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Cigar
07-18-2013, 08:10 AM
Jobless claims show sharp improvement, reach three-month low

By Steve Benen

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Last week's report on initial unemployment claims was unexpectedly discouraging, making the good news this morning that more reassuring.


The number of people who applied for regular state unemployment-insurance benefits dropped 24,000 to 334,000 in the week that ended July 13, hitting the lowest level of new claims since early May, signaling a slower pace of layoffs, the U.S. Department of Labor reported Thursday. Economists polled by MarketWatch had expected initial claims to fall to 341,000 from an original estimate of 360,000 in the prior week. However, it's difficult to precisely measure claims this month because of distortions from events such as annual auto plant shutdowns and the July 4 holiday, they said.... The four-week average of initial claims, a less volatile gauge, declined 5,250 to 346,000.
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In terms of metrics, when jobless claims fall below the 400,000 threshold, it's considered evidence of an improving jobs landscape, and when the number drops below 370,000, it suggests jobs are being created rather quickly. We've been below the 370,000 threshold 28 of the last 31 weeks, and below 350,000 in 10 of the last 15 weeks.

Above you'll find the chart showing weekly, initial unemployment claims going back to the beginning of 2007. (Remember, unlike the monthly jobs chart, a lower number is good news.) For context, I've added an arrow to show the point at which President Obama's Recovery Act began spending money.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/07/18/19539589-jobless-claims-show-sharp-improvement-reach-three-month-low


:shocked: Ready ... Aim ... Deny :laugh:

Cigar
07-18-2013, 09:19 AM
What ... no encouragement? :laugh:

Cigar
07-18-2013, 09:31 AM
AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 17 July 2013

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Agravan
07-18-2013, 09:55 AM
Great news. Now, count all the people that have dropped off the rolls because they are no longer eligible for benefits but still have not found jobs and then tell us how great the economy is doing.
But at this rate, we'll soon have no one eligible for unemployment benefits and the claims will drop to zero. I would assume that you would take that as proof that the economy is perfect, right?

Cigar
07-18-2013, 09:59 AM
Great news. Now, count all the people that have dropped off the rolls because they are no longer eligible for benefits but still have not found jobs and then tell us how great the economy is doing.
But at this rate, we'll soon have no one eligible for unemployment benefits and the claims will drop to zero. I would assume that you would take that as proof that the economy is perfect, right?

Please tell us Agravan, what exactly would you want Mother Government to specifically do for people who have dropped off the rolls because they are no longer eligible for benefits but still have not found jobs.

What does YOUR Political Party call these people and what exactly are they actively doing?

Please proceed Governor :wink:

nic34
07-18-2013, 10:02 AM
Maybe the moochers finally got new jobs provided by the corporations their taxes have subsidized..... :laugh:

Agravan
07-18-2013, 10:18 AM
Please tell us Agravan, what exactly would you want Mother Government to specifically do for people who have dropped off the rolls because they are no longer eligible for benefits but still have not found jobs.

What does YOUR Political Party call these people and what exactly are they actively doing?

Please proceed Governor :wink:

Sure, Cigar. Mother Government could kill job killing laws like obamacare, reduce corporate taxes to make us more competitive and actually encourage job growth. But it does not matter, that's not what people like you or Nic want to hear, is it?
No, just keep touting these numbers like they are actual indicators of economic growth because that's all you have.
Tell you what, why don't you go look at the U6 number and tell us how great we're doing?

Agravan
07-18-2013, 10:19 AM
Maybe the moochers finally got new jobs provided by the corporations their taxes have subsidized..... :laugh:
Actually, no Nic. With the highest corporate tax in the world, business would be crazy to expand here. But hey, at least you're getting more of their money for your pet projects, right...not so much.

Cigar
07-18-2013, 10:34 AM
Sure, Cigar. Mother Government could kill job killing laws like obamacare, reduce corporate taxes to make us more competitive and actually encourage job growth. But it does not matter, that's not what people like you or Nic want to hear, is it?
No, just keep touting these numbers like they are actual indicators of economic growth because that's all you have.
Tell you what, why don't you go look at the U6 number and tell us how great we're doing?


The Supreme Court has decided ... Obamacare is Law ... so move on or Win a Presidential Election.

Until that miracle happens ... dry your tears.

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Agravan
07-18-2013, 10:37 AM
The Supreme Court has decided ... Obamacare is Law ... so move on or Win a Presidential Election.

Until that miracle happens ... dry your tears.

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You asked what could be done. I told you. Laws can be overturned.

Venus
07-18-2013, 10:39 AM
Great news. Now, count all the people that have dropped off the rolls because they are no longer eligible for benefits but still have not found jobs and then tell us how great the economy is doing.
But at this rate, we'll soon have no one eligible for unemployment benefits and the claims will drop to zero. I would assume that you would take that as proof that the economy is perfect, right?

Question?

Only able to find part time work because of Obamacare fall under the economic reasons for working part time or noneconomic reasons for working part time?

Taxcutter
07-18-2013, 10:40 AM
As if anybody believes Hussein Obama's unemployment numbers.

Mainecoons
07-18-2013, 03:10 PM
http://tcf.org/assets/images/blog_images/20120110-graph-america-has-a-part-time-employment-problem.png

BB-35
07-18-2013, 09:57 PM
Doesn't matter if you use just baked bread on a shit sandwich...it's STILL,well,you know....