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Cigar
07-30-2013, 09:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ICkFTVWtAXY

This week, House Republicans will vote for the 40th time to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

... and how many jobs bills have they offered?

Zero.

The Repealicans: Voting to put insurance companies back in charge of your health care.

Ladies and Gentlemen ... it doesn't get any crazier than this! :killme:

keymanjim
07-30-2013, 09:22 AM
44 jobs bills sent to the democrats in the senate never to be seen or heard from again.
Let me guess, they don't meet your impossibly high standard of what a jobs bill is so you deny that they existed?

nic34
07-30-2013, 09:25 AM
44 jobs bills sent to the democrats in the senate never to be seen or heard from again.
Let me guess, they don't meet your impossibly high standard of what a jobs bill is so you deny that they existed?

What like this one?


WASHINGTON, Sept. 19 (UPI) -- The U.S. Senate Wednesday failed to break a Republican filibuster, effectively killing a bill supporters said would provide job training for military veterans.
The Senate voted 58-40 in favor of proceeding to debate on the Veterans Job Corps bill, but the bill needed 60 votes to advance.


Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/19/Senate-GOP-kills-Veterans-Job-Corps-bill/UPI-65011348094340/#ixzz2aXTdWh83

Mainecoons
07-30-2013, 09:27 AM
I don't suppose you'd care to do a little homework on just what miserable failures these government "job training" programs are.

I didn't think so.

nic34
07-30-2013, 09:28 AM
I don't suppose you'd care to do a little homework on just what miserable failures these government "job training" programs are.

I didn't think so.

Try reading what I was responding to a little closer.

Cigar
07-30-2013, 09:31 AM
What like this one?


WASHINGTON, Sept. 19 (UPI) -- The U.S. Senate Wednesday failed to break a Republican filibuster, effectively killing a bill supporters said would provide job training for military veterans.
The Senate voted 58-40 in favor of proceeding to debate on the Veterans Job Corps bill, but the bill needed 60 votes to advance.


Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/19/Senate-GOP-kills-Veterans-Job-Corps-bill/UPI-65011348094340/#ixzz2aXTdWh83


They are in denial :laugh:

keymanjim
07-30-2013, 09:38 AM
What like this one?


WASHINGTON, Sept. 19 (UPI) -- The U.S. Senate Wednesday failed to break a Republican filibuster, effectively killing a bill supporters said would provide job training for military veterans.
The Senate voted 58-40 in favor of proceeding to debate on the Veterans Job Corps bill, but the bill needed 60 votes to advance.


Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/09/19/Senate-GOP-kills-Veterans-Job-Corps-bill/UPI-65011348094340/#ixzz2aXTdWh83

Yes. Another "widows and orphans" spending bill that does nothing but funnel money to the politically connected.

Mainecoons
07-30-2013, 10:00 AM
The Failure of Federal Job TrainingBy James Bovard
August 28, 1986

Executive Summary
Federal job-training programs have harmed the careers of millions of Americans, failed to impart valuable job skills to the poor, and squandered billions of dollars annually. For 25 years, government programs have warped work ethics, helped disillusion generations of disadvantaged youth, and deluged America with fraudulent statistics. After spending over a hundred billion dollars on manpower programs[1] we have learned little or nothing: today’s programs merely repeat the mistakes of the early 1960s. Federal programs have reduced the incomes of millions of trainees and have helped create a growing underclass of permanently unemployed Americans.
In the last 25 years, we have had more than 50 different federal training programs—yet unemployment rates have kept increasing; indeed, they have soared among groups targeted by government jobs programs. Every few years the names of the programs are changed and the politicians and Labor Department swear that success is just around the next budgetary bend, but little or nothing improves.
Amazingly, the federal government has stayed in the training business for a quarter of a century without any major success to show for it. America has been served an alphabet soup of failed jobs programs—from MDTA (Manpower Development and Training Administration), to CETA (Comprehensive Employment and Training Act), YEDTP (Youth Entitlement Demonstration and Training Program), JTPA (Job Training Partnership Act), AYES (Alternate Youth and Employment Strategies), STEADY (Special Training and Employment Assistance for Disadvantaged Youth), STIP, BEST, YIEPP, YACC, SCSEP, HIRE, ad infinitum.[2]
Federal training failures have been masked by endless statistical shams. The Department of Labor has strained for 25 years to expand the definition of “success”—from counting Job Corps trainees as employed simply by confirming that they had a job interview, to counting as permanently employed people who spend one day on a new job, to counting as a major achievement teaching 17-year-olds to make change from a dollar. DOL’s abuse of statistics epitomizes the welfare state’s disregard of the evidence of its failure. A 1979 Washington Post investigation concluded, “Incredibly, the government has kept no meaningful statistics on the effectiveness of these programs—making the past 15 years’ effort almost worthless in terms of learning what works.”[3] Since 1979, DOL has perfected its ostrich act and now knows almost nothing about how its training programs are operating on the state and local levels.

http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/failure-federal-job-training


In 1962, Congress passed the Manpower Development and Training Act (MDTA) to provide training for workers who lost their jobs due to automation or other technological developments. Two years later, the General Accounting Office (GAO) discovered that any trainee in this program who held a job for a single day was counted as "permanently employed"—a statistical charade by the Department of Labor to camouflage its lack of results. A decade after MDTA's inception, GAO reported that it was failing to teach valuable job skills or place trainees in private jobs and was marred by an "overriding concern with filling available slots for a particular program," regardless of what trainees actually needed.
Congress responded in 1973 by enacting the Comprehensive Employment and Training Act (CETA). The preface to the new law noted that "it has been impossible to develop rational priorities" in job training. So instead of setting priorities, CETA spent vastly more money, especially on job creation. Notorious examples reported in the press in those years included paying to build an artificial rock for rock climbers, providing nude sculpture classes (where, as the Pharos-Tribune of Logansport, Ind., explained, "aspiring artists pawed each others bodies to recognize that they had 'both male and female characteristics'"), and conducting door-to-door food-stamp recruiting campaigns.
Between 1961 and 1980, the feds spent tens of billions on federal job-training and employment programs. To what effect? A 1979 Washington Post investigation concluded, "Incredibly, the government has kept no meaningful statistics on the effectiveness of these programs—making the past 15 years' effort almost worthless in terms of learning what works." CETA hirees were often assigned to do whatever benefited the government agency or nonprofit that put them on the payroll, with no concern for the trainees' development. An Urban Institute study of the mid-1980s concluded that participation in CETA programs resulted in "significant earnings losses for young men of all races and no significant effects for young women."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904332804576538361788872004.html

Yep, here we go again, liberalism in action doing the same failed thing over and over again and expecting a different result.