NYC and he deserve each other

[Ransom]

Mr. Weiner, 48, eventually admitted to a secret practice of befriending young female admirers over the Internet and engaging in intimate sexual banter with them, sometimes sending them lewd self-portraits taken with his BlackBerry

Eventually admitted would be correct, his first reaction was to lie, his first thought was about himself.

Typical liberal, typical New Yorker, imo. He'll win, peas in a pod.

[Common]

Well of course youre right there is NO FAR RIGHT NUTTER that ever lied when busted doing dirty lmaorofllllllllll
Seriously shit like this really in REAL LIFE cracks me up.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Mr. Weiner is a dead horse who does not deserve any more public attention.

[Mainecoons]

Weiner was very proud of his wiener. Yep, he and NYC deserve each other.

:rofl:

[simpsonofpg]

I agree he doesn't deserve any more attention. Just put the story on page one along with a real nice picture so people will know who he is.

[jillian]

Eventually admitted would be correct, his first reaction was to lie, his first thought was about himself.

Typical liberal, typical New Yorker, imo. He'll win, peas in a pod.

so i guess sanford and south carolina deserve each other

and vitter and louisiana deserve each other.

anthony at least worked hard for his constituents.

and i doubt there is any man who when confronted with a marital infidelity (which, btw, is no one's business... unless, of course, like sanford, said cheater runs off, leaving his job and doesn't tell his people) doesn't say, "who? me? whatcchutalkingaboutwillis?"

[patrickt]

Well of course youre right there is NO FAR RIGHT NUTTER that ever lied when busted doing dirty lmaorofllllllllll
Seriously shit like this really in REAL LIFE cracks me up.

Can't stay on topic, can you? Like all left-wing nuts you have to squeal, "they do it do." Now, care to respond to Weiner/New York?

[patrickt]

so i guess sanford and south carolina deserve each other

and vitter and louisiana deserve each other.

anthony at least worked hard for his constituents.

and i doubt there is any man who when confronted with a marital infidelity (which, btw, is no one's business... unless, of course, like sanford, said cheater runs off, leaving his job and doesn't tell his people) doesn't say, "who? me? whatcchutalkingaboutwillis?"

Are you a sock puppet for Common? You can't stay on topic, either. Any comment on Weiner/New York or would you rather talk about Clinton/Benghazi?

[jillian]

Are you a sock puppet for Common? You can't stay on topic, either. Any comment on Weiner/New York or would you rather talk about Clinton/Benghazi?

i know.. you can't stand when rightwing hypocrisy is shown for what it is.

too bad. so sad. life is filled with pain.

[Chris]

i know.. you can't stand when rightwing hypocrisy is shown for what it is.

too bad. so sad. life is filled with pain.

Except no one has demonstrated hypocrisy. But you come close to arguing two wrongs make a right. Perhaps if you listed Reps who did the same and said they're all wrong.

[jillian]

Except no one has demonstrated hypocrisy. But you come close to arguing two wrongs make a right. Perhaps if you listed Reps who did the same and said they're all wrong.

i asked him to draw a simple analogy.

thing is, i'd vote for anthony again. and i'd vote for bill clinton again. i simply don't care who politicians screw unless it's us.

as for vitter and sanders, i still care not a whit about vitter... except to the extent that he's still in congress and anthony isn't. so i'm a bit flummoxed by that. sanders deserved to have to leave his job because he essentially left his post without backup.

and yes, it's hypocrisy for them to cry about anthony when they don't really give a rat's patoot about anthony.

now, if the o/p were actually not a hypocrite, which we know he is, then he'd bemoan the state of politicians, in general... and not do his little 'weiner and new york deserve each other' dance.

[Chris]

i asked him to draw a simple analogy.

thing is, i'd vote for anthony again. and i'd vote for bill clinton again. i simply don't care who politicians screw unless it's us.

as for vitter and sanders, i still care not a whit about vitter... except to the extent that he's still in congress and anthony isn't. so i'm a bit flummoxed by that. sanders deserved to have to leave his job because he essentially left his post without backup.

and yes, it's hypocrisy for them to cry about anthony when they don't really give a rat's patoot about anthony.

now, if the o/p were actually not a hypocrite, which we know he is, then he'd bemoan the state of politicians, in general... and not do his little 'weiner and new york deserve each other' dance.

And based on your request, before it's even answered, you draw a conclusion of hypocrisy? You have no evidence to base it on.

If he or she dismissed your examples as you and others are dismissing Weiner's, then, OK, hypocrisy.

[jillian]

And based on your request, before it's even answered, you draw a conclusion of hypocrisy? You have no evidence to base it on.

If he or she dismissed your examples as you and others are dismissing Weiner's, then, OK, hypocrisy.

well, ok. fair enough. but at some point, haven't we read people's posts enough to draw certain conclusions?

if i'm wrong, i suspect he'll tell me.

or he can say that the issues aren't related, in which case we'll know he's a hypocrite.

[Chris]

well, ok. fair enough. but at some point, haven't we read people's posts enough to draw certain conclusions?

if i'm wrong, i suspect he'll tell me.

or he can say that the issues aren't related, in which case we'll know he's a hypocrite.

When someone responds to your examples by dismissing them then I will join you is saying what they say is hypocritical. Till then we can't argue from unknowns.

[jillian]

When someone responds to your examples by dismissing them then I will join you is saying what they say is hypocritical. Till then we can't argue from unknowns.

well, we know that patrick said raising the other examples was 'off topic'. so i think we can put him on that list.

as for the o/p... ok, let's ask
Ransom what say you about vitter and sanford?

[junie]

i simply don't care who politicians screw unless it's us.



lol
:applause:

[Chris]

well, we know that patrick said raising the other examples was 'off topic'. so i think we can put him on that list.

as for the o/p... ok, let's ask
Ransom what say you about vitter and sanford?


Don't think so. Wanting to stay on topic is not dismissing anything. I don't think you can infer that. If it were then it could be inferred that going off topic was dismissing as well.

I think people just get tired of Obama...Bush, Dem...Rep--and vice versa, both sides, were we to try and divide the forum into two sides.

[Ransom]

well, we know that patrick said raising the other examples was 'off topic'. so i think we can put him on that list.

as for the o/p... ok, let's ask
@Ransom (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=724) what say you about vitter and sanford?

I already stated I think it's absolute bullshit. I think these Sanford and Clinton and Weiner types should take their claims of a calling to public service and do that public the real service of leaving politics and imo, public employment altogether.

But I expected this from you, Jillian, I had predicted your responses here. The immediate deflection to another individual(s), the immediate distraction to someone conservative, the absolute refusal to discuss Weiner to any extent predicted by everyone on this forum. I know full well this isn't tolerable on your part, I know you certainly would never vote for a candidate with a Weiner or Sanford track record.

As well....Sanford was elected as a People's Represenative, a voice for his Constituencies. Weiner is making an attempt at an Executive position. And there are few Executives that the public would tolerate this behavior, if this was an Apple, Sony, Ford, or Exxon Executive guilty of sending sexting pictures like a high school child.....they'd f'n be gone.

[Chris]

lol
:applause:


i simply don't care who politicians screw unless it's us.

I applaud that too for it is always us.

[jillian]

Don't think so. Wanting to stay on topic is not dismissing anything. I don't think you can infer that. If it were then it could be inferred that going off topic was dismissing as well.

I think people just get tired of Obama...Bush, Dem...Rep--and vice versa, both sides, were we to try and divide the forum into two sides.

but as with conversations, there are multiple facets to any particular topic.

you can't just rant about anthony because he's a dem without having it pointed out that the GOP has its own shining examples of indiscretion.

that isn't going off topic. it's honesty.

[Cigar]

Internet Pervert ... the only thing worse are Perverts. :grin:

[Ransom]

so i guess sanford and south carolina deserve each other

and vitter and louisiana deserve each other.

Exactly. Each of these Constituencies get what they deserve, they reap what they sow as well.


anthony at least worked hard for his constituents.

And his Constituents deserved everything they got and that is the knowledge that they sent their representative to Congress where he spent time at the gym and thought so much of himself...that while married...he had numerous women he was sending pictures to of his anatomy. That is f'n childish behavor Jillian....and the idiot constituents who kept sending him to Congress look as idiotic and childish as this Weiner moron.


and i doubt there is any man who when confronted with a marital infidelity (which, btw, is no one's business... unless, of course, like sanford, said cheater runs off, leaving his job and doesn't tell his people) doesn't say, "who? me? whatcchutalkingaboutwillis?"

