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Agravan
05-01-2013, 09:08 AM
Radical Christianity vs. Radical IslamBy Trevor Thomas (http://www.americanthinker.com/trevor_thomas/)

Finally, Bill Maher got something right. Following the Boston bombings, Maher responded to Brian Levy, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino (a great example of needed reforms in public higher education), "[T]here's only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There's only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith."

There you have it. Even a flaming atheist can recognize the difference between a religion of peace and one full of bloodlust. The Tsarnaevs are just the most recent example of the tragic bitter fruit (http://www.centerforajustsociety.org/2010/09/25/30108/cjs-forum/the-fruit-of-islam/) produced by radical Islamists. To further Maher's point, consider and contrast the efforts of radical Islamists with those of radical Christians.

Just what is a "radical Christian"? Some might call them (with apologies to DC Talk (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/dc+talk/jesus+freak_20037735.html)) "Jesus Freaks." Examples are all around us, and most are virtually unknown outside their home towns (mainly because they don't make the news by killing people). They plant churches, feed the poor, heal the sick; they open orphanages and pregnancy resource centers; they visit prisoners and deliver the oppressed; in other words, they have sold themselves out to be the hands and feet of the One they worship.

Some popular examples would include men like the late Jim Elliot, who served and evangelized the Quechua Indians, even though it cost him his life. Countless Christians have forsaken the comforts of Western civilization to go and fulfill the call of Christ. In other words, Christianity exports its radicals to bring life and hope, while much of Islam does so to bring death and despair.

Radical Christian and Habitat for Humanity founder Millard Fuller and his wife Linda started an organization "that has helped build or repair more than 600,000 houses and served more than 3 million people around the world." The organization began in 1968, and the Fullers moved to Mbandaka, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo) in 1973 to spread their mission of affordable housing to developing countries.

Meanwhile, Muslims in Pakistan recently burned (http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslims-burn-over-150-christian-homes-and-2-churches/) nearly 200 Christian homes over the alleged blasphemy against Muhammad by a Christian sanitation worker. Coptic Christians continue to suffer (http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/islams-collective-punishment-of-christians/) under the "reforms" taking place in Egypt. The Coptic minority have been murdered and seen their homes, businesses, and churches looted and burned.

Radical Christians build hospitals. Radical Muslims seek to fill them up. Christians have led the world in caring for the sick and dying among us. As Virginia Health Information (http://www.vhi.org/hguide_beginning.asp) notes, "[s]ome of the earliest hospitals existed in ancient Rome in 100 BC as important centers for the emergency care of sick and wounded soldiers. With the spread of Christianity, hospitals grew as part of the church's mission and became part of the community as they tended to health care not only for soldiers but also for all who needed it."

The first hospital in North America, the Hospital de Jesus Nazareno, was founded by CortÚs. The first hospital in the U.S, Pennsylvania Hospital, was founded by a Quaker, Dr. Thomas Bond (with the aid of Benjamin Franklin). The Catholic Church alone operates over 1,100 hospitals and long-term health care facilities in the U.S. What's more, a 2010 study (http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/08/15/u-s-church-run-hospitals-provide-higher-quality-care-thomson-reuters-study/) revealed that Christian hospitals in the U.S. outperform all others.

Radical Christians build schools. The world's first university, birthed in 1088, was The University of Bologna in Italy. It was founded to teach canon (church) law. The second-oldest university, The University of Paris, grew out of the cathedral schools of Notre-Dame and soon became a great center for Christian orthodox studies. Dr. Alvin J. Schmidt, in his book Under the Influence: How Christianity Transformed Civilization, points out that every college established in colonial America, except the University of Pennsylvania, was founded by some denomination of Christianity. He adds that, preceding the Civil War, 92 percent of the 182 colleges and universities in the U.S. were established by some branch of the church.

Radical Muslims attack young girls who merely want an education. In 2012, Taliban forces in Afghanistan were responsible (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/17/afghan-school-girls-suffer-alleged-poisoning/) for what was described as "an intentional act to poison schoolgirls." More than 150 girls in northeastern Afghanistan suffered in the attack. "Every day [in fact, just the other day (http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-girls-school-feared-hit-poison-gas-172831514.html)], you hear that somebody's thrown acid at a girl's face ... or they poison their water," moaned the founder of a girls school outside Kabul.

