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Mister D
12-05-2011, 12:48 PM
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Dealing with this problem definitely requires courage and intellectual precision. So why is it such a problem for Republicans?
The humane answer to this immense dereliction (http://www.vdare.com/posts/american-doesnt-have-a-broken-immigration-system-it-has-a-broken-deportation-system)by the American ruling class: attrition through enforcement. America’s immigrant populations have always been very volatile, as Paul Nachman (http://www.vdare.com/users/paul-nachman) has noted for us (http://www.vdare.com/posts/immigrant-attrition-during-the-great-wave)—the traditional pattern was for large proportions to go home anyway. One study says that for Italians (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-fulford-file-by-james-fulford-101)at the turn of the last century, it was as high as 65%.
Which means that by reasonably re-balancing illegals' access to social benefits, including by policing fraud—and ideally by fixing the Anchor Baby problem, since illegals’ U.S. born children are entitled to all the benefits of citizenship—a lot of this problem will eventually go away. Especially if encouraged by the stance advocated by VDARE.com heroes Representatives Lou Barletta (http://www.vdare.com/articles/good-question-lou-barletta-why-dont-we-deport-every-single-illegal-alien-caught-by-any-law-)and Mo Brooks (http://www.vdare.com/posts/more-mo-brooks-self-deportation-working-in-alabama)–firm enforcement of immigration rules when breaches come to the attention of the authorities.
The equally humane, but firmer and certainly un-PC answer: selective strategic deportation.
It’s never been necessary to “deport them all”. (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-fulford-file-by-james-fulford-32) Even in President Eisenhower’s admirable Operation Wetback deportation program, which quickly ended (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback#cite_note-autogenerated1-0) the earlier illegal immigration crisis, only 150,000 (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jun/10/chain-email/chain-e-mail-says-three-presidents-deported-total-/) were actually deported. Most (up to 3.9 million) got the message and left. (http://www.vdare.com/posts/operation-wetback-gets-msm-attention-at-last)
VDARE.com advocates (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-fulford-file-so-why-doesn-t-the-broken-windows-theory-apply-to-illegal-aliens) applying the celebrated “Broken Windows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory)” theory to deportation. By the selective strategic deportation of aliens, for example from the flagrant hiring venues developing in every American city, and above all from the increasingly-brazen insulting political demonstrations and arrogant self-outings (http://www.vdare.com/articles/isabel-castillo-gets-u-of-san-francisco-honorary-doctorate-for-being-illegal), would very quickly send a new message—or in fact an old one, the one that President Eisenhower sent and subsequent Presidents allowed to be reversed: everybody go home—the party is over.
Illegal aliens are rational people. That is why they are here. Every move to make life here less inviting and riskier will increase an exodus.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/how-to-reclaim-america-attrition-through-enforcement

MMC
12-05-2011, 12:58 PM
Do you think the media should be reporting when illegals are captured? I do for that very point. Deterence should be used.

jgreer
12-05-2011, 01:00 PM
What are you going to do when there are more of 'them' then there are of you? You will have to be more friendly of minorities when you are one

Even if the illegals get deported this country is going to be hispanic, some will just have to deal with it.

MMC
12-05-2011, 01:11 PM
What are you going to do when there are more of 'them' then there are of you? You will have to be more friendly of minorities when you are one

Even if the illegals get deported this country is going to be hispanic, some will just have to deal with it.


Why would you say so? All throughtout History they could have inhabited the entire Continent. They didnt Now why do you think that was? Big Difference in the SouthWest than the rest of the Country.

Conley
12-05-2011, 01:11 PM
What are you going to do when there are more of 'them' then there are of you? You will have to be more friendly of minorities when you are one

Even if the illegals get deported this country is going to be hispanic, some will just have to deal with it.

That's irrelevant. The law is the law and should be enforced as such. If the laws are not enforced than society breaks down. If our government picks and chooses which laws to enforce and which to let slide (which seems to be the case more and more and not just with immigration) then our republic will be ruined. These are serious issues which shouldn't be obscured by whatever racial axe you are grinding.

jgreer
12-05-2011, 01:23 PM
Not irrelevant because this is more about being anti-Mexicans then anything else. Our economy needs them. That's why they are allowed here

Pendragon
12-05-2011, 01:36 PM
This farce reminds me of how the Tea Party suddenly appeared clamoring about taxes once an African-American became president, whereas they were nowhere to be seen when George W. Bush was running up the deficit with his penchant for warmongering.

Mister D
12-05-2011, 01:44 PM
What are you going to do when there are more of 'them' then there are of you? You will have to be more friendly of minorities when you are one

Even if the illegals get deported this country is going to be hispanic, some will just have to deal with it.

The idea is not to become a minority in your own country.

Nonsense but I understand you are painfully unaware of the consequences for your way of life.

Mister D
12-05-2011, 01:46 PM
Not irrelevant because this is more about being anti-Mexicans then anything else. Our economy needs them. That's why they are allowed here


Only because Mexicans make up a majority if illegal migrants. No, our economy does not need them but it is funny when liberals join with the WSJ and other open borders lobby mouthpieces.

Mister D
12-05-2011, 01:47 PM
This farce reminds me of how the Tea Party suddenly appeared clamoring about taxes once an African-American became president, whereas they were nowhere to be seen when George W. Bush was running up the deficit with his penchant for warmongering.

On topic much?

Pendragon
12-05-2011, 01:47 PM
The idea is not to become a minority in your own country.

Nonsense but I understand you are painfully unaware of the consequences for your way of life.

My dear man, what individuals like you do not understand is that your own country is all of our country and we all have a say in it. You assume we are all white Christians with European ancestry (even as you repeatedly speak ill of our land) and you could not be more incorrect.

Pendragon
12-05-2011, 01:49 PM
Only because Mexicans make up a majority if illegal migrants. No, our economy does not need them but it is funny when liberals join with the WSJ and other open borders lobby mouthpieces.

Correct, it is quite amusing when the vast majority of the population disagrees with your premise but you insist we all want our country back or some other tomfoolery.

Mister D
12-05-2011, 01:52 PM
Correct, it is quite amusing when the vast majority of the population disagrees with your premise but you insist we all want our country back or some other tomfoolery.

What premise is that? Do you know? lol

Mister D
12-05-2011, 01:55 PM
My dear man, what individuals like you do not understand is that your own country is all of our country and we all have a say in it. You assume we are all white Christians with European ancestry (even as you repeatedly speak ill of our land) and you could not be more incorrect.


My dear boy, you too are quite ignorant of the consequences of your foolishness. Today you pat yourself on the back for not being a scary "racist". Why not? The next generation will have to deal with our decline. Not you.

Oh, and the vast majority of Europeans do actually agree with all of my views on this issue. Ouch! Don;t worry though. We'll keep that a secret between us. :wink: