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Cigar
04-11-2013, 07:16 AM
In a video released today Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn encourages terrorists to use American gun shows to arm themselves for potential Mumbai-style attacks (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-alert-continues-nypd-holds-drill-prep-mumbai/story?id=11879452). Gadahn's video laid out a new tactic for Al Qaeda to continue their murderous terrorist agenda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o):


America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?

At gun shows buyers can purchase guns from private sellers without passing a background check. An investigation by the City of New York showed that even buyers that identified themselves as people who "probably couldn't pass a background check (http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201101310006)" were able to purchase guns at gun shows. The investigation also showed the wide variety of guns available at gun shows.



Change has come to America :grin:

Cigar
04-11-2013, 07:44 AM
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4656050455840169&pid=1.7&w=237&h=155&c=7&rs=1

Peter1469
04-11-2013, 08:30 AM
I wonder when a hellfire missile will slam into him??? That will suck for him.

Agravan
04-11-2013, 11:05 AM
In a video released today Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn encourages terrorists to use American gun shows to arm themselves for potential Mumbai-style attacks (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-alert-continues-nypd-holds-drill-prep-mumbai/story?id=11879452). Gadahn's video laid out a new tactic for Al Qaeda to continue their murderous terrorist agenda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o):



At gun shows buyers can purchase guns from private sellers without passing a background check. An investigation by the City of New York showed that even buyers that identified themselves as people who "probably couldn't pass a background check (http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201101310006)" were able to purchase guns at gun shows. The investigation also showed the wide variety of guns available at gun shows.



Change has come to America :grin:

Playing to leftist fears. I see it's working.

truthmatters
04-11-2013, 11:20 AM
um dude you guys are the ones who screamed "if you are not with us your against us" for a decade

truthmatters
04-11-2013, 11:21 AM
Bush operated on fear.

color coded fear

Agravan
04-11-2013, 11:30 AM
"You can buy a fully automatic assault rifle with no background check" - typical liberal propaganda. Again, plying to liberal fears and Cigar and TM have fully bought into it.

Private Pickle
04-11-2013, 11:33 AM
Is the point of this OP to imply that the 2nd Amendment is now aiding terrorists and that is why we need to get rid of it?

truthmatters
04-11-2013, 11:37 AM
its not the second amendment its the bad gun laws

nic34
04-11-2013, 11:45 AM
or lack thereof....

Private Pickle
04-11-2013, 11:45 AM
its not the second amendment its the bad gun laws

Well looks like we're gonna have to figure out some new speech laws then while we're at it then huh? So that radical Muslims don't espouse their beliefs onto America? To make sure we are protecting ourselves against terrorists..

You must be a fan of the Patriot Act.

Private Pickle
04-11-2013, 11:45 AM
or lack thereof....

Given those laws typically infringe on the 2nd Amendment.

Alif Qadr
04-11-2013, 12:42 PM
its not the second amendment its the bad gun laws

If you understand the Second Amendment, there are not supposed to be any guns laws.
This is the same old type of arguments used during Chattel and Nadir against Black folks owning guns.The pushing of the fear of societal breakdown. Do you know who were the ones pushing such ideas? It was the plantation owners, then later the Ku Klux Klan (see Democrats) and later The White Citizen Councils and Gay Edgar Hoover, among other notorious colorful people of the same vane.
It is nice to see Liberals/Progressives prove my thoughts and research correct in regards to them and their extremism against others that they deem unworthy of just treatment as well as equal application of law(s). Just keep it going, sooner or later, more people are going to awaken to your rhetoric.

Private Pickle
04-11-2013, 12:48 PM
If you understand the Second Amendment, there are not supposed to be any guns laws.
This is the same old type of arguments used during Chattel and Nadir against Black folks owning guns.The pushing of the fear of societal breakdown. Do you know who were the ones pushing such ideas? It was the plantation owners, then later the Ku Klux Klan (see Democrats) and later The White Citizen Councils and Gay Edgar Hoover, among other notorious colorful people of the same vane.
It is nice to see Liberals/Progressives prove my thoughts and research correct in regards to them and their extremism against others that they deem unworthy of just treatment as well as equal application of law(s). Just keep it going, sooner or later, more people are going to awaken to your rhetoric.