According to the U.N., there were nearly 200 attacks on schools and hospitals in Afghanistan in 2011. In addition, radical Islamists also attack (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Apr-11/213307-islamists-attack-tunisia-school-over-ban.ashx#axzz2RRIKt6Zm) administrators who don't conform to their ideas of what constitutes a proper education. According to Reuters, "[r]adical Muslims burst into a Tunisian school ... and assaulted [nearly killing] its chief after he barred entry to a teenage girl wearing a niqab."

Car bombs detonated by Muslim radicals have killed dozens in Somalia and Nigeria this year alone. Just last month, Muslim suicide bombers in Pakistan and Syria killed well over 100 people. Whether it's bombing, burning, beheading, hacking, poisoning, or shooting, the list (http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/latest-from-the-religion-of-peace/) of Muslim violence is long and obscene.

More: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2013/04/radical_christianity_vs_radical_islam.html

TheDictator
05-01-2013, 10:22 AM
Nice post.

Chris
05-01-2013, 01:23 PM
On my view both Radical Christianity, Christianism, and Radical islam, Islamism, exist. Dominionism is an example of Christianism. Both are politicizations of religions that aim to mix politics and religion, the fatal opening of "a gap in the hedge or wall of Separation between the Garden of the Church and the Wilderness of the world" (Roger Williams). Both Christianist and Islamist views are minority ones--I hear 2% of Muslims are Islamists, I doubt anywhere near that percentage of Christians are Christianists, and I doubt many have heard the word.

Christianist are much, much less violent than Islamists.There's no comparison. One was changed by the Enlightenment, one needs to be.

Greenridgeman
05-01-2013, 01:24 PM
Radical Christianity vs. Radical Islam

By Trevor Thomas (http://www.americanthinker.com/trevor_thomas/)

Finally, Bill Maher got something right. Following the Boston bombings, Maher responded to Brian Levy, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino (a great example of needed reforms in public higher education), "[T]here's only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There's only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith."

There you have it. Even a flaming atheist can recognize the difference between a religion of peace and one full of bloodlust. The Tsarnaevs are just the most recent example of the tragic bitter fruit (http://www.centerforajustsociety.org/2010/09/25/30108/cjs-forum/the-fruit-of-islam/) produced by radical Islamists. To further Maher's point, consider and contrast the efforts of radical Islamists with those of radical Christians.

Just what is a "radical Christian"? Some might call them (with apologies to DC Talk (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/dc+talk/jesus+freak_20037735.html)) "Jesus Freaks." Examples are all around us, and most are virtually unknown outside their home towns (mainly because they don't make the news by killing people). They plant churches, feed the poor, heal the sick; they open orphanages and pregnancy resource centers; they visit prisoners and deliver the oppressed; in other words, they have sold themselves out to be the hands and feet of the One they worship.

Some popular examples would include men like the late Jim Elliot, who served and evangelized the Quechua Indians, even though it cost him his life. Countless Christians have forsaken the comforts of Western civilization to go and fulfill the call of Christ. In other words, Christianity exports its radicals to bring life and hope, while much of Islam does so to bring death and despair.

Radical Christian and Habitat for Humanity founder Millard Fuller and his wife Linda started an organization "that has helped build or repair more than 600,000 houses and served more than 3 million people around the world." The organization began in 1968, and the Fullers moved to Mbandaka, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo) in 1973 to spread their mission of affordable housing to developing countries.

Meanwhile, Muslims in Pakistan recently burned (http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslims-burn-over-150-christian-homes-and-2-churches/) nearly 200 Christian homes over the alleged blasphemy against Muhammad by a Christian sanitation worker. Coptic Christians continue to suffer (http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/islams-collective-punishment-of-christians/) under the "reforms" taking place in Egypt. The Coptic minority have been murdered and seen their homes, businesses, and churches looted and burned.

Radical Christians build hospitals. Radical Muslims seek to fill them up. Christians have led the world in caring for the sick and dying among us. As Virginia Health Information (http://www.vhi.org/hguide_beginning.asp) notes, "[s]ome of the earliest hospitals existed in ancient Rome in 100 BC as important centers for the emergency care of sick and wounded soldiers. With the spread of Christianity, hospitals grew as part of the church's mission and became part of the community as they tended to health care not only for soldiers but also for all who needed it."

The first hospital in North America, the Hospital de Jesus Nazareno, was founded by CortÚs. The first hospital in the U.S, Pennsylvania Hospital, was founded by a Quaker, Dr. Thomas Bond (with the aid of Benjamin Franklin). The Catholic Church alone operates over 1,100 hospitals and long-term health care facilities in the U.S. What's more, a 2010 study (http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/08/15/u-s-church-run-hospitals-provide-higher-quality-care-thomson-reuters-study/) revealed that Christian hospitals in the U.S. outperform all others.

Radical Christians build schools. The world's first university, birthed in 1088, was The University of Bologna in Italy. It was founded to teach canon (church) law. The second-oldest university, The University of Paris, grew out of the cathedral schools of Notre-Dame and soon became a great center for Christian orthodox studies. Dr. Alvin J. Schmidt, in his book Under the Influence: How Christianity Transformed Civilization, points out that every college established in colonial America, except the University of Pennsylvania, was founded by some denomination of Christianity. He adds that, preceding the Civil War, 92 percent of the 182 colleges and universities in the U.S. were established by some branch of the church.

Radical Muslims attack young girls who merely want an education. In 2012, Taliban forces in Afghanistan were responsible (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/17/afghan-school-girls-suffer-alleged-poisoning/) for what was described as "an intentional act to poison schoolgirls." More than 150 girls in northeastern Afghanistan suffered in the attack. "Every day [in fact, just the other day (http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-girls-school-feared-hit-poison-gas-172831514.html)], you hear that somebody's thrown acid at a girl's face ... or they poison their water," moaned the founder of a girls school outside Kabul.

According to the U.N., there were nearly 200 attacks on schools and hospitals in Afghanistan in 2011. In addition, radical Islamists also attack (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Apr-11/213307-islamists-attack-tunisia-school-over-ban.ashx#axzz2RRIKt6Zm) administrators who don't conform to their ideas of what constitutes a proper education. According to Reuters, "[r]adical Muslims burst into a Tunisian school ... and assaulted [nearly killing] its chief after he barred entry to a teenage girl wearing a niqab."

Car bombs detonated by Muslim radicals have killed dozens in Somalia and Nigeria this year alone. Just last month, Muslim suicide bombers in Pakistan and Syria killed well over 100 people. Whether it's bombing, burning, beheading, hacking, poisoning, or shooting, the list (http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/latest-from-the-religion-of-peace/) of Muslim violence is long and obscene.

More: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2013/04/radical_christianity_vs_radical_islam.html




More hate facts.

TheDictator
05-01-2013, 01:41 PM
On my view both Radical Christianity, Christianism, and Radical islam, Islamism, exist. Dominionism is an example of Christianism. Both are politicizations of religions that aim to mix politics and religion, the fatal opening of "a gap in the hedge or wall of Separation between the Garden of the Church and the Wilderness of the world" (Roger Williams). Both Christianist and Islamist views are minority ones--I hear 2% of Muslims are Islamists, I doubt anywhere near that percentage of Christians are Christianists, and I doubt many have heard the word.

Christianist are much, much less violent than Islamists.There's no comparison. One was changed by the Enlightenment, one needs to be.

Could you please give us an example of Christianist? I never came cross this word before.

Chris
05-01-2013, 02:04 PM
Could you please give us an example of Christianist? I never came cross this word before.

From post: "Dominionism is an example of Christianism." Years ago they were going to take over South Carolina. Haven't heard much in a long time.

It's an old word who meaning has changed over the centuries.

TheDictator
05-01-2013, 03:13 PM
Ok, what is this groups goal? and just what have they done to be called radicals like Islamists?

Chris
05-01-2013, 03:23 PM
Ok, what is this groups goal? and just what have they done to be called radicals like Islamists?

As I said, radicalization is done by polticizing religion. They're not as militant but just as politica leaders.

Peter1469
05-01-2013, 03:34 PM
So you aren't in danger of getting your head sawed off with a dull knife by the "Christianists?"

Chris
05-01-2013, 03:48 PM
So you aren't in danger of getting your head sawed off with a dull knife by the "Christianists?"

Right, said that earlier.

Agravan
05-01-2013, 05:25 PM
More hate facts.
Did you even read the article?

