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Chris
07-23-2013, 12:02 PM
Yes, yet another thread on Detroit. Thought it interesting though not only because written by a Brit but because of its ties to Rand and Statism.

Statism is turning America into Detroit – Ayn Rand's Starnesville come to life (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100227375/obamanomics-is-turning-america-into-detroit-ayn-rands-starnesville-come-to-life/)


Look at this description of Detroit from today’s Observer:


What isn’t dumped is stolen. Factories and homes have largely been stripped of anything of value, so thieves now target cars’ catalytic converters. Illiteracy runs at around 47%; half the adults in some areas are unemployed. In many neighbourhoods, the only sign of activity is a slow trudge to the liquor store.

Now have a look at the uncannily prophetic description of Starnesville, a Mid-Western town in Ayn Rand’s dystopian novel, Atlas Shrugged. Starnesville had been home to the great Twentieth Century Motor Company, but declined as a result of socialism:


A few houses still stood within the skeleton of what had once been an industrial town. Everything that could move, had moved away; but some human beings had remained. The empty structures were vertical rubble; they had been eaten, not by time, but by men: boards torn out at random, missing patches of roofs, holes left in gutted cellars. It looked as if blind hands had seized whatever fitted the need of the moment, with no concept of remaining in existence the next morning. The inhabited houses were scattered at random among the ruins; the smoke of their chimneys was the only movement visible in town. A shell of concrete, which had been a schoolhouse, stood on the outskirts; it looked like a skull, with the empty sockets of glassless windows, with a few strands of hair still clinging to it, in the shape of broken wires.

Beyond the town, on a distant hill, stood the factory of the Twentieth Century Motor Company. Its walls, roof lines and smokestacks looked trim, impregnable like a fortress. It would have seemed intact but for a silver water tank: the water tank was tipped sidewise.

They saw no trace of a road to the factory in the tangled miles of trees and hillsides. They drove to the door of the first house in sight that showed a feeble signal of rising smoke. The door was open. An old woman came shuffling out at the sound of the motor. She was bent and swollen, barefooted, dressed in a garment of flour sacking. She looked at the car without astonishment, without curiosity; it was the blank stare of a being who had lost the capacity to feel anything but exhaustion.

“Can you tell me the way to the factory?” asked Rearden.

The woman did not answer at once; she looked as if she would be unable to speak English. “What factory?” she asked.

Rearden pointed. “That one.”
“It’s closed.”

Now here’s the really extraordinary thing. When Ayn Rand published those words in 1957, Detroit was, on most measures, the city with the highest per capita GDP in the United States....

...The Observer, naturally, quotes a native complaining that ‘capitalism has failed us,’ but capitalism is the one thing the place desperately needs. Detroit has been under Leftist administrations for half a century....

...Which brings us to the scariest thing of all. Detroit could all too easily be a forerunner for the rest of the United States. As Mark Steyn puts it in the National Review:


Like Detroit, America has unfunded liabilities, to the tune of $220 trillion, according to the economist Laurence Kotlikoff. Like Detroit, it’s cosseting the government class and expanding the dependency class, to the point where its bipartisan “immigration reform” actively recruits 50–60 million low-skilled chain migrants. Like Detroit, America’s governing institutions are increasingly the corrupt enforcers of a one-party state — the IRS and Eric Holder’s amusingly misnamed Department of Justice being only the most obvious examples. Like Detroit, America is bifurcating into the class of “community organizers” and the unfortunate denizens of the communities so organized.

Oh dear. No wonder the president would rather talk about Trayvon Martin. If you want to see Obamanomics taken to its conclusion, look at Starnesville. And tremble.

lynn
07-23-2013, 05:29 PM
It declined because of "socialism?" The U.S. has never been "socialism" ever in history!

Chris
07-23-2013, 05:33 PM
It declined because of "socialism?" The U.S. has never been "socialism" ever in history!

Social democracy is the most insidious form of socialism.

Peter1469
07-23-2013, 05:52 PM
I disagree that social democracy is the worst form of socialism- and I am not even Jewish! :shocked:

Social democracy is likely the norm in the 1st world.

Chris
07-23-2013, 05:59 PM
While old socialism sought the collapse of capitalism and public ownership of capital, the new socialism, social democracy, under the pretense of freedom, accepts management of capital for its agendas.

Here is neosocialist Robert Reich explaining @ The Answer Isn't Socialism; It's Capitalism That Better Spreads the Benefits of the Productivity Revolution (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/the-answer-isnt-socialism_b_1491243.html): "We don't need socialism. We need a capitalism that works for the vast majority. The productivity revolution should be making our lives better -- not poorer and more insecure. And it will do that when we have the political will to spread its benefits."

Peter1469
07-23-2013, 06:05 PM
I don't like it either.

Ravi
07-23-2013, 06:10 PM
The USA was never against social programs. And Rand benefited from them. More fauxrage and negativity from glibertarians.

Chris
07-23-2013, 06:17 PM
The USA was never against social programs. And Rand benefited from them. More fauxrage and negativity from glibertarians.

Interesting opinion.

I agree the US has never been against socialism. But I'm curious what you mean and would ask that you elaborate.

Will ignore the made up words as feeble attempt to distract with inflammatory remarks.

So, the elaboration?

Ravi
07-23-2013, 06:22 PM
Of what? Rand benefiting from social programs or the USA not being against them? Also, what made up words and what is up with yet another personal attack?

Mister D
07-23-2013, 06:26 PM
I disagree that social democracy is the worst form of socialism- and I am not even Jewish! :shocked:

Social democracy is likely the norm in the 1st world.

It is. I agree. It represents the collusion of what used to be the left and the right. Those terms are obsolete. Essentially, the market remains relatively free and the welfare state stays.

Chris
07-23-2013, 06:29 PM
Of what? Rand benefiting from social programs or the USA not being against them? Also, what made up words and what is up with yet another personal attack?

Given the context of agreement, "I agree the US has never been against socialism. But I'm curious what you mean and would ask that you elaborate" I think my request clear.


"fauxrage" and "glibertarians" are made up words.

What personal attack, marie? Don't you tire of making up false accusations?