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Cigar
04-03-2013, 06:58 AM
How about we ask several hundred thousand people that question?

It's now an article of faith that dire sequestration warnings were overblown (http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20130327/NEWS01/303270318/Alexander-Sequestration-predictions-exaggerated).

New studies downsize (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/estimates-lowered-for-sequestration-related-job-losses/2013/03/29/0de23fa4-917a-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_story.html) potential job losses because of the federal budget cuts. Agencies have figured ways to ensure that the more alarming effects (no food inspectors! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/beef-with-the-sequester-at-least-one-federal-program-was-able-to-beat-it/2013/03/31/1f45f44e-97f5-11e2-b6a6-affcd1af039a_story.html)) are avoided. Government organizations are coming up with methods to delay severe disruptions. Congress isn't debating a replacement. The media have lost interest or have reduced it to a political argument (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/29/sequestration-effects_n_2980099.html). The economy was supposed to be brought to its knees by the $85 billion in cuts. Instead, we trudge along in a new normal.


This is a dramatic misunderstanding of what's actually happening. The grips of sequestration are just now beginning to be felt and the effects are already quite dramatic.


Organizations and companies have begun laying off workers, while many more have decided not to staff vacant positions. Schools on military bases are contemplating four-day weekly schedules. Food pantries have closed, as have centers that provide health services. Farmers have been forced to go without milk production information, causing alarm in the dairy industry and the potential of higher milk prices. Workers at missile-testing fields are facing job losses. Federal courts have closed on Fridays. Public Broadcasting transmitters have been shut down. Even luxury cruises are feeling the pinch, with passengers forced to wait hours before debarking because of delays at Customs and Immigration. Yes, sequestration is creating the possibility of another poop cruise.


On the national level, sequestration may be defined by canceled White House tours and long lines at airports that never materialized. But on the local level, it is beginning to sting.

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Dozier's story and 99 others from the past week are below.



1. Air Force base jobs lost in Tullahoma, Tenn. -- The Aerospace Testing Alliance announced it is cutting 128 of 1,809 civilian jobs at Arnold Air Force Base in Tullahoma starting April 19. It has also put in place a 20 percent pay cut and weekly furloughs for workers at a research facility. [Link (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/mar/28/testing-facility-feels-pains-of-sequester/)]
2. Loss of jobs in Rock Island, Ill. -- The U.S. Army garrison, Rock Island Arsenal, announced that it is firing 175 employees, 44 of whom are temporary workers, 131 of whom will see their jobs unrenewed when their terms expire. [Link (http://www.kwqc.com/story/21830022/rock-island-arsenal-workers-notified-of-job-cuts)]
3. Medical response times lengthened in central Nebraska. -- Medical responders have had response times lengthened because of the closing of a control tower at the Central Nebraska Regional Airport. [Link (http://www.khastv.com/news/local/Sequestration-could-hinder-medical-responders-200895931.html)]
4. Food pantry closed in Murray, Utah. -- The Salt Lake Community Action Program closed its food pantry, one of five locations that serve more than 1,000 people every month. Executive Director Cathy Hoskins told The Huffington Post that in addition to the closure, the organization has stopped paying into employees' retirement plans, won't fill an open job and told some staffers to take a week's unpaid leave. "I've had one person retire, we're not replacing them. We're not doing any hiring at all," Hoskins said. "We're trying very hard to boost our volunteers, but this is hard work working in a pantry. And if you get a volunteer, usually it's a short-term volunteer because it's just very very difficult work. ... No raises, no increases, none of that stuff. We're cutting everything we possibly can." [Link (http://fox13now.com/2013/03/29/sequestration-forces-food-pantry-closure/)]
5. Research employees lost in Durham, N.C. -- The Duke Clinical Research Institute is planning to "downsize" 50 employees. [Link (http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2013/03/duke-unit-staring-at-downsizing.html)]
6. Contractor jobs lost in southwest Oklahoma. -- Northrop Grumman Information Systems Lawton, Okla., site issued 26 layoff notices. The defense contractor CGI is anticipating that sequestration would affect 270 workers at its Lawton site. [Link (http://www.swoknews.com/news-top/local/item/6038-almost-300-jobs-in-danger)]
7. Health care jobs cut in Hampton Roads, Va. -- Officials at Hampton Roads Planning District Commission announce that 1,600 jobs in the region's health care sector will disappear. "It won't be job cuts," said James A. Clary, an economist with the group. "It will be not filling the positions." [Link (http://hamptonroads.com/2013/03/hospitals-assess-how-deal-cuts)]
8. Health care workers laid off in Saranac Lake, N.Y. -- Adirondack Health, a medical center at Lake Placid, announced that was laying off 18 workers after firing 17 in December. [Link (http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/21682/20130325/adirondack-health-explains-layoffs-er-plans)]
9. Rehabilitation center for Native Americans closed in Sitka, Alaska. -- The SouthEast Alaska Regional Health Consortium announced that on April 30, it is closing the Bill Brady Healing Center, a residential drug and alcohol treatment center for Alaska Natives. Michael Jenkins, communications director, said the approximately 20 people who work there will be transferred to other positions in the organization, furloughed or fired. "For the most part, because of our location here in southeast, alcohol and drug abuse has a very high incidence. So taking this away is going to make it difficult," he said. [Link (http://articles.ktuu.com/2013-03-28/alaska-natives_38107521)]
10. Education jobs lost in Sioux City, Iowa. -- The Iowa Early Intervention education program is bracing for the loss of 11 teaching positions, while the Sioux City Community School Board is looking at potentially 30 staff positions being eliminated. [Link (http://www.ktiv.com/story/21791415/2013/03/25/sioux-city-school-board-deals-with-buget-cuts)]


