President Obama's associations with Bill Ayers, Woodward said, "I agree with that." He also lavished praise on Hannity, saying, "You let me say what I want. You dig into things. You — there is no bleep-out button.”

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-hannity-white-house-threat_n_2785739.html

If there is any upside to Bob Woodard's backpedaling on Sean Hannity of all shows is that it exposes how many "mainstream" journalists are nothing more than shills for the right wing.

As noted in this review of Bob Woodard's 2012 Book, the Price of Politics, Woodard's work on President Obama offered no new information and, if anything, told more about Woodard's right wing bias, then the President:

http://www.newrepublic.com/book/review/bob-woodward-price-of-politics


Busted ... again! :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Cigar
03-01-2013, 11:36 AM
Axelrod CALLS OUT Woodward On White House Email
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jgL4F7bGhM&feature=player_embedded

Former White House adviser and current MSNBC analyst David Axelrod on Friday pressed Bob Woodward on whether he really felt threatened by Obama administration official Gene Sperling. "The headline in the Washington Post, your newspaper, was Woodward says that he was threatened by the White House," Axelrod said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"But I never have. Come on. You know that. No," Woodward said.(The headline on the Washington Post actually read: "Woodward vs. White House: Washington at its weirdest.") "They got the impression, from what you said, that you felt you were being threatened," Axelrod continued. "And you just read to the Politico one line from that email. And when the full emails came out they were as cordial as can be. His email was cordial, and your response was cordial. So if you felt threatened, why didn't you say to Gene, don't threaten me?

"No, I did not feel threatened," Woodward responded. "What I have said, David, and come on, you are making, putting words in my mouth. I said I don't think this is the way to operate. And you and I have had many discussions. You've never said to me, Oh, you're going to regret doing that, am I correct?"

"Yes, but this was a specific discussion about a specific point you had raised," Axelrod said. "It seemed like Gene was, in that email, certainly was very, very polite in the way that he pushed back on that. I'm not putting words in your mouth, Bob. It's your newspaper that said you said you were threatened."http://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/rofl.gif


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/axelrod-presses-woodward-on-whether-he-felt-threatened?ref=fpa

Chris
03-01-2013, 11:49 AM
Cigar, you post first that Woodward never said it was an attack and then you post someone calls him out for saying it was an attack. Which is it. You can't have your cake and eat ti too.

I'd read elsewhere that Woodward denied calling it an attack, the that rag politico was responsible. They, the media, should be called out.

What newspaper does Woodward own?

Peter1469
03-01-2013, 12:54 PM
Obama is on a roll ... chalking up victory after victory over obstructionist GOP:

Fiscal Cliff Taxes, Debt Ceiling, Hagel, VAWA .... Dow @ All Time High ... Corporations making Record Profits

WTF do you want him to do ... Cure Cancer :grin:

Let the legislature legislate? Not be a dictator.

To start with.

Cigar
03-04-2013, 01:33 PM
Cigar, you post first that Woodward never said it was an attack and then you post someone calls him out for saying it was an attack. Which is it. You can't have your cake and eat ti too.

I'd read elsewhere that Woodward denied calling it an attack, the that rag politico was responsible. They, the media, should be called out.

What newspaper does Woodward own?

http://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/128055_600.jpg

patrickt
03-04-2013, 02:27 PM
http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?pt=WMAL+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Woodward's+Not+Alone +-+Fmr.+Clinton+Aide+Davis+Says+He+Received+White+Ho use+Threat&id=8924&is_corp=0

Who do you trust, Woodward or this gang of thugs in the White House?

That's a no brainer for me.

Or the leg-humping shills at Politico?