"Gay Edgar Hoover" - I LOL'd

Chris
04-11-2013, 01:07 PM
or lack thereof....

So what gun laws would have prevented 9/11, nic? What, Sandy Hook?

And tell us how to predict the unpredictable.

nic34
04-11-2013, 01:39 PM
If you understand the Second Amendment, there are not supposed to be any guns laws.


If you read the whole thing you'll find the words "well regulated" in there. Regulations take form as laws....

Private Pickle
04-11-2013, 01:47 PM
If you read the whole thing you'll find the words "well regulated" in there. Regulations take form as laws....

"well regulated militia" actually... Nice try..


A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

What does "infringement" mean to you?

Agravan
04-11-2013, 01:47 PM
If you read the whole thing you'll find the words "well regulated" in there. Regulations take form as laws....

Well regulated meant well equipped in that era. But then, you people know that.

nic34
04-11-2013, 01:49 PM
So what gun laws would have prevented 9/11, nic? What, Sandy Hook?

And tell us how to predict the unpredictable.


9/11. really? Please. That was a failure of many things including airport security and Bush's failure to stay current with his briefings....

As for Sandy Hook, better background checks and if an extension in 2004 of the 1994 assault weapon ban had been passed, the mother would not have been able to legally (as she had) bought the ar-15.

I've already stated that being linited to a 10 round clip would have slowed the reload process.

Chris
04-11-2013, 02:16 PM
If you read the whole thing you'll find the words "well regulated" in there. Regulations take form as laws....

If you keep the words in place you'll see well-regulated attaches to militia, not bearing or keeping. And if you keep the words in historical context, you'll see well-regulated meant well-kept, well-oiled, well-maintained, and not limited.

I see others beat me to these punches.

Chris
04-11-2013, 02:23 PM
9/11. really? Please. That was a failure of many things including airport security and Bush's failure to stay current with his briefings....

As for Sandy Hook, better background checks and if an extension in 2004 of the 1994 assault weapon ban had been passed, the mother would not have been able to legally (as she had) bought the ar-15.

I've already stated that being linited to a 10 round clip would have slowed the reload process.

Those were failures of the human intellect to understand there are things you cannot predict, Black Swans, Taleb argues in The Black Swan.


The guns used in Sandy Hook were purchased legally with checks and they were not assault weapons, nic.

You can change a clip in a second or two.

nic34
04-11-2013, 02:30 PM
more blind denialist gun worship....

Mainecoons
04-11-2013, 02:32 PM
more blind denialist gun worship....

More of your crap since you can't respond to the facts stated here:


The guns used in Sandy Hook were purchased legally with checks and they were not assault weapons, nic.

You can change a clip in a second or two.

Ivan88
04-11-2013, 07:18 PM
In a video released today Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn encourages terrorists to use American gun shows to arm themselves for potential Mumbai-style attacks (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-alert-continues-nypd-holds-drill-prep-mumbai/story?id=11879452). Gadahn's video laid out a new tactic for Al Qaeda to continue their murderous terrorist agenda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o):

Change has come to America :grin:

For the heavy stuff they need, they will get supplied by the Saudis who are now exempt from Customs. Otherwise, the USA will supply them as it has done in Bosnia, Afghanistan, Libya, & now Syria.

The speaker claims to be against "Zionists" when in fact, the Talmu-"Islamics" planning a war against Americans, are working hand in hand with the Saudis, Israelis & USA.

zelmo1234
04-11-2013, 07:40 PM
If you read the whole thing you'll find the words "well regulated" in there. Regulations take form as laws....

AHHHHH! Liberals you already know this, it has been discussed time and time again, I you still! Try and change the meaning of the amendment.

So Once again what did they mean by well regulated! They meant that the people should be like a well regulated clock and have their arms in good working order, with all of the necessities! Powder,flints, gunpowder and lead Balls, all the things needed to arm the assualt rifle of the day!

Come on man, Yes you can find gun control advocates all over the net pointing to this, but you can not find one of the founding fathers that called for restirction of arms to the people!

YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS!

jillian
04-11-2013, 07:41 PM
Playing to leftist fears. I see it's working.

so that isn't a good way for them to get guns?

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:42 PM
In a video released today Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn encourages terrorists to use American gun shows to arm themselves for potential Mumbai-style attacks (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-alert-continues-nypd-holds-drill-prep-mumbai/story?id=11879452). Gadahn's video laid out a new tactic for Al Qaeda to continue their murderous terrorist agenda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o):



At gun shows buyers can purchase guns from private sellers without passing a background check. An investigation by the City of New York showed that even buyers that identified themselves as people who "probably couldn't pass a background check (http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201101310006)" were able to purchase guns at gun shows. The investigation also showed the wide variety of guns available at gun shows.



Change has come to America :grin:

NOTHING has changed

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:43 PM
um dude you guys are the ones who screamed "if you are not with us your against us" for a decade

Irrelevant

jillian
04-11-2013, 07:43 PM
AHHHHH! Liberals you already know this, it has been discussed time and time again, I you still! Try and change the meaning of the amendment.

So Once again what did they mean by well regulated! They meant that the people should be like a well regulated clock and have their arms in good working order, with all of the necessities! Powder,flints, gunpowder and lead Balls, all the things needed to arm the assualt rifle of the day!

Come on man, Yes you can find gun control advocates all over the net pointing to this, but you can not find one of the founding fathers that called for restirction of arms to the people!

YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS!

calm down, zelmo. you're head's going to explode!

are you claiming that the term "well-regulated militia" isn't in the second amendment?

and you know very well the term doesn't mean what you say. although i do admit to appreciating the bit of creativity.

even heller doesn't say what you're asserting, btw.

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:45 PM
Bush operated on fear.

color coded fear

So what?

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:46 PM
its not the second amendment its the bad gun laws

WHAT 'bad gun laws'?

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:47 PM
or lack thereof....

Examples?

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:49 PM
If you read the whole thing you'll find the words "well regulated" in there. Regulations take form as laws....

NOT what well regulated means.

zelmo1234
04-11-2013, 07:51 PM
9/11. really? Please. That was a failure of many things including airport security and Bush's failure to stay current with his briefings....

As for Sandy Hook, better background checks and if an extension in 2004 of the 1994 assault weapon ban had been passed, the mother would not have been able to legally (as she had) bought the ar-15.

I've already stated that being linited to a 10 round clip would have slowed the reload process.

First the 1994 ban did not prevent the selling of any of the millions of AR-15's that were already on the market before the ban, so we can't say for sure that she would not have been able to buy one legally!

Rugar was making the Ranch rifle, that does the exact same thing and was legal the entier time so it is likely that she would have purchased that, instead, No difference in the guns function, just the look!

So lets play ball and say that she could not in fact have found either one of those guns. That would have let the shotgun and the pistols. Both of which at short range would have put a lot bigger holes in the kids!

I wish you lived closer, because I don't think you are a bad fellow you just know nothing about firearms, and you are getting sucked in!

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:53 PM
9/11. really? Please. That was a failure of many things including airport security and Bush's failure to stay current with his briefings....

As for Sandy Hook, better background checks and if an extension in 2004 of the 1994 assault weapon ban had been passed, the mother would not have been able to legally (as she had) bought the ar-15.

I've already stated that being linited to a 10 round clip would have slowed the reload process.

Bush kept up with briefings....that old lie won't wash

10 round MAGAZINES (not 'clips') didn't stop eric harris at columbine

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:56 PM
more blind denialist gun worship....

People don't 'worship' guns

stop the hyperbole.

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:58 PM
so that isn't a good way for them to get guns?

No.

BB-35
04-11-2013, 07:59 PM
calm down, zelmo. you're head's going to explode!

are you claiming that the term "well-regulated militia" isn't in the second amendment?

and you know very well the term doesn't mean what you say. although i do admit to appreciating the bit of creativity.

even heller doesn't say what you're asserting, btw.

prove it or stop claiming it.

hanger4
04-12-2013, 06:11 AM
In a video released today Al Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn encourages terrorists to use American gun shows to arm themselves for potential Mumbai-style attacks (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-alert-continues-nypd-holds-drill-prep-mumbai/story?id=11879452). Gadahn's video laid out a new tactic for Al Qaeda to continue their murderous terrorist agenda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o):



At gun shows buyers can purchase guns from private sellers without passing a background check. An investigation by the City of New York showed that even buyers that identified themselves as people who "probably couldn't pass a background check (http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201101310006)" were able to purchase guns at gun shows. The investigation also showed the wide variety of guns available at gun shows.



Change has come to America :grin:

Wow, Al Qaeda lies about "fully automatic" rifles

and Cigar can't see it.

jillian
04-12-2013, 10:12 AM
prove it or stop claiming it.

prove what?

that you aren't capable of reading heller?

ok. i believe you.

nic34
04-12-2013, 10:16 AM
Bush kept up with briefings....that old lie won't wash

Your revisionist bs don't wash.....

nic34
04-12-2013, 10:17 AM
10 round MAGAZINES (not 'clips') didn't stop eric harris at columbine

Prove it.

But neither did armed security at the school.... that idea has been debunked....

Mainecoons
04-12-2013, 10:30 AM
Prove what, genius? That Harris did just fine killing people with 10 round magazines?

Or that he used 10 round magazines? That last one is easy except for those who don't know how to look stuff up before they post:

http://www.nycrimecommission.org/initiative1-shootings.php

See Columbine





WEAPONS
Savage Springfield 67H 12-gauge pump-action shotgun, Savage Stevens 311D 12-gauge sawed-off shotgun, Hi-Point 995 9mm semiautomatic rifle, INTRATEC TEC-DC9 9mm semiautomatic pistol, and thirteen 10-round magazines, one 52-, one 32-, one 28-round large capacity ammunition magazines. Harris and Klebold illegally acquired the shotguns and Hi-Point rifle through a "straw purchase" (a transaction in which a legal buyer makes a purchase for someone who cannot legally purchase the firearm). Their friend, Robyn Anderson, purchased the three firearms at the Tanner Gun Show from unlicensed sellers in December of 1998. A pizza shop employee, Mark Manes, illegally sold them the INTRATEC TEC-DC9.

BB-35
04-12-2013, 12:02 PM
Your revisionist bs don't wash.....

REad the PDB again...they had over 70 investigations ongoing concerning Al Qaida

BB-35
04-12-2013, 12:09 PM
Prove it.

But neither did armed security at the school.... that idea has been debunked....

The armed security officer was in another parking lot when the shooting started,he in fact traded fire with kliebold and harris allowing some students time to escape

Agravan
04-12-2013, 01:30 PM
9/11. really? Please. That was a failure of many things including airport security and Bush's failure to stay current with his briefings....

As for Sandy Hook, better background checks and if an extension in 2004 of the 1994 assault weapon ban had been passed, the mother would not have been able to legally (as she had) bought the ar-15.

I've already stated that being linited to a 10 round clip would have slowed the reload process.

Nic, the "assault weapons ban" only prevented you from buying rifles with certain military characteristics, such as a bayonet lug. AR15s during that era were manufactured without the lug, thereby making them legal for sale. I bought one during this era. Do you think a lack of a bayonet lug would have prevented Sandy Hook?

hanger4
04-12-2013, 03:31 PM
Prove it.

But neither did armed security at the school.... that idea has been debunked....

If you believe 10 round magazines could or would have saved 1 or 2 lives at Sandy Hook

then why can't you believe the armed guards at Columbine didn't prevent even more death ??

Private Pickle
04-12-2013, 04:22 PM
If you believe 10 round magazines could or would have saved 1 or 2 lives at Sandy Hook

then why can't you believe the armed guards at Columbine didn't prevent even more death ??

For the same reason they think having lower capacity magazines would have made a difference... They have no idea...

This isn't about logic or actually dealing with the real issues...this is about an agenda that has been around for decades and that is to regulate guns out of existence.

simpsonofpg
04-16-2013, 06:14 PM
I think that this just shows how smart they are and how our gun laws are flawed. Anyone buying a gun anywhere should have to be checked and if you are caught you go to jail.