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Boris The Animal
08-13-2013, 07:49 AM
Detroit had not had a Republican mayor since the 1960s. And as a result of the stranglehold that Leftist Democrats have had on that city, we've all seen the outcome. I say we should let Detroit rot to the ground as a shining example of what unchecked Liberalism has done. Now, idiots like Cigar think that would be all peachy.

Chris
08-13-2013, 08:14 AM
And you wonder why there's opposition to liberals running the country into the ground.

Boris The Animal
08-13-2013, 08:17 AM
And you wonder why there's opposition to liberals running the country into the ground.I have the same problem here in Buffalo. We haven't had a Republican in City Hall since 1965. And it's little wonder why Buffalo is consistently ranked as the third poorest city in the country.

Cigar
08-13-2013, 08:21 AM
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/crying-towel.gif

Agravan
08-13-2013, 08:21 AM
I have the same problem here in Buffalo. We haven't had a Republican in City Hall since 1965. And it's little wonder why Buffalo is consistently ranked as the third poorest city in the country.
It does not matter whether you have had a Republican mayor on the past 50 years or so, liberals will still blame Republican policies for Buffalo being in the position it's in. Just read our past thread on Detroit. Our local libs here still found a way to place the blame on Republican policies even thought Detroit has been controlled by libs for decades. They have no shame and can do this while believing their own bullshit.
In all my years, I have learned that no matter what the circumstances, it will always be the Republican's fault. Much like obama's sequester idea.

Boris The Animal
08-13-2013, 08:34 AM
It does not matter whether you have had a Republican mayor on the past 50 years or so, liberals will still blame Republican policies for Buffalo being in the position it's in. Just read our past thread on Detroit. Our local libs here still found a way to place the blame on Republican policies even thought Detroit has been controlled by libs for decades. They have no shame and can do this while believing their own bullshit.
In all my years, I have learned that no matter what the circumstances, it will always be the Republican's fault. Much like obama's sequester idea.Oh, I concur. the only Democrat mayor that I actually liked was James D. Griffin. He was a staunch Conservative and didn't care who's enemies lists he made. The fights between him, (school superintendent) Eugene Reville, and (Common Council Presidents) George Arthur & James Pitts were legendary. But he cared more about the people of the City of Buffalo. Hence his four consecutive terms in office. As an added bonus, his Conservatism not only pulled the city out of insolvency caused by Stan Makowski, but Buffalo thrived under his leadership.

Boris The Animal
08-13-2013, 08:35 AM
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/crying-towel.gifDeny it all you want, Cigarette. But the fact still remains. Liberalism killed Detroit.

Cigar
08-13-2013, 08:43 AM
Deny it all you want, Cigarette. But the fact still remains. Liberalism killed Detroit.

I'll remember that the next time I'm there ... but my Ride was built and delivered in Bowling Green Kentucky :grin:

jillian
08-13-2013, 08:43 AM
And you wonder why there's opposition to liberals running the country into the ground.

how about wondering why every time the right runs things they send us into a recession.

Agravan
08-13-2013, 08:46 AM
how about wondering why every time the right runs things they send us into a recession.
So the left running cities like Detroit and Buffalo, and states like Kalifornia into the ground is soooo much preferable, then?

Cigar
08-13-2013, 08:50 AM
how about wondering why every time the right runs things they send us into a recession.

http://gpnetnow.com/golden/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/bam.jpg

That should shut their Ass-Up :laugh:

Agravan
08-13-2013, 08:54 AM
http://gpnetnow.com/golden/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/bam.jpg

That should shut their Ass-Up :laugh:Why?

zelmo1234
08-13-2013, 08:58 AM
how about wondering why every time the right runs things they send us into a recession.

WOW truer words were never spoken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If GWB would have had the balls to stand up to Christopher I did not know I got a 1% mortgage Dodd (D) and Barney the banking Queen Franks (D) as well as the congressional black caucus (D)

And ended the polices of Carter, given Teeth by Clinton and Reno! http://cw.ua.edu/2011/11/17/clint-carter-policies-true-reason-for-housing-bubble/

We may not have been able to head off the recession but we sure the hell would have been in better shape than we are now!

