View Full Version : Polls Plummet For Senators Who Voted No On Gun Background Checks
Cigar
04-29-2013, 02:16 PM
Anyone who doubted that senators could suffer political fallout for their opposition to expanding background checks on gun buyers may want to talk to Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ).
The Arizona Republican who took office in January was one of five senators whose popularity at home has declined in the wake of their votes against the gun bill, according to a survey released Monday from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling.http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_BackgroundChecks_429.pdf The measure, which was co-authored by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), fizzled in the Senate earlier this month despite polls showing staggering public support for strengthening background checks.
The backlash appears to be the harshest for Flake, whose standing in Arizona cratered following his “no” vote on background checks. With an approval rating of 32 percent, Flake is already among the least popular senators in the country, according to PPP. Fifty-one percent of Arizona voters said they disapprove of Flake, while a majority of 52 percent said that his opposition to the gun legislation makes them less likely to vote for him in the future. Moreover, a plurality of 45 percent of Arizona voters said they trust Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who was one of only four Republicans to support the measure, more than Flake on guns.
Flake’s vote drew even more scrutiny last week after the New York Daily News unearthed a letter he sent to the mother of a shooting victim in which he pledged to support stronger background checks.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/poll-backlash-senators-background-checks.php
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nic34
04-29-2013, 02:19 PM
They should get together and take over....
keymanjim
04-29-2013, 02:25 PM
Good old PPP. The polling center that once asked if obama or Romney deserved more credit for killing binladen.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/keymanjim/avatar4325_1.gif
Chris
04-29-2013, 02:32 PM
29 Republicans and two Democrats opposed the bill, not just 5.
jillian
04-29-2013, 02:36 PM
Good old PPP. The polling center that once asked if obama or Romney deserved more credit for killing binladen.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/keymanjim/avatar4325_1.gif
ppp was mostly correct re the presidential election.
or should we be looking at rove's fake polls?
keymanjim
04-29-2013, 02:43 PM
ppp was mostly correct re the presidential election.
or should we be looking at rove's fake polls?
Did they predict obama winning the election or the massive voter fraud that got him put back in?
bladimz
04-29-2013, 03:45 PM
Did they predict obama winning the election or the massive voter fraud that got him put back in?
<Yep. Romney was the clear choice of Joe America. Everyone was clamoring for Romney and Ryan. It was only because of the "massive" voter fraud that Obama was re-elected. Like there was no voter fraud via the GOP.>
Ask the average american; Romney never had a chance, especially after his 47% nonsense.
Common
04-29-2013, 04:38 PM
Gallup poll as of today 65% of americans are for Background checks 29% were not
Sixty-five percent of Americans say the U.S. Senate should have passed the measure that would have expanded background checks for gun purchases, while 29% agree with the Senate's failure to pass the measure.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/162083/americans-wanted-gun-background-checks-pass-senate.aspx
Americans have short memories the drop in favorability for those that voted against it wont last long
Chris
04-29-2013, 04:44 PM
When did law become a popularity contest?
keymanjim
04-29-2013, 04:48 PM
<Yep. Romney was the clear choice of Joe America. Everyone was clamoring for Romney and Ryan. It was only because of the "massive" voter fraud that Obama was re-elected. Like there was no voter fraud via the GOP.>
Ask the average american; Romney never had a chance, especially after his 47% nonsense.
What kind of country have we become when a man is hated for telling the truth and another is rewarded for outright lying?
patrickt
04-29-2013, 04:54 PM
ppp was mostly correct re the presidential election.
or should we be looking at rove's fake polls?
Nice diversion, Jillian. Are you going to start a thread on Rove's fake polls?
Greenridgeman
04-29-2013, 04:55 PM
What kind of country have we become when a man is hated for telling the truth and another is rewarded for outright lying?
American Idol Nation is an obamanation, I tell you.
Have you checked in on CNN and it's softening of the image of the surviving Boston Bomb Boy? Poor thing only has a 10'x10' cell, and, gasp, part of that is taken up by a BED.
Oh the horror of it all.
This guy will be like the Justin Bieber of terror when its over.
Greenridgeman
04-29-2013, 04:56 PM
Gallup poll as of today 65% of americans are for Background checks 29% were not
Sixty-five percent of Americans say the U.S. Senate should have passed the measure that would have expanded background checks for gun purchases, while 29% agree with the Senate's failure to pass the measure.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/162083/americans-wanted-gun-background-checks-pass-senate.aspx
Americans have short memories the drop in favorability for those that voted against it wont last long
Why won't any critic of the bill dying post the actual bill?
Afraid of something?
Common
04-29-2013, 05:03 PM
Why won't any critic of the bill dying post the actual bill?
Afraid of something?
Im not sure of what youre saying Greeny the poll is about how americans view background checks as of today after the bill failed. I didnt make any statements or claims.
Greenridgeman
04-29-2013, 05:18 PM
Im not sure of what youre saying Greeny the poll is about how americans view background checks as of today after the bill failed. I didnt make any statements or claims.
Are extending current background checks, and redefining mental illness and patient's rights, the same thing?
When are you going to post the bill?
Hiding some things?
bladimz
04-29-2013, 05:36 PM
What kind of country have we become when a man is hated for telling the truth and another is rewarded for outright lying?We have become a nation of Americans. People just like any other people of any other time being manipulated by big power/money/government leaders since the beginning of civilization.
bladimz
04-29-2013, 05:39 PM
Why won't any critic of the bill dying post the actual bill?
Afraid of something?
http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/649/text
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bladimz
04-29-2013, 05:40 PM
Are extending current background checks, and redefining mental illness and patient's rights, the same thing?
When are you going to post the bill?
Hiding some things?Posted.
Have at it.
Chris
04-29-2013, 05:46 PM
Posted.
Have at it.
Only a small portion of it has to do with background checks.
Dr. Who
04-29-2013, 05:51 PM
When did law become a popularity contest?
Just another example of corruption amongst the elected representatives - once again pandering to special interests.
Chris
04-29-2013, 05:53 PM
Just another example of corruption amongst the elected representatives - once again pandering to special interests.
Huh? THis would be pandering to ephemeral popular opinion.
Dr. Who
04-29-2013, 06:29 PM
Huh? THis would be pandering to ephemeral popular opinion.
Voting is just as ephemeral. What is voting but a popular opinion poll after all.
Chris
04-29-2013, 06:46 PM
Voting is just as ephemeral. What is voting but a popular opinion poll after all.
Voting is once every few years. We're not a direct democracy, or majoritarian democracy.
simpsonofpg
04-29-2013, 07:23 PM
<Yep. Romney was the clear choice of Joe America. Everyone was clamoring for Romney and Ryan. It was only because of the "massive" voter fraud that Obama was re-elected. Like there was no voter fraud via the GOP.>
Ask the average american; Romney never had a chance, especially after his 47% nonsense.
American just couldn't handle the truth. I didn't like Romney very much but compared to Obama he looked pretty good. If Obama can get some more foreigner here to vote for him he might run for a 3rd term.
Common
04-29-2013, 08:07 PM
When did law become a popularity contest?
Ever since the beginning of Polling and Politicians wanting to get re elected. Popularity "MOST" of the time has everything to do with the outcome.
Chris
04-29-2013, 08:09 PM
Ever since the beginning of Polling and Politicians wanting to get re elected. Popularity "MOST" of the time has everything to do with the outcome.
Yes, for pols who are only concerned with getting re-elected rather than doing their sworn jobs.
Cigar
04-29-2013, 09:04 PM
I love it :grin:
Common
04-29-2013, 09:31 PM
Yes, for pols who are only concerned with getting re-elected rather than doing their sworn jobs.
Got news for ya they are ALL more concerned with getting re elected than anything else and that goes for all the teaparty far righters.
While its true some on both sides of the aisle are in such partisan districts that they are safe, but you can believe this, there is not one senator or congressperson that does not poll their district on hot button issues to see where the wind is blowing.
BB-35
04-29-2013, 11:36 PM
They should get together and take over....
How exactly would universal background checks be enforced?
keymanjim
04-29-2013, 11:46 PM
How exactly would universal background checks be enforced?
Well, first you will apply for a gun permit. Then they will declare that the desire to own a gun is a mental illness and cause to deny your application.
Ivan88
04-30-2013, 04:55 AM
Polls & democracy are a rigged game
2538
The real America is not about mob rule that overthrows righteousness.
It is not about honoring covetous deluded mobs.
The Law of Love embodied in the 10 Commandments is not to be subjected to mob - democratic opinion & lusts.
Chris
04-30-2013, 10:27 AM
Got news for ya they are ALL more concerned with getting re elected than anything else and that goes for all the teaparty far righters.
While its true some on both sides of the aisle are in such partisan districts that they are safe, but you can believe this, there is not one senator or congressperson that does not poll their district on hot button issues to see where the wind is blowing.
How is that news to me when it's what I said?
And the "independent" slams only the right again.
Ransom
04-30-2013, 10:32 AM
Cigar's source here talking points.com says everything that needs to be said here.
