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Cigar
04-30-2013, 11:32 AM
AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 29 April 2013

Dow Jones 14,818.75 +106.20 (0.72%)
S&P 500 1,593.61 +11.37 (0.72%)
Nasdaq 3,307.02 +27.76 (0.85%)


10 Year 1.67% +0.02 (1.21%)
30 Year 2.89% +0.03 (1.05%)


I guess this explains why The GOP hasn't talked about the Stock Market since the summer of 2009. :)

Peter1469
04-30-2013, 11:56 AM
The Fed is pumping $85B per month into the markets. Of course they are going up.

What happens when that money stops coming?

Bernanke claims that a scheduling conflict will not allow him to attend this year's economic summit at Jackson Hole (the biggest economic summit). That is like running Hamlet, without anyone playing Hamlet....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/04/22/bernanke-plans-jackson-hole/2105277/

Bernanke is not called Helicopter Ben for nothing (he is pushing the QE programs). Whoever takes over as chairman of the Fed is screwed.

Cigar
04-30-2013, 12:44 PM
... and ME ... personally and my Stocks agree it's a Beautiful thing.

What you chose to do is your business.

Common
04-30-2013, 01:53 PM
The Fed is pumping $85B per month into the markets. Of course they are going up.

What happens when that money stops coming?

Bernanke claims that a scheduling conflict will not allow him to attend this year's economic summit at Jackson Hole (the biggest economic summit). That is like running Hamlet, without anyone playing Hamlet....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/04/22/bernanke-plans-jackson-hole/2105277/

Bernanke is not called Helicopter Ben for nothing (he is pushing the QE programs). Whoever takes over as chairman of the Fed is screwed.

Peter ive been hearing that for 6 yrs now when the fed stops pumping money in the market its going to bust while it keeps going up. The rich are not going to allow another great depression where they lost their money, they want to get the rest of ours first. :)
Ill believe the market will crash only when I actually see it.

zelmo1234
04-30-2013, 02:01 PM
Peter ive been hearing that for 6 yrs now when the fed stops pumping money in the market its going to bust while it keeps going up. The rich are not going to allow another great depression where they lost their money, they want to get the rest of ours first. :)
Ill believe the market will crash only when I actually see it.

Well if you actually watch people that have a lot of money to invest they tend not to buy high, and sell low! Think of how long the market has been between 13.9 and 14.7 it goes up and down, back and forth!

When Stocks went down in 07 / 08! the wealthy bought, It was a fire Sale! and they made a ton of money!

They also are buying a lot of forclosuers and tax sale homes! because they have the cash and prices are low and just begining to rise!

Cigar posted that Home prices are up almost 10% and if it stays like that for another 7 years they will be back to pre bust levles.

Even Gold? When the market was crashing the wealthy had already diversified! and they road the gold up and watched the market go down and invested in both at the bottom end!

I find that most of the time when others are selling I am buying and when others are in a buying mode I am usually selling!

Bigred1cav
04-30-2013, 02:58 PM
How the hell did a socialist president allow this capitalistic event?

Chris
04-30-2013, 03:02 PM
How the hell did a socialist president allow this capitalistic event?

True socialism died, red, when the socialists realized Marx was wrong about the collapse of capitalism. They then all but a few die-hards became social democrats, who would instead manage capitalism to their agendas.


The question to ask is why the hell the recovery is taking so damned long. It's just getting back to what it was 10 years ago. What, a halfway point?

My answer to this question is government (mis)management of the economy.

Bigred1cav
04-30-2013, 03:07 PM
Recovery taking so long? Because the gop is fighting tooth and nail to prevent any progress it is there position that negro does not belong living in a white house or having a legacy of progress not punishment and anguish for the middle class. A right wing koch brothers agenda of murdering the middle class and making the US workers competitive with .50 an hour asian workers. Work for nothing exist, get sick and die the gop right wing visio for the USA.



True socialism died, red, when the socialists realized Marx was wrong about the collapse of capitalism. They then all but a few die-hards became social democrats, who would instead manage capitalism to their agendas.


The question to ask is why the hell the recovery is taking so damned long. It's just getting back to what it was 10 years ago. What, a halfway point?

My answer to this question is government (mis)management of the economy.

Chris
04-30-2013, 03:27 PM
Recovery taking so long? Because the gop is fighting tooth and nail to prevent any progress it is there position that negro does not belong living in a white house or having a legacy of progress not punishment and anguish for the middle class. A right wing koch brothers agenda of murdering the middle class and making the US workers competitive with .50 an hour asian workers. Work for nothing exist, get sick and die the gop right wing visio for the USA.


Because the gop is fighting tooth and nail to prevent any progress it is there position that negro does not belong living in a white house or having a legacy of progress not punishment and anguish for the middle class.

Progressive progress and free market recovery are antithetical, red, nor does your bigoted remark. The recovery is taking long because of the Keynesian policies adopted by Bush and carried on by Obama. No point addressing the rest of your babble since none of it addresses the slow economic recovery we're seeing.

zelmo1234
04-30-2013, 03:31 PM
Recovery taking so long? Because the gop is fighting tooth and nail to prevent any progress it is there position that negro does not belong living in a white house or having a legacy of progress not punishment and anguish for the middle class. A right wing koch brothers agenda of murdering the middle class and making the US workers competitive with .50 an hour asian workers. Work for nothing exist, get sick and die the gop right wing visio for the USA.

YEAH! a full triple workd score,

Using Raciest when the facts are against you! Adding the Koch Brothers for a double word score, and reminding people that Republicans want people to die for the triple world score of 30 liberal browney points!

Now the policies of Obamacare, taxations, green energy subsidies, and Opressive regulations it was His white side that these policies came from :)

Micketto
04-30-2013, 03:32 PM
Recovery taking so long? Because the gop is fighting tooth and nail to prevent any progress

So what you're saying is that Obama is weak and the GOP pwns him.

Can't argue with that.

Peter1469
04-30-2013, 04:33 PM
Peter ive been hearing that for 6 yrs now when the fed stops pumping money in the market its going to bust while it keeps going up. The rich are not going to allow another great depression where they lost their money, they want to get the rest of ours first. :)
Ill believe the market will crash only when I actually see it.

But we haven't stopped pumping money into the market..., that is my point. Wait until that happens.

simpsonofpg
04-30-2013, 07:03 PM
After reading the post to this thread one thing is clear. the reason for this whole deal is us. We are all blaming each other just like congress does. We just can seem to find the right combination. I still think gold in good. I can still remember $30/oz, it

Chris
04-30-2013, 07:06 PM
After reading the post to this thread one thing is clear. the reason for this whole deal is us. We are all blaming each other just like congress does. We just can seem to find the right combination. I still think gold in good. I can still remember $30/oz, it

Indeed we allow it if not participate in it.


http://i.snag.gy/Df2vC.jpg


Sometimes it's just easier to complain.

zelmo1234
04-30-2013, 07:17 PM
It is not that we are blaming eachother, but we are? coming at things from different points!

Those on the Liberal / Progressive Side really beleive in government and don't think that they ever have to worry about a government that is going to opress them!

conservatives really beleive that personel responsibilty is the best possble answer to everything! And have a distrust of government as they have seen power corupt people and governments!

The govenrment is giving money to the banks and they are investing in the markets because there is no money in making loans, and the regulations have not changed so they have to be very careful until they actually have a number of mortgages from low income that actually have a shot at paying them back! then they can make there regular loans!

psyical gold, is a great hedge against inflation and so is Silver? but it is a risky investment! Realestate is still under valued, but that time is running short! The market is hot, until the banks can loan that miney at reasonable interest then not only with the governemnt be forced to stop investing, but the banks will be taking that money out of the market!

It is likely to over correct , and when it nears bottom that is the time to buy!

Cigar
05-08-2013, 08:30 AM
LONG and STRONG !

http://media.cagle.com/38/2013/05/07/131407_600.jpg
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/php/galleries/image.php/1955/1/1.jpg

Another day, another record?
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130508074026-sp-500-futures-743-620xa.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OA_kdeGc4e0/Tzc4bVBtDpI/AAAAAAAADCI/GFEXjUNbFu4/s1600/495491-boy-with-fingers-inb-ears.jpg

Chris
05-08-2013, 08:50 AM
Sloooooooooow recovery.

You may now remove your fingers from your ears.

keymanjim
05-08-2013, 09:38 AM
LONG and STRONG !




Another day, another record?





The DOW closes around 9000 in 2009 dollars. Why are you proud of this?

Cigar
05-08-2013, 11:56 AM
AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 7 May 2013

Dow Jones 15,056.20 +87.31 (0.58%)
S&P 500 1,625.96 +8.46 (0.52%)
Nasdaq 3,396.63 +3.66 (0.11%)


10 Year 1.78% 0.00 (0.00%)
30 Year 2.99% 0.00 (0.00%)


Would you believe some people see a problem with these numbers ... ? :tongue:

Well if you're not in the game ... you're called a Spectator :grin:

Chris
05-08-2013, 12:26 PM
Sloooooooooow recovery.

BillyBob
05-08-2013, 12:31 PM
Imagine how much better things would be if we didn't have an economy destroying fascist in the White House.

Cigar
05-08-2013, 12:32 PM
Sloooooooooow recovery.



Isn't that what the GOP thought would get them The White House back :toothy9:

Cigar
05-08-2013, 12:34 PM
Imagine how much better things would be if we didn't have an economy destroying fascist in the White House.



Good thing you didn't lose your imagination ... just the White House ... twice ... Back-to-Back-Black :grin:

keymanjim
05-08-2013, 01:13 PM
Good thing you didn't lose your imagination ... just the White House ... twice ... Back-to-Back-Black :grin:
I guess it doesn't bother you that the fist black president is the single most incompetent one also.

simpsonofpg
05-08-2013, 01:46 PM
I got to say my IRA is doing really well. There is no Porche in my future but it is much better than 4 years ago. I am not sure who to blame or brag about, either way I am happy with that part of my life. Unless we get control of spending vs revenue we are still in trouble. I think the DOW is a place to gamble not invest.

nic34
05-08-2013, 01:53 PM
I guess it doesn't bother you that the fist black president is the single most incompetent one also.

We should have voted for the out of business pizza guy instead?

Greenridgeman
05-08-2013, 01:56 PM
AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 7 May 2013

Dow Jones 15,056.20 +87.31 (0.58%)
S&P 500 1,625.96 +8.46 (0.52%)
Nasdaq 3,396.63 +3.66 (0.11%)


10 Year 1.78% 0.00 (0.00%)
30 Year 2.99% 0.00 (0.00%)


Would you believe some people see a problem with these numbers ... ? :tongue:

Well if you're not in the game ... you're called a Spectator :grin:


Obama has taken care of his Wall Street masters.

My only regret, I didn't put my money back in a few months earlier.

That said, my funds are doing quite well as Obama pays back his backers.

nic34
05-08-2013, 02:02 PM
Obama has taken care of his Wall Street masters.

My only regret, I didn't put my money back in a few months earlier.

That said, my funds are doing quite well as Obama pays back his backers.
Wall Street overwhelmingly backs Romney

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/06/wall-street-overwhelmingly-backs-romney/

keymanjim
05-08-2013, 02:04 PM
We should have voted for the out of business pizza guy instead?
Yes.

Now, who are you talking about?

nic34
05-08-2013, 02:08 PM
Need glasses there jim?

keymanjim
05-08-2013, 02:16 PM
Need glasses there jim?
Yes.

Now, who are you talking about?

Chris
05-08-2013, 02:31 PM
We should have voted for the out of business pizza guy instead?

That wouldn't have made any difference they both clones of Bush economic-wise.

Peter1469
05-08-2013, 03:46 PM
The DOW is high because of QE 3 and 4. The fundamentals of the economy are weak.

But if it makes you feel better, go ahead and invest all your cash in the DOW (while it is high). :wink:

BillyBob
05-08-2013, 04:31 PM
I guess it doesn't bother you that the fist black president is the single most incompetent one also.

Obama gets a pass. Being black, nobody expected much from him in the first place. Bill Clinton even remarked to other dems that in any other situation, Obama would be serving them coffee.