Dr. Who
05-01-2013, 07:02 PM
Radical Christianity vs. Radical Islam

By Trevor Thomas (http://www.americanthinker.com/trevor_thomas/)

Finally, Bill Maher got something right. Following the Boston bombings, Maher responded to Brian Levy, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University in San Bernardino (a great example of needed reforms in public higher education), "[T]here's only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There's only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith."

There you have it. Even a flaming atheist can recognize the difference between a religion of peace and one full of bloodlust. The Tsarnaevs are just the most recent example of the tragic bitter fruit (http://www.centerforajustsociety.org/2010/09/25/30108/cjs-forum/the-fruit-of-islam/) produced by radical Islamists. To further Maher's point, consider and contrast the efforts of radical Islamists with those of radical Christians.

Just what is a "radical Christian"? Some might call them (with apologies to DC Talk (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/dc+talk/jesus+freak_20037735.html)) "Jesus Freaks." Examples are all around us, and most are virtually unknown outside their home towns (mainly because they don't make the news by killing people). They plant churches, feed the poor, heal the sick; they open orphanages and pregnancy resource centers; they visit prisoners and deliver the oppressed; in other words, they have sold themselves out to be the hands and feet of the One they worship.

Some popular examples would include men like the late Jim Elliot, who served and evangelized the Quechua Indians, even though it cost him his life. Countless Christians have forsaken the comforts of Western civilization to go and fulfill the call of Christ. In other words, Christianity exports its radicals to bring life and hope, while much of Islam does so to bring death and despair.

Radical Christian and Habitat for Humanity founder Millard Fuller and his wife Linda started an organization "that has helped build or repair more than 600,000 houses and served more than 3 million people around the world." The organization began in 1968, and the Fullers moved to Mbandaka, Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo) in 1973 to spread their mission of affordable housing to developing countries.

Meanwhile, Muslims in Pakistan recently burned (http://www.westernjournalism.com/muslims-burn-over-150-christian-homes-and-2-churches/) nearly 200 Christian homes over the alleged blasphemy against Muhammad by a Christian sanitation worker. Coptic Christians continue to suffer (http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/islams-collective-punishment-of-christians/) under the "reforms" taking place in Egypt. The Coptic minority have been murdered and seen their homes, businesses, and churches looted and burned.

Radical Christians build hospitals. Radical Muslims seek to fill them up. Christians have led the world in caring for the sick and dying among us. As Virginia Health Information (http://www.vhi.org/hguide_beginning.asp) notes, "[s]ome of the earliest hospitals existed in ancient Rome in 100 BC as important centers for the emergency care of sick and wounded soldiers. With the spread of Christianity, hospitals grew as part of the church's mission and became part of the community as they tended to health care not only for soldiers but also for all who needed it."

The first hospital in North America, the Hospital de Jesus Nazareno, was founded by CortÚs. The first hospital in the U.S, Pennsylvania Hospital, was founded by a Quaker, Dr. Thomas Bond (with the aid of Benjamin Franklin). The Catholic Church alone operates over 1,100 hospitals and long-term health care facilities in the U.S. What's more, a 2010 study (http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/08/15/u-s-church-run-hospitals-provide-higher-quality-care-thomson-reuters-study/) revealed that Christian hospitals in the U.S. outperform all others.

Radical Christians build schools. The world's first university, birthed in 1088, was The University of Bologna in Italy. It was founded to teach canon (church) law. The second-oldest university, The University of Paris, grew out of the cathedral schools of Notre-Dame and soon became a great center for Christian orthodox studies. Dr. Alvin J. Schmidt, in his book Under the Influence: How Christianity Transformed Civilization, points out that every college established in colonial America, except the University of Pennsylvania, was founded by some denomination of Christianity. He adds that, preceding the Civil War, 92 percent of the 182 colleges and universities in the U.S. were established by some branch of the church.

Radical Muslims attack young girls who merely want an education. In 2012, Taliban forces in Afghanistan were responsible (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/17/afghan-school-girls-suffer-alleged-poisoning/) for what was described as "an intentional act to poison schoolgirls." More than 150 girls in northeastern Afghanistan suffered in the attack. "Every day [in fact, just the other day (http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-girls-school-feared-hit-poison-gas-172831514.html)], you hear that somebody's thrown acid at a girl's face ... or they poison their water," moaned the founder of a girls school outside Kabul.

