Why Obama will never get my support

[Boris The Animal]

Regardless of whether he does anything right or not. The simple fact that he does not represent more than half of the citizenry of America and the fact he is diametrically opposed to anything America stands for is enough to withhold any support for this Communist. Oh, and the simple fact he is a Radical Leftwing Democrat is just icing on the cake.

[Cigar]

Geee and we were really counting on your support to close that 5 Million gap :grin:

[simpsonofpg]

I agree, I think that being able to read and understand the constituion is a key factor. He can't do either. He was educated to be a socialist and they did a good job. He doesn't know what it is like to be an American.

[snali]

How exactly did Obama violate the consitiution

[KC]

Regardless of whether he does anything right or not. The simple fact that he does not represent more than half of the citizenry of America and the fact he is diametrically opposed to anything America stands for is enough to withhold any support for this Communist. Oh, and the simple fact he is a Radical Leftwing Democrat is just icing on the cake.

If he did represent America better, would that change anything? That's an appeal to the masses. IMO that still wouldn't make what he's doing (Or what President Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, etc. did) OK.

[Adelaide]

If he did represent America better, would that change anything? That's an appeal to the masses. IMO that still wouldn't make what he's doing (Or what President Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, etc. did) OK.

Partisanship - Obama could be doing everything a Republican might do (but as a Democrat) and still we'd have people running around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming about Socialism. Their side is the only side, period.

[KC]

Partisanship - Obama could be doing everything a Republican might do (but as a Democrat) and still we'd have people running around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming about Socialism. Their side is the only side, period.

It must be really easy to see from your vantage point as a foreigner, but this is so controversial here.

[Adelaide]

It must be really easy to see from your vantage point as a foreigner, but this is so controversial here.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. How is partisanship controversial?

[KC]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. How is partisanship controversial?

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. Whether the charges leveled at President Obama are partisan or not- that's controversial.

A non-partisan approach would to be to level these exact same charges against Obama without acknowledging that Republicans are guilty of more or less the same.

[Peter1469]

How exactly did Obama violate the consitiution

For one he is tending to rule by executive regulation rather than legislative lawmaking. For another he unilaterally decides to ignore laws passed by Congress.

And, how could we forget. He is an assassin. He puts Americans on kill lists. And then kills them without due process.

[Adelaide]

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. Whether the charges leveled at President Obama are partisan or not- that's controversial.

A non-partisan approach would to be to level these exact same charges against Obama without acknowledging that Republicans are guilty of more or less the same.

Ah, gotcha. They're all the same, (and all to blame).

I didn't mean to rhyme there.

[snali]

Which laws passed by congress did Obama ignore and he does have a right to issue some executive order it is in the Constitution and the most famous american citizen that was killed without due process was the former 3rd in command of AL Qaeda which means he is a traitor and any others he killed were most likely traitors which gives him the right

[Cigar]

Regardless of whether he does anything right or not. The simple fact that he does not represent more than half of the citizenry of America and the fact he is diametrically opposed to anything America stands for is enough to withhold any support for this Communist. Oh, and the simple fact he is a Radical Leftwing Democrat is just icing on the cake.

Is Obama Running for a 3rd Term?

[Private Pickle]

Is Obama Running for a 3rd Term?

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Cigar]

Wouldn't surprise me.

You better hope not ... the three-peat would hurt. :)

[Private Pickle]

You better hope not ... the three-peat would hurt. :)

The bullets that would fly would hurt worse.

[Cigar]

The bullets that would fly would hurt worse.

Yea Yea Sure ... :rollseyes:

[Deadwood]

Regardless of whether he does anything right or not. The simple fact that he does not represent more than half of the citizenry of America and the fact he is diametrically opposed to anything America stands for is enough to withhold any support for this Communist. Oh, and the simple fact he is a Radical Leftwing Democrat is just icing on the cake.

At this point it doesn't matter much, unless he tries to amend the constitution...and I don't think even he would be that egomaniacal.

I don't reject him because he's a Democrat OR a Republican. I reject him for the same reasons I detested Bush's administration. The Patriot act and the continuing sham of the war on terror.

Like a cheap whore, America has sold off her "inalienable rights" for the false feeling of security....and is was perhaps the greatest of all Americans who said "Anyone who would surrender his freedom for the sake of security, deserves neither." Ben Franklin

I will allow it is a fine point of law, but Obama, unlike Bush, is waging war on an allied country without even officially advised congress.

The drone attacks in Pakistan are, in my lay opinion, a direct and clear violation of the law. Although the US Constitution is vague in that it divides war making powers between the executive and congress, it was allegedly resolved in 1972 with the War Powers Resolution, one of some very rare pieces of legislation with all party agreement.

That law came into affect as a result of Nixon bombing Cambodia.

Which, if you get right down to it, is not at all different than bombing Pakistan...the later being simply more selective, less jungle being assassinated, more innocents.

[snali]

The drone strikes were needed to to take out people and groups that were anti-american

[Private Pickle]

The drone strikes were needed to to take out people and groups that were anti-american

They droned the White House?

[zelmo1234]

How exactly did Obama violate the consitiution

No budget for 4 years, doesn not have his proposed budget to congress before the end of Feb.

Some of his excutive orders, such as trying to implement cap and trade policies through the EPA and regulation, rather than legislation.

He appointed 2 people with recess appointments, when the Senate was not in recess

[zelmo1234]

The drone strikes were needed to to take out people and groups that were anti-american

OH! so if I dicide that a group of gang memeber on the corner are a theat, and take them out, that would be OK?

It is a slipery slope when you toss aside the constitution, if you do not think so just look at the trouble we had getting the administration to admit that it was not leagal to use a drone against a US citizens in a coffee shop opposing no threat, just last week

[snali]

during the last administration there was still a deficit he was still negioting to avoid the squestor and drones won't be used in the US for attacking most likely surveillance and the areas that use drone strikes are areas that are unstable dominated by tribes and the government in power could not help us also thus we need drones to continue the war on terror since their are our most powerful tools also the president has a right to sign executive orders

[zelmo1234]

during the last administration there was still a deficit he was still negioting to avoid the squestor and drones won't be used in the US for attacking most likely surveillance and the areas that use drone strikes are areas that are unstable dominated by tribes and the government in power could not help us also thus we need drones to continue the war on terror since their are our most powerful tools also the president has a right to sign executive orders

He has a right to sign excutive order that implement and infoce the law, not write the law as with the EPA and immigration.

Drones survailace and use in forgien coutries in Iraq is one thing in NY is another this is violation of the 5th??? amendment Searcha nd seizure

This still leads to the budgets and financial dealings and his non recess appointments. And yes we did have deficites in the last administration they were way, way to high, and this preisdent has tripled them?

[nic34]

No budget for 4 years, doesn not have his proposed budget to congress before the end of Feb.

Some of his excutive orders, such as trying to implement cap and trade policies through the EPA and regulation, rather than legislation.

He appointed 2 people with recess appointments, when the Senate was not in recess

Sources?

None of that is unconstitutional....

[nic34]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/13/us/politics/obama-to-appeal-ruling-curbing-recess-appointments.html?_r=0

[nic34]

And, how could we forget. He is an assassin. He puts Americans on kill lists. And then kills them without due process.

Source?

Just like every president.

Part of the job.

[Boris The Animal]

Source?

Just like every president.

Part of the job.Lemme guess, you would blindly support Obama if he installed himself as dictator?

[simpsonofpg]

He represents that the takers and not the givers. I just say where he turned 2000 illegals lose from jail, I guess he needs the votes for something.

[Peter1469]

Source?

Just like every president.

Part of the job.

Which other president made a list? And let people know that he was using it?

[KC]

Which other president made a list? And let people know that he was using it?

Even if another did, it would still be unconstitutional. Constitutionality has nothing to do with precedent. The Federal government is to follow the written word of the Constitution to the tee. If they want to do something that is not specifically granted they must amend the Constitution.

[Peter1469]

true

[Humanexpedition]

Gun laws are technically unconstitutional regardless what the weapon can do and tragically we are seeing more and more of it. The worst part is people do not understand how they undercut their rights and safety abiding by them these days.

[Cigar]

I feel the same way about Voter Suppression

[Greenridgeman]

Regardless of whether he does anything right or not. The simple fact that he does not represent more than half of the citizenry of America and the fact he is diametrically opposed to anything America stands for is enough to withhold any support for this Communist. Oh, and the simple fact he is a Radical Leftwing Democrat is just icing on the cake.

I would support him in a decision to resign along with his VP.

[Private Pickle]

I feel the same way about Voter Suppression

Yeah...whether they are living or dead...no matter...

[Cigar]

Yeah...whether they are living or dead...no matter...

Mitt lost by more than 4 Million ... dead people. :rofl:

[Greenridgeman]

Which laws passed by congress did Obama ignore and he does have a right to issue some executive order it is in the Constitution and the most famous american citizen that was killed without due process was the former 3rd in command of AL Qaeda which means he is a traitor and any others he killed were most likely traitors which gives him the right


The Obama adminstration has prosecuted fewer than 100 of more than 80,000 people who lied on the form needed to buy a gun.

The Obama administration has virtually ceased prosecuting any Wall Street bankers.

Need more.

[Greenridgeman]

Is Obama Running for a 3rd Term?


Do not be surprised if Welfare Nation gives the Congress entirely back to the Democrats, and an amendment allows him to.

It is not out of the realm of possibility.

[Greenridgeman]

The bullets that would fly would hurt worse.

