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JimH52
05-23-2013, 09:56 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/McCain-Paul-Cruz-Lee/2013/05/22/id/505811

The baggers are at it again...How can the GOP continue to criticize the Dems on Budget when the GOP is blocking the process?

Calypso Jones
05-23-2013, 10:10 AM
We want them too. We have damn few reps in congress who will do the will of the people.

truthmatters
05-23-2013, 10:23 AM
Mccain is scum

jillian
05-23-2013, 10:24 AM
We want them too. We have damn few reps in congress who will do the will of the people.

if you're in the minority, numerically, it isn't the will of "the people".

you lost, remember? TWICE. :D

Chris
05-23-2013, 10:26 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/McCain-Paul-Cruz-Lee/2013/05/22/id/505811

The baggers are at it again...How can the GOP continue to criticize the Dems on Budget when the GOP is blocking the process?

http://snag.gy/GYE8M.jpg

Chris
05-23-2013, 10:27 AM
We want them too. We have damn few reps in congress who will do the will of the people.


if you're in the minority, numerically, it isn't the will of "the people".

you lost, remember? TWICE. :D



We're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

Cigar
05-23-2013, 10:30 AM
Hey ... they broke the glass and let the virus out ... now deal with it.

truthmatters
05-23-2013, 10:30 AM
why does the right refuse the dictionary definition of the word democracy?

Chris
05-23-2013, 10:34 AM
why does the right refuse the dictionary definition of the word democracy?

Why do you use common usage dictionaries to discuss political science?

truthmatters
05-23-2013, 10:41 AM
Democracy has a definition.

Your hate of it does not change that definition

JimH52
05-23-2013, 10:50 AM
We want them too. We have damn few reps in congress who will do the will of the people.


Because Obstructionism and Dogma are the very things that have made this country great, right?:disgust:

Chris
05-23-2013, 10:51 AM
Democracy has a definition.

Your hate of it does not change that definition


From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.

A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking. Let us examine the points in which it varies from pure democracy, and we shall comprehend both the nature of the cure and the efficacy which it must derive from the Union.

The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended.

~Madison, Federalist 10

JimH52
05-23-2013, 10:51 AM
why does the right refuse the dictionary definition of the word democracy?


The Tea Baggers are coming up with a new term. It is Dogmacracy...it fits them well.

Common
05-23-2013, 10:55 AM
In all fairness to the teaparty I loathed Nancy Pelosi's and the democrats way of doing business when they were in power last congress. They totally steamrolled the republicans on everything and didnt negotiate and compromise on anything either. Its a two way street not one, its just that its the teaparty right now screwing the country up and keeping us from getting out this mess and screwing the middle class by making unreasonable demands, If it were the democrats I would be just as pissed.

patrickt
05-23-2013, 11:27 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/McCain-Paul-Cruz-Lee/2013/05/22/id/505811

The baggers are at it again...How can the GOP continue to criticize the Dems on Budget when the GOP is blocking the process?

My god, Jim, do you mean the dickheads have finally got a budget? I distinctly remember Sen. Reid saying they didn't even need a budget and here you're suggesting they have one. It's amazing but you never know what the dickheads will come up with.

The dickheads have two terms they're leaning towards: dictatorship and tyranny. Both appeal to them but they're undecided. But, as Nancy Pelosi pointed out, once they've passed the laws they might possibly let us know...or not.

It is hard to believe anyone is blocking the plan to borrow more, tax more, spend more, raise the deficit, and raise the debt. How could anyone object to the dickhead's plan to totally destroy America?

Chris
05-23-2013, 11:47 AM
The Tea Baggers are coming up with a new term. It is Dogmacracy...it fits them well.

http://snag.gy/GYE8M.jpg

JimH52
05-23-2013, 04:00 PM
http://snag.gy/GYE8M.jpg

You a one trick pony Chris? That is a question...

JimH52
05-23-2013, 04:01 PM
My god, Jim, do you mean the dickheads have finally got a budget? I distinctly remember Sen. Reid saying they didn't even need a budget and here you're suggesting they have one. It's amazing but you never know what the dickheads will come up with.

The dickheads have two terms they're leaning towards: dictatorship and tyranny. Both appeal to them but they're undecided. But, as Nancy Pelosi pointed out, once they've passed the laws they might possibly let us know...or not.

It is hard to believe anyone is blocking the plan to borrow more, tax more, spend more, raise the deficit, and raise the debt. How could anyone object to the dickhead's plan to totally destroy America?

Bagger will be fine with the country defaulting on its debt. Then we can see how the third world lives, huh?

Chris
05-23-2013, 04:09 PM
You a one trick pony Chris? That is a question...

What, you don't like it? Aw, gee.

Chris
05-23-2013, 04:10 PM
Bagger will be fine with the country defaulting on its debt. Then we can see how the third world lives, huh?

And the teabaggee will too apparently. You all want to spend us into unsustainable debt.

jillian
05-23-2013, 05:20 PM
And the teabaggee will too apparently. You all want to spend us into unsustainable debt.

spending led to the biggest booms we've ever had.

Chris
05-23-2013, 05:50 PM
spending led to the biggest booms we've ever had.

Demonstrate causation. I'll wait.

simpsonofpg
05-24-2013, 05:36 PM
As much as I admire his past I think he drifts in and out of the present.

Dr. Who
05-24-2013, 05:47 PM
We're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.I don't thing the two are mutually exclusive: Democracy contrasts with forms of government where power is either held by one person, as in a monarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy), or where power is held by a small number of individuals, as in an oligarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy). Nevertheless, these oppositions, inherited from Greek philosophy,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy#cite_note-3) are now ambiguous because contemporary governments have mixed democratic, oligarchic, and monarchic elements. Karl Popper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper) defined democracy in contrast to dictatorship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship) or tyranny, thus focusing on opportunities for the people to control their leaders and to oust them without the need for a revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy#cite_note-4)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

Peter1469
05-24-2013, 06:39 PM
spending led to the biggest booms we've ever had.

Incorrect. Tax cuts had led to our biggest economic booms.