Moving on, amateur talking point making over for the day.
Cigar
04-30-2013, 10:34 AM
Cigar's source here talking points.com says everything that needs to be said here.
Moving on, amateur talking point making over for the day.
Yea you move along ... it's not like you have anything to add. :wink:
jillian
04-30-2013, 11:21 AM
Yea you move along ... it's not like you have anything to add. :wink:
does it ever?
Cigar
04-30-2013, 12:27 PM
There's no denying gravity ... but please, go ahead and deny the source PPP. :)
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130420-heres-what-you-get-for-voting-against-universal-background-checks.jpg
Chris
04-30-2013, 12:59 PM
Yea you move along ... it's not like you have anything to add. :wink:
And you're adding what to the discussion?
Chris
04-30-2013, 01:00 PM
There's no denying gravity ... but please, go ahead and deny the source PPP. :)
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130420-heres-what-you-get-for-voting-against-universal-background-checks.jpg
Did you notice the dates?
Oops.
Cigar
04-30-2013, 01:09 PM
Did you notice the dates?
Oops.
April 29, 2013, 12:11 PM
Anyone who doubted that senators could suffer political fallout for their opposition to expanding background checks on gun buyers may want to talk to Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ).
The Arizona Republican who took office in January was one of five senators whose popularity at home has declined in the wake of their votes against the gun bill, according to a survey released Monday from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_BackgroundChecks_429.pdf). The measure, which was co-authored by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), fizzled in the Senate earlier this month despite polls showing staggering public support for strengthening background checks.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/poll-backlash-senators-background-checks.php?ref=fpa
Chris
04-30-2013, 01:12 PM
April 29, 2013, 12:11 PM
Anyone who doubted that senators could suffer political fallout for their opposition to expanding background checks on gun buyers may want to talk to Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ).
The Arizona Republican who took office in January was one of five senators whose popularity at home has declined in the wake of their votes against the gun bill, according to a survey released Monday from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_BackgroundChecks_429.pdf). The measure, which was co-authored by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), fizzled in the Senate earlier this month despite polls showing staggering public support for strengthening background checks.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/poll-backlash-senators-background-checks.php?ref=fpa
April 29, 2013, 12:11 PM
Each of the dates in your posted image predates that. Only in a quantum universe could effect come before cause.
Bigred1cav
04-30-2013, 02:55 PM
When did law become a popularity contest?
WHen the right wing defends ignoring by the right wing of the 5th amendment
Chris
04-30-2013, 03:07 PM
WHen the right wing defends ignoring by the right wing of the 5th amendment
The right wing of the 5th amendment, ooookay. :icon_scratch:
zelmo1234
04-30-2013, 03:50 PM
April 29, 2013, 12:11 PM
Anyone who doubted that senators could suffer political fallout for their opposition to expanding background checks on gun buyers may want to talk to Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ).
The Arizona Republican who took office in January was one of five senators whose popularity at home has declined in the wake of their votes against the gun bill, according to a survey released Monday from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_BackgroundChecks_429.pdf). The measure, which was co-authored by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA), fizzled in the Senate earlier this month despite polls showing staggering public support for strengthening background checks.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/poll-backlash-senators-background-checks.php?ref=fpa
They had better ahve long memories, because Jeff will not have to run again until 2018? That six year term thing is a bitch!
zelmo1234
04-30-2013, 03:54 PM
There's no denying gravity ... but please, go ahead and deny the source PPP. :)
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130420-heres-what-you-get-for-voting-against-universal-background-checks.jpg
This should get your goat Cigar!
The only one on your list up for re election is the Democrat!!!!!
And he is likely to loose because had he not been running against a Senator in a trial for breaking the law, Alaska is Republican!
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=30
Looks like a for sure pick up for the Republicans, because of the Back Ground Check law!!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!!
Ransom
04-30-2013, 04:08 PM
Yea you move along ... it's not like you have anything to add. :wink:
I've nothing to add. Here.
I've but yet to subtract...in explaining your thread start here is amateur talking points rather than substance. You're a xerox machine, they spew it out, you regurgitate.
There's nothing here to add to, there never was anything here to begin with.
Moving on.
Chris
04-30-2013, 04:22 PM
This should get your goat Cigar!
The only one on your list up for re election is the Democrat!!!!!
And he is likely to loose because had he not been running against a Senator in a trial for breaking the law, Alaska is Republican!
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=30
Looks like a for sure pick up for the Republicans, because of the Back Ground Check law!!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!!
So it's not only outdated but irrelevant? Cigar, do your homework, man!
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