Unneccesary hyperbole and ammuntion for the looney left, IMNSHO.

[Greenridgeman]

The drone strikes were needed to to take out people and groups that were anti-american


Seeing he has authorization to use them withing the US, that might be justifiacation for him to drone millions of us.

[Greenridgeman]

They droned the White House?


Laugh, but wait until some enemy of the US figures out how to hack the computers that run the drones.

[Private Pickle]

Mitt lost by more than 4 Million ... dead people. :rofl:

You realize that Obama's margin of victory shrank right? It shrank so much that Obama set a new record for the biggest reduction in voters for an incumbent president. I would say his victory had less to do with him as a President and more to do with the fact that Mitt Romney was unelectable.

Who knows how many votes the Dems pandered for illegally...it very well could have been more than 4 million...much more...not to mention the suppression of votes from early ballots and the military. But that's all goodness for you cause the cool guy got elected.

ok now, back to you watching "Saved by the Bell".

[Greenridgeman]

OH! so if I dicide that a group of gang memeber on the corner are a theat, and take them out, that would be OK?

It is a slipery slope when you toss aside the constitution, if you do not think so just look at the trouble we had getting the administration to admit that it was not leagal to use a drone against a US citizens in a coffee shop opposing no threat, just last week


Gang members on the corner are Obama's friends, he will never take action against street gangs.

[Cigar]

You realize that Obama's margin of victory shrank right? It shrank so much that Obama set a new record for the biggest reduction in voters for an incumbent president. I would say his victory had less to do with him as a President and more to do with the fact that Mitt Romney was unelectable.

Who knows how many votes the Dems pandered for illegally...it very well could have been more than 4 million...much more...not to mention the suppression of votes from early ballots and the military. But that's all goodness for you cause the cool guy got elected.

ok now, back to you watching "Saved by the Bell".


Have you learned Spanish yet? :)

[Private Pickle]

Unneccesary hyperbole and ammuntion for the looney left, IMNSHO.

Meh...I could care less about the looney left or their ammunition...

[Greenridgeman]

Lemme guess, you would blindly support Obama if he installed himself as dictator?


Many would blindly support him if he molested his daughters, and blame them for being hotties.

[Cigar]

Gang members on the corner are Obama's friends, he will never take action against street gangs.

Yea if I were you I'd look for diversions also. :roflmao:

[Private Pickle]

Have you learned Spanish yet? :)

Did mommy tell you, when you asked her, that you were taking the little bus to school cause it gets there faster?

[Private Pickle]

Laugh, but wait until some enemy of the US figures out how to hack the computers that run the drones.

It's already happened. That's how Iran landed that drone they captured.

[Cigar]

Many would blindly support him if he molested his daughters, and blame them for being hotties.

:loco: This is how you know the argument is lost by the right ...

[Greenridgeman]

Meh...I could care less about the looney left or their ammunition...


I would not either if they were not running and ruining the nation.

[Greenridgeman]

:loco: This is how you know the argument is lost by the right ...


Of course Mitt was a murdering tax felon.

The election was lost because Mitt was a fool for not fighting fire with fire,

I stand by my statement too.

[nic34]

Laugh, but wait until some enemy of the US figures out how to hack the computers that run the drones.

Is that the rightys new boogieman, the drone?

What's the difference between that and an AH-64 Apache?

[Private Pickle]

I would not either is they were not running and ruining the nation.

That fact makes me care even less.

[Cigar]

Of course Mitt was a murdering tax felon.

The election was lost because Mitt was a fool for not fighting fire with fire,

I stand by my statement too.


... and what did the candidates children have to do with it?

[Private Pickle]

Is that the rightys new boogieman, the drone?

What's the difference between that and an AH-64 Apache?

Well now the difference is, you can use drones on American soil against Americans...

[Cigar]

Well now the difference is, you can use drones on American soil against Americans...


You can also use a Snipers Bullet ... far more accurate and statistically more lethal :wink:

[Private Pickle]

You can also use a Snipers Bullet ... far more accurate and statistically more lethal :wink:

Sure! Anything to piss on due process and the Constitution right?

[Cigar]

Sure! Anything to piss on due process and the Constitution right?



I didn't see you crying about Christopher Dorner

[Peter1469]

Laugh, but wait until some enemy of the US figures out how to hack the computers that run the drones.

You can block the wireless signal and then hack the actual drone. Iran has already done it.

[Private Pickle]

I didn't see you crying about Christopher Dorner

You mean the cop killer?

[Greenridgeman]

You mean the cop killer?


Freedom fighter!!!


Get with the program, this is Obamanation now.

[Private Pickle]

Freedom fighter!!!


Get with the program, this is Obamanation now.

My bad.

[Greenridgeman]

My bad.


You'll learn.....or get sent to a re-education camp sometime in the future.