.... and many many many more ... yes you may not be feeling the effects, but that doesn't mean much to the hundreds of thousands of others who are.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/sequestration-effects_n_2996101.html

zelmo1234
04-03-2013, 07:07 AM
So you are saying that even though most families have had to tighten their belts by over 10% because of this administrations lack of policies that will actually create jobs?

That our government can't live with a 2% increase in spending over last years. budget?

That is total bull shit and you know it. it is likely that most of the job cuts that are being sceen right now were planed wehater we had sequestration or not.

Obama has mandated that we try and make the cuts as pianful as possible.

http://1389blog.com/2013/03/28/lying-obama-intentionally-makes-sequester-cuts-as-painful-as-possible/

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2013/03/10/obama-administration-trying-make-sequester-painful-possible

liberals and democrats are pitching a fit because they could not scare the people into believeing that cutting spending was a bad thing.

The stock market went nuts when it was clear that the government would finally have to make a real cut, in the increase in spending

So now people like our friend Cigar are going to try and blame everything they can on it because it once again proves that governmet is the problem not the solution.

Get with the program on the left Anmerica thinks the national debt is a bad thing!

Cigar
04-03-2013, 07:15 AM
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keymanjim
04-03-2013, 09:51 AM
I suggest you ask 'dirty' harry reid what happened to the 44 jobs bills that the House sent over to the Senate never to be seen or heard from again.

simpsonofpg
04-04-2013, 07:17 PM
This is all smoke screen but a bunch of misfits to keep us from focusing on the real issue. I am willing to be that there is not one goverment agency that couldn't cut 20% and never miss a beat in doing their job if the rest would just work. Working hard all day is a foreign concept for goverment workers. Congress is not willing to do their jobs because it might cause them some headache from the people they are paying off.

simpsonofpg
04-05-2013, 10:14 AM
Thanks, I really think that congress is the probelm. Obama is a thorn in our side but congress passes or won't pass the the laws necessary to get us backon track. Term limits would really help. Congress should be a service to your couintry not a free pass to making millions.

patrickt
04-05-2013, 10:45 AM
In answer to the thread title, yes. Weeks of, "The sky is going to fall," then a week of "The sky is falling," and then, crickets. The sky didn't fall, did it?

Cigar
04-05-2013, 10:46 AM
In answer to the thread title, yes.

So all those "FACTS" are "lies"? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/sequestration-effects_n_2996101.html

Please show us where you're getting your information.

Private Pickle
04-05-2013, 11:01 AM
How about we ask several hundred thousand people that question?

It's now an article of faith that dire sequestration warnings were overblown (http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20130327/NEWS01/303270318/Alexander-Sequestration-predictions-exaggerated).