Boris The Animal
08-13-2013, 08:58 AM
Why?Because Leftist scum like him and Jillian think that Liberalism is clean and pure as the wind driven snow.

nic34
08-13-2013, 09:11 AM
So the left running cities like Detroit and Buffalo, and states like Kalifornia into the ground is soooo much preferable, then?

Check out the bottom 10 states>>>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

Another example of the rebublican poorest states ....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/06/07/are-the-10-poorest-u-s-states-really-republican/

zelmo1234
08-13-2013, 09:19 AM
Check out the bottom 10 states>>>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

Another example of the rebublican poorest states ....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/06/07/are-the-10-poorest-u-s-states-really-republican/

And here is the funny part

THE ONLY STATE ON THE LIST THAT IS IN THE TOP TEN IN LIKELY TO GO BROKE IS LA. AND OF COURSE THEY UP UNTIL RECENTLY HAVE BEEN OWNED BY THE DEMOCRATS.

But if you look at the states in trouble they are all democratic strong holds

http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2010/06/14/50-states-in-debt.html#slide10

So the states that don't have a lot of money can manage it because most of them are controlled by republicans, the rich states are gong broke?

Because they are run by liberals. I think that is funny as shit!

Chris
08-13-2013, 09:37 AM
http://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/crying-towel.gif



Pathetic cop out from engaging in discussion of the issue.

Chris
08-13-2013, 09:38 AM
Check out the bottom 10 states>>>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

Another example of the rebublican poorest states ....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/06/07/are-the-10-poorest-u-s-states-really-republican/



Yes, Reps can ruin America just as the Dems can. The logical conclusion ought to be to throw all the bums out.

Cigar
08-13-2013, 09:41 AM
Pathetic cop out from engaging in discussion of the issue.

Just and observation ... :laugh:

nic34
08-13-2013, 09:43 AM
And here is the funny part

THE ONLY STATE ON THE LIST THAT IS IN THE TOP TEN IN LIKELY TO GO BROKE IS LA. AND OF COURSE THEY UP UNTIL RECENTLY HAVE BEEN OWNED BY THE DEMOCRATS.

But if you look at the states in trouble they are all democratic strong holds

http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2010/06/14/50-states-in-debt.html#slide10

So the states that don't have a lot of money can manage it because most of them are controlled by republicans, the rich states are gong broke?

Because they are run by liberals. I think that is funny as shit!

Not all debt is a bad thing. Do you make a mortgage payment?

Chris
08-13-2013, 09:48 AM
how about wondering why every time the right runs things they send us into a recession.

Partisan poppycock.


The 2008 Recession
According to NBER, employment peaked in December 2007. Between November 2007 and June 2008, other sectors of the economy peaked: real personal income less transfer payments, real manufacturing and wholesale-retail trade sales, and industrial production. However, this recession did not have two consecutive quarters of decline in real GDP.
Start: December 2007
End:
Duration:
Congress: Democrats pushed through tax rebates and other stimulus measures, the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, February 2008
Congress: Democrats pushed through a major economic stimulus bill, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, February 2009

The 2001 Recession
The NBER determined that a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001; this expansion lasted exactly 10 years, the longest in the NBER's chronology.
Start: March 2001
End: November 2001
Duration: 8 months
Unemployment peaked at 5.9% in June 2002
Congress: In June 2001, Republicans pushed through the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 at a cost of $1.6 trillion over nine years; this included tax rebates for people who filed a tax return for 2000.

The 1990-91 Recession
This recession was investment-related and exacerbated by a spike in the price of oil and restrictive monetary policy. Contributed to President Bush losing to Bill Clinton in November 1992.
Start: July 1990
End: March 1991
Duration: 8 months
Unemployment peaked at 7.8% in June 1992
Congress: The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991)
Congress: In December 1991, Congress passed the Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act to maintain and extend the nation's transportation system; cost: $151 billion over six years.
Congress: In April 1993, Congress passed the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, providing $4 billion in emergency unemployment compensation to approximately 1.9 million unemployed American workers

The 1981-83 Recession
Energy prices contributed to this recession which combined high unemployment and high interest rates. The prime interest rate reached 21.5% in June 1982. The most serious recession since the Great Depression.
Start: July 1981
End: November 1983
Duration: 16 months
Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in November and December 1982
Congress: Surface Transportation Assistance Act (Jan. 1983) expected to create about 320,000 jobs; bill also added up to six weeks of unemployment benefits.
Congress: Emergency Jobs Appropriations Act (March 1984) provided $9 billion to 77 federal programs to stimulate the economy and create jobs. GAO: "not effective and timely in relieving the high unemployment caused by the recession." (pdf)

