Doubling Down On Failure--The Democrat Way

[Mainecoons]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/images/budget.preview.png

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/proposed-dem-budget-increases-spending-62-over-next-decade_707579.html

How could you be more out of touch than this?

[KC]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/images/budget.preview.png

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/proposed-dem-budget-increases-spending-62-over-next-decade_707579.html

How could you be more out of touch than this?

Why does the chart ignore 2008-2012?

[Kalkin]

The federal government needs to cut spending to levels below revenue and use the excess to pay off the national debt. And, yes, that means some temporary pain as we all get removed from the overbloated, unsustainable federal teat.

[Adelaide]

The federal government needs to cut spending to levels below revenue and use the excess to pay off the national debt. And, yes, that means some temporary pain as we all get removed from the overbloated, unsustainable federal teat.

There is a smart way for governmen to spend and still afford to provide luxuries (should the constituents agree on providing those luxuries); the US does not follow that model.

[Pete7469]

The federal government needs to cut spending to levels below revenue and use the excess to pay off the national debt. And, yes, that means some temporary pain as we all get removed from the overbloated, unsustainable federal teat.

I'll be happy to share some pain. As it is we're already being threatened with furloughs and haven't had a cost of living raise in 2 years, but I noticed there isn't a peep about cutting the EBT cards I see fat people using to buy steak and cheetos. If I lose %25 of my income, the lardassed "poor" people can do without some luxury items too.

I say get rid of EBT/food stamps entirely. Ration them a few pounds of flour, a pound of ground beef, a block of cheese, 5 pounds of produce, a can of chicken broth, and a gallon of milk.

[Pete7469]

There is a smart way for governmen to spend and still afford to provide luxuries (should the constituents agree on providing those luxuries); the US does not follow that model.

Public servants are paid well enough. For what is required I make a good living that provides for a family of 4. We have it a lot better than friends I have who both work and have no kids.

What pisses me off to no end are the EBT card fat asses eating snack foods at everyone else's expense.

If you get a government check of any sort, you don't deserve a lavish lifestyle. If all you do is collect a check and don't even show up to punch a clock, you don't even deserve food, unless you're actually unable through no fault of your own to get there.

[Mainecoons]

Because it is going forward from this year.

[Pete7469]

Because it is going forward from this year.

It's not as if it's trying to hide some reduced spending either, since the "stimulus" passed they've blown an extra trillion per year on exactly what? We keep hearing the bed wetters whine about infrastructure, which the "stimulus" was supposed to do with "shovel ready" jobs that the moonbat messiah used as a punch line. So after 4 years of "stimulus" level spending they haven't accomplished anything, or passed a budget. That's how they got away with 4 years of "stimulus".

They should all be in prison, right along with the "journalists" that cover for them.

[KC]

Because it is going forward from this year.

Just seems odd to include 2007 but not 2008 onward, then skip forward to 2013

[Pete7469]

Just seems odd to include 2007 but not 2008 onward, then skip forward to 2013

Since the democrooks haven't even proposed a budget since 2007, why would there be a projection of the past?

[Kalkin]

There is a smart way for governmen to spend and still afford to provide luxuries (should the constituents agree on providing those luxuries); the US does not follow that model.
Government should not provide luxuries for one citizen at the expense of another. Unless it's a socialist/communist government, that is.

[Adelaide]

Government should not provide luxuries for one citizen at the expense of another. Unless it's a socialist/communist government, that is.

You obviously missed the part where I said constituents should agree to such provisions.

[Kalkin]

You obviously missed the part where I said constituents should agree to such provisions.
All of them, or just a tyrannical majority?

[Adelaide]

All of them, or just a tyrannical majority?

Majority is usually what is required in a democracy.

[Cigar]

Wow ... a lot of Whining going on tonight ... :grin:

http://www.benzinga.com/files/crybaby.jpg#republican%20cry%20baby

[Agravan]

I'll be happy to share some pain. As it is we're already being threatened with furloughs and haven't had a cost of living raise in 2 years, but I noticed there isn't a peep about cutting the EBT cards I see fat people using to buy steak and cheetos. If I lose % of my income, the lardassed "poor" people can do without some luxury items too.