New studies downsize (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/estimates-lowered-for-sequestration-related-job-losses/2013/03/29/0de23fa4-917a-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_story.html) potential job losses because of the federal budget cuts. Agencies have figured ways to ensure that the more alarming effects (no food inspectors! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/beef-with-the-sequester-at-least-one-federal-program-was-able-to-beat-it/2013/03/31/1f45f44e-97f5-11e2-b6a6-affcd1af039a_story.html)) are avoided. Government organizations are coming up with methods to delay severe disruptions. Congress isn't debating a replacement. The media have lost interest or have reduced it to a political argument (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/29/sequestration-effects_n_2980099.html). The economy was supposed to be brought to its knees by the $85 billion in cuts. Instead, we trudge along in a new normal.


This is a dramatic misunderstanding of what's actually happening. The grips of sequestration are just now beginning to be felt and the effects are already quite dramatic.


Organizations and companies have begun laying off workers, while many more have decided not to staff vacant positions. Schools on military bases are contemplating four-day weekly schedules. Food pantries have closed, as have centers that provide health services. Farmers have been forced to go without milk production information, causing alarm in the dairy industry and the potential of higher milk prices. Workers at missile-testing fields are facing job losses. Federal courts have closed on Fridays. Public Broadcasting transmitters have been shut down. Even luxury cruises are feeling the pinch, with passengers forced to wait hours before debarking because of delays at Customs and Immigration. Yes, sequestration is creating the possibility of another poop cruise.


On the national level, sequestration may be defined by canceled White House tours and long lines at airports that never materialized. But on the local level, it is beginning to sting.

-0-

Dozier's story and 99 others from the past week are below.



1. Air Force base jobs lost in Tullahoma, Tenn. -- The Aerospace Testing Alliance announced it is cutting 128 of 1,809 civilian jobs at Arnold Air Force Base in Tullahoma starting April 19. It has also put in place a 20 percent pay cut and weekly furloughs for workers at a research facility. [Link (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/mar/28/testing-facility-feels-pains-of-sequester/)]
2. Loss of jobs in Rock Island, Ill. -- The U.S. Army garrison, Rock Island Arsenal, announced that it is firing 175 employees, 44 of whom are temporary workers, 131 of whom will see their jobs unrenewed when their terms expire. [Link (http://www.kwqc.com/story/21830022/rock-island-arsenal-workers-notified-of-job-cuts)]
3. Medical response times lengthened in central Nebraska. -- Medical responders have had response times lengthened because of the closing of a control tower at the Central Nebraska Regional Airport. [Link (http://www.khastv.com/news/local/Sequestration-could-hinder-medical-responders-200895931.html)]
4. Food pantry closed in Murray, Utah. -- The Salt Lake Community Action Program closed its food pantry, one of five locations that serve more than 1,000 people every month. Executive Director Cathy Hoskins told The Huffington Post that in addition to the closure, the organization has stopped paying into employees' retirement plans, won't fill an open job and told some staffers to take a week's unpaid leave. "I've had one person retire, we're not replacing them. We're not doing any hiring at all," Hoskins said. "We're trying very hard to boost our volunteers, but this is hard work working in a pantry. And if you get a volunteer, usually it's a short-term volunteer because it's just very very difficult work. ... No raises, no increases, none of that stuff. We're cutting everything we possibly can." [Link (http://fox13now.com/2013/03/29/sequestration-forces-food-pantry-closure/)]
5. Research employees lost in Durham, N.C. -- The Duke Clinical Research Institute is planning to "downsize" 50 employees. [Link (http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2013/03/duke-unit-staring-at-downsizing.html)]
6. Contractor jobs lost in southwest Oklahoma. -- Northrop Grumman Information Systems Lawton, Okla., site issued 26 layoff notices. The defense contractor CGI is anticipating that sequestration would affect 270 workers at its Lawton site. [Link (http://www.swoknews.com/news-top/local/item/6038-almost-300-jobs-in-danger)]
7. Health care jobs cut in Hampton Roads, Va. -- Officials at Hampton Roads Planning District Commission announce that 1,600 jobs in the region's health care sector will disappear. "It won't be job cuts," said James A. Clary, an economist with the group. "It will be not filling the positions." [Link (http://hamptonroads.com/2013/03/hospitals-assess-how-deal-cuts)]
8. Health care workers laid off in Saranac Lake, N.Y. -- Adirondack Health, a medical center at Lake Placid, announced that was laying off 18 workers after firing 17 in December. [Link (http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/21682/20130325/adirondack-health-explains-layoffs-er-plans)]
9. Rehabilitation center for Native Americans closed in Sitka, Alaska. -- The SouthEast Alaska Regional Health Consortium announced that on April 30, it is closing the Bill Brady Healing Center, a residential drug and alcohol treatment center for Alaska Natives. Michael Jenkins, communications director, said the approximately 20 people who work there will be transferred to other positions in the organization, furloughed or fired. "For the most part, because of our location here in southeast, alcohol and drug abuse has a very high incidence. So taking this away is going to make it difficult," he said. [Link (http://articles.ktuu.com/2013-03-28/alaska-natives_38107521)]
10. Education jobs lost in Sioux City, Iowa. -- The Iowa Early Intervention education program is bracing for the loss of 11 teaching positions, while the Sioux City Community School Board is looking at potentially 30 staff positions being eliminated. [Link (http://www.ktiv.com/story/21791415/2013/03/25/sioux-city-school-board-deals-with-buget-cuts)]