According to the U.N., there were nearly 200 attacks on schools and hospitals in Afghanistan in 2011. In addition, radical Islamists also attack (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Apr-11/213307-islamists-attack-tunisia-school-over-ban.ashx#axzz2RRIKt6Zm) administrators who don't conform to their ideas of what constitutes a proper education. According to Reuters, "[r]adical Muslims burst into a Tunisian school ... and assaulted [nearly killing] its chief after he barred entry to a teenage girl wearing a niqab."

Car bombs detonated by Muslim radicals have killed dozens in Somalia and Nigeria this year alone. Just last month, Muslim suicide bombers in Pakistan and Syria killed well over 100 people. Whether it's bombing, burning, beheading, hacking, poisoning, or shooting, the list (http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/latest-from-the-religion-of-peace/) of Muslim violence is long and obscene.

More: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2013/04/radical_christianity_vs_radical_islam.html
Perhaps not as widespread, but there are numerous examples of Christian terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

TheDictator
05-01-2013, 08:37 PM
Perhaps not as widespread, but there are numerous examples of Christian terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

We also have Liberal terrorism and conservative terrorism.

Agravan
05-01-2013, 09:19 PM
Perhaps not as widespread, but there are numerous examples of Christian terrorism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Cite a recent example, not just historical ones. Like, how many bombings per day are attributed to Christian terrorists? how about in a year? A decade?

jillian
05-01-2013, 09:24 PM
On my view both Radical Christianity, Christianism, and Radical islam, Islamism, exist. Dominionism is an example of Christianism. Both are politicizations of religions that aim to mix politics and religion, the fatal opening of "a gap in the hedge or wall of Separation between the Garden of the Church and the Wilderness of the world" (Roger Williams). Both Christianist and Islamist views are minority ones--I hear 2% of Muslims are Islamists, I doubt anywhere near that percentage of Christians are Christianists, and I doubt many have heard the word.

Christianist are much, much less violent than Islamists.There's no comparison. One was changed by the Enlightenment, one needs to be.

the person who murdered dr tillman was allegedly a christian
timothy mcveigh was allegedly a christian
david koresh and the branch davidians were allegedly christian

that said... bill maher was right when he commented on what would have occurred if book of mormon was book of islam.

Greenridgeman
05-01-2013, 09:40 PM
Did you even read the article?



Do you know the meaning of sarcasm?

Agravan
05-01-2013, 11:10 PM
Do you know the meaning of sarcasm?ahh...I did not see it as such..oops.

Agravan
05-01-2013, 11:12 PM
the person who murdered dr tillman was allegedly a christian
timothy mcveigh was allegedly a christian
david koresh and the branch davidians were allegedly christian

that said... bill maher was right when he commented on what would have occurred if book of mormon was book of islam.
What did the Davidians do that was terroristic in nature besides defend themselves from the government?

Chris
05-02-2013, 05:34 AM
the person who murdered dr tillman was allegedly a christian
timothy mcveigh was allegedly a christian
david koresh and the branch davidians were allegedly christian

that said... bill maher was right when he commented on what would have occurred if book of mormon was book of islam.

Murderer, not terrorist.

McVeigh said he didn't believe in God.

Davidians weren't the terrorists:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wP_XiQOsTqk


bill maher was right

Who cares, irrelevant.

TheDictator
05-02-2013, 08:46 AM
the person who murdered dr tillman was allegedly a christian
timothy mcveigh was allegedly a christian
david koresh and the branch davidians were allegedly christian

that said... bill maher was right when he commented on what would have occurred if book of mormon was book of islam.

The unabomer was a left wing Liberal terrorist.

jillian
05-02-2013, 10:50 AM
The unabomer was a left wing Liberal terrorist.

no he wasn't... he was a neo-luddite... they're anarchists...

one step beyond the extremist i hate gubmint and want to drown it in a bathtub rightwingers.

but keep deluding yourself.i

Chris
05-02-2013, 11:57 AM
no he wasn't... he was a neo-luddite... they're anarchists...

one step beyond the extremist i hate gubmint and want to drown it in a bathtub rightwingers.

but keep deluding yourself.i

"gubmint"

That's spelled givernment.

TheDictator
05-02-2013, 12:28 PM
no he wasn't... he was a neo-luddite... they're anarchists...

one step beyond the extremist i hate gubmint and want to drown it in a bathtub rightwingers.

but keep deluding yourself.i

Ted Kaczynski in his writings stated that he believed in Leftism and that they were the true believers. He was a liberal.