The 1980 Recession
Energy prices contributed to this recession, the shortest on record. Combined with record interest rates, it also contributed to President Carter losing to Ronald Reagan in November 1980.
Start: January 1980
End: July 1980
Duration: 6 months
Unemployment peaked at 7.8% in July 1980
Congressional Action: Unknown

The 1973-75 Recession
The first oil-shock, prompted by U.S. support of Israel, triggered this recession and exacerbated the stock market crash. President Nixon resigned; Gerald Ford became president August 1974.
Start: November 1973
End: March 1975
Duration: 16 months
Unemployment peaked at 8.8% in June 1975
Congressional Action: Tax Reduction Act (March 1975) provided 10% rebate on 1974 tax liability ($200 cap) and $30 general tax credit for each taxpayer and dependent.
Congress: Public Works Employment Act (July 1976) provided $4 billion for "temporary, Government-funded jobs"
Congress: Local Public Works Capital Development and Investment Act (May 1977) authorized an additional $4 billion for state and local governments for local public works.

The 1970 Recession
The decade began with historic labor disputes: almost 210,000 postal employees launched the first mass work stoppage in the history of the U.S. Postal Service. Also in 1970, four railroad unions conducted a 1-day nationwide railroad strike. In 1971, longshoremen strikes closed all major ports on the East, Gulf, and West Coasts. Johnson is president; stagflation enters the vocabulary.
Start: December 1969
End: November 1970
Duration: 11 months
Unemployment peaked at 6.1% in August 1971
Congress: Public Works and Economic Development Employment Act Amendments for Depressed Rural Areas (August 1971)
Presidential Action: Nixon imposes wage and price controls (August 1971)

The 1960 Recession
A drop in housing demand led this mild recession. President Eisenhower was in his last year in office. The recession may have cost Republican Richard Nixon the presidency because John Kennedy won a very close race in November 1960.
Start: April 1960
End: February 1961
Duration: 10 months
Unemployment peaked at 7.1% in May 1961
Congress: Area Redevelopment Act (May 1961) provides loans to proprietorships, partnerships, corporations, governmental bodies, public nonprofit corporations, and state or local development companies
Congress: Public Works Acceleration Act (September 1962) - $1.9 billion for federal public works projects targeted to depressed areas

The 1957-58 Recession
Start: August 1957
End: April 1958
Duration: 8 months
Unemployment peaked at 7.7% in July 1958
Congressional Action: Federal Aid Highway Act (April 1958) - Under this Act and related legislation, federal expenditures for public roads was approximately $2.3 billion in fiscal Year 1959.
Congress: River and Harbor Act, Flood Control Act and Water Supply Act (July 1958) - $1.6 billion allocated


@ http://uspolitics.about.com/od/economy/tp/recessions_and_politics.htm

Boris The Animal
08-13-2013, 10:55 AM
Partisan poppycock.



@ http://uspolitics.about.com/od/economy/tp/recessions_and_politics.htm More dirty little secrets Liberals want to try to hide.

jillian
08-13-2013, 10:57 AM
Partisan poppycock.

@ http://uspolitics.about.com/od/economy/tp/recessions_and_politics.htm

reagan, bush, and bush.

post voodoo economics...

thanks for playing.

p.s. you saying anything is 'partisan' is hysterical.

Chris
08-13-2013, 11:38 AM
reagan, bush, and bush.

post voodoo economics...

thanks for playing.

p.s. you saying anything is 'partisan' is hysterical.



Kindly remove the beam from thine own eye, jill, before you trip over your own partisan feet.

Why'd you not go back further?


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zelmo1234
08-13-2013, 06:32 PM
Not all debt is a bad thing. Do you make a mortgage payment?

Not any more! but yes I once believed it debt, I have changed my mind!

And the city's and states that are listed have no way to pay their future bills! They are going broke, the poor states are not!

Peter1469
08-13-2013, 06:48 PM
Not any more! but yes I once believed it debt, I have changed my mind!

And the city's and states that are listed have no way to pay their future bills! They are going broke, the poor states are not!

A mortgage payment is certainly debt. The question is whether you are gaining or losing equity.