No one's business argument again? Bullshit Jillian. Executives when they're at work....whether at or away from work...are not permitted infidelities. A liason like Bill Clinton had.....between boss and employee especially forbidden. You mention Sanford not being at work....and lying about that....and that's bad enough.....what say it had been in his office....Jillain? And the woman was a state employee....Jillian? That in many cases is sexual harrassment EVEN if the relationship is consensual. It's everyone's business and the Left and especially women's right's groups have been trying to pound that message home for decades. I guess many women like you just ain't paying attention. Tsk f'n tsk.

[Chris]

but as with conversations, there are multiple facets to any particular topic.

you can't just rant about anthony because he's a dem without having it pointed out that the GOP has its own shining examples of indiscretion.

that isn't going off topic. it's honesty.

But unless you acknowledge weiner's wrong it sounds dismissive to say tom dick and harry do it too. You'd probably get agreement were you to do that.

[Ransom]

Internet Pervert ... the only thing worse are Perverts. :grin:

Actually the only thing worse are New York City Mayor's. The current and the one running are idiots....the one seeking the job and idiot and pervert.

[jillian]

But unless you acknowledge weiner's wrong it sounds dismissive to say tom dick and harry do it too. You'd probably get agreement were you to do that.

actually, what i said, if you go back and look, is that i care not a whit about either weiner or vitter. that sanford was in a different catagory because he left his post.

so isn't saying that neither vitter nor weiner should be an issue the same thing as saying they were both wrong? it's applying a single standard.

and again, i truly don't care about these guys' private lives unless it affects their jobs.

but then again, i also didn't start this thread so i could rant about a dem politician.

[Cigar]

Actually the only thing worse are New York City Mayor's. The current and the one running are idiots....the one seeking the job and idiot and pervert.

I guess that would be the people of New York City's problem.

[Mister D]

Well of course youre right there is NO FAR RIGHT NUTTER that ever lied when busted doing dirty lmaorofllllllllll
Seriously shit like this really in REAL LIFE cracks me up.

Tu quoque

[JimH52]

so i guess sanford and south carolina deserve each other

and vitter and louisiana deserve each other.

anthony at least worked hard for his constituents.

and i doubt there is any man who when confronted with a marital infidelity (which, btw, is no one's business... unless, of course, like sanford, said cheater runs off, leaving his job and doesn't tell his people) doesn't say, "who? me? whatcchutalkingaboutwillis?"

Yup, you gotta be one of the chosen moral ones. Then people forgive you.

[Micketto]

Lol.... the OP had nothing to do with partisanship.... just creepiness and possible pedophilia.
Yet all these lefties go raging about the OP picking on the left.... too funny.

"No Right Winger ever did this!"
"Sanford did it too!"
"Right wing hypocrisy!" ...where there was none.

ffs, you people are so angry and mentally ill.

[truthmatters]

Eventually admitted would be correct, his first reaction was to lie, his first thought was about himself.

Typical liberal, typical New Yorker, imo. He'll win, peas in a pod.



david vitter wore diapers to a prostitute who is NOW DEAD.

your party re elected him.


Sanford spent the peoples money to visit his piece on the side and lied about it.


Your party re elected him.


Newt was haunching his aide while impeaching clinton for getting a blow job from his aid.

[truthmatters]

Anthony Weiner tweeted an undewear shot.


man you people expect so much more of others than you do your selves

[Common]

Anthony Weiner tweeted an undewear shot.


man you people expect so much more of others than you do your selves


You need to be more truthful if truth really matters to you. Anthony Weiner was married and engaging in sexting with not only a 21 yr old woman but a blackjack dealer from Las vegas and pornstar gingerlee. He was NAKED on camera in at least one of those exchanges.
Probably most important he LIED outright to everyone several times until the photos were finally exposed. You trying to make this as simply a guy who wrote an email while in his underwear is just not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner_sexting_scandal

[truthmatters]

Vitter lied to his wife for years about wearing a diaper to a prostitute.


Sandford lied to EVERYONE for years about his piece on the side.

Newt divorced his first wife while she was suffering cancer, and cheated on every wife he had

[truthmatters]

Your party only sees morals as a tool to win elections

[Chris]

Vitter lied to his wife for years about wearing a diaper to a prostitute.


Sandford lied to EVERYONE for years about his piece on the side.

Newt divorced his first wife while she was suffering cancer, and cheated on every wife he had

Are you arguing 2, 3, 4 wrongs make a right, or are you saying members of both parties are wrong?

[truthmatters]

why is it FINE when your dirty boys run again?

ask any wife which "crime" she would rather see her husband commit?


you would get all underwear votes and you know it

[truthmatters]

the republican party is a fake moral party

[Mainecoons]

NYC deserves you too.

:grin:

[Chris]

the republican party is a fake moral party

Ditto the Democrat Party then by your illogic.

[Micketto]

Are you arguing 2, 3, 4 wrongs make a right, or are you saying members of both parties are wrong?

Truth doesn't answer questions.
Truth just rages on with more and more irrelevant questions.

When you have no answers.... just ask more questions.

[truthmatters]

Lets remember its the republican party that plays the MORAL card all the time.

Your all jesusy remember?

[Ransom]

david vitter wore diapers to a prostitute who is NOW DEAD.

your party re elected him.


Sanford spent the peoples money to visit his piece on the side and lied about it.


Your party re elected him.


Newt was haunching his aide while impeaching clinton for getting a blow job from his aid.

I denounced Vitter, Sanford, and didn't vote for Gingrich. While you're defending Weiner here by this distraction notably not being able to say a word in criticism. Try to be a transparent hack, tt.

[Ransom]

Lets remember its the republican party that plays the MORAL card all the time.

Your all jesusy remember?

Liberals don't accuse their political opposition of racism, waging some "war on women", or wanting elderly citizens without access to heathcare in games attempting the moral high ground?

Why such a transparent political hack, tt, cannot you at least try to pretend. You're so radical here, not even your friends want to be 'seen' with you. Now, let's cut the hysterics and settle down.

[Chris]

Lets remember its the republican party that plays the MORAL card all the time.

Your all jesusy remember?

Does that mean liberals play the IMMORAL card all the time? ;-)

[Ransom]

Still want to now the Liberal count here who would vote for this Weiner. I see alot of deflection. Much about Vitter, Sanford, and the distraction to anyone besides this Anthony Weiner Cat. I think Jillian was brave enough to spout some support, I've heard from very few others in the herd.

[Chris]

Still want to now the Liberal count here who would vote for this Weiner. I see alot of deflection. Much about Vitter, Sanford, and the distraction to anyone besides this Anthony Weiner Cat. I think Jillian was brave enough to spout some support, I've heard from very few others in the herd.

Who'd want to be known as a wiener supporter?

[Ransom]

Who'd want to be known as a wiener supporter?

He is a front runner for Mayor of Democrat New York City, Weiner has clearly risen again, Chris.

[Mainecoons]

From what I can gather, his wiener needs no support. It just stands up on its own.

:rofl:

[Mister D]

From what I can gather, his wiener needs no support. It just stands up on its own.

:rofl:

Saw this paper at the bar.


N.Y. Daily News: Cuomo Spanks Weiner

Read more: http://www.jta.org/2013/05/24/arts-entertainment/six-degrees-no-bacon/taking-weiner-seriously#ixzz2UGPMSZ00

[Dr. Who]

Who'd want to be known as a wiener supporter?I know it's not particularly nice to say, but his name alone will be fodder for millions of jokes. Headlines: Wiener elected as mayor of NYC! Wiener takes a stand on food carts! Wiener is a weeny on crime! Wiener roasted by opposition. Bad jokes will abound.

[Ransom]

Unless you think him running at all is a bad joke, if he wins that will be no joke. Telling those in NYC support him, so many sheep.

[patrickt]

Weiner was very proud of his wiener. Yep, he and NYC deserve each other.

:rofl:

I think he belongs in San Francisco. Woody Allen and Roman Polanski could handle his fund-raising and publicity.