I say get rid of EBT/food stamps entirely. Ration them a few pounds of flour, a pound of ground beef, a block of cheese, 5 pounds of produce, a can of chicken broth, and a gallon of milk.


they used to do that many years ago. you would get a couple of boxes of food that you had to make last thru the month. My mom used to get it. Tell you the truth, some of that canned, shredded pork and chicken was pretty good.

[Pete7469]

they used to do that many years ago. you would get a couple of boxes of food that you had to make last thru the month. My mom used to get it. Tell you the truth, some of that canned, shredded pork and chicken was pretty good.

That, and people used to be ASHAMED to live off the efforts of others. Now these parasites like to throw it in our faces.

I sort of hope the whole system collapses. Our family can survive off our storage and what the land provides. Liberals will all starve to death in a few months. The world will be better off.

[Cigar]

That, and people used to be ASHAMED to live off the efforts of others. Now these parasites like to throw it in our faces.

I sort of hope the whole system collapses. Our family can survive off our storage and what the land provides. Liberals will all starve to death in a few months. The world will be better off.

You and Unabomber think alike :grin:

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4783503587084398&pid=1.7

[Kalkin]

Majority is usually what is required in a democracy.
True democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. I'll pass.

[Kalkin]

Wow ... a lot of Whining going on tonight ... :grin:

http://www.benzinga.com/files/crybaby.jpg#republican cry baby
Damn straight. I'm tired of all these lefties whining about cuts in government spending.

[Cigar]

Damn straight. I'm tired of all these lefties whining about cuts in government spending.



Try winning a Presidential Election :grin:

[Kalkin]

That, and people used to be ASHAMED to live off the efforts of others. Now these parasites like to throw it in our faces.
Yep. It's one thing to ask for charity, it's quite another to expect it.

[Kalkin]

Try winning a Presidential Election :grin:
I'm not running for POTUS. :)
Plus, the president doesn't control spending, that's the HOR.

[Cigar]

I'm not running for POTUS. :)
Plus, the president doesn't control spending, that's the HOR.

Come-on ... you mean you couldn't do better than these clowns?

http://madmikesamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/540-republican-candidates-president-2012.imgcache.rev1316737742071.jpg

[Pete7469]

Yep. It's one thing to ask for charity, it's quite another to expect it.

Fuck... they're demanding it now... and threatening to destroy cities if their demands aren't met.

Did you see all the threats to riot and assasinate Romney if he was elected? These "people" are beyond a mob of parasites, they're a serious liability that has to be brought back down to earth gradually through a sustained series of political defeats or a conflict too gruesome to contemplate.

[Cigar]

Fuck... they're demanding it now... and threatening to destroy cities if their demands aren't met.

Did you see all the threats to riot and assasinate Romney if he was elected? These "people" are beyond a mob of parasites, they're a serious liability that has to be brought back down to earth gradually through a sustained series of political defeats or a conflict too gruesome to contemplate.



Maybe you should think about moving ... ?

[Kalkin]

Come-on ... you mean you couldn't do better than these clowns?

http://madmikesamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/540-republican-candidates-president-2012.imgcache.rev1316737742071.jpg
Could you do better than these monsters?
1931

[Kalkin]

Fuck... they're demanding it now... and threatening to destroy cities if their demands aren't met.

Did you see all the threats to riot and assasinate Romney if he was elected? These "people" are beyond a mob of parasites, they're a serious liability that has to be brought back down to earth gradually through a sustained series of political defeats or a conflict too gruesome to contemplate.


Agreed on all counts. Cure the cancer or cut it out.

[Cigar]

Could you do better than these monsters?
1931


Winning Trumps Everything ... otherwise I would be the one on this forum crying all day. :)

[Cigar]

Agreed on all counts. Cure the cancer or cut it out.