.... and many many many more ... yes you may not be feeling the effects, but that doesn't mean much to the hundreds of thousands of others who are.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/sequestration-effects_n_2996101.html

What's the matter Cigar? Your President won the election right? You should cry more. I like it.

Cigar
04-05-2013, 11:14 AM
What's the matter Cigar? Your President won the election right? You should cry more. I like it.

Cry?

Naaa I leave the crying and bitching to those who are bast at it.

I'm just having fun watching the clown show.

Common
04-05-2013, 11:20 AM
ive been reading the last couple of days that the sequester pain is starting to hit.

Mainecoons
04-05-2013, 11:21 AM
How Obama cuts the unemployment rate:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/03/Labor%20Force_0.jpg

Whatsamatter Cigar, your guy's sequester the new scapegoat?

:rofl:

Private Pickle
04-05-2013, 11:25 AM
Cry?

Naaa I leave the crying and bitching to those who are bast at it.

I'm just having fun watching the clown show.

I think that's a perfect description of the current Executive Branch.

Cigar
04-05-2013, 11:36 AM
I think that's a perfect description of the current Executive Branch.

You're Fucking kidding ... right? :smiley_ROFLMAO:


http://c1redgreenandblueorg.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2012/01/gop_clown-car.jpg

http://blogs.cfr.org/lindsay/files/2011/06/GOP-debate.gif

Cigar
04-05-2013, 11:37 AM
How Obama cuts the unemployment rate:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/03/Labor Force_0.jpg

Whatsamatter Cigar, your guy's sequester the new scapegoat?

:rofl:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rkJEouQKN_w/TuZ0y3QM9hI/AAAAAAAAApo/WNm0JVHb5cM/s1600/Unemployment+Chart+-+Bush+v+Obama.jpg

Private Pickle
04-05-2013, 12:30 PM
Hey! Look everybody! I can post stupid, inane and petulant pictures too!

2232

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Cigar
04-05-2013, 12:34 PM
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/0/4/7/7/6/3/4/Obama-laughing-68921584114.jpeg#Obama%20laughing

nic34
04-05-2013, 12:48 PM
Wait till you see the 2016 gop field.....:smiley_ROFLMAO:

Newpublius
04-05-2013, 12:56 PM
How Obama cuts the unemployment rate:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/03/Labor%20Force_0.jpg
Whatsamatter Cigar, your guy's sequester the new scapegoat?

:rofl:

I tend to prefer to call it "denominator economics"

zelmo1234
04-05-2013, 02:37 PM
Wait till you see the 2016 gop field.....:smiley_ROFLMAO:

Yes and you will have a 70+ year old women! to run against them. Though she will be twice the president that this idiot is!

Mainecoons
04-05-2013, 05:09 PM
What I find amazing about Dumb and Dumber is that these two actually think that the current fiscal situation is either desirable or sustainable. Let alone not asking the question about what it says when slowing down government borrowing and wasteful spending actually affects employment. It never occurs to these two idiots that what the job data are telling them is that the Bozo In Chief and his sidekick, Chief Prints More Money, have so crippled the private economy that as soon as the government waste slows down, it has a measurable affect on the employment numbers.

Cigar and Nic, you two really are amazingly clueless about the economic state of the nation and the damage the Vacationer In Chief has wreaked on it.