[Chris]

I know it's not particularly nice to say, but his name alone will be fodder for millions of jokes. Headlines: Wiener elected as mayor of NYC! Wiener takes a stand on food carts! Wiener is a weeny on crime! Wiener roasted by opposition. Bad jokes will abound.

Yea, I really feel sorry for him. :rollseyes:

[jillian]

I think he belongs in San Francisco. Woody Allen and Roman Polanski could handle his fund-raising and publicity.

who did either anthony weiner or woody allen have nonconsensual relationships with?

[Dr. Who]

i asked him to draw a simple analogy.

thing is, i'd vote for anthony again. and i'd vote for bill clinton again. i simply don't care who politicians screw unless it's us.

as for vitter and sanders, i still care not a whit about vitter... except to the extent that he's still in congress and anthony isn't. so i'm a bit flummoxed by that. sanders deserved to have to leave his job because he essentially left his post without backup.

and yes, it's hypocrisy for them to cry about anthony when they don't really give a rat's patoot about anthony.

now, if the o/p were actually not a hypocrite, which we know he is, then he'd bemoan the state of politicians, in general... and not do his little 'weiner and new york deserve each other' dance.
My only issue with politicians like Weiner is what does his behavior indicate about his judgment? Sending pics of your privates via the internet is not very smart and any teenager should know better, let alone a full grown politician. I would distinguish that behavior from Clinton's which was at least discreet. What people do in their private lives is no one's business unless they do something to make it public.

[Mister D]

Do we expect our leaders to have any character? Sign of the times I guess.

[simpsonofpg]

Mr. Weiner is a dead horse who does not deserve any more public attention.

When did getting what you deserve enter the picture. Most of us should be glad we don't get what we deserce.

[jillian]

My only issue with politicians like Weiner is what does his behavior indicate about his judgment? Sending pics of your privates via the internet is not very smart and any teenager should know better, let alone a full grown politician. I would distinguish that behavior from Clinton's which was at least discreet. What people do in their private lives is no one's business unless they do something to make it public.

i think when you have as many years in public service as he does, you should be judged on what you've done with that public service.

[Dr. Who]

i think when you have as many years in public service as he does, you should be judged on what you've done with that public service. Perhaps so, but people don't tend to be that magnanimous. They generally want to think that their public servants are beyond reproach or at the very least they don't want to know some of the things that make them human.

[jillian]

Perhaps so, but people don't tend to be that magnanimous. They generally want to think that their public servants are beyond reproach or at the very least they don't want to know some of the things that make them human.

maybe. but david vitter is still in the senate; and sanford was elected to the house of representatives.

people like redemption... even if it's pretend.

and i never thought what anthony did warranted him being hung out to dry. i figured if he'd had a different last name, he'd still be in congress

[Dr. Who]

maybe. but david vitter is still in the senate; and sanford was elected to the house of representatives.

people like redemption... even if it's pretend.

and i never thought what anthony did warranted him being hung out to dry. i figured if he'd had a different last name, he'd still be in congressUnfortunately his name will always be a reminder.

[jillian]

Unfortunately his name will always be a reminder.

he should just do t-shirts that say "i'm with weiner... bite me" and have it done with.

[Dr. Who]

he should just do t-shirts that say "i'm with weiner... Bite me" and have it done with.lol.

[BB-35]

anthony at least worked hard for his constituents.


And this excuses his actions HOW?

[jillian]

And this excuses his actions HOW?

what he did in his personal life was his and his wife's business.

why are vitter and sanford in congress? you excusing their actions?

sanford left his job and told no one he was out of the country. that's ok with you cause he's a righty?

[Chris]

what he did in his personal life was his and his wife's business.

why are vitter and sanford in congress? you excusing their actions?

sanford left his job and told no one he was out of the country. that's ok with you cause he's a righty?

Do you see anyone excusing them? Then why ask as if someone is?

[jillian]

Do you see anyone excusing them? Then why ask as if someone is?

i see them only mentioning anthony.

same diff

[Chris]

i see them only mentioning anthony.

same diff

No, it's not the same diff.

FDR had affairs, you haven't mentioned him, therefore you are excusing him--do you buy that?

[Chris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=87KDfa5sc80#!

[jillian]

No, it's not the same diff.