Greenridgeman
05-02-2013, 12:34 PM
Ted Kaczynski in his writings stated that he believed in Leftism and that they were the true believers. He was a liberal.



He was not a "liberal".

He was a radical far left sociopath.

Chris
05-02-2013, 12:36 PM
He was not a "liberal".

He was a radical far left sociopath.

Pleonasm where left would have done.

TheDictator
05-02-2013, 12:39 PM
He was a radical far left sociopath.

That is a Liberal.

jillian
05-02-2013, 12:41 PM
Ted Kaczynski in his writings stated that he believed in Leftism and that they were the true believers. He was a liberal.

he never used the phrase "leftism"... only wacky righwingnuts use that phrase.

Chris
05-02-2013, 12:50 PM
he never used the phrase "leftism"... only wacky righwingnuts use that phrase.

What word did he use then?

TheDictator
05-02-2013, 12:50 PM
he never used the phrase "leftism"... only wacky righwingnuts use that phrase.

That is funny, it is in his writings, sorry but the truth is the truth. He was a Liberal.

Agravan
05-02-2013, 03:40 PM
That is funny, it is in his writings, sorry but the truth is the truth. He was a Liberal.

Have you not learned by now that the "truth" is subject to whatever the looney left decide it is that day?

jillian
05-02-2013, 04:17 PM
"gubmint"

That's spelled givernment.

actually, it's spelled 'government'. thanks for playing.
and if you're going to troll that way, you really should make sure you spell correctly in your post.

gubmint is a lampoon of the anti-gubmint types...

you know the type.

now try responding to the actual issues raised.

thanks.

Chris
05-02-2013, 04:24 PM
actually, it's spelled 'government'. thanks for playing.
and if you're going to troll that way, you really should make sure you spell correctly in your post.

gubmint is a lampoon of the anti-gubmint types...

you know the type.

now try responding to the actual issues raised.

thanks.

I realize I'm not as good at your game as you are but try looking things up on the world wide web:


Givernment

The idea that government exists to spend money and/or solve all problems of people, businesses or groups by spending money.

President Obama has really expanded Givernment spending.

I'm waiting for my givernment check to come so that I can score me some sweet crack.

@ http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Givernment

BillyBob
05-02-2013, 04:25 PM
now try responding to the actual issues raised.

thanks.

How ironic.

Dr. Who
05-02-2013, 06:24 PM
Cite a recent example, not just historical ones. Like, how many bombings per day are attributed to Christian terrorists? how about in a year? A decade?
Maybe not recent, but hey the Crusaders had a field day butchering Muslims for about two hundred years between 1095 and 1291. Middle eastern culture measures time differently than the west - they have a very long memory. You can't dismiss what Christians did in the past and assume Christianity is without sin.

roadmaster
05-02-2013, 06:50 PM
Maybe not recent, but hey the Crusaders had a field day butchering Muslims for about two hundred years between 1095 and 1291. Middle eastern culture measures time differently than the west - they have a very long memory. You can't dismiss what Christians did in the past and assume Christianity is without sin. Were they defending themselves the Crusaders or is this just another way atheist like to make Christians look bad. I wasn't around then or know anyone from that time.

Peter1469
05-02-2013, 06:54 PM
The First Crusade was a counter-attack against a possible Muslim take-over of Europe.

TheDictator
05-03-2013, 08:23 AM
Maybe not recent, but hey the Crusaders had a field day butchering Muslims for about two hundred years between 1095 and 1291. Middle eastern culture measures time differently than the west - they have a very long memory. You can't dismiss what Christians did in the past and assume Christianity is without sin.

Are you kidding me, that was a war about a 1000 years ago. Both sides committed great atrocities. The Muslims started the war with the percussion of Christians in the Holy Land.

TheDictator
05-03-2013, 03:06 PM
actually, it's spelled 'government'. thanks for playing.
and if you're going to troll that way, you really should make sure you spell correctly in your post.

gubmint is a lampoon of the anti-gubmint types...

you know the type.

now try responding to the actual issues raised.

thanks.

You do more of getting away from the issues than anyone on here.

Ivan88
07-31-2013, 02:06 PM
Radical means having roots. (American Heritage Dictionary New College Edition 1979)

So if one's roots are in the Talmud, you are of the Sinogog of Satan.

If your roots are in "nature's God" you may be outside the Sinogog.