Take the first step ... log off the internet and get to cutting.

Get back to us when your done.

[Kalkin]

Winning Trumps Everything ... otherwise I would be the one on this forum crying all day. :)
What did you win?

[Kalkin]

Take the first step ... log off the internet and get to cutting.

Get back to us when your done.
We haven't gotten to the point of cutting out the cancer yet, but that day is coming.

I don't own "done", btw. ;)

[Pete7469]

Could you do better than these monsters?
1931

The funny part about ol' stoogieboy's picture is that ALL of the people pictured are more qualified to manage anything, let alone a country, than a "man" who never managed anything.

We know everything about all of the republican candidates in the last cycle, all their recorded statements were screened for racism, their college papers poured over for spelling errors, their personal lives scrutinized for any altercation with police, their finances examined by offices full of accountants for any discrepancies, and every whore and bullshit artist was given all the airtime neccessary to impugn their character wherever possible.

The only one left was Romney, and no one really wanted him since he was a liberal too.

Yet we still have yet to see the moonbat messiah's grades, let alone his transcripts. The only previous sexual relatrionship that's had any attention was Larry Sinclair, and even I don't believe that fag. He doesn't appear to have any old friends, his family is all dead or lives in squalor in a 3rd world country without any assistance from their "kin", the guy who he actually looks like, Frank Marshal Davis and is speculated to be his actual father has never once been brought up even on Fox "News" or any other significant broadcast that is supposed to be "far right fringe".

When it comes to the moonbat messiah, no one seems to really know shit about him. Except that he's an asshole.

[Pete7469]

We haven't gotten to the point of cutting out the cancer yet, but that day is coming.

I don't own "done", btw. ;)

It's to the point where the tree has fallen on your leg. You're trapped. You either cut the shattered and pinned leg off, apply a tourniquet and crawl out of the woods or starve to death.

Neither way is going to be pleasant, but that's where we're at collectively as a nation. The government is the tree, douchebags like cigar are a broken, pinned down and useless limb.

[Cigar]

We haven't gotten to the point of cutting out the cancer yet, but that day is coming.

I don't own "done", btw. ;)

Don't worry ... you can last another 46 months.

We all survived 96 months of Bush

[Kalkin]

Don't worry ... you can last another 46 months.

We all survived 96 months of Bush
I'm not worried in the least. I can thrive within any system. I just prefer freedom.

[Cigar]

It's to the point where the tree has fallen on your leg. You're trapped. You either cut the shattered and pinned leg off, apply a tourniquet and crawl out of the woods or starve to death.

Neither way is going to be pleasant, but that's where we're at collectively as a nation. The government is the tree, douchebags like cigar are a broken, pinned down and useless limb.


Oh stop being a little cry baby ... and Man-Up

[Cigar]

I'm not worried in the least. I can thrive within any system. I just prefer freedom.


A US President has never dictated what I do on day-to-day basses or my success or lack of.

Some peoples entire world revolves around who is President or who isn't.

[Pete7469]

I'm not worried in the least. I can thrive within any system. I just prefer freedom.

I think the likes of cigar will starve to death, I'm comfortable with that. They voted for it, they deserve it.

[Alif Qadr]

I'll be happy to share some pain. As it is we're already being threatened with furloughs and haven't had a cost of living raise in 2 years, but I noticed there isn't a peep about cutting the EBT cards I see fat people using to buy steak and cheetos. If I lose % of my income, the lardassed "poor" people can do without some luxury items too.

I say get rid of EBT/food stamps entirely. Ration them a few pounds of flour, a pound of ground beef, a block of cheese, 5 pounds of produce, a can of chicken broth, and a gallon of milk.



Rationing is coming Pete! Unfortunately, those on Welfare will not be the only ones affected either. With the rising prices of crude manufacturing, as well as the ever increasing inflation, rationing will become the "theme" of existence in the States. Not to mention, war. Yes war! That is on the horizon as well.

[Alif Qadr]

It's not as if it's trying to hide some reduced spending either, since the "stimulus" passed they've blown an extra trillion per year on exactly what? We keep hearing the bed wetters whine about infrastructure, which the "stimulus" was supposed to do with "shovel ready" jobs that the moonbat messiah used as a punch line. So after 4 years of "stimulus" level spending they haven't accomplished anything, or passed a budget. That's how they got away with 4 years of "stimulus".

They should all be in prison, right along with the "journalists" that cover for them.

I A-G-R-E-E Pete

[Alif Qadr]

I sort of hope the whole system collapses. Our family can survive off our storage and what the land provides. Liberals will all starve to death in a few months. The world will be better off.

I especially like the last portion. Come to think of it, such thoughts have permeated my psyche from time to time.

[Alif Qadr]

All of them, or just a tyrannical majority?

Good question. To my recollection, Madison did discuss the tyranny of the majority.

[Alif Qadr]

Fuck... they're demanding it now... and threatening to destroy cities if their demands aren't met.

Did you see all the threats to riot and assasinate Romney if he was elected? These "people" are beyond a mob of parasites, they're a serious liability that has to be brought back down to earth gradually through a sustained series of political defeats or a conflict too gruesome to contemplate.



Let them destroy where they live. I am tired of people expecting to be treated as children, yet they claim to be adults. If they choose to live in hell-holes, so be it. Zakat is not compulsory nor is anything in life. All in Human affairs is supposed to be on a voluntary basis.

[Chris]

Thank God for the sequester, the increase was reduced by 1.5%!!!

[Peter1469]

Good question. To my recollection, Madison did discuss the tyranny of the majority.

That is why the Founders gave us a republic.

http://www.ourrepubliconline.com/Author/21

[Cigar]

The GOP would like everyone to believe the sky is falling ... Corporate America has "never" been better.

We all know who's making the money.

[zelmo1234]

The GOP would like everyone to believe the sky is falling ... Corporate America has "never" been better.

We all know who's making the money.

Yes but you refuse to admit that much of corporate american is making that money over seas. The market is a global measuring stick, and we are now nearing 3 trillion in corporate profits that are being held off shore because of stupid tax policy

Corporations are using this money to invest in oppetunities outside ot the USA because it is the only way they don't ahve to give the govenrment 35% of those already taxes profits.

The current policies have us at the high unemployment levels and they will be maintianed for the long term future if nothing in washington changes.

And just because you had a half million more people give up looking last month Cigar, does not mean that the real unemployment rate is dropping!

Next you have all of the money that the fed is pumping into the market which is proping it up by an estimated 2000 points, So reality will hit there as well.

[Peter1469]

The GOP would like everyone to believe the sky is falling ... Corporate America has "never" been better.

We all know who's making the money.

Tell that to all of the major banks- the ones that have trillions of largely worthless derivatives on the books.

[Cigar]

As someone who clients ARE Corporate America and who is persoanlly involved in each and everyone (leaving to go to Toyota plan in Indiana in about 4 hours) I know that Corporation ARE investing in America NOW!

I think YOU refuse to admit the actual JOBs Growth each and every month in America ... those are real positive number with real people working.

I think YOU refuse to admit that Housing is on the rise.

I think YOU refuse to admit that Americans are hoping the GOP stops trying fuck things up in the few days that they work.

... all this because of one Man who is in office who they don't like.

Get over it, Obama won twice. Why hurt the rest of us over the GOP disjunction. Obama has Won, and he's not running for office again. Get over it.

[Cigar]

Tell that to all of the major banks- the ones that have trillions of largely worthless derivatives on the books.

Exactly who are you blaming for their own action?

Here's a brilliant idea ... let deregulate them even more and blame the American people or worse the President of The United States, the President that came in office after the fact!

[Chris]

The GOP would like everyone to believe the sky is falling ... Corporate America has "never" been better.

We all know who's making the money.

Liberals would like to perfect man to where even the sky is not the limit. But man cannot be perfected.

[Chris]

Exactly who are you blaming for their own action?

Here's a brilliant idea ... let deregulate them even more and blame the American people or worse the President of The United States, the President that came in office after the fact!

They weren't deregulated to begin with. The regulators simply failed.

[Cigar]

They weren't deregulated to begin with. The regulators simply failed.

I was just watching CNBC Market Analysys, and every analist to an Man or a Women agree …

The Economy IS getting better
Corpreate Qualrterly Earning and Profit ARE better than ever.
Private Sector Growth IS on a stedy rise.
Consumer Spending IS continuing to rise.

… and some will say dismiss this and say all this wealth is being kept over seas. Well I say, any day you want to support a LEGISATION preventing that, is fine with me.

The FACT is, dispite ALL The GOPs effort, The US Economy is getting better without any help from The Republicans Party.

As much as “politicians” want to Cut, Slash and Destroy, the Middle Class … the real Economic Experts all agree, we can’t cut your way out of the 2008 debacle.


~ Later .... going to a Toyota Plant today and back to Boeing tomorrow. Both are BOOMING, and I'm going to get some of that CASH!

So I say ... let the Gloom and Doomers stick their head up their ass as cry the sky is falling all they want. Because I'm speeding pass them in the passing lane, saying C-Yea Sports.

Have a nice weekend. :)

[Mainecoons]

Yes, we all do know who is making the money with Obama in office. The one percent. Meanwhile, the rest lose their full time jobs, see their incomes stagnant or declining, see their meager savings earning nothing and evaporating because of the inflation Obama's corrupt government is hiding, and see the basics of living skyrocketing because of Obama's policies.

And Cigar is proud of this record of "accomplishment" apparently.

Just confirms my belief that you, Cigar, are a little slimebag like Barack Obama.

[Chris]

I was just watching CNBC Market Analysys, and every analist to an Man or a Women agree …

The Economy IS getting better
Corpreate Qualrterly Earning and Profit ARE better than ever.
Private Sector Growth IS on a stedy rise.
Consumer Spending IS continuing to rise.

… and some will say dismiss this and say all this wealth is being kept over seas. Well I say, any day you want to support a LEGISATION preventing that, is fine with me.

The FACT is, dispite ALL The GOPs effort, The US Economy is getting better without any help from The Republicans Party.

As much as “politicians” want to Cut, Slash and Destroy, the Middle Class … the real Economic Experts all agree, we can’t cut your way out of the 2008 debacle.


~ Later .... going to a Toyota Plant today and back to Boeing tomorrow. Both are BOOMING, and I'm going to get some of that CASH!

So I say ... let the Gloom and Doomers stick their head up their ass as cry the sky is falling all they want. Because I'm speeding pass them in the passing lane, saying C-Yea Sports.

Have a nice weekend. :)

I don't know anyone who is saying the market isn't improving, just that the recovery is slower than the past.

You, too, have a great weekend. Hope you pick up some work from Toyota and/or Boeing.

[Peter1469]

Exactly who are you blaming for their own action?

Here's a brilliant idea ... let deregulate them even more and blame the American people or worse the President of The United States, the President that came in office after the fact!

I blame the banks, and the government regulators that failed, and the DoJ prosecutors who have failed to put 1000s of bankers in Club Feb for their fraud.

[simpsonofpg]

Why is it so hard for congress to understand that you can't spend it if you don't have it. I heard a story today that it is so cold in Washington DC that the democracts had their hands in their own pockets.

[Alif Qadr]

A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

Republic is my hue and cry all of the time. As one poster said in regards to democracy, "Democracy: two wolves and one sheep deciding what is for dinner!" A most poignant and remarkable response/retort if I have ever read one.

[Alif Qadr]

For some reason, I like the following quote. We all should know why, I am just playing coy-boy.


“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. ” (Benjamin Franklin (http://www.ourrepubliconline.com/Author/21))