FDR had affairs, you haven't mentioned him, therefore you are excusing him--do you buy that?

not the same diff because *you* said so? lol

actually, FDR had a long term affair with his aide de camp

daddy bush had affairs, too

you didn't mention that.

like i said. i'm not the one who cares. *shrug*

[Chris]

not the same diff because *you* said so? lol

actually, FDR had a long term affair with his aide de camp

daddy bush had affairs, too

you didn't mention that.

like i said. i'm not the one who cares. *shrug*

Oh, you don't care? Then why are you posting and raising a stink about it?

[Peter1469]

I had not heard that Bush the Elder had an affair. I have read Family of Secrets- which is very critical of Bush (even linking him to JFKs assassination) and it doesn't mention an affair.

[jillian]

I had not heard that Bush the Elder had an affair. I have read Family of Secrets- which is very critical of Bush (even linking him to JFKs assassination) and it doesn't mention an affair.

it's anecdotal... supposedly an open secret when he was president. it was said at the time that they were in an auto accident together at one point and it was kept very quiet.

my point is, i don't care about their personal indiscretions if it doesn't affect their jobs. and i'm bored of the rants that only focus on people of one political persuasion.

[Chris]

it's anecdotal... supposedly an open secret when he was president. it was said at the time that they were in an auto accident together at one point and it was kept very quiet.

my point is, i don't care about their personal indiscretions if it doesn't affect their jobs. and i'm bored of the rants that only focus on people of one political persuasion.

Agree, the quality of the forum would go way up if members stopped focusing on people and started focusing on politics and policy. Watch TMZ for gossip.

[countryboy]

thing is, i'd vote for anthony again. and i'd vote for bill clinton again. i simply don't care who politicians screw unless it's us.



As with most modern libs, you care not about character. Thanks for your honesty.

[Ransom]

what he did in his personal life was his and his wife's business.

Any Captain of industry. Bank Executive. Corporate Chief Executive. Manufacturing Mogul. Any tech industry chiefton running a Microsoft or Apple. School Teacher or Fire Chief. Any Police Commissioner, Community Leader, any endeavor really where integrity and a sound moral base is required....yer gone. Boy Scout Leader, Girl Scout Leader, Professional Coach, College Coach, College Professor, College Administrator...yer gone. Especially after lying about it.

And in none of these professions would it be considered "his and his wife's business", it's telling some observers think that. Wow.:undecided:

[Ransom]

it's anecdotal... supposedly an open secret when he was president. it was said at the time that they were in an auto accident together at one point and it was kept very quiet.

my point is, i don't care about their personal indiscretions if it doesn't affect their jobs. and i'm bored of the rants that only focus on people of one political persuasion.

Oh look, it's "anecdotal." All "supposedly" kept "very quiet." No link. Not a shred of proof offered. Distraction tactic so blatant it's laughable. What grows boring is the continued tolerance of moderators who allow utter bullshit to be thrown up on these boards without any regard for foundation.

[Chris]

Oh look, it's "anecdotal." All "supposedly" kept "very quiet." No link. Not a shred of proof offered. Distraction tactic so blatant it's laughable. What grows boring is the continued tolerance of moderators who allow utter bullshit to be thrown up on these boards without any regard for foundation.

We depend on members like you to knock such nonsense out of the water.

[Ransom]

But, with all due respect. I read the forum rules and guidelines, it was one of the reasons I began posting in here, the rules seemed a minimum, the mods tolerated light banter and free expression. But rule number 7 and it is a rule, not merely a guideline concerns 'referencing sources by posting a link to that source' and that this "adheres to the Fair Use Act."

I see people quoted and charges thrown out here....without the slightest foundation or support.

[Chris]

But, with all due respect. I read the forum rules and guidelines, it was one of the reasons I began posting in here, the rules seemed a minimum, the mods tolerated light banter and free expression. But rule number 7 and it is a rule, not merely a guideline concerns 'referencing sources by posting a link to that source' and that this "adheres to the Fair Use Act."

I see people quoted and charges thrown out here....without the slightest foundation or support.

That has to do with copying and posting someone else's words. If I cite the NYT or Reason.com or whatever, I'm obligated by honesty to credit the source. If you see this, please report it, we will contact the poster and insist it's credited.

People posting mere opinions doesn't fall under that.