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Cigar
03-21-2013, 08:33 AM
Yea Right ... if you get your information from the so-called "experts" on the internet and Fox Noise.

http://i50.tinypic.com/t8new4.png
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/12/geography-gun-violence-cities-versus-metros/4044/


BTW ... Chicago is around 12 ... as of EOY 2012




Cities with the Highest Rates of Total Gun-Related Deaths
(per 100,000 people)


Rank
City
City Rate
Metro Rate
City/Metro
Ratio


1
New Orleans
69.1
32.8
2.1


2
Detroit
41.4
14.8
2.8


3
Las Vegas
36.9
17.6
2.1


4
Miami
33.5
11.7
2.9


5
Baltimore
33.1
15.2
2.2


6
St. Louis
31.1
14.0
2.2


7
Richmond
29.9
15.7
1.9


8
Memphis
25.5
19.8
1.3


9
Cleveland
25.2
10.9
2.3


10
Philadelphia
24.3
12.4
2.0


Table data from Centers for Disease Control [PDF] (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/wk/mm6018.pdf)





Cities with Highest Rates of Gun-Related Suicides
(per 100,000 people)


Rank
City
City Rate
Metro Rate
City/Metro Ratio


1
Las Vegas
23.4
11.4
2.1


2
Tampa
11.1
7.9
1.4


3
Aurora
10.4
8.5
1.2


4
Miami
9.8
5.4
1.8


5
Louisville
9.5
9.2
1.0


6
Mesa, AZ
9.1
9
1.0


7
Phoenix
8.9
9
1.0


8
Jacksonville
8.6
8.1
1.1


10
Kansas City, MO
8.4
7.7
1.1


10
Austin
8.4
6.6
1.3


Table data from Centers for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/wk/mm6018.pdf) [PDF]



Now sit back and watch the show

Mister D
03-21-2013, 08:37 AM
The minstrel show? Keep entertaining us. :afro:

Santa's Little Helper
03-21-2013, 11:36 AM
The minstrel show? Keep entertaining us. :afro:

Well I have stated in the past that despite the Media's fascination with Chicago 500 murders that if you look at figures on a Per-Capita basis upon which official crime rates are calculated Chicago has 2.5 million people more than many states and 500 murders spread across 2.5 million gives Chicago a LOWER HOMICIDE RATE Per-Capita than many smaller cities

Nonetheless I do NOT support more gun control cause criminals won't follow the law anyhow

But Chicago is a Good City sure it has bad sections but overall Chicago is Gr8 City and I'm sick of you pundits bashing Chicago and my home State of Illinois

Cigar
03-21-2013, 11:39 AM
Well I have stated in the past that despite the Media's fascination with Chicago 500 murders that if you look at figures on a Per-Capita basis upon which official crime rates are calculated Chicago has 2.5 million people more than many states and 500 murders spread across 2.5 million gives Chicago a LOWER HOMICIDE RATE Per-Capita than many smaller cities Nonetheless I do NOT support more gun control cause criminals won't follow the law anyhowBut Chicago is a Good City sure it has bad sections but overall Chicago is Gr8 City and I'm sick of you pundits bashing Chicago and my home State of Illinois

According to the "experts", you know the ones, even if you live in the state of Illinois, it's the same as living in Chicago ... according to the "experts" who don't like in Chicago. :)

Mister D
03-21-2013, 11:41 AM
Meanwhile, another 7 gunshot victims in Chicago...

http://news.yahoo.com/seven-wounded-possible-gang-shooting-chicago-nightclub-police-152241031.html

Santa's Little Helper
03-21-2013, 11:51 AM
Meanwhile, another 7 gunshot victims in Chicago...

http://news.yahoo.com/seven-wounded-possible-gang-shooting-chicago-nightclub-police-152241031.html

That's because of the WAR ON DRUGS

Those gangs are fighting over TERRITORY to sell drugs

Maybe if we legitimized the illicit drug industry and allow industry to handle drugs maybe Chicago's open air drug market wouldn't exist

Also Chicago is a major Transshipment Hub of Mexican Cartels and Italian and Russian Mafias so there is also an ORGANIZED CRIME elements at work as well

Greenridgeman
03-21-2013, 12:26 PM
Yea Right ... if you get your information from the so-called "experts" on the internet and Fox Noise.

http://i50.tinypic.com/t8new4.png
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/12/geography-gun-violence-cities-versus-metros/4044/


BTW ... Chicago is around 12 ... as of EOY 2012




Cities with the Highest Rates of Total Gun-Related Deaths
(per 100,000 people)



Rank

City

City Rate

Metro Rate

City/Metro
Ratio



1

New Orleans

69.1

32.8

2.1



2

Detroit

41.4

14.8

2.8



3

Las Vegas

36.9

17.6

2.1



4

Miami

33.5

11.7

2.9



5

Baltimore

33.1

15.2

2.2



6

St. Louis

31.1

14.0

2.2



7

Richmond

29.9

15.7

1.9



8

Memphis

25.5

19.8

1.3



9

Cleveland

25.2

10.9

2.3



10

Philadelphia

24.3

12.4

2.0



Table data from Centers for Disease Control [PDF] (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/wk/mm6018.pdf)





Cities with Highest Rates of Gun-Related Suicides
(per 100,000 people)



Rank

City

City Rate

Metro Rate

City/Metro Ratio



1

Las Vegas

23.4

11.4

2.1



2

Tampa

11.1

7.9

1.4



3

Aurora

10.4

8.5

1.2



4

Miami

9.8

5.4

1.8



5

Louisville

9.5

9.2

1.0



6

Mesa, AZ

9.1

9

1.0



7

Phoenix

8.9

9

1.0



8

Jacksonville

8.6

8.1

1.1



10

Kansas City, MO

8.4

7.7

1.1



10

Austin

8.4

6.6

1.3



Table data from Centers for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/wk/mm6018.pdf) [PDF]



Now sit back and watch the show



Could you show us homicide rates by race?

Slow-speed dialup makes it almost impossible for me to link to the FBI statistics.

TheDictator
03-21-2013, 12:47 PM
That's because of the WAR ON DRUGS

Those gangs are fighting over TERRITORY to sell drugs

Maybe if we legitimized the illicit drug industry and allow industry to handle drugs maybe Chicago's open air drug market wouldn't exist

Also Chicago is a major Transshipment Hub of Mexican Cartels and Italian and Russian Mafias so there is also an ORGANIZED CRIME elements at work as well


Really, one of the biggest problems we have with drugs are illegal sales of Prescription drugs.

Mister D
03-21-2013, 12:49 PM
Could you show us homicide rates by race?

Slow-speed dialup makes it almost impossible for me to link to the FBI statistics.

Blacks commit around 50% of US homicides and likely a greater share in heavily black cities like most of the top 10.

Greenridgeman
03-21-2013, 12:50 PM
Really, one of the biggest problems we have with drugs are illegal sales of Prescription drugs.


Legalize all of them; if those that can't handle them OD, it is sad, but people are dying over drug deals in greater numbers than are OD'ing.

One must know their limitations, if not, too bad.

Greenridgeman
03-21-2013, 12:52 PM
Blacks commit around 50% of US homicides and likely a greater share in heavily black cities like most of the top 10.



I'd still like someone, you perhaps, to post the actual numbers, from an official site.

Computer is especially slow today, and I tried and failed several times.

List did look like cities with highest black populations though.

If homicidal self-hate is a cultural thing, gun control will not help, will it.

Cigar
03-21-2013, 12:57 PM
I'd still like someone, you perhaps, to post the actual numbers, from an official site.

Computer is especially slow today, and I tried and failed several times.

List did look like cities with highest black populations though.

If homicidal self-hate is a cultural thing, gun control will not help, will it.


Don't worry ... Mister D has all the data on Black People, it's a hobby. :grin:

nic34
03-21-2013, 12:58 PM
Funny how that is. Is he black maybe?

Santa's Little Helper
03-21-2013, 12:59 PM
Really, one of the biggest problems we have with drugs are illegal sales of Prescription drugs.

According to a recent series on overdose deaths HEROIN is coming back big especially smaller communities

Many new Heroin users are former Oxycontin addicts who are finding a glut of more potent Heroin a cheaper alternative and more easily accessible than pharmaceutical pills

Cigar
03-21-2013, 01:00 PM
I'd still like someone, you perhaps, to post the actual numbers, from an official site.

Computer is especially slow today, and I tried and failed several times.

List did look like cities with highest black populations though.

If homicidal self-hate is a cultural thing, gun control will not help, will it.



Now that's a new concept for me, so what you're saying is, if I wanted to kill someone, it's really because I hate myself. Well, I guess I can "live" with that concept, but it sure as hell sucks for the victim. :laugh:

Cigar
03-21-2013, 01:01 PM
According to a recent series on overdose deaths HEROIN is coming back big especially smaller communities

Many new Heroin users are former Oxycontin addicts who are finding a glut of more potent Heroin a cheaper alternative and more easily accessible than pharmaceutical pills

I don't think Mister D has that flavor of data ... :grin:

Mister D
03-21-2013, 01:04 PM
http://projects.wsj.com/murderdata/#view=all

The department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics report offers a snapshot of racial disparities among violent crime victims. Black people represented an estimated 13 percent of the U.S. population in 2005, the latest data available, but were the victims of 49 percent of all murders and 15 percent of rapes, assaults and other nonfatal violent crimes nationwide.
Most of the black murder victims — 93 percent — were killed by other black people, the study found. About 85 percent of white victims were slain by other white people.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20203888/

Mister D
03-21-2013, 01:06 PM
Don't worry ... Mister D has all the data on Black People, it's a hobby. :grin:

That blacks commit a grossly disproportionate amount of violent crime in the US is just a fact. That violence appears to be a hobby of black males is rather sad. Moreover, Green is correct. More gun laws won't have much of an impact on gun violence.

Mister D
03-21-2013, 01:07 PM
Funny how that is. Is he black maybe?

My real name is Tyreal Jenkins. Whatddup, Geronimo! :afro:

nic34
03-21-2013, 01:11 PM
Mr D and the stereotyping continues...

Mister D
03-21-2013, 01:12 PM
Mr D and the stereotyping continues...

What is the stereotype? I'm genuinely curious. Could you elaborate?

Cigar
03-21-2013, 01:13 PM
Mr D and the stereotyping continues...



I think it's "Self-Hate" or "Shorty Syndrome" :grin:

roadmaster
03-21-2013, 01:14 PM
According to a recent series on overdose deaths HEROIN is coming back big especially smaller communities

Many new Heroin users are former Oxycontin addicts who are finding a glut of more potent Heroin a cheaper alternative and more easily accessible than pharmaceutical pills
Only the ones who crushed up the pill and injected it. They are making it harder to crush up now. People will abuse anything and Oxycontin is great for nerve pain and the people who really need it should be able to get it especially after surgery. Just like now young people are putting cold meds into soda for a high or sniffing different things. Why hurt the ones who really need it because of these?

Santa's Little Helper
03-21-2013, 02:58 PM
Only the ones who crushed up the pill and injected it. They are making it harder to crush up now. People will abuse anything and Oxycontin is great for nerve pain and the people who really need it should be able to get it especially after surgery. Just like now young people are putting cold meds into soda for a high or sniffing different things. Why hurt the ones who really need it because of these?

I agree but as they say "afew bad apples spoils the whole bunch"

Same with Sudafed when I got a bad cold

If you want Sudafed the real kind you must go to a pharmacy produce I'd and are limited to Two Boxes per week

This law was to circumvent clandestine methamphetamine production

Now Meth users team together in groups and go SMURFING and hit dozens of pharmacy to hoard pills

Mister D
03-21-2013, 02:58 PM
What is the stereotype? I'm genuinely curious. Could you elaborate?

Nic? You have no idea, do you?

Santa's Little Helper
03-21-2013, 03:02 PM
My real name is Tyreal Jenkins. Whatddup, Geronimo! :afro:

YOU are NOT the REAL Tyreal Jenkins

Tyreal is a Cannonpointer homeboy sok from another board

No offense Mister D but there ain't no way you can be Cannonpointer unless your favorite two words are Rape Whistle

So give it up pal

Captain Obvious
03-21-2013, 04:04 PM
Funny how that is. Is he black maybe?

Judge for yourself:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT7xnmzmRM-EgOGxxVmOpN7ctPZtwJagTL3UQZsFzrQOMdS3Hah1A