Great political Comment by a Comedian

[Cigar]

"Every election, roughly half the population votes Democrat, the other half votes Republican. I understand why Republicans get 1% of the vote . . . the richest 1%. That other 49% (of Americans) someone will just have to explain to me.

The facts about what the Republicans have done to the Middle Class are beyond reasonable doubt. And yet their base refuses to see it. The moneyed elite of America are dragging a bag filled with your future down the steps and your reaction is, "Hold on there, that looks heavy, let me give you a hand getting that into your trunk."

~ Bill Mahar

Humm ... that's a good question, why is that and what's reasonable the explanation? :thinking:

[TNHarley]

What absolute horseshit
Typical liberal rhetoric

[Cigar]

What absolute horseshit
Typical liberal rhetoric


That's your explanation ... ?

Well ... what did I expect anyway.

[keymanjim]

All those $40,000 a plate fundraising dinners held for obama weren't attended by the middle class.

[zelmo1234]

Well it is very easy, If you want free stuff and to have the promise of poverty without work. Then you are a Democrat.

This way they keep making laws that make it harder for you to loose your government job, they keep raising your salary, and you do less and less for it! So you base is those that are dependent on government either through employment or Free stuff.

Now if you would like at shot at the american dream, and want that rich person to invest in this coutntry and create jobs that will allow you to save and eventually invest and start yoru own nest egg, then you are a republican. know that the nanny state is a promise of poverty and dispair, you are willing to put forth the effort.

You know that you are responsible for your own place in life and that government is one of the things standing in the way of progress.

Cigar know this and so does Maher. but they like having the power over the poor and calling it compassion! a rising standard of living spells disaster for the democrats.

[TNHarley]

Ther eis no explanation
It is crap

[Chris]

Mayer is funny, his jokes are not.

[patrickt]

Bill Maher and Cigar find calling women cunts and abusing black women to be humorous and acceptable.

[Cigar]

Well it is very easy, If you want free stuff and to have the promise of poverty without work. Then you are a Democrat.

This way they keep making laws that make it harder for you to loose your government job, they keep raising your salary, and you do less and less for it! So you base is those that are dependent on government either through employment or Free stuff.

Now if you would like at shot at the american dream, and want that rich person to invest in this coutntry and create jobs that will allow you to save and eventually invest and start yoru own nest egg, then you are a republican. know that the nanny state is a promise of poverty and dispair, you are willing to put forth the effort.

You know that you are responsible for your own place in life and that government is one of the things standing in the way of progress.

Cigar know this and so does Maher. but they like having the power over the poor and calling it compassion! a rising standard of living spells disaster for the democrats.



Keep up the great work, as you can tell, this strategy is brilliant and is working like a charm. :icon_thumleft:

I wouldn't want you to change anything, actually I would prefer you and your supporters to kick it up a notch. :wink:

[keymanjim]

Keep up the great work, as you can tell, this strategy is brilliant and is working like a charm. :icon_thumleft:

I wouldn't want you to change anything, actually I would prefer you and your supporters to kick it up a notch. :wink:
Well?
What about all those that attend $40,000 a plate fundraisers for obama? Are they part of the "correct" 1%?

[Cigar]

Well?
What about all those that attend $40,000 a plate fundraisers for obama? Are they part of the "correct" 1%?

Absolutely, anyone sitting at an Obama $40K per/plate fundraiser who has the balls to call the people waiting on them “takers” … then yes obviously they think they are the 1%. I have no problem calling out elitist ass-holes of the privileged who think most of us are just here to fight their War and cleanup their shit after they take a crap, then blame the stench on the cleaning crew.

BTW … is you have one of those dinners recorded, post it on YouTube and you got a story.

Your move. :wink:

[TNHarley]

LOL
People who contribute to society are not takers
Get off the ABC and NBC
The RUSH of the left

[Cigar]

LOL
People who contribute to society are not takers
Get off the ABC and NBC
The RUSH of the left

You may want to have that conversation with some the GOP party Members, there's plenty of actual live footage of those exact words coming directly from their own vocal cords, and it ain't hard to find.

Just Google: "Maker and Takers" :rollseyes:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/paul-ryan-changes-his-story-makers-and-takers
http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/09/18/makers-vs-takers-romneys-47-percent-rhetoric-ec/189987
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/paul-ryans-47-percent-takers-vs-makers-video
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704050204576219073867182108.html

[TNHarley]

Extremists are not the majority of anything
Do left wing extremists represent you?

[zelmo1234]

Keep up the great work, as you can tell, this strategy is brilliant and is working like a charm. :icon_thumleft:

I wouldn't want you to change anything, actually I would prefer you and your supporters to kick it up a notch. :wink:

I don't think we ahve to change much the old guard that killed the party like McCain and Graham are either leaveing or the are loosing in primaries.

We have young leaders that are popular with the country, and we have just completed our run of 2 moderates in a row, which we have to do from time to time.

Obama is an economic disaster, and we will have to see, if the Democratic party has the populations convinced that socialism is a great thing then we will continue to loose elections, until we hit the wall and at ther rate we are building debt that is not that far away, then the liberals will have some explaining to do! that is why they want the RNC to go on this journey with them, so they can share the balme.

[Cigar]

Extremists are not the majority of anything
Do left wing extremists represent you?

Are you calling Paul Ryan a Right Wing Extremist?

Mr Ryan is Community Chairman and ex-VP candidate ...

Who on the Democrat said that you would call extreme?

[Mister D]

There is virtually no one on the national stage that is "extreme".

[Agravan]

All Republicans are extreme and all Democrats are compassionate... to the media

[Chris]

Well?
What about all those that attend $40,000 a plate fundraisers for obama? Are they part of the "correct" 1%?

No, the PC 1%. Lol.

[Chris]

Are you calling Paul Ryan a Right Wing Extremist?

Mr Ryan is Community Chairman and ex-VP candidate ...

Who on the Democrat said that you would call extreme?

You.

[Mainecoons]

Chris, you deserve credit not only for your response but also for deciphering another one of Cigar's garbled posts.

:rofl:

[simpsonofpg]

"Every election, roughly half the population votes Democrat, the other half votes Republican. I understand why Republicans get 1% of the vote . . . the richest 1%. That other 49% (of Americans) someone will just have to explain to me.

The facts about what the Republicans have done to the Middle Class are beyond reasonable doubt. And yet their base refuses to see it. The moneyed elite of America are dragging a bag filled with your future down the steps and your reaction is, "Hold on there, that looks heavy, let me give you a hand getting that into your trunk."

~ Bill Mahar

Humm ... that's a good question, why is that and what's reasonable the explanation? :thinking:

Remember that this is Bill Mahar speaking. This is nothing new he has a well oiled agenda and has never ever looked at both sides. I have always lived pretty good under a republican administration but when Clinton followed by Obama shows up leadership is lacking all the way around.

[Mainecoons]

Let's see, since Obama got in, 6 million people started looking for work, food stamp usage has exploded, millions of full time jobs have been lost to be replaced with crappy part time ones and the real unemployment rate is over 14 percent, the One Percent has basically taken all the income gains, essentials for the middle class like energy and food have leaped in price and medical insurance is going to, yeah the Republicans are really bad for the middle class and Ovomit is just f-ing wonderful.

And only a complete, stupid fool like Cigar could take anything a Maher has to say seriously.

[Newpublius]

I wrote a maker/taker article coincident with the 47% comment by Romney should anyone be interested:

How dare he? How dare Mitt Romney suggest that people likely voting for President Obama have an economic interest in doing so? Romney’s statements, focusing on the statistic of individuals paying little to any income taxes to the Federal government has been interpreted as a potential gaffe. Nevertheless, on this point, Romney is 100% accurate, albeit his political stances are accordingly not 100% consistent with this sentiment.
Back in 1961, President Eisenhower gave a speech, a speech simply remembered as the “Military-Industrial Complex Speech,” it’s a famous speech and it’s often cited by liberals who will typically be opposed to hawkish Republican defense budgets. The pertinent portion of the speech states:
“Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist”
Eisenhower’s speech is very prescient of course and while its focused on the private armaments industry getting Federal contracts, the military itself, which at the time had millions of service members on the payroll; in a broader sense it gives credence to economist Warren Nutter’s famous observation: “Government, it seems safe to say, is the one thing that has been growing rapidly in the West,. Wherever governments were once small they have become big, and wherever they were big they have become bigger. Nothing is so rare as a shrinking government.” – Economist Warren Nutter.
Indeed, government spending at all levels reached $6.05 trillion dollars in 2011 with a nominal GDP in 2011 of $15.09 trillion. This is slightly better than 40%. Trillions are ultimately meaningless numbers to most people, but what this means is that 40% of all the goods and services that are being produced in the United States move from the private sector to the public sector and then get spent by our public decision makers at the local, state and Federal levels. This is the effective aggregate tax rate faced by our society – 40%. It’s an obscene amount and frankly the only thing that makes it even more appalling is the fact that it’s not completely funded by honest to goodness taxation, its funded, in large part, by the sale of bonds, and massive amounts of them ($16 trillion and counting), government bonds of course being merely the promise of future taxation.
The Democrats will do everything in their power to convince you of the ‘fairness’ of their tax proposals, which require you to believe that the rich really don’t pay as much as you do. They do. In 2009, the top 1 percent of tax returns paid 36.7 percent of all federal individual income taxes and the top 5 percent paid approximately 58.7 percent of federal individual income taxes. http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/summary-latest-federal-individual-income-tax-data-0 Which begs the question, just how much more progressive do they want to make the tax code? Ultimately when you convince the population that Mitt Romney’s personal rate of taxation is actually less than average by myopically focusing on his personal return and failing to note his share of the corporate tax return, after all corporate taxation is a ‘double taxation’ regime for a reason, I have to think that the government is making the case that its entitled to an even greater share of our national income.
One truism that needs to be taken from this article is that when the government decides to spend $6.05 trillion dollars, the government is spending these sums and we, the taxpayers, do not. Ultimately who do you think is better at spending these sums, the government, or yourself? The answer should be obvious, because if you truly believe the government is better at spending than your own personal decisions, then why not let the government allocate all of it? Well, we all know how that worked out in the former Communist nations of the Eastern bloc. This is the problem that Romney alludes to in his statement because at the end of the day, when the elephantine Federal government is making spending decisions that contribute to the majority of the 40% of GDP spent on government, employing millions of people – whether its welfare, defense, Medicaid or Medicare, sure enough there’s going to be substantial portions of the electorate with an interest in those expenditures.
This is how ‘creeping socialism’ creeps, this is why nothing is so rare as a shrinking government and no matter how you slice it, it just doesn’t work. Our society will not prosper with government spending